Template talk:Themes
Musical themes that don't qualify for articles yet
Per this proposal, musical themes must appear in at least 8 pieces of Super Mario-related media, not counting appearances of the theme in retro services, to have an article created about them.
Appearances that do not count towards the article creation threshold should still be noted that within the recurring theme's article, such as appearances in retro services and non-Super Mario-related media.
Here are examples of what would and would not count towards the “8 pieces of media” threshold:
- Counts towards the threshold:
- Any form of a theme in the original game.
- Any form of a theme in a remake of the original game.
- Any form of a theme in another game.
- Any form of a theme in a remake of another game.
- Any form of a theme in any other type of Super Mario-related piece of media.
- Doesn't count towards the threshold:
- Any form of a theme in a retro service.
- Any form of a theme in a piece of non-Super Mario-related media.
Super Mario Bros. series
Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic / Super Mario Bros. 2
- "Player Select"
- 1. Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic
- 2. Super Mario Bros. 2
- 3. The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!
- 4. Super Mario All-Stars/Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World/Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition
- 5. Super Mario Advance
- 6. Super Mario 3D World/Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury
- 7. Super Mario Maker 2
(Might be in BS Super Mario USA. Also, under the proposal, this should be in the template. --SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 09:30, May 10, 2024 (EDT))
- "Underground Theme"
(Might be in BS Super Mario USA. This fits the template, but only just BARELY.--SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 09:30, May 10, 2024 (EDT))
- "Boss Theme"
- 1. Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic
- 2. Super Mario Bros. 2
- 3. The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!
- 4. Super Mario All-Stars
- 5. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Could only find in Ultimate via List of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate in-game music by series (A–M).)
- 6. Super Mario Advance
- 7. Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem!
- 8. Super Mario Maker 2
(Might be in BS Super Mario USA. Also, this should be in the template. --SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 09:30, May 10, 2024 (EDT))
Super Mario Bros. 3
- "Fortress"
- "Map 2 World
- "Dark Land"
- "Demon King Koopa"
Super Mario Land
- "Underground Theme / Easton Kingdom"
- 1. Super Mario Land / Game Boy Graffiti
- 2. Super Mario Land (album)
- 3. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
- 4. Super Mario Run
Super Mario World
- "Fortress Boss (Super Mario World)"
- "The Evil King Koopa, Bowser" (NB: On its own, not counting the "Castle" theme from Super Mario World)
- "P Switch (Super Mario World theme)"
- "Star World"
- 1. Super Mario World / Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World
- 2. Mario is Missing! (MS-DOS)
- 3. Mario is Missing! (SNES)
- 4. Mario's Time Machine (MS-DOS)
- 5. Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2
- 6. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
- 7. Mini Mario & Friends: amiibo Challenge
Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins
- "Star Maze"
Super Mario 64
- "Dire, Dire Docks"
- "Merry-Go-Round"
New Super Mario Bros.
- "Castle Theme"
- "P Switch (New Super Mario Bros. theme)"
- 1. New Super Mario Bros.
- 2. New Super Mario Bros. Wii / New Super Mario Bros. 2 / New Super Mario Bros. U / New Super Luigi U / New Super Mario Bros. U + New Super Luigi U / Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Super Mario Maker / Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate / New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe / Super Mario Maker 2
Super Mario Galaxy
- "Luma"
- "Waltz of the Boos"
- "Enter Bowser Jr.!"
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
- "Title Theme"
- "Tower"
Super Mario Maker
- "Title Theme"
- "Airship" (SMB style)
Mario Kart series
Super Mario Kart
- "Donut Plains"
- "Choco Island"
- "Koopa Beach"
- "Vanilla Lake"
- "Battle Course"
Mario Kart 64
- "Moo Moo Farm / Yoshi Valley"
- "Koopa Troopa Beach" (arrangement of Choco Island?)
- 1. Mario Kart 64
- 2. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour
- "Kalimari Desert"
- "Toad's Turnpike"
- "Frappe Snowland / Sherbet Land"
- 1. Mario Kart 64 / Mario Kart Tour
- 2. Mario Kart DS
- 3. Mario Kart Wii
- "Choco Mountain / Block Fort / Double Deck"
- "Bowser's Castle"
- "DK's Jungle Parkway"
- 1. Mario Kart 64
- 2. Mario Kart Wii
- "Banshee Boardwalk"
- 1. Mario Kart 64
- 2. Mario Kart DS
- "Big Donut / Skyscraper"
- 1. Mario Kart 64
- 2. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart 7
Mario Kart: Super Circuit
- "Peach Circuit / Mario Circuit / Luigi Circuit" (NB: Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe uses an earlier version of this theme)
- "Shy Guy Beach / Cheep-Cheep Island"
- "Riverside Park"
- "Bowser Castle" (NB: On its own, not counting Koopa's Theme from Super Mario 64)
- "Boo Lake / Broken Pier" (NB: On its own, not counting Obake Yashiki BGM from Super Mario World)
- "Cheese Land"
- "Sky Garden"
- "Sunset Wilds"
- "Snow Land"
- "Ribbon Road"
- "Yoshi Desert"
- "Lakeside Park"
- "Rainbow Road"
- 1. Mario Kart: Super Circuit (NB: On its own, not counting Rainbow Road from Super Mario Kart or Rainbow Road from Mario Kart 64)
- 2. Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
- "Battle Course"
- "Peach Circuit / Mario Circuit / Luigi Circuit" (Early)
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
- "Peach Beach / Daisy Cruiser"
- "Baby Park / Tilt-a-Kart" (NB: On its own, not counting Ground Theme from Super Mario Bros.)
- "Dry Dry Desert"
- "Mushroom Bridge / Mushroom City"
- "Waluigi Stadium / Wario Colosseum"
- "Sherbet Land"
- "DK Mountain"
- "Bowser's Castle / Luigi's Mansion"
- "Rainbow Road" (NB: On its own, not counting Rainbow Road from Super Mario Kart or Rainbow Road from Mario Kart 64)
Mario Kart Arcade GP
- "Main Menu"
- "Mario Cup" (Mario Highway / Mario Beach)
- "DK Cup" (DK Jungle / Bananan Ruins)
- "Pac-Man Cup" (Pac Mountain / Pac Labyrinth)
- "Bowser Cup" (Bowser's Castle / Castle Wall)
- "Rainbow Cup" (Rainbow Coaster / Rainbow Downhill)
- "Challenge Mode"
Mario Kart DS
- "Figure-8 Circuit / Mario Circuit"
- "Yoshi Falls"
- "Cheep Cheep Beach"
- "Luigi's Mansion"
- "Desert Hills"
- "Delfino Square"
- "Shroom Ridge"
- "DK Pass"
- 1. Mario Kart DS
- 2. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour
- "Tick-Tock Clock"
- "Airship Fortress"
- 1. Mario Kart DS
- 2. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour
- "Wario Stadium"
- "Peach Gardens"
- "Rainbow Road" (NB: On its own, not counting Rainbow Road from Super Mario Kart or Rainbow Road from Mario Kart 64)
- "Nintendo DS / Twilight House / Palm Shore / Tart Top"
- 1. Mario Kart DS
- 2. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart 7
Mario Kart Wii
- "Moo Moo Meadows"
- "Mushroom Gorge"
- "DK Summit"
- "Wario's Gold Mine"
- "Daisy Circuit"
- "Koopa Cape" (all versions)
- "Maple Treeway"
- "Grumble Volcano"
- "Dry Dry Ruins"
- 1. Mario Kart Wii / Mario Kart Tour (presumably)
- "Moonview Highway"
- "Rainbow Road" (NB: On its own, not counting Rainbow Road from Super Mario Kart)
Mario Kart 7
- "Toad Circuit / Mario Circuit"
- "Daisy Hills"
- "Cheep Cheep Lagoon" (NB: On its own, not counting Peach Beach / Daisy Cruiser from Mario Kart: Double Dash!!)
- "Shy Guy Bazaar"
- "Music Park"
- "Rock Rock Mountain"
- "Piranha Plant Slide" (NB: On its own, not counting Ground Theme or Underground Theme from Super Mario Bros.)
- "Wario Shipyard" (NB: On its own, not counting Main Theme from Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 or Main Theme from WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!)
- "Neo Bowser City" (NB: On its own, not counting Toad's Turnpike from Mario Kart 64 or Luigi Circuit / Mario Circuit from Mario Kart Wii)
- "DK Jungle" (NB: On its own, not counting DK Island Swing from Donkey Kong Country)
- "Rosalina's Ice World"
- "Bowser's Castle" (NB: On its own, not counting Bowser's Castle from Mario Kart: Double Dash!!)
- 1. Mario Kart 7 / Mario Kart Tour (presumably)
- "Rainbow Road" (NB: On its own, not counting Rainbow Road from Super Mario Kart or Rainbow Road from Mario Kart 64)
Mario Kart 8
- "Mario Kart Stadium"
- "Water Park"
- "Sweet Sweet Canyon"
- "Thwomp Ruins"
- "Mario Circuit"
- "Toad Harbor"
- "Twisted Mansion"
- "Shy Guy Falls"
- "Sunshine Airport"
- "Dolphin Shoals"
- "Electrodrome"
- "Mount Wario"
- "Cloudtop Cruise"
- "Bone-Dry Dunes"
- "Bowser's Castle"
- "Rainbow Road"
- "Dragon Driftway"
- "Ice Ice Outpost"
- "Wild Woods"
- "Super Bell Subway"
Mario Kart Tour + Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
- "New York Minute"
- "Tokyo Blur"
- "Paris Promenade"
- "London Loop"
- "Vancouver Velocity"
- "Los Angeles Laps"
- "Merry Mountain"
- "Berlin Byways"
- "Ninja Hideaway"
- "Sydney Sprint"
- "Singapore Speedway"
- "Amsterdam Drift"
- "Bangkok Rush"
- "Sky-High Sundae"
- "Piranha Plant Cove"
- "Yoshi's Island"
- "Athens Dash"
- "Rome Avanti"
- "Squeaky Clean Sprint"
- "Madrid Drive"
Role-playing games
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
- "Hello, Happy Kingdom"
- 1. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars / Super Mario RPG Original Sound Version / Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch)
- 2. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3
- 3. Itadaki Street DS
- 4. Fortune Street
- 5. The Super Mario Bros. Movie
- 6. Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch)
Mario Discovery series
Mario is Missing! (MS-DOS)
- "Mexico City, Athens / Buenos Aires, Rio de Janeiro" (NB: On its own, not counting the "Super Star" theme from Super Mario Bros. or the Star World theme from Super Mario World)
- 1. Mario is Missing! (MS-DOS)
- 2. Mario is Missing! (SNES)
- 3. Mario's Time Machine (MS-DOS)
Mario is Missing! (NES)
- "Title Theme"
- 1. Mario is Missing! (NES) / Mario's Time Machine (NES)
- "World Map"
- 1. Mario is Missing! (NES) / Mario's Time Machine (NES)
- "Boss Battle"
- 1. Mario is Missing! (NES) / Mario's Time Machine (NES)
- "Rome, Italy / Montreal, Canada"
- 1. Mario is Missing! (NES) / Mario's Time Machine (NES)
Donkey Kong series
Donkey Kong
- "Game Kaishi"
- 1. Donkey Kong
- 2. Donkey Kong (Game Boy)
- 3. Mario Tennis
- 4. Mario vs. Donkey Kong
- 5. Mario Power Tennis
- 6. Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix
- 7. Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis
- 8. Super Smash Bros. Brawl / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
- 9. Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem!
- 10. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
- 11. The Super Mario Bros. Movie
- 12. Mario vs. Donkey Kong (Nintendo Switch)
Donkey Kong Jr.
- "Stage 1"
- "Ending"
Donkey Kong Country
- "Simian Segue"
- "Bonus Room Blitz"
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
- "Stickerbush Symphony"
Wrecking Crew series
Wrecking Crew
- "Golden Hammer Theme"
- 1.
Appear in: Wrecking Crew / Wrecking Crew '98 / Super Smash Bros. Brawl / Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Yoshi's Island series
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
- "Story Music Box"
- "Yoshi's Island" (title theme)
Wario Land series
Wario Land: Shake It!
- "Stonecarving City"
WarioWare series
WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!
- Unnamed theme used in cutscenes and in Dr. Crygor (theme)
- 1. WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!
- a. Unnamed theme used in List of WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$! microgames#Reality microgames
- 2. WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$!
- 3. Super Smash Bros. Brawl / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (WarioWare, Inc. Medley)
- 4. WarioWare: D.I.Y. (as Dr. Crygor's theme)
- 5. WarioWare: D.I.Y. Showcase (as Dr. Crygor's theme)
- 1. WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!
(Potentially more. Should the usages/remixes/... be counted here? Both Lost a Life & Game Over (theme) are counted with Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros.), so maybe. --SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 10:28, May 10, 2024 (EDT))
- My understanding is that a different version of the same theme only counts towards the threshold if it's in a different game; multiple versions in the same game only count as one (while still being notable enough for an article). The version of this theme used in the Reality stage is itself reused as Dr. Crygor (theme), but most of the instances of that theme specifically use a melody line that's not featured in the version of the theme found elsewhere in Mega Microgame$!. jan Misali (talk · contributions) 10:37, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- I brought up Lost a Life & Game Over (theme) because they are different versions of Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros.), but they are counted separately. That's what I'm talking about. Different versions in the same game, not re-uses. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 11:48, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- I know. I'm saying that my understanding is that those don't count towards the threshold. They count as examples of the theme, but they do not count as additional uses for the sake of reaching the threshold for notability. jan Misali (talk · contributions) 12:05, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- Well, the top of the page itself says this for what counts: "Any form of a theme in the original game." SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 12:25, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- It says "appear in at least 8 pieces of Super Mario-related media", not "appear at least 8 times in Super Mario-related media". jan Misali (talk · contributions) 12:30, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- The full section itself:
- Counts towards the threshold:
- Any form of a theme in the original game.
- Any form of a theme in a remake of the original game.
- Any form of a theme in another game.
- Any form of a theme in a remake of another game.
- Any form of a theme in any other type of Super Mario-related piece of media.
- Doesn't count towards the threshold:
- Any form of a theme in a retro service.
- Any form of a theme in a piece of non-Super Mario-related media.
- Hope that clears things up. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 12:33, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- That's not the whole section. The thing I quoted is immediately before that, the part where it says "8 pieces of media". Yes, all of these count as appearances, but if more than one of these is in the same piece of media that doesn't count as an additional piece of media. Sorry for being unclear. jan Misali (talk · contributions) 12:37, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- Then why does it say Any form of a theme then? Is that false? Cause if it is, it would need to be removed. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 12:40, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- It says "any form of a theme" counts towards the threshold of appearing in "8 pieces of media". As in, any form of a theme appearing in a piece of media counts for that piece of media. jan Misali (talk · contributions) 12:43, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- Then why does it say Any form of a theme then? Is that false? Cause if it is, it would need to be removed. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 12:40, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- That's not the whole section. The thing I quoted is immediately before that, the part where it says "8 pieces of media". Yes, all of these count as appearances, but if more than one of these is in the same piece of media that doesn't count as an additional piece of media. Sorry for being unclear. jan Misali (talk · contributions) 12:37, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- It says "appear in at least 8 pieces of Super Mario-related media", not "appear at least 8 times in Super Mario-related media". jan Misali (talk · contributions) 12:30, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- Well, the top of the page itself says this for what counts: "Any form of a theme in the original game." SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 12:25, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- I know. I'm saying that my understanding is that those don't count towards the threshold. They count as examples of the theme, but they do not count as additional uses for the sake of reaching the threshold for notability. jan Misali (talk · contributions) 12:05, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- I brought up Lost a Life & Game Over (theme) because they are different versions of Ground Theme (Super Mario Bros.), but they are counted separately. That's what I'm talking about. Different versions in the same game, not re-uses. SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (talk) 11:48, May 10, 2024 (EDT)
- "Pyoro"
- 1. WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!
- 2. WarioWare: Twisted!
- 3. WarioWare: Smooth Moves
- 4. WarioWare Gold
- 5. WarioWare: Get It Together! (in the credits)
- 6. WarioWare: Move It!
Mario vs. Donkey Kong series
Mario vs. Donkey Kong
- "Mini Mario Stage"
- "Donkey Kong Jungle 3"
- "Spooky House 1"
- "Bonus Game"
Wii Sports Resort
- 1. Wii Sports Resort
- 2. Mario Kart 7
- 3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe / Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit
- 4. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Legend of Zelda
- "Overworld Theme"
- 1. Super Smash Bros. (series) (which ones?)
- 2. Donkey Konga (series) (which ones?)
- 3. Tetris DS
- 4. Super Mario 3D World / Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury
- 5. Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
- 6. Tetris 99
F-Zero
Splatoon
Excitebike
Flipnote Studio
- "The Mario Drawing Song"
- 1. Flipnote Studio
- 2. Super Mario 3D Land
Other
- "Game Start (Donkey Kong Jr.)" / "Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565"
- 1. Donkey Kong Jr. / Donkey Kong/Donkey Kong Jr./Mario Bros.
- 2. Donkey Kong Jr. (Game & Watch, Table Top) / Donkey Kong Jr. (Game & Watch, Panorama Screen)
- 3. Donkey Kong Jr. (Atari 2600)
- 4. Donkey Kong Jr. (Intellivision)
- 5. Donkey Kong Jr. (Coleco Adam)
- 6. Donkey Kong Jr. (FDS) / Donkey Kong Jr. (NES) / Donkey Kong Jr. + Jr. Sansū Lesson / Donkey Kong Jr. Math / Donkey Kong Classics / Famicom Music / Nintendo FAMICOM MUSIC / Donkey Kong Jr.-e
- 7. Donkey Kong Jr. (BBC Micro) (unreleased)
- "Le Galop infernal d'Orphée aux Enfers"
- 1. Donkey Kong Jr. / Donkey Kong/Donkey Kong Jr./Mario Bros. (presumably)
- 2. Donkey Kong Jr. (Game & Watch, Table Top) / Donkey Kong Jr. (Game & Watch, Panorama Screen)
- 3. Donkey Kong Jr. (Coleco Adam)
- 4. Super Mario Land / Game Boy Graffiti / WarioWare: Get It Together! (different from the original?)
- 5. Super Mario Land (album)
- 6. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars / Super Mario RPG Original Sound Version / Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch)
- 7. Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch)
- "Pop Goes the Weasel"
- "Go Go Mario!!"
- 1. Mario no Daibōken / Go Go Mario!! (single)
- 2. Mario & Zelda Big Band Live