List of Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga pre-release and unused content: Difference between revisions

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It has been requested that this article be rewritten and expanded to include more information. Reason: Document the E3 demo when enough info is compiled. Also the recently leaked demo content like the Beta Bowletta sprites.

The original logo for the game's international release, shown at E3 2003.^[1] Note its similarities to the game's Japanese logo with the decorative bean design.

This is a list of pre-release and unused content for the game Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga.

Unused data[edit]

Unused cameos[edit]

The sprites of the unused characters

Wario, Fox McCloud, Captain Olimar, Samus Aran, Toon Link, and an Excitebike Racer were intended to appear in the Starbeans Cafe after Mario and Luigi create a drink.^[2] The Excitebike Racer is the only character to not be portrayed in the game's art style, instead remaining as an 8-bit sprite. Despite originally being intended to only appear once, Professor E. Gadd replaces all of these cameo appearances in the final game.

The items that Mario and Luigi receive after making each drink were also supposed to relate more closely to each character, being replaced by more generic items in the final game:

Game Boy Horror instead of Game Boy Horror SP
Wario’s Gold instead of Greed Wallet
Gold Ring instead of Bonus Ring
UV Lamp instead of Cobalt Necktie
Energy Tank instead of Power Grip
Triforce instead of Great Force

An Excitebike Racer
Fox McCloud
Fox McCloud walking
An icon of Peppy Hare
Link
Link holding his sword and shield.
Captain Olimar
Samus Aran
Samus Aran
An icon of Slippy Toad
Wario
Wario walking
Wario with purple stuffed cheeks
A group of Pikmin

Quotes[edit]

Below is a list of the dialogue for each character's intended appearance.

E. Gadd[edit]

E. Gadd : Hmm... My sniffer’s detecting the aroma of a new kind of juice...
Cashier : Oh! Professor Gadd! How’ve you been, sir? Are you here to try our new drink? You can ask those two there for Woohoo Blend!
E. Gadd : Oh! Just wonderful! A new blend! How about a try, youngsters? Hmm… This flavor fills the old bones with brimming strength! Yep, a drink like this’ll surely boost my spirits during ghost research. Listen, youngsters, let me thank you. I insist you take this. Hmm... I wonder what I should invent next...

Wario[edit]

Wario: Ah ha ha ha! Move it! Wow! Now that I’m here, this game’s finally gettin’ good!
Cashier: Oh! Wario! What’s a bad dude like you doing here? Oh! I got it! You came to pay your tab from the other day!
Wario: What are you talkin' about?!? You tryin’ to give me a bad rep with stupid rumors? I oughta...
Cashier: Aww, come on! Just pay up! I'll even take beans if you got 'em. Come on! You're a rich guy, right?
Wario: Uh... OK. Maybe next time. But... Don't you have free drinks for celebrity guest stars in this game? Wa ha ha ha ha ha ha! BLECH! AWFUL! Do you guys really like drinking nasty stuff like this? ...Losers. Ah! Whatever! Hope this covers your costs! Blech! Drinkin' that stuff made me wanna go shave my tongue! Uh-oh! Gotta go!

Fox McCloud[edit]

Fox: Fox here!
Cashier: Hey! Aren't you Fox McCloud, the Star Fox leader? Are you here to taste our new juice? No way!
Fox: Uh...yeah. So why don't you serve me up a cup at your special guest star rate? What’s that? A call?
Slippy Toad: Fox! Help me! Fox! Where are you?
Cashier: Wow! You sure are one busy guy... Er, I mean, one busy fox!
Fox: Thanks for the discount! Will this cover the rest? Mission complete!

Captain Olimar (Pikmin)[edit]

Captain Olimar's text would appear on the screen the same way the item text does (such as “You got a Mushroom!”), meaning he would not have a speech bubble.

Olimar: ...I detect a strange, yet pleasing aroma drifting through the atmosphere of this cafe. It would seem to require further investigation...
Cashier: Wow! This is a rare treat! If it isn't Captain Olimar!
Olimar: What is this? Before my eyes stands a strange life form. It resembles me slightly, so I shall dub it...Marlio! ...Further investigation indicates that the drink that this Marlio holds is the source of the aroma. I shall now partake of its flavor. Why! Its flavor is most satisfying! Finding that such a drink could be partook of in such a place is a tremendous discovery, indeed! This Marlio creature exhibits what seems to be a longing expression... Perhaps it will react if I present it with something... I have just noticed a strange, unsightly green creature standing next to the Marlio... It could be a dangerous life form. I feel I should attack it before it attacks me.

Samus Aran[edit]

Cashier: Whoa! A power outage? Yikes! Samus Aran! I see you're rocking and rolling as usual! ...Looks like your energy tanks are empty! Sorry, but can't you give your Hoolumbian to Samus? Oh! Feeling better?

Excitebike Racer[edit]

Cashier: Hey? Is that the sound of a motorcycle I hear? Hey, buddy! What are you doin'?! This isn’t a drive-through! What? Are you thirsty or something? Fine, but no need to get so...EXCITED! Are your engines on full throttle?

Link[edit]

Cashier : Whoa! Link! The Hero of...what is it, now? Anyway, long-time, no see, buddy! What are you doing here? Did you get lost in a dungeon again? What? You're having trouble finding the fairy fountain? Oh... It’s game over, and your bottles are all empty? Are your hearts filled now, kiddo?

Other[edit]

Sprites[edit]

The game's data includes sprites of a cloaked Beanish character, an early sprite of Lady Lima,^[3] and an unused color palette for Tuki. In Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions, Tuki uses this alternate color palette instead.

Sprites of five colored letters and a star symbol exist that spell out "MARIO✩", alongside a series of colorful polka-dotted triangles. No equivalent exists for Luigi. Early coin sprites show a different design, as well as unused red and blue variants. The starting area of Woohoo Hooniversity looked drastically diferent. Unused sprites for the 'Happy' statues in Woohoo Hooniversity reveal that they were supposed to catch on fire. Mario and Luigi's icons at the top of the screen were slightly smaller and less detailed.

Items[edit]

Originally, the Bean Fruits were each intended to be a different color, rather than being all colored purple as in the final game. Descriptions exist for items called "Neon Beans" that match the unused Bean Fruit colors. The text "You got a Game & Watch" is also present, which is a remnant of when it was rewarded by the cloaked Beanish.^[4] An item named "Spiritual Bros." may have been a badge. A badge named Soulful Bros. exists in the final game, so Nintendo may have attempted to rename this item.^[2]^[3] There are also unused sprites for badges in blue and yellow-orange colors, red and green blocks without "M"s or "L"s, a closed book similar to open ones in Beanbean Castle, and an unremarkable key. The latter was intended to be displayed for key items in a similar manner to badges having badge icons beside their names. The Oho Gear is unobtainable through legitimate means in international versions of the game. The gear, which raises Defense by 28, was changed in the Japanese release so that it is dropped by Boomerang Bros. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions fixes this issue in all regions.

Enemies[edit]

The name "Sharkbone" is found in the game's code but unused in the final game, as in battle, Sharkbones' names will always display as "????", alongside Sand Cheeps.^[2] Both enemies are found together in Gwarhar Lagoon. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions officially uses the names "Sharkbone" and "Sand Cheep" for the enemies in their Easy Mode hints.

Blue Goombas called Mossy Goombas, red Goombas called Pop Goombas, Paragoombas, Sergeant Starshade, and a Hoohooligan named Nice Guy all have battle statistics and sprites. The green Oho Jee from the Surfing Game also has shocked and hurt animations, although it is unclear if it was intended to be battled. There are also overworld sprites of smaller Fighter Flies bearing more resemblance to those in the version of Mario Bros. included with the game. Finally, there are battle sprites of a golden Bullet Bill in a taller Bill Blaster with the skull icon from Super Mario Bros.

Some enemies that only one brother can fight still have a battle script for both Mario and Luigi, such as Oucher Glasses.

Unused enemy statistics[edit]

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga enemy
Goomba
	HP	100	POW		Defense	3
	Speed	100	Experience	2	Coins	2
	Location	Unknown	Jump		Hammer
	Hand		Fire		Thunder
	Stat down?		Stun?		Burn?
	Level	100	Role		Item drop	None - 0% None - 0%
Notice Stats in parentheses are from the Japanese version (if they differ from the original American and European stats). Stats in gray are only found in the game's coding and are not available during "normal" gameplay.

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga enemy
Getme!
	HP	5000	POW		Defense	3
	Speed	100	Experience	999	Coins	2
	Location	”Unknown”	Jump		Hammer
	Hand		Fire		Thunder
	Stat down?		Stun?		Burn?
	Level	100	Role		Item drop	None - 0% None - 0%
Notice Stats in parentheses are from the Japanese version (if they differ from the original American and European stats). Stats in gray are only found in the game's coding and are not available during "normal" gameplay.

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga enemy
Dummonster
	HP	100	POW		Defense	3
	Speed	100	Experience	2	Coins	2
	Location	Unknown	Jump		Hammer
	Hand		Fire		Thunder
	Stat down?		Stun?		Burn?
	Level	100	Role		Item drop	None - 0% None - 0%
Notice Stats in parentheses are from the Japanese version (if they differ from the original American and European stats). Stats in gray are only found in the game's coding and are not available during "normal" gameplay.

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga enemy
Mossy Goomba
	HP	3	POW		Defense	3
	Speed	0	Experience	2	Coins	2
	Location	Unknown	Jump		Hammer
	Hand		Fire		Thunder
	Stat down?		Stun?		Burn?
	Level	1	Role		Item drop	None - 0% None - 0%
Notice Stats in parentheses are from the Japanese version (if they differ from the original American and European stats). Stats in gray are only found in the game's coding and are not available during "normal" gameplay.

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga enemy
Pop Goomba
	HP	3	POW		Defense	3
	Speed	0	Experience	2	Coins	2
	Location	Unknown	Jump		Hammer
	Hand		Fire		Thunder
	Stat down?		Stun?		Burn?
	Level	1	Role		Item drop	None - 0% None - 0%
Notice Stats in parentheses are from the Japanese version (if they differ from the original American and European stats). Stats in gray are only found in the game's coding and are not available during "normal" gameplay.

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga enemy
Paragoomba
	HP	3	POW		Defense	3
	Speed	0	Experience	2	Coins	2
	Location	Unknown	Jump		Hammer
	Hand		Fire		Thunder
	Stat down?		Stun?		Burn?
	Level	1	Role		Item drop	None - 0% None - 0%
Notice Stats in parentheses are from the Japanese version (if they differ from the original American and European stats). Stats in gray are only found in the game's coding and are not available during "normal" gameplay.

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga enemy
Sgt. Starshade
	HP	100	POW		Defense	3
	Speed	0	Experience	2	Coins	2
	Location	Unknown	Jump		Hammer
	Hand		Fire		Thunder
	Stat down?		Stun?		Burn?
	Level	100	Role		Item drop	None - 0% None - 0%
Notice Stats in parentheses are from the Japanese version (if they differ from the original American and European stats). Stats in gray are only found in the game's coding and are not available during "normal" gameplay.

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga enemy
Nice Guy
	HP	100	POW		Defense	3
	Speed	0	Experience	2	Coins	2
	Location	Unknown	Jump		Hammer
	Hand		Fire		Thunder
	Stat down?		Stun?		Burn?
	Level	5	Role		Item drop	None - 0% None - 0%
Notice Stats in parentheses are from the Japanese version (if they differ from the original American and European stats). Stats in gray are only found in the game's coding and are not available during "normal" gameplay.

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga enemy
Time Bob-omb
	HP	5000	POW	398	Defense	999
	Speed	1	Experience	0	Coins	0
	Location	Bowser's Castle	Jump		Hammer
	Hand		Fire		Thunder
	Stat down?		Stun?		Burn?
	Level	99	Role		Item drop	None - 0% None - 0%
Notice Stats in parentheses are from the Japanese version (if they differ from the original American and European stats). Stats in gray are only found in the game's coding and are not available during "normal" gameplay.

Music[edit]

Eight unused music tracks exist in the game data:

A song similar to that of Little Fungitown.
A simpler version of "Let's Go!", the main battle theme, using significantly different instrumentation.
Two rearrangements of the title theme from Tomato Adventure, another RPG developed by AlphaDream in 2002 that uses a similar battle system to the one in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga.
An ominous theme that sounds similar to the Woohoo Hooniversity theme.
Themes for Teehee Valley and Beanbean Castle Town without their lead instruments, possibly being early versions of these themes.
A version of the File Select theme with different instrumentation, possibly being an early version of the theme. This version uses the Game Boy's legacy channels in addition to samples for the lead. The harmonization, which uses the pulse channels in the final game, is interpreted as samples of choir voices, which would be how it is interpreted in the 3DS version.

Battle backgrounds[edit]

Several unused battle backgrounds exist in the game's data, such as backgrounds for the starry room and electric-themed room from Woohoo Hooniversity. All battle backgrounds in the game are 512 by 256 pixels. During most battles, however, the player only sees a 240 by 160 pixel portion of each one, as very few battles (such as Trunkle and Cackletta's soul) make use of any kind of scrolling. This suggests that all battlefields were originally intended to feature scrolling, as would apply to later games in the Mario & Luigi series. In Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions, the background scrolls whenever Mario or Luigi use a Bros. Attack.

E3 demo[edit]

On October 24, 2023, a cartridge containing the demo made for E3 2003 was found and dumped online.^[5] This demo represents a mid-translation phase of development and features a multitude of differences from the final game, including alternate text, graphics and cutscenes. It contains three preset save files for E3 players, and has a large amount of content blocked off from normal play. Some of the E3 text, such as an "Ufu Mountain Trail" sign, still exists unused in the final game.

Gallery[edit]

Three different icons for badges
Early sprite of Lady Lima
Unused palette for Tuki
Sprite of a "Mossy Goomba"
A cloaked Beanish character
Yellow, red, and blue coins
Early sprites of Yoshi's Eggs, with duller colors
Sprite of a statue on fire
A type of Fighter Fly. This enemy has rudimentary battle code in the E3 demo, where it is listed as「ドン・フライ」(Don Furai, Don Fly) among the Woohoo Hooniversity enemies.^[6]
Early sprites of Bean Fruit
The early sprite of Paragoomba
Sprite of a "Pop Goomba"
Early sprite of Sergeant Starshade
An extended background for Beanbean Outskirts
An early battle background for Woohoo Hooniversity
Wiggler
Early version of the Border Jump minigame.
Bink, as seen in the E3 demo data
Sprite of Jinx found in the E3 demo data
Early version of Bowletta, as seen in the E3 demo data
Early version of Bowletta walking
Early version of Bowletta laughing
Early version of Bowletta angry
Early version of Bowletta shocked
Early version of Bowletta shocked while pointing
Early version of Bowletta in the Koopa Clown Car
Early version of Bowletta angry in the Koopa Clown Car
Early version of Bowletta shocked in the Koopa Clown Car

External links[edit]

References[edit]

^ Japancommercials4U2 (September 1, 2009). Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga E3 2003 Trailer. YouTube. Retrieved June 23, 2015.
^ ^a ^b ^c themushroomkingdom.net Accessed 8 March 2009
^ ^a ^b Salafrog (October 8, 2009). Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga: More Beta Sprites. YouTube. Retrieved November 13, 2009.
^ Skawo (October 25, 2023). [TCRF] Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga Demo Indepth Look - Part 2. YouTube. Retrieved October 26, 2023.
^ Marionova, RETIRE, sage_of_mirrors, Ashe (October 24, 2023). Mario & Luigi - ROM Document. Internet Archive. Retrieved October 24, 2023.
^ Skawo (October 29, 2023). [TCRF] Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga Demo - Unused Enemies, Behaviours and Items. YouTube. Retrieved October 29, 2023.

[1] Japancommercials4U2 (September 1, 2009). Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga E3 2003 Trailer. YouTube. Retrieved June 23, 2015.

[TMK_MLSS-2] themushroomkingdom.net Accessed 8 March 2009

[Salafrog-3] Salafrog (October 8, 2009). Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga: More Beta Sprites. YouTube. Retrieved November 13, 2009.

[4] Skawo (October 25, 2023). [TCRF] Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga Demo Indepth Look - Part 2. YouTube. Retrieved October 26, 2023.

[5] Marionova, RETIRE, sage_of_mirrors, Ashe (October 24, 2023). Mario & Luigi - ROM Document. Internet Archive. Retrieved October 24, 2023.

[6] Skawo (October 29, 2023). [TCRF] Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga Demo - Unused Enemies, Behaviours and Items. YouTube. Retrieved October 29, 2023.

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