User talk:Scrooge200

Scrooge200 has been blocked until June 9, 2026 from editing the Super Mario Wiki for repeated misconduct after a previous ban for poor conduct, via thinly-veiled snide remarks and inflammatory, bad-faith comments and refusing to acknowledge behavior when confronted, instead deflecting to misgivings with other users. See the block log.

Scrooge200's Talk Page Archives Archive 1: Talk Page Bananza A lot of people ask me about Donkey Kong. (September 2018 - September 2020) Archive 2: Check Your DMs Many conspiracies happen. (September 2020 - December 2025)

Only talk to me on my talk page. Do not contact me on Discord, the Mario Boards, your BlueSky, your Threads, your Mastodon, whatever you have that isn't on here. It makes everything easier for people who don't want to have 10 social media accounts to follow discussion on a single site that is perfectly equipped to handle it.

RE: Sample removal

I wasn't removing them because I think they shouldn't be covered, I was removing those ones in particular was because they were added by a user who hadn't provided any proof or sources despite me asking them if they were accurate or not. If you're able to verify them, though, you're free to add them back (preferably with references if they're available). Mario JC 10:20, February 3, 2026 (UTC)

Expanding Fireball (sound effect)

Hello, can you expand the informations about Fireball (sound effect) (which is featured in the Super Mario World Original Soundtrack, and first used since Super Mario Bros.)? User:Bel2004/sig 11:48, February 14, 2026 (UTC)

Re:Coin (sound effect)

do you think this article should still have the Template:Construction template? i'm trying to cut down on pages with the construction template that aren't actively being worked on, to make the list more useful. — eviemaybe (talk) 22:52, February 15, 2026 (UTC)

I'd say yes, there's still a couple games and series unaccounted for. Mario + Rabbids, the rest of the Mario Kart games, NES Remix, Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch), Mario vs. Donkey Kong, Mario & Sonic, and any of the sports games. I'm also planning on going down the list of games again to find obscure stragglers like Mario Net Quest and the edutainment games. Scrooge200 (talk) 23:46, February 15, 2026 (UTC)

i see... but is it being actively worked on? — eviemaybe (talk) 03:43, February 16, 2026 (UTC)

I last added a game and media file to the article yesterday, so I am actively working on it, just alongside other projects. Scrooge200 (talk) 04:20, February 16, 2026 (UTC)

Re: Citations in NIOL tables

hello there! i want to ask you that you please place all the C= parameters in the foreign names table next to their respective names, rather than lumping them at the bottom. it's the standard most other pages use, it makes them serve as separators for each language listed, and it makes it easier to add more languages in the future. thank you! — eviemaybe (talk) 14:41, February 22, 2026 (UTC)

I have hundreds of these to add for different games. I usually merge it in-order if it's a page that still has unsourced names or potential for more to be added (like Fire Mario or Banzai Bill Cannon), but if the subject has only ever been in one game (like most Dream Team enemies, Paper Jam paper enemies, missions), there aren't going to be any more foreign names to add since I'm covering all the bases. Copy-pasting it all in one batch makes it a lot easier to add and it ensures that every name that exists is sourced. I currently use this to list and verify names until they're added. Scrooge200 (talk) 22:50, February 22, 2026 (UTC)

i understand that it might be easier for you, but taking the extra time to do it properly makes it easier for everyone else. — eviemaybe (talk) 00:16, February 23, 2026 (UTC)

But who is going to be editing it if everything is sourced and all the names + meanings are correct? Scrooge200 (talk) 00:30, February 23, 2026 (UTC)

it's impossible to know whether all the meanings are truly correct and there is nothing to add to them. (i had to correct some for Caccac right after you added the sources, for instance.) additionally, it's impossible to know whether a character or enemy will come back and/or recieve a new name, especially with the Mario & Luigi franchise's return, or whether a game will get a remake. even then, if the wiki has a standard, even if it's currently unwritten (we're getting around to updating our policy pages, so don't count on it staying unwritten), it's common courtesy to follow it. — eviemaybe (talk) 00:35, February 23, 2026 (UTC)

The thing is that also needing to sort 10 extra lines for every edit I make is time that adds up, especially with hundreds of pages to edit, especially since nobody really cares about foreign name sources (and one user quit the wiki altogether over it). And nobody bought Brothership so I don't think Acquire has enough money to keep paying their ChatGPT Premium subscription. Scrooge200 (talk) 00:56, February 23, 2026 (UTC)

okay, i am going to tackle these in reverse order:

1. stop it with the Brothership ChatGPT accusations. you've recieved an official warning over it, and this is a genuine conversation about something unrelated to that. you have no reason to bring that topic back up.
2. are you implying that it's okay to ignore common courtesy and not follow standards with your edits, just because you believe the page's subject will not appear in a future game? that is the reading i am getting from your message, and i genuinely want to verify that i am not misinterpreting you.
3. "nobody cares about foreign name sources" is factually incorrect. so many name sources have been added recently. for an example, i'm happy to highlight Nintendo101's excellent job at documenting name sources for every enemy and character in the mainline Super Mario series, one that can be seen by checking the edit history at User:Nintendo101/community garden.
4. even if it costs extra time, it's worth it to be corteous to your fellow users who put in the work in sorting the references properly. if you'd like, we can coordinate and try to figure out a regex formula that allows you to insert the names properly with less effort. — eviemaybe (talk) 02:05, February 23, 2026 (UTC)

I've thought of doing a regex, but the problem is that there is no actual standard for how to format these tables or what order to put them in. Ideally I'd like to be able to go straight from the table into things that can be copy-pasted, but then the meaning and romanization fields would be removed. Scrooge200 (talk) 02:34, February 23, 2026 (UTC)

if we codified an actual standard, would you sort the names as i've asked you to, even if it takes extra time? — eviemaybe (talk) 02:53, February 23, 2026 (UTC)

I might just not do NIOL anymore... it basically is a waste of time and nobody looks at it anyways Scrooge200 (talk) 02:56, February 23, 2026 (UTC)

you are under no obligation to continue. if you fully believe you'd be better off not doing NIOLs, i encourage you to drop them, and pursue something else that you enjoy. just know that at least i look at them, and i appreciate the effort that goes into sourcing the names. — eviemaybe (talk) 03:08, February 23, 2026 (UTC)

Passive-aggressive behavior towards other users

Hi, Scrooge200. Over the past couple weeks and periodically in the months prior, it has been apparent to staff members and other members of our community that you have been pretty passive-aggressive towards other users in proposals, in talk page discussions, and occasionally in edit summaries. Beyond the fact that this is discourteous behavior discouraged in our policies, it is just not particularly nice. One is welcomed to hold whatever opinions they have on the projects of this wiki and to voice them, especially if constructive, but this does not extend towards snide comments towards fellow users. The users who contribute to this site, be it average editors or staff, are human beings that are volunteering their time to contribute to the wiki. You have had an account on the site for seven years and have contributed even longer than that - one should not have to remind you of this. Reframe from this type of behavior going forward. If you have an issue with a particular trend on the wiki or a proposal, I encourage you to voice it directly with the other users involved, not to make passive-aggressive remarks at their expense. This is not just because it is kinder, but because it is more productive and leads to better outcomes. - Nintendo101 (talk) 01:24, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure, then, why so much behavior on this website seems to be dedicated to de-incentivizing users to edit. It's hard to find things to edit when construction, stub, rewrite, etc. templates are removed with no reason when the work hasn't been completed yet. Same with adding pointless busywork that affects maybe two people? It was enough to make me give up on NIOL. I'm also working on this solely as a volunteer on my own free time, and I don't like when people make it needlessly harder.

And seven years ago people weren't obsessed with shit-talking each other on Discord while making the on-site experience worse. Complain about what I say but at least I'm not making you scan your driver's license to the military to read it. Scrooge200 (talk) 02:36, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

I am sympathetic that you feel frustrated on the trajectory of the site. There are matters I also take issue with, and I am sorry if you feel your concerns are not being heard. However, (1) there are plenty of avenues where one can voice their opinions, such as on the Mario Boards, talk pages, proposals, the Discord, etc.; and (2) nothing in your response justifies immature rudeness. We are all adults here. My impression from the proposal raised by eviemaybe recently is that she is motivated to replace some of the working templates we currently have in place for ones that are more user-friendly and allow one to be specific. Like all users, you are welcomed to raise concerns and arguments in the talk section of that proposal, but one's inability to be persuasive does not make the snippiness okay. I apologize if this is too blunt, but it is a little surprising that someone who typically has only made competent and substantive edits for the site like yourself needs to be told this. It frankly should not take effort to treat others like human beings.

As a final note, the Discord is not a walled garden. It is an extension of the wiki userbase that is available to everyone, and regardless of what you have convinced yourself, unsubstantive shit-talking is not tolerated there. I understand the Discord is one of the communications outlets you choose to not participate in, but the only one keeping you from engaging with this tool is yourself. I hope this message finds you well. - Nintendo101 (talk) 03:38, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

I don't think all discussion ever should be held there so people get mad when a non-Discord user don't know. We have a website for a reason. There is nothing in our policy that says being in the Discord is a requirement to be part of contributing. Scrooge200 (talk) 05:08, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

Was someone arguing otherwise? - Nintendo101 (talk) 05:23, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

You just told me that I could join the Discord after I directly told you that was my main problem. Scrooge200 (talk) 05:33, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

I said it was one of several communication tools available to you. I did not say it was a requirement, nor did I say you must join. - Nintendo101 (talk) 05:40, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

"I don't think all discussion ever should be held there so people get mad when a non-Discord user don't know." We've had onsite discussion for years, before Discord was a thing. In terms of offsite chat, before Discord was IRC and Marioboards. You don't have to be part of it if you don't want to, nobody's forcing you to sign up for it, but most active editors sign up by choice because of the ease of use. Chat services where users can congregate and spread messages quickly are an inevitably, and if you can't accept that, perhaps collaboration-focused efforts aren't for you. Xiahou Ba^{(the Nasty Warrior)} 05:52, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

Like half the edit reasons and proposals are "per discussion on the Discord" nowadays and it pisses me off? Why can't we have discussions on the website we're using? Discord is selling data to the government and also very pro-AI, so I don't know why people think that's better. Scrooge200 (talk) 06:24, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

Again, there's nothing you and I can do about it. If you want clarification, why don't you ask users rather than passive-aggressively quip at their behavior? Xiahou Ba^{(the Nasty Warrior)} 06:36, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

Because every comment I make gets ignored because they talked about it on the Discord instead of telling me? Scrooge200 (talk) 06:40, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

That's incorrect and you know it is, your comments in proposals has had plenty of responses. Regardless, I strongly recommend you improve your attitude around these parts because keeping up this facade will eventually net you another ban. We can all do without your snide remarks made towards other editors and unwillingness to coordinate efforts with other users. Xiahou Ba^{(the Nasty Warrior)} 06:42, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

To bring it back to the comment I left on the proposal, about maintenance templates being removed for no valid reason:

• if this behavior isn't allowed, why are people who do it not warned or notified in any way and why don't we have guidelines against it? Why are we passing a proposal to continue encouraging it?
• if this behavior is allowed, why are people denying that it happens and is not helpful to anyone? Half the talk page discussions I've been on fizzle out and months later someone removes the talk template because they think it's done when it isn't. I remember seeing the "Olivia's hints" page at one point, then later wanting to fix it but I couldn't find it again because the template got removed. And even then I was able to add 12k bytes worth of information to it so it probably shouldn't have been removed in the first place.

I'm trying not to get into arguments, but stuff like this is directly interfering with my work on the site. Why is this okay? And if it isn't, why do we let it happen? Scrooge200 (talk) 09:30, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

I get it sucks when trends on the wiki happen that you don't like and especially so if you feel they interfere with your ability to edit. I've lamented some things myself recently! But it really doesn't warrant showing attitude to other editors – if you really are pressed about people removing construction templates, the productive thing to do would be to message the users involved and make a case they may be too hasty in removing them. Not repeatedly prick and prod at specific users and imply they're lazy bums who don't care about leaving a mess behind. And I'm not going to respond to the Discord thing : our messages here are in response to statements you've made here in discussions here, on the wiki's proposal pages, edit summaries and your own userpage.

Since you've made that bizarre talk section about Mario & Luigi Brothership clearly being written with AI and how the article should reflect this, you've been visibly spiraling and it sucks to see. Your work expanding information RPG mechanics and Paper Mario TOK stuff is valuable and appreciated. Maybe Brothership is an uniquely shitty and soul-sucking game – I don't know, I haven't played it. But I'm going to place my wagers on "It may be bad, but it's probably not that bad", and either way, it really doesn't justify the attitude you've been showing to other users in the past months. That all our attempts to try and put you aside and tell you "Hey, can you maybe be less rude?" being met with vociferous deflection, playing the victim and even more attitude is frustrating, to be honest. --Glowsquid (talk) 15:02, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

I want to address the Discord thing, because as someone who also isn't in that server, I get it. You're not alone in feeling like there's a voice at the back of your head repeatedly saying "there is a secret society that talks about us and polices our edits". I've contended with it. I made a proposal to cover porn references, for crying out loud, and I'm convinced there was some level of wry amusement in there at the expense of the topic.
But as Nintendo101 stated: entry into that server is open to anyone, and it is entirely our choice not to be a part of that side of the community. Not only that, but I assume it's well-moderated and buzz talk and slander is frowned upon, which helps me lend no credence to that vexing inner voice I talked about. In the (unlikely) event that this is not the case, it's not on you and I bet many would happily condemn that.
Please just keep doing your work and take these small frictions in stride. I don't want to see you banned again. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 16:12, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

AI companies are not your friends. As Patrick Seitz recently said, companies using AI are not going decrease the price of clearly cheaper and inferior products. There is no benefit to you as a consumer, the real people working on the project, or anyone outside of shareholders who aren't engaging with the media anyways. I know people who make exceptions for AI because "it's fine when it's funny" or "it's okay if you use it for memes" or "it's not affecting my job" but that doesn't help, you need to reject it in all forms. I'm not alone in having strong takes on AI, there was enough backlash against the AI-generated images on ItsGalaxyTime.com that Nintendo took them down. Even then, I've just stopped talking about the game, and all those red links are going to stay there because nobody cares about that game anyways.

I hate the idea of "Wiki Discord" culture in all its forms, for any wikis really, because it tends to attract the idea that people are just going to say whatever they want without consequences. It just attracts a mindset where whenever people see something they don't like, they go on the Discord to complain about it instead of talking to whoever did it directly on-site. I think this site's userbase is actually worse now that there's so much emphasis on the Discord, it makes everyone meaner and harder to interact when people can just do whatever they want all the time unless they read it as a personal offense against them. I added the word "shit" to an article and got no pushback but when I said Brothership wasn't a 10/10 best game ever like 5 separate people got mad at me?

And still, nobody has addressed why removing templates for no reason is a good thing that should be encouraged. Ig this doesn't matter since we're probably going to overturn the to-do template in 3 months when it just clogs up every article and nobody wants to fix it. Scrooge200 (talk) 21:03, March 9, 2026 (UTC)

Block

Something I want to stress to Scrooge here and anyone else involved in the discussion is that this is not a ban because you expressed distaste about aspects of the wiki, and that the reason people aren't answering the dozen of things you're bringing up because they're not relevant to the reason why we're messaging you.

This is not a moratorium on you not liking a specific Mario game. People on here hate popular Mario games all the time:

This is not a moratorium on people removing templates. If that presses you, you message the users involved.

This is not a moratorium on you not liking that there's a Discord and that people use it to discuss wiki stuff. If you think people were too quick to make a change citing Discord discussions instead of bringing it up on the talk, you can bring that up on the talk of the affected pages. Or if you think that's too generalized a problem, you post something on the main page talk.

We're messaging you because you were previously banned for being rude to your fellow contributors, and after a brief respite, you've resumed being rude and antagonizing people, and we feel it's escalated and persisted to a level that's no longer acceptable. This is what I said about you deflecting : we've been very clear that our concern here is your 'tude, and your response is always to pointedly ignore it and go "But what about the Discord? / What about the templates being removed? / What about the free masons?" That's not the point.

Should you come back afer this block, we don't need you to prostate and kiss our shoes. We don't need you to subject yourself to a humiliation ritual. We don't even need you to apologize (even if it would be greatly appreciated should you do so), as long as you don't do it again. Just stop spilling your spaghetti. That's all we ask. --Glowsquid (talk) 21:50, March 9, 2026 (UTC)