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If you're here to ask anything about the changes to the Mario & Sonic coverage, could you check this first please? It might already answer the question and save us both some time- and I've probably explained it better there too- but anything I haven't covered there is fine to ask about. Thanks!

Welcome, BBQ Turtle!

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Editing too much.[edit]

You have been editing too much on a single page in the span of a few minutes. Please make all of your changes in one big edit, instead of several as it clogs up the Recent changes page. You can use the "Show Preview" button to check your edits before you publish them. It's very important to remember, so that way you don't make another edit to fix a mistake. Thanks! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 15:45, 1 March 2017 (EST)


I'm very sorry, I had a complete blank and forgot about the preview button. I really was not trying to cause any problems, I think I pressed the wrong key when adding a link, and therefore there was an error with the image. I was just trying to fix it.


The headers on the Mecha Cheep page have been removed before recently, because the page is short and doesn't need headers. --A sprite of a Flame Chomp from New Super Mario Bros. Wii.TheFlameChomp (talk) 15:14, 3 March 2017 (EST)

Last warning[edit]

This last warning has been overturned by the MarioWiki staff. The original warning can still be viewed.
This is your last warning. The next time you break the rules in any way, you will be blocked from editing the Super Mario Wiki.
If you feel this last warning was undeserved, you may appeal it.

Removing your talk page comments is not acceptable at all on this wiki. If you do it again, you could get blocked for a few weeks. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 16:30, 3 March 2017 (EST)

This is fairly undeserved. As far as I'm aware, BBQ Turtle did not do it again after receiving an informal reminder on the subject, and even if he did remove them again, doing so does not warrant a last warning. I recommend that you appeal this. Yoshi876 (talk)
But still. Removing content on talk pages is not allowed under any circumstance. And considering that he removed all of it, except for the welcome message, it felt warranted to deserve a last warning. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 16:50, 3 March 2017 (EST)
Whilst that is correct, many people wrongly assume they are allowed to remove messages, and stop after being told not to do so, which is the case here. Also, once a user receives an informal reminder, no further action is taken unless they continue to commit the offence. And even if action were to be taken, removing messages is not a level 3 offence, it is a level 2 offence. Yoshi876 (talk)

I'm Sorry[edit]

I'm very sorry, I did not realise we are not allowed to delete messages on our discussion pages. I don't mean to be rude or ignorant, but I'm new here and am still learning the ropes. I do pay attention to anything that is posted on my page, and ensure that I do not make the same mistakes in the future. I am trying my best to read all of the guidelines and rule pages, and I don't mean to do anything wrong. I know now and, will ensure that it is not done again in the future. I'm so sorry!
The preceding unsigned comment was added by BBQ Turtle (talk).

It's OK. Originally I did stuff I wasn't supposed to do and learned very quickly from my mistakes. Now, I can provide top-quality edits on any page. Eventually, you'll get used to how the wiki works and be an expert editor. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 17:14, 4 March 2017 (EST)
Thank you so, so much! I'm really not trying to be rude, but would I still need to appeal against the warning to have it removed or downgraded
The preceding unsigned comment was added by BBQ Turtle (talk).
I would advise it, because a warning like that remains on your permanent record, and as you stopped performing the action after receiving the informal reminder it does come across as unwarranted (no offence Owencrazyboy9). Yoshi876 (talk)
Where does the appeal need to be placed? Does it need to go beneath the waning, or on a different page?
The preceding unsigned comment was added by BBQ Turtle (talk).
The appeal goes on this page. Follow the layout it has on there, and wait a few days for the staff to discuss. Also, remember to sign your comments, to do so use: {{User|BBQ Turtle}} Hope that helps :) Yoshi876 (talk)
Is that in the cases section? {{User|BBQ Turtle}}
Sign the comments with four ~ instead. Much easier :P Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 17:51, 4 March 2017 (EST)
Thanks! When appealing, does the appeal need to go in the cases section at the bottom?
The preceding unsigned comment was added by BBQ Turtle (talk).
Yes it does. Yoshi876 (talk)

Mario Kart 8 sponsors[edit]

I noticed that you started adding the sponsors on Mario Kart 8 tracks. Maybe you already knew it, but here you can find, in the models of the tracks, all the sponsors' signs that you can upload on the wiki to then create galleries. It doesn't contain the textures of the objects such as cars, buses and airplanes (those will have to be manually uploaded by me, when I'll have time), but it might be a nice start, if it isn't too much work for you.--Mister Wu (talk) 18:28, 10 April 2017 (EDT)

Hi, I would really love to be able to do that, and if I could do it I really would. But the thing is, I am absolutely terrible with all things that include uploading and the computer (It usually takes me five attempts to properly edit anything), so I don't think I'd be able to do it, I'm terribly sorry. Right now, my high-tech method for finding all of the sponsors is my brother driving round courses on time trials and ramming into walls when we see a sponsor, and me writing it down in a notebook! I'm so sorry that I can't do it, but hopefully all of the courses in Mario Kart 8 should have sponsors by the end of next week at the latest, and then I'm onto Mario Kart Wii. I'm extremely happy to hear that you'll upload the trucks and buses at some point though! :DBBQ Turtle (talk) 13:27, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
Oh, I also forgot to say thank you so much for actually noticing! I know it is a rather minor subject, and it doesn't stick out obviously, but it is nice to know that some people are looking at it! By the way, I finished the entire lot today! But thank you so much for noticing, and I do apologise for not being able to upload any more images. BBQ Turtle (talk) 14:12, 13 April 2017 (EDT)
Don't worry about that, I too will likely not be able to upload all the sponsors. Your idea is nice, anyway - in the past Mario Kart games the sponsors were typically covered in the galleries, but in the case of MK8 covering the single courses makes sense as there's a lot of sponsors now and the banners of the same company can even change depending on the course! Thanks for this initial work. I also wish you a happy Easter!--Mister Wu (talk) 18:59, 13 April 2017 (EDT)
Very happy Easter to you too. I'm going to see what I can do, but I'm very happy to hear that you're going to try and help. BBQ Turtle (talk) 06:19, 14 April 2017 (EDT)
I would be willing to help, actually. I had also responded to your request on the talk page you asked in, also (coincidentally) linking to the same site Mister Wu linked to. Just give me time, I won't be available today. BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 19:30, 13 April 2017 (EDT)
Thank you, I found that yesterday but I didn't have time to reply on the talk page, I was actually going to go and do it now! Thanks for offering to help whenever you can, I'll see what I can do too, but I was given lots of homework to do over the holidays so I may not have much more time. I may be able to start some today though! BBQ Turtle (talk) 06:19, 14 April 2017 (EDT)
I've finally managed to get stuff from that website! I'm trying to upload as much as I can at the moment, I've got everything we were missing (and some I didn't realise that were missing) from Toad Harbor though!:D BBQ Turtle (talk) 14:18, 14 April 2017 (EDT)

Image Category Reminder[edit]

Hello, BBQ Turtle. Good job on your recent uploads, but when uploading files, keep in mind that you must correctly categorize the file. It's simple to learn how to do so. Just search for the correct category by starting with the following groups:

Images Audio/video files

When uploading, copy the full title of the category and insert it in square brackets into the summary text box below the {{aboutfile}} template, replacing the {{uncategorized}} template entirely. If you're using the upload function from the text editor, simply add the category link to the description. For example, files related to the game Super Mario World would use:

[[Category:Super Mario World images]]
[[Category:Super Mario World media files]]

Please consider the above information before uploading more files. Keep in mind that some files can belong to multiple categories. Do not put images into the media files category, or vice versa. If you continue uploading files without categorizing them correctly, then a warning will be issued. Thank you for reading, and keep contributing.

Several of your Mario Kart 8 uploads today were missing Category:Mario Kart 8 Images. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 14:30, 14 April 2017 (EDT)

I'm very, very sorry, I did not realise that you had to categorise images, and until now I did not know how to. I'm about to upload some more, but I will ensure that they are all categorised as Mario Kart 8 images from now on. Sorry for any issues that may have caused. BBQ Turtle (talk) 14:33, 14 April 2017 (EDT)

Mario Kart Wii quotes[edit]

Most Mario Kart Wii voice clips are already ripped, try checking out The Sounds Resource for them. BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 13:48, 4 May 2017 (EDT)

Thank you, I didn't know that, I'll take a look in a minute. Thank you very much! :D BBQ Turtle (talk) 13:49, 4 May 2017 (EDT)

Moving files[edit]

Hi. As you probably know, moving pages to a new name leaves the old name behind as a redirect. When moving files in the future, please remember to mark the old name for deletion using {{delete}}, as we don't allow file redirects. Thanks! Mario (Gold) costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 07:19, 7 May 2017 (EDT)

Sorry about that, I was planning to mark them for deletion after I had done the lot. I have to stop now any way, thanks for deleting them though. Sorry for any problems that may have caused! BBQ Turtle (talk) 07:23, 7 May 2017 (EDT)

Re:Mario Circuit (GCN)[edit]

Really, it just depends on which side of the page you put the images on. I moved them so that they wouldn't just seem to cut off part of the text. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 13:03, 5 June 2017 (EDT)

Righty-ho, thank you for that. (: Do you reckon I should remove the {{Rewrite}}? BBQ Turtle (talk) 15:14, 5 June 2017 (EDT)

RE: Congratulations![edit]

Thank you :) I noticed that last night, but it's changed now :P Yoshi876 (talk)

Page Categories[edit]

Just something to keep in mind as you're editing: per MarioWiki:Categories, categories relating to games should be listed last (and in alphabetical order). Using Bob-omb Plugs as an example, Category:Mario Companies should be the first category listed, followed by Category:Mario Kart 8 and Category:Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 16:56, 10 July 2017 (EDT)

It's one of the more obscure rules, to be sure, and it's not particularly intuitive. I just keep in mind that the species goes at the top, the games go at the bottom, and everything else gets stuffed in between. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 17:23, 10 July 2017 (EDT)


Since you're adding the sponsors from the Wii U Mario Kart game and its unnecessary remake, will you add the one's from the previous games, like KoopaAir and Luigip/Luigi's, which have about the same amount of relevance to the games they're in as these do? Just curious. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:46, 26 August 2017 (CT)


Hello there. I come baring news, both good and bad. Bad news: several members, including myself, were wondering about the validity of the sponsors pages you have been creating. You have done a good job finding all this information, however we've concluded that separate pages for the sponsors aren't necessary and could easily fit into a List of Mario Kart sponsors page, to go along with the Gallery:Sponsors in the Mario Kart series page. That's the good news. You're welcome to include everything onto one page, meaning your information wouldn't be lost, and have the individual pages become redirects. However, it's been noticed that some of the information is speculation, so (while I'm not seeing any myself) be sure to go over your work during the move. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 12:02, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

The only other way I can think of is the outright deletion of them, but I don't think you'd want that. I realize there are a lot of sponsors in the Mario Kart series, but it really would make more sense to have them as a list. The speculation surrounding what we think they do would have to be cut, as all we have to off of on this is the logos. There's no solid concrete evidence of anything the companies do, really. You've done a good job, but the pages really don't need to go that in depth about the sponsor. For all we know, Nintendo didn't put any (or at least, little) thought into making them and just made a logo of some kart-related kind.
"Validity" may have been the wrong word to use. I think I meant "relevance"? Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 16:21, 31 August 2017 (EDT)
If you're worried about a full list of sponsors being too large of a page (and I totally agree, it would be HUGE), separate articles for the individual games would work as well, like List of Mario Kart 8 sponsors. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 22:42, 31 August 2017 (EDT)
If you're unsure as to how to structure the page, you can always make a post on the forums about it. And once the page is created, other users can help with the speculative stuff.
For the sections, a simple description of the sponsor, such as who it's based on and what it's about, will do along with an image. Your idea sounds good, I like the table chart idea :) Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 15:55, 1 September 2017 (EDT)
Yeah, they can be left as is for now. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 16:09, 1 September 2017 (EDT)

There's no need to put "I'm not vandalizing" in your edit summaries. As long as you explain the purpose of your edit, you'll be fine. However, I will say that it may be best to make the section on the collective page before converting the original page into a redirect so the redirect isn't broken. Just a thought. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 15:27, 9 October 2017 (EDT)

Hello! Just so you know (as I've fixed a few recently), when you move the content of the pages to the new page, please remember to change the redirects that lead to the original page so that they lead to the new page. This helps prevent broken double redirects. Thanks! --A sprite of a Flame Chomp from New Super Mario Bros. Wii.TheFlameChomp (talk) 21:42, 13 October 2017 (EDT)


The screenshot shows it as bright, reflective mahogany, which is red, not pink. Trust me, I've played the game many times, and there are no pink buses to speak of. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:34, 30 October 2017 (EDT)

I still say the greater portion of the buses are a dark, shiny red. The side panels are a light red-to-dark dull pink, I'll give you. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:36, 30 October 2017 (EDT)

Car proposal passed[edit]

It's all you. :) Mario (Gold) costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 19:10, 15 November 2017 (EST)

Looks good!
The trucks and oil tanker can just be in one Truck article, and if they're different (e.g. some of them have ramps / Dash Panels on them), just mention them on the page. As for the taxi, we have a Taxi article for the taxis in Odyssey, but I think it'd be better suited in Car (obstacle). Mario (Gold) costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 23:47, 16 November 2017 (EST)
Sounds like something that could use another proposal. Mario (Gold) costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 19:15, 17 November 2017 (EST)
The proposal can be done under "New features" on MarioWiki:Proposals. My suggestion would be an option to create a single Truck article housing every type of truck, which also mentions the differences between them, if any (i.e. the ramp / glide ramp trucks); an option to create Truck, but also create separate articles for the ramp and glide ramp trucks; and an oppose (do nothing) option. Mario (Gold) costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 04:47, 20 November 2017 (EST)

About you Anagram challenge in The 'Shroom[edit]

Hi, I just want to comment that you did a good job on your first anagram puzzle in the latest issue of The 'Shroom. However, you made a small error in the bonus anagram. You colored the spaces in the main anagrams and had us think there are two "S"s in the answer instead of two "R"s. Anyway, you still did a good job, you stumped me on a few of them, but I'm looking forward to your next puzzle in next month's issue. Char89Charizard (talk) 01:45, 22 November 2017 (EST)

Well the two anagrams that uses 2 colored S spaces are 5. Conker Dynamics and 10. Modest Boo. All you need to do to fix the error is change one of the S colored spaces into an R colored space. And since number 5 has an R in the puzzle, you can fix it by coloring in the spot where the R should be and removing the color where the S was supposed to be. Char89Charizard (talk) 18:58, 22 November 2017 (EST)
Notice a mistake in your latest anagram puzzle. In the last entry you put Rooks Hum Park with the answer as Mushroom Park. Did one of the Ks turned into an M? Char89Charizard (talk) 16:50, 5 January 2018 (EST)
Rooks Hum Mark? But that would leave out the P wouldn't it? Char89Charizard (talk) 17:16, 5 January 2018 (EST)
You did it again. You left out an S for number 10, not to mention you were one letter short.


One thing to keep in mind as you edit: directly linking to redirects is discouraged. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 18:26, 24 November 2017 (EST)

Arbitrarily making exceptions like that isn't all that good. I'd stick to directly linking to the pages. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 18:37, 24 November 2017 (EST)

Order of navigation templates[edit]

I elaborated on my oppose vote on this proposal, which I think you might want to comment on, especially regarding the last point. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 16:07, 18 January 2018 (EST)

Re:Mario Kart Wii[edit]

Oh my thank you so much for the needed edits! I can't work on the article right now but I am so grateful for you pitching in and fixing things needed for Mario Kart Wii to pass. BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 15:13, 6 March 2018 (EST)

Basically, I've already done everything that needs to be featured. Essentially, what Time Turner stated in his oppose is what needs to be fixed. But for articles in general, if you're not sure if it should be featured or not, it doesn't hurt to ask! BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 15:31, 6 March 2018 (EST)

Event table[edit]

Hey. On the Event page, what do you think about copying the row with games under each header, instead of keeping one above all? It may look repetitive, but I think the table would be easier to follow this way. Just an idea. -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 08:08, 5 July 2018 (EDT)

EDIT: Like this:

-- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 08:10, 5 July 2018 (EDT)

I don't see a problem with tucking in an additional row even for the smaller headlines. The table is difficult to follow right now--different versions are divided in such a way that the user does not know which one is which unless they scroll up to see, know what I mean? I know I had this problem, and even if I have it figured out now, I might still not be 100% sure and have to check. I get lost easily when I have to count the columns and remember things at the same time, and one cannot guarantee that other users don't have this problem.
Below I formatted the whole table so that the row with games appears under each headline. The first table lists games with their whole titles, while the other is more abridged in that regard. I'll leave it to you to decide which one looks better than the other or if none are good. Also, it seems that the appearance enforced by the nav template (black bolded links instead of blue links, smaller letters etc.) make the table look even more appealing, so we can format the table ourselves to look similar. -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 06:03, 6 July 2018 (EDT)

Event table (continuation)[edit]

(I've made another section to spare me the tedium of scrolling through the huge table code when writing you a message.)

Adding a new column like that wouldn't change much, in my opinion. If anything, it would clutter the table even more. Again, I find that the most intuitive way to format the table is to add the row of games under each class. After all, the goal of the table is to inform in a clear way, which of course would induce repetitiveness but this is irrelevant to a database-like table. And if we change the links to appear black instead of blue like in the nav template above, we could even make it pleasing to the eye!

On a related note, I'm seeing that your proposal doesn't get much traction. I'm sorry, I wish more people participated to it because it is important. In this case, I think that a NO QUORUM would let you do what you proposed, since the proposal is about a preferable way something is implemented on the wiki. So take an informal support vote from me because it don't matter any mo'. And if someone objects after things are done, they are free to open another proposal. -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 14:46, 6 July 2018 (EDT)

Ok. I'll add it with functional black links. -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 15:22, 6 July 2018 (EDT)

What do you say? -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 06:07, 7 July 2018 (EDT)


Yo, congrats on your promotion to patroller! Keep up the good work, and if you have any questions, just let someone know! :) Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 09:35, 27 July 2018 (EDT)

Congrats on the well-deserved promotion! Mario (Gold) costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 09:52, 27 July 2018 (EDT)

Congratulations indeed, you worked hard these last months, especially with all those Mario Kart sponsors! Good luck on your projects as well! I'm pretty sure you'll be able to surprise me again ;-)--Mister Wu (talk) 09:57, 27 July 2018 (EDT)

Yippeeee! -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 10:24, 27 July 2018 (EDT)

Nice job, there ^^ Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 11:00, 27 July 2018 (EDT)

Congratulations, and nice work on the Mario Kart sponsors and improving the Mario & Sonic coverage. Keep up the good work! --A sprite of a Flame Chomp from New Super Mario Bros. Wii.TheFlameChomp (talk) 11:14, 27 July 2018 (EDT)

Thank you everyone! :D BBQ Turtle (talk) 15:51, 28 July 2018 (EDT)

Yes, and I myself cannot congratulate you enough. Clearly you deserved that promotion. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 11:09, 1 August 2018 (EDT)


He's referred to as a "king" and "emperor" in his Japanese names, pretty concretely identifying him as male. Also, while not all mollusks have specific sexes, Cephalopods do. However, what bothers me about your edit is your changing of mentions of arms to tentacles. They're arms, not tentacles. Cephalopod tentacles are unique to squid, and are the long appendages with the leaf shape on the end containing the cups or spikes, while the long triangular appendages are arms. I don't get too annoyed when people make that mistake, but when they change something to the incorrect term, it really perturbs me. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:25, 15 August 2018 (EDT)

Thanks! I fixed up all the hiccups already. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:53, 15 August 2018 (EDT)

New message[edit]

I'm having trouble creating/recovering an account and I'm not sure who to talk to. Is there a support email address or something that addresses this sort of thing, or should I just message a sysop? I was hoping there would be an admin noticeboard like on a lot of other mediawiki-based sites I frequent, but alas, there doesn't seem to be.

In case someone reading this (bbq obviously included) has the privileges to help[edit]

I am trying to either recover my account "macks2008" which appears to be using an old password & email address, create a new account with which to continue as I don't think there was much on that old account anyway, or both and get them merged if possible. The specific issues with these options are as follows:

  • For recovering the old account: it doesn't seem to be sending an email to any of my current addresses, so I assume the password and email associated with the account are long out of date. Can't recover with an email address I don't have any more, so...
  • For creating a new account: the captcha was not showing up and, after I failed it twice (because it's invisible...), a box at the top of the page informed me my IP was blocked from account creation for an unspecified period of time (presumably 24 hours). I'll try again tomorrow with a different browser (or possibly today with TOR), but in the meantime I'm SoL on this one as well.

PS:I have the same issue with captchas not showing up when I'm making edits like this, so chances are it's something to do with my browser since Microsoft Edge doesn't have this issue. It would be good to know what sort of web element captchas are, so I know what isn't working on Firefox? As far as I know JavaScript, flash, and so forth are enabled, but I've been having weird problems with a lot of webpages, most of which seem to point to a JavaScript problem.
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BBQ Turtle likely won't be online for another two days, so I'll just give you a response on your own talk page... Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 19:55, 29 August 2018 (EDT)

London 2012 Olympic Games Wii[edit]

Like I said on the clean-up thread of the forum, I can work on this game. I can't provide images, but I can definitely work on it. It may not be 100%, but I work with what I got and later improve the article. I am guessing you would want the articles to be similar to 100m (Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games for Wii), so I'll try my best to do it. Just say what you want me to work on and I'll get to it... after I get done with Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS level articles, but, this shouldn't take very long. Red Yoshi in a construction hat walking Yoshi the SSM (talk) 15:23, 18 September 2018 (EDT)

For Badminton (also called Badminton - Doubles), Table Tennis (also called Table Tennis - Singles), and Fencing (also called Fencing - Epee), do you want me to put name (Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games for Wii) and leave the Badminton (Doubles), Singles, and Fencing - Epee articles alone save for about templates (change slightly for first only). Or do you want me to move any of those. Red Yoshi in a construction hat walking Yoshi the SSM (talk) 14:49, 24 September 2018 (EDT)
Ok. Also, it could also be like Canoe Sprint 1000m, as all of these only appear when over the event is highlighted over and when viewing the rules and controls. As for the other three which are like that, they are Equestrian (Equestrian - Show Jumping), Shooting (Shooting - Pistol), and Cycling (Track Cycling - Team Pursuit). I thinking Equestrian should be like the Canoeing article, while Equestrian - Show Jumping be the actual event article. But, what about the other two on this list? And Wednesday sounds like a good day to hear an answer for this. As I should do the Gymnastics and Aquatic's 100m Freestyle first. Red Yoshi in a construction hat walking Yoshi the SSM (talk) 18:05, 24 September 2018 (EDT)
Also, what Synchronized Swimming identifier should I use (when I get to there)? Red Yoshi in a construction hat walking Yoshi the SSM (talk) 19:27, 24 September 2018 (EDT)
Ok. So, when I get to there, I will make it like the others and in the about template, link to the team first then duet. Red Yoshi in a construction hat walking Yoshi the SSM (talk) 13:08, 25 September 2018 (EDT)
Also did this for Rhythmic Ribbon but without Rhythmic Ribbon (Team) being created. Another thing, should I write things about the song? I mean like what circles appear for Rhythmic Ribbon and what actions the player needs to do for Synchronized Swimming. Nothing overly complicated. And to clarify, I would create their own sections on those respected pages. Red Yoshi in a construction hat walking Yoshi the SSM (talk) 16:55, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
I have created all articles for the events of this game. However, I will still need to rewrite all of the Dream Event articles. But, since they already have articles (and I did split the two that were needing to be split (do note that I did leave the other parts on the articles that were split for you to do)) and there are only ten, it shouldn't take long to do. So, do you want me to work on London Party. Also, I feel like there's a place online where people can find out what characters have for events. But, I don't remember where. Whatever it is, it would be beneficial (even if it just helps me find the events), but not necessary. Red Yoshi in a construction hat walking Yoshi the SSM (talk) 22:00, 18 October 2018 (EDT)
By the way, for Dream Long Jump, Dream Equestrian, and Dream Sprint, how should I do these? I am asking because unlike other minigames that are either short or doing the same thing over and over again, these are like courses (where the definition includes levels). Maybe I could work Dream Equestrian into the gameplay section, but the other two aren't as easy. Basically, Dream Equestrian has various things done throughout the level where it would make sense for it to be in the gameplay section. The other two, however, can't be done that way since their gameplay is completely separate from the layouts. And all three of those are not randomized, so they are indeed what one would see if they play the game. Any ideas? Red Yoshi in a construction hat walking Yoshi the SSM (talk) 17:08, 20 November 2018 (EST)

Hey everybody! Fun Stuff reminder[edit]

Hey! Sorry for such a late message to all of you, I've been a little bit caught up in the sea of everything going on. I'm sure a couple of you know how that feels.

In any case, hi, I'm Roserade, and I'm going to be your Fun Stuff Director moving forward! I'm really excited to be working with all of you, and I hope you feel the same. In case you're wondering about my history with the 'Shroom, I actually first wrote for it when I was ten... For better or for worse. Thankfully, I only wrote for two issues before disappearing off the forums, so at least it was a merciful run. Otherwise, I'm very happy to be able to help and give back to a community and newsletter that mean a lot to me.

When you submit your section to me next, if you could please include the following information:

-If you would prefer reminders through the Boards, the Wiki, Discord, or any combination of the three (please only send your section to me through the Boards, though)

-If you're currently on a monthly or bimonthly schedule

This message will be sent over the Boards and the Wiki until I clarify which method you're most comfortable with.

In any case, submissions are formally due Saturday, October 13th, but because of my late message, I'm instead going to say to please get your submissions in by Tuesday, October 16th. This'll give you about five days to finish, so hopefully that's enough time. If you can't get it in, please let me know and we can work something out.

Thank you for reading this, and thank you again for writing! I hope you're as excited as I am, and we can get this ball rolling. (Also sorry about lack of a fancy format, I'm working on it!)

Roserade (talk) 11:16, 11 October 2018 (EDT)

Blocking vandals[edit]

So, i never saw you blocking vandals. Is it the first time you block a vandal? --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 03:27, 24 October 2018 (EDT)

Moo Moo Farm trucks[edit]

Hi. There are Moo Moo Farm trucks in Mushroom Bridge on Time Trials mode and multi-screen player mode with items. There are Moo Moo Farm trucks in Mushroom City on Time Trails and multi-screen player mode with no items. Best Orange Mo (talk) 22:05, 30 November 2018 (EST)


Sorry for the edit warring, he started this. Is it ok? --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 04:13, 9 December 2018 (EST)

Aboutfile-reminder clarification[edit]

Hello, regarding this edit, I apologize for making it sound like aboutfiles were necessary, as that was what I thought, as the fact that people get warnings for incorrectly using aboutfiles made it sound like they where required in the sentence If you continue using {{aboutfile}} incorrectly, then a warning will be issued that is stated in the aboutfile reminder, even if the reminder is only for if you use and incorrectly use the template. My apologies. Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 14:25, 24 January 2019 (EST)

YCW brands[edit]

By any chance did you pick up Yoshi's Crafted World? There's a lot of fictional brands seen throughout the game and I figured since Mario Kart sponsors were your baby you'd like to take on another similar project. Mario (Gold) costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 23:55, April 7, 2019 (EDT)

About to Create a Proposal[edit]

Hello, Miss Turtle. Sorry to bother you, but I have stumbled upon an article which I feel is far too short and is not notable. I placed a message on the article's talk page regarding my thoughts, but as of the writing of this message, no one has replied to it. Which brings me to my question... Should I wait until someone else replies to the message, or should I create a talk page proposal instead? Power Flotzo (talk) 18:05, May 15, 2019 (EDT)

RE:Mario-related media proposal[edit]

Sure, I'd be happy to get some help! Where would you like to start from? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 07:40, May 19, 2019 (EDT)

Alright! I'll take care of everything related to Sonic. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 07:43, May 19, 2019 (EDT)

DK roll attack in Mario and Sonic London 2012 Olympic Games[edit]

Hey there! I was watching a gameplay of Dr. Eggman in Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games, and I noticed that Donkey Kong performs a move similar to his signature "Barrel Roll" from the Donkey Kong Country series. Here's the moment in the video where he does so. It seems to grant a boost of speed. Do you think it's worth adding that info on the Roll Attack page? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 12:27, May 19, 2019 (EDT)

I have a question[edit]

Is editing a page 4 times in a roll considered flooding??? I am on my Last Warning, so I am not taking chances. I want to know if I should give out a reminder. [-]€40 vv@(talk · edits)Hyperluigi.gif 18:04, May 22, 2019 (EDT)

About templates[edit]

While there is no rule about using about templates on pages with identifiers, it is not really needed as if a reader were to say type Rhythmic Gymnastics they would see the pages with identifiers in the search bar, so it would nearly be a guarantee that they will go to the page that they want to go to (And if they entered Rhythmic Gymnastics they would go to the disambiguation page anyways). Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 18:27, May 22, 2019 (EDT)

Dr. Mario World[edit]

My mistake, force of habit for typing "June" for all those references. Thanks for that! Mario (Gold) costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 02:32, June 18, 2019 (EDT)


Hello. You probably don't know me, but I'm Lord Falafel and I've been archiving lots of obscure content on the super Mario wiki and my work is getting close to done. I have been modifying lots of pages like the list of games, the list of television series and films, the list of publications and the list of merchandise. If you want to check out what I've found, please do. I currently have toadette the archiver and bloober helping me out with finding some obscure stuff by Banpresto. So hopefully, I'll get all that stuff on the wiki soon. Lord Falafel (talk) 15:31, July 3, 2019 (EDT)

Table Tennis Plus[edit]

Hello, you forgot to write what the objective of the Table Tennis Plus event is. :) -- KOOPA CON CARNE 19:12, September 20, 2019 (EDT)

Edit: and Boxing Plus.

Mario & Sonic Clean-up[edit]

Er... Hello. How's life going for you?

Anyway, I am posting here to say that I have already pre-ordered the next installment in the Mario & Sonic series. If it's all right with you, could I create articles for some of the events in the game once it comes out? Power Flotzo (talk) 20:54, September 20, 2019 (EDT)

Re: Sponsors rewrite tags[edit]

What I mean by speculation is that by the logo alone the pages speculate on what the sponsor does, even though there's no actual confirmation. Yes, sometimes it's obvious, but as we have no concrete proof of what the sponsor does we shouldn't speculate on it. For each sponsor we should only describe what thier logo(s) looks like, where the logo can be found, and what games it appears in in the general sponsor page. As for redundancy, a lot of sponsors not only speculate but redundantly speculate i:e "this character likely owns this sponsor" when the character's face is directly on the logo. Mind you, information on who own what brand can also be speculation, but speculating on that is also being redundant. He is an example of a sponsor and how it could be fixed:

Boomerang Bros. International Airlines (often abbreviated to BBIA) is an airline that appears as a sponsor in Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and makes a cameo appearance in Super Mario Odyssey. It runs flights to some of the courses from the game, so presumably transports the racers to these locations for the races. It appears to be run by Boomerang Bros. The logo consists of the name or initials in a navy blue sans-serif font, with the first "I" in "International" being replaced with a red-striped blue Boomerang. A different logo has the abbreviation "BBIA" on the left with a red shape on the left hand side, while another different logo is simply the abbreviation on a gray background. It is advertised by means of posters, patches and trackside banners, appears on planes and departures boards, and is referenced on a map.

The problems here are in bold. It speculates on the airplanes transporting racers, and on Boomerang Bros. owning the company, when it really could just be a simple name. I hope I make sense. Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 09:18, October 6, 2019 (EDT)

The redundacy thing isn't really something to worry about that much given that any examples of redundacy on the sponsor pages are example of speculation as well and thus should be removed regardless. For example, I removed the sentence on the sponsor page for Mario Kart DS: "The sponsor's purpose is not entirely clear but its name suggests it relates to Luigi". Of course, it still is speculation, but that comment about it likely relating to Luigi is even a bit redundant given that Luigi is in the sponsor's name, so while we shouldn't still state who owns which sponsor given it being speculation, it is also redundant due to being something that a reader would likely think regardless. Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 17:10, October 8, 2019 (EDT)

Anon vandal[edit]

I know you've blocked them already, but could you delete/hide their edit summaries as well? --ExdeathIcon.png Lord G. matters. ExdeathIcon.png 18:35, October 25, 2019 (EDT)

New sponsor?[edit]

Hi, has the sponsor on this glider appeared before in the Mario Kart series? Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 12:59, November 20, 2019 (EST)

Don't worry, I'm already well aware of your current project with the expansion of Mario & Sonic event articles, so it's all good. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 13:40, November 20, 2019 (EST)


Why do you not italicize in-game text? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 13:13, December 3, 2019 (EST)

The instructions that appear in the infoboxes and Controls sections of your Mario & Sonic Event articles sound like text taken from the game. Quoted text should be italicized to indicate that it is taken from somewhere else and not created by a wiki user. You never seem to do that. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 16:07, December 3, 2019 (EST)
Keep that in mind. It's not essential, but it looks more professional that way :) -- KOOPA CON CARNE 16:35, December 3, 2019 (EST)

Hi there[edit]

Just letting you know that I created a doppelgänger account of your own so that no-one can impersonate you in a cheap way (since capital "I" is too similar to lowercase "L"). Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 13:51, December 7, 2019 (EST)


Hey, congrats on becoming an admin! TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 22:32, December 11, 2019 (EST)

Yes, congratulations! Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 22:41, December 11, 2019 (EST)
I was surfing the wiki, only to find out that you've been promoted! Congrats for reaching the admin rank! Mari0fan100 (talk) 22:43, December 11, 2019 (EST)
Congrats on the promotion. Makes sure to flaunt it heavily and embezzle lots. Good job! Trig - 22:46, December 11, 2019 (EST)
Congratulations on the promotion! You're a great editor and you really deserve it. Scrooge200 (talk) PMCS Mustard Cafe Sign.png 22:49, December 11, 2019 (EST)
Congrats! Niiue - Who has lost his tail? 22:54, December 11, 2019 (EST)
Green looks good on you! Congrats! Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 23:16, December 11, 2019 (EST)
Thank you very much everyone! :D BBQ Turtle (talk) 02:13, December 12, 2019 (EST)

Congratulations! Props for the hard work too!—Mister Wu (talk) 13:55, December 12, 2019 (EST)

Congratulations on the promotion! --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 14:00, December 12, 2019 (EST)

Congrats, gal![edit]

Congrats for being an Admin! Wish you good luck! :D --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 12:07, December 12, 2019 (EST)

Got the Chops[edit]

This page doesn't seem to want to let me do anything on it. When I try to save my changes, it tells me it was blocked because of the "Spam Filter". Is there anything that you or another admin could do? Mad Hunter (talk) 12:09, January 29, 2020 (EST)

Microgames Category[edit]

Hey, It's me again, Mad Hunter! You know, the guy you helped with Got the Chops. anyway, you (besides Porplemontage) are the only admin on right now, so I wanted to ask if the underused Category, Category:Microgames should be used on all WarioWare microgames. Since the category is on very few pages, I wanted an admin's judgement on this idea. I already asked this on the discussion page for said category, but I'm impatient, and these sort of things don't get answered for a while. Mad Hunter (talk) 12:21, February 3, 2020 (EST)

London to Stonehenge[edit]

Since when have speed limits limited Sonic the Hedgehog? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:28, March 7, 2020 (EST)

Well in Sonic Heroes his friends can keep up with him just fine, including Omega with Shadow, so... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:40, March 8, 2020 (EDT)

Game Boy Gallery[edit]

The proposal just passed, so could you delete Game Boy Gallery please? Thanks. --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 12:01, March 27, 2020 (EDT)

Thanks! No worries, it gave me time to remember to clean up the links to it. --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 13:28, March 27, 2020 (EDT)


Do you want to exchange userboxes? DarkNight (talk) 12:48, July 10, 2020 (EDT)

Re:Egg Pawn[edit]

They were called "Eggpawns" in Sonic Team Racing so I thought that was more recent, but if they're back to "Egg Pawns" in Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020 then feel free to change it back! LinkTheLefty (talk) 10:27, August 6, 2020 (EDT)

Recent Mario & Sonic edits[edit]

When you get a chance, can you look into this IP's recent edits on Mario & Sonic DS articles? I don't own the game so I don't know if the changes are correct or not. --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 15:45, November 26, 2020 (EST)

Good to know, thanks! --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 15:56, November 26, 2020 (EST)

A quick apology[edit]

Hey, I just wanted to apologize for blanking my talk page the other day. The reason why I did it is because this account I've been using is old now, and I just didn't want it to be associated with this wiki anymore. I understand what I did and I won't do it again. --Angry Chicken-Owl (talk) 13:23, December 11, 2020 (EST)

Question about a new page: secret passages[edit]

Hi! Recently, I have been looking through the wiki and the Super Mario Encyclopedia to see what the wiki did forgot to cover. And well, I did not find anything except for the secret passage, or secret alcove. These are the "layer 0" walls that you can walk through in most New Super Mario Bros. game. I know these are not concretely something like a character or an item, adn that they are sometimes being mentioned in the level page (for example, World 1-1 (New Super Mario Bros. Wii)), but considering that they are mentioned in the Super Mario Encyclopedia in the category Objects and mechanisms, I am asking myself if a page about those secret alcove/passage could/should be written.

By the way, I'm asking this to you because you are the only administrator online, and I wanted to inform someone that is trustworthy.

That is all! 1JUST1 (talk) 17:13, December 28, 2020 (EST)


Last month I saw you remove some categories I added because they were subcategories of other ones. But they accept them in wiki websites such as Wikipedia and FANDOM. But why don’t they accept it here? -Bowser NSMBU.png BigBowserBoss FIRE! 07:51, 22 February 2021 (UTC)


Big Fire Piranhas were called Piranha Flowers in Super Mario 64
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I think this account is mine[edit]

So, where to begin?

I used to like the Mario series as an 8 year old back in 2012, but now the only reason why I revisit it is because of the music. When I saw that username (Joeypmario), I thought that the account in question might have been my attempt to edit this wiki so long ago that I can't even remember. My interests have fluctuated a lot over the years (from Mario to PBS Kids shows to Danny Phantom; Daniel William "Danny" Wilson and Daniel William "Danny" Fenton/Phantom are pseudonyms I use, but astronomy is one of the few that has remained constant). However, today I went through the account's contributions and saw that it's been operating since 2011, yet I've only been interested in the Mario series since mid to late 2012. I certainly almost don't remember editing this wiki in 2014, yet something tells me I'm involved with that account. If someone has CheckUser abilities, then could one go over the account (and mine) and spot a connection? And if that account is mine, then could you please close it? (I don't want to be associated much with Mario due to my current interests.)

Thanks, Joey D. Pelobello JoeyPelobelloDanielWilliamDanny (talk) 02:30, May 31, 2021 (EDT)

Discussion page[edit]

Hello BBQ Turtle,
please do not edit my discussion page.
--Hydrotoxinlaser (talk) 16:07, June 1, 2021 (EDT)

Paper Mario Weapon Pages[edit]

Hi, I wanted to check with you before trying to make pages for items appearing in Paper Mario: Sticker Star and its sequels, since you deleted a few not too long ago ("Unnecessary redirect/disambiguation page"). Currently, Hurlhammer is one of the top Wanted Pages. How would you feel about giving every major weapon family its own page (Line Jump, Hurlhammer, etc.), but placing information about its variants (Shiny, Flashy, x3, etc.) within the weapon page, rather than unnecessarily dedicating a page to each variant? Black Dog DingoHazel [00514] 06:19, June 26, 2021 (EDT)

Spinning at the olympics[edit]

Hello! I have an inquiry: does the Spin move that specifically originates from Super Mario Galaxy appear in any capacity in the Mario & Sonic games, whether functional or aesthetic? To describe it in case you're unfamiliar with this game mechanic, it is recognisable by the blue, sparkly trail that it leaves around the playable character and is typically used to attack enemies or acquire some extra height while in mid-air. This question is related to one of my edits on the Spin article, in which I removed a paragraph describing Mario spinning in certain Mario & Sonic games; my limited research revealed that it's just a generic figure-skating animation rather than a form of attack or explicit reference to the Galaxy Spin, and I would like a confirmation of this from someone more knowledgeable on the matter. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 18:07, August 17, 2021 (EDT)

Thank you for the information. I did something; please check it out! -- KOOPA CON CARNE 19:41, August 17, 2021 (EDT)
I’ve set up a proposal on the relevancy of some of those Mario & Sonic spinnies to the Spin article. You might fancy casting a vote :) -- KOOPA CON CARNE 20:13, August 20, 2021 (EDT)
I have no clue as to how I managed to brush over your 26 August reply given that I was quite active here lately. Please accept my apologies.
The proposal harboured the premise that Luigi's and Amy's spins are most definitely not nods to Super Mario Galaxy, given that the colour of their spinning blurs is not blue, unlike Mario's. They were only brought up to single Mario's spinning animation as a potential reference; still, it's all but confirmed they're derivatives of Mario's animation, so they ought to have a mention on the Spin article all the same.
You bring up a good point: it's likely the developers recycled the spinning animation seen in 2010 Vancouver, unquestionably our Galaxy Spin move, for 2012 London's 4x100m Relay, in the context that most other characters perform signature, game-referencing moves in said event. Honestly, this is the type of discussion I hoped the proposal would spark, but I think the current arrangement is more than fine as it is. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 08:39, September 5, 2021 (EDT)

Yoshi the Koopa[edit]

A developer comment from the 25th anniversary booklet enclosed with the Wii version of SMAS says "Yoshi was originally intended to be a type of Koopa. The saddle was supposed to be a shell." Mister Wu (talk) has found a whole bunch of more recent instances of him being identified as a shelled turtle, indicating their stance has shifted back. You can ask him for more details. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:12, September 19, 2021 (EDT)

I'm not BBQ Turtle, and I'm unsure if I'm allowed to respond, but I thought it was always confirmed the thing on his back was a shell. Only in the SM64 days was it called a saddle. I've also heard of Yoshi's full name being "Yoshi Munchakoopa", which really confirms it out loud. Hope this helps. ☆Scarlet Pairo☆ Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! talk 20:05, October 23, 2021 (EDT)

Howdy :)[edit]

Hi, how are you? I wanna get to know more people here, I'm relatively new to this Wiki. You're a talented artist! Anyways, I'm looking for some cool ideas for userboxes. Got any ideas? Thanks a lot :P ☆Scarlet Pairo☆ Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! talk 20:05, October 23, 2021 (EDT)

By the way, if you want, you can sign my page at the friend list at the bottom of my user page. Doing so will earn you a prize ☆ ☆Scarlet Pairo☆ Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! talk 22:37, October 23, 2021 (EDT)


Hey, you can sign at the friend list at the bottom of my page, and if you do so, I'll prepare a gift for you ;D ☆Scarlet Pairo☆ Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! talk 19:23, October 30, 2021 (EDT)

File:Mario Sonic Sochi Medley Ceremony.jpg[edit]

Hi, I noticed that this image was removed by you when you rewrote the Snowball Scrimmage article. Right now, its currently unused, so do you have an idea where it could be put on the article? Wario (Cowboy) from Mario Kart TourWildWario (talk) 07:32, December 10, 2021 (EST)

No longer using Discord[edit]

Just letting you know that I set my Discord account to be permanently disabled in 2 weeks. I don't want to talk about why (and here is not the right place to anyway). Results May Vary (talk) 12:39, March 8, 2022 (EST)

RE: Rio[edit]

Sure, go ahead. Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 11:52, March 16, 2022 (EDT)


You have reverted Candy Kong article specifically. I did put this information in other Kong page as well, Lanky Kong and Tiny Kong. Please do not revert necessary information. They haven't had any physical appearance in the last 10 years. Windy (talk) 05:51, September 4, 2022 (EDT)

please help[edit]

Hi, I need help, please can u help me? please respond and I’ll explain supergamer286 (talk)

Deletion requests[edit]

Hi BBQ Turtle! Sorry to bother you, but you're the only Staff Member on the wiki as of typing this. Is it okay if you delete File:MLPFIM Trixie.jpg and SMRPG Golden Belome statue.jpg? The first one is a personal image that I accidentally uploaded in JPG format instead of PNG, so I need that deleted so I can upload the PNG version. The second one is basically a duplicate image. Thanks in advance! link:User:Sparks Sparks (talk) link:User:Sparks November 26, 2023, 16:29 (EDT)

I've handled the images. Thank you! Icon showing how many lives Mario has left. From Super Mario 64 DS. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 17:21, November 26, 2023 (EST)

Frappe Snowland[edit]

regarding the latest issue of The Shroom's anagram puzzle - nothing important just letting you know that Frappe Snowland is two words, not three. thank you have a good day - YoYo Yoshi Head (light blue) from Mario Kart: Super Circuit (Talk) 12:10, January 21, 2024 (EST)


Since you liked my Mario & Sonic missions table, do I have your permission to create a few more Mario & Sonic table templates, if there's a consistent structure with the data? One example would be for staff ghost data in the DS version of Olympic Winter Games, like Luge and Alpine Skiing GS. Another would be for story mode challenges in the 3DS version of London 2012, like Junior Hits England. Super Mario RPG (talk) 11:01, May 19, 2024 (EDT)

Does this template help too? (For example, check Deluxe Halfpipe). I found a consistency between the in-game controls text for Winter Games events, and hopefully this will help eliminate all that empty spacing issue to the side, since i didn't like reading it vertically. Super Mario RPG (talk) 22:17, May 21, 2024 (EDT)
Okay, it's marked for deletion. Super Mario RPG (talk) 08:34, May 22, 2024 (EDT)