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Mario Party 10 Wario Render[edit]

Hello, I signed up a while back, but never really posted. Hope I'm doing this right... I was curious to know if you have sources and can by chance find and update this Wario artwork from Mario Party 10 with the official highest-res piece you can find. The current on is lo-res and I know you and User:L151 seem to have uploaded a few hi-res official .pngs from that game. Thank you! MarioLandCitizen (talk) Sunday, January 7th 2018, 19:29 (EST/EDT)

I can't seem to find that one. Sorry that I couldn't be of more help. – Shokora 01:28, 8 January 2018 (EST)

PidgiWiki Coverage[edit]

I learned a few days ago that Bulbapedia covers PidgiWiki. You are a member of that wiki. Just thought I share that bit of knowledge with you. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 12:42, 14 January 2018 (EST)

Saw you do something there[edit]

Does this mean you're back, buddy? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:43, June 10, 2019 (EDT)

Hey! Not exactly, just lurking. – Shokora 21:59, June 10, 2019 (EDT)
So how are things? You left so abruptly it worried me a little. Tried PMing you on TSR but you didn't respond there either. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:15, June 10, 2019 (EDT)

No need to worry, we all have our lives to lead. I haven't logged in to TSR for a long time, sorry about that. I'm doing well, making progress in my degree, working and drafting my two books (one non-fiction, one an amalgamation). Tell me about you? – Shokora 06:01, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Hey there![edit]

So, you're back. I didn't expect you to be back that early. But. Welcome back! I'm FanOfYoshi. --SMW2yoshi.gif FanOfYoshi 06:34, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

Hello hello[edit]

Life treats you well, I hope. --ExdeathIcon.png Lord G. matters. ExdeathIcon.png 00:52, July 20, 2019 (EDT)

Intent to continue[edit]

Greetings. I was wondering if you were still intending to continue your List of audio samples used in Mario games project? If so, then you are more than welcome to ignore this entirely. If not, could you please let me know? I will probaby end up deleting the extra audio files if you don't plan on keeping the project around. Thanks! Trig Jegman - 21:29, February 8, 2020 (EST)

Hey, thanks for getting in touch. Unfortunately I can't commit to finishing that project. Anybody is welcome to adopt it and see it through. – Shokora 21:23, February 10, 2020 (EST)
Thank you very much for responding. I will try to hold on to these audios in an offline storage in case you (or someone else??) wants to try and use them later. Trig - 22:51, February 10, 2020 (EST)

Actually, I'd like to at least split off the complete information on that page to the individual game articles. Please allow me a week or so for that. Cheers. – Shokora 00:32, February 11, 2020 (EST)

Hi[edit]

How've you been? Just popping in occasionally? Zero Suit Samus pose SMM.png Mario JC 20:20, February 18, 2020 (EST)

Hey mate! I've been well, just having a good old lurk. How are you? – Shokora 20:25, February 19, 2020 (EST)
That's good to hear. I'm doing well, wiki's fine but different now with everyone resigning :') Zero Suit Samus pose SMM.png Mario JC 23:28, February 19, 2020 (EST)

Friends?[edit]

Can we exchange userboxes? DarkNight (talk) 00:58, June 24, 2020 (EDT) DarkNight (talk) 00:58, June 24, 2020 (EDT)

Sure we can. – Shokora 23:49, June 24, 2020 (EDT)

Wario Land 4 Enterbrain[edit]

Hi, so I know this was quite a while ago, but I noticed that you added references to an "Wario Land 4 official Enterbrain Japanese game guide" in a few places like the Kaentsubo and Yūrei articles. I've been thinking lately that the wiki really needed to clean up foreign references to ensure they are all from official sources. Just for clarification, what was the name of this guide, and does it have the credentials mentioned here? Also, is the reference for Hotaru supposed to be the Shogakukan guide or the Enterbrain one? LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:15, July 1, 2020 (EDT)

Hello Link! Apologies about the slight delay in responding. I do believe the Enterbrain guide is official; here is the front cover as well as the publishing information citing Nintendo on the inner page. Thanks for bringing up Hotaru, I think that non-specific reference was leftover from when I thought there was only one official Japanese game guide (I've since amassed three which all seem official albeit by different publishers). The Hotaru reference came from the Shogakukan publication, here is the page. Walkazo translated it for me back in 2013, she said "Firefly is simply called "Hotaru" (in katakana), which is the word for "firefly" - but it'd still be better to rename the page accordingly." Let me know if you need any more info or any close-ups/other pages photographed. I'll try and work through your other queries on the WL4 enemy pages too. – Shokora 09:54, July 4, 2020 (EDT)
Mister Wu told me that the phrase 「協力/任天堂株式会社」 or along the lines is the one to look out for, so it checks out. I don't need any specific scans, but if you don't mind, there are a number of images in the gallery that can probably also clarify their guide and page (I counted seventeen). Otherwise, I'll ask: the guides don't give separate names for the Jewel Piece Box and jewel piece pickup, right? I suggested a merge since the similarly-contained Health item [does it have a Japanese name?] isn't separated. I'm also curious if Cuckoo Condor's unhatched egg is mentioned, and same with the unhatched black egg. I imagine it's probably 「タマゴ」 generically, but it might be worth adding to the article at least. Lastly, are the legendary treasure names conjecture, and I take it there isn't anything else workable for the conjectural titles here (maybe the slot is fine)? Thanks for your time. LinkTheLefty (talk) 19:54, July 23, 2020 (EDT)
I'll need a few days to get back to you this- hang in there! – Shokora 05:52, July 24, 2020 (EDT)

Hi Link. I've updated the sources for all those images with the publication name and page numbers. Here is what I could find in relation to your questions across the three guides (see description for publisher/page no.)

The treasures aren't collectively referred to in an obvious way. In fact I do believe the legendary treasure names are conjecture. Here's what I'd ideally like to be done eventually:

After those are sorted, here's a list of the remaining conjectural articles which probably need to be eliminated using generic terms from the Japanese guide books, or otherwise from the internal files seen in the recent leak (do you have experience reassembling source code?)

That should account for everything! – Shokora 11:51, August 3, 2020 (EDT)
EDIT: Updating as files/potential names are found

The source code stuff is interesting timing... I don't see why not put it all to good use. I did notice that the pin enemy is mentioned in s_BOSS_YOKI_TEKI_IN_1.o, s_BOSS_YOKI_TEKI_IN_2.o, s_BOSS_YOKI_TEKI_IN_3.o, and s_BOSS_YOKI_TEKI_IN_4.o under the sound effects, so maybe "Teki" really is the correct name after all, as odd as it sounds? Otherwise, I agree with your proposed changes in general (well, I'm not so sure about moving Compressor to weight). LinkTheLefty (talk) 03:42, August 9, 2020 (EDT)
Judging by the naming conventions the source is using, Teki is probably a collective term for enemies. There's a whole folder called "TEKI" at sound\midi\SFX with sound effects for many enemies. I think the graphics for the pin enemy is grouped with the boss, I saw that the mechanical fish graphics were included with the Catbat bat on Cdoramori_hage.c. There's a lot to sort through- there's an object called Oshittuki_togedon.c which could be it.
Compressor seems to be a conjectural name, and we could either go with "weight" from the manual, or "piston" from the files (and the object is more accurately represented as a piston than a generic weight).
Shokora 09:26, August 9, 2020 (EDT)
Right, I thought you meant merging it to the current weight article. Yes, the article definitely needs to be changed, although for what it's worth, the Scholastic Warioland 4 book uses both terms at least once: on page 29 ("I went back and messed with that number block and made the mistake of setting it on 4. WHAM! This huge piston flattened me!") and then on one of several color pages between pages 32 and 33, which just references the Flat Wario profile from the manual ("Wario has been smashed flat by a weight."). Piston also shows up regarding The Curious Factory on page 57 of Nintendo Power Advance V.3 ("In the first area, Wario will have to busy himself with rotating platform machines and huge, smashing pistons."). Overall, "piston" seems to be specifically that object while "weight" sounds more generic. What I would do is go with piston, but either move the Wario Land II info over to Pouncer or split it into its own "weight (object)" article (D-Bat has a separate profile in the Shogakukan guide and is only identified by itself in Picross NP Vol.7, so it doesn't seem like its block properly belongs in the same article). The Yoshi's Story object is also referred to as a "piston" in the Player's Guide (pages 112 and 114), as well as the official website and Prima's Nintendo 64 Game Secrets, 1999 Edition (page 115), so it can stay for now. Additionally, I noticed some early names that may be worth noting, like Kondarā (Cuckoo Condor) is "CONDOKE" according to the sound files. Other than that, I was thinking of having "Wario's Treasures" changed to something like "Treasure (Wario franchise)", since it's more of a proper title and more accurately said that the treasures don't exactly belong to Wario until the player collects them. LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:31, August 9, 2020 (EDT)
Completely agree with moving to "Treasure (Wario franchise)". Regarding the different pinball blocks, I think I'll roll with (pun intended) creating the articles for them as they are separate objects with different functions. – Shokora 08:52, August 15, 2020 (EDT)
On the topic of treasure, I was also thinking of splitting the Wario Land 3 treasures, or at least making a "list of Wario Land 3 treasures in other languages", because most all treasures in that game have individual Japanese and English names and I'm not sure where else to put that information without cluttering the level articles. What do you think? LinkTheLefty (talk) 05:05, August 31, 2020 (EDT)

Hi Link. The WL3 treasures are an interesting case. I feel the table on the level article is too long to keep in its entire state. What I would do is keep the first five Music Box treasures on the level article in table form, as they are essential to completing the game, and having a {{main|List of Wario Land 3 treasures}} link at the top of the section to direct readers if they want to see info about the other 95 treasures. Of course, it could still get a section on "Treasure (Wario franchise)", but again the large table warrants its own article.

I think a "List of Wario Land 3 treasures in other languages" page could also be made separately, as we already have List of Kingdom Builder items in Super Mario Run and List of Kingdom Builder item names in other languages split (although I think presentation could be improved on the latter).

Shokora 06:58, August 31, 2020 (EDT)

Hiya![edit]

Nice to see you back around and editing more! Quarantine must've been boring if you had to come here :P Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 01:17, July 22, 2020 (EDT)

Hey Alex!! Good to see you too. Yes my city is in lockdown again after a second wave. I’m only doing the right thing by playing games and editing, haha. – Shokora 01:39, July 22, 2020 (EDT)
Hope you're doing okay, Shokora, stay safe. Zero Suit Samus pose SMM.png Mario JC 09:21, July 22, 2020 (EDT)

Thanks mate, you too. – Shokora 22:47, July 22, 2020 (EDT)

Welcome[edit]

Hey Shokora, we retired the {{welcome}} template in 2017 so we're no longer transcluding it on user talk pages. Zero Suit Samus pose SMM.png Mario JC 06:58, August 12, 2020 (EDT)

Oh... Sorry! Old habit, that completely dodged me. – Shokora 07:05, August 12, 2020 (EDT)

Paper Mario: Sticker Star Wiggler[edit]

Are you certain you want to override this file with this file? Toadette icon CTTT.pngArchivistToadettefont.png(T|C) 10:33, August 25, 2020 (EDT)

Never mind. Apparently you do. Toadette icon CTTT.pngArchivistToadettefont.png(T|C) 10:34, August 25, 2020 (EDT)

How are you awake?![edit]

In Australia it's 3AM! Also, why aren't the BJADON pages semiprotected? --DarkNight-Sig1.jpgDarkNight-Sig2.jpg 13:19, August 26, 2020 (EDT)

Well... depends where I am in Australia :) The west coast is two hours behind. I'll ask what the rest of the admins think about protecting the pages. – Shokora 13:24, August 26, 2020 (EDT)
Still, it could be also 2AM or 1AM! --DarkNight-Sig1.jpgDarkNight-Sig2.jpg 13:27, August 26, 2020 (EDT)
You got me there. – Shokora 13:31, August 26, 2020 (EDT)

Kersti's advice[edit]

I saw your in-progress "Kersti's advice" page, and I like the idea. Would it be okay if I made a "Huey's advice" article for Paper Mario: Color Splash? PMCS Mustard Cafe Sign.png Scrooge200 (talk) 15:32, August 29, 2020 (EDT)

Hey, thanks very much! It's been a long time in the making, since I wanted to play through both a North American and PAL copy to record all the differences. You're very welcome to go ahead and make one for Colour Splash. I read somewhere you had access to the game's text files? That'll make the work much easier, because at least in Sticker Star depending on the order you complete things, not all of Kersti's advice can be heard on a single play-through. Let me know if you need a hand with formatting/presentation, I like that kind of stuff.
Shokora 01:51, August 30, 2020 (EDT)
I do have the text files for both Sticker Star and Color Splash, but only the North American versions for both. I don't think Color Splash has many regional changes, but I'll keep it in mind and will ask you if I need help with formatting. PMCS Mustard Cafe Sign.png Scrooge200 (talk) 02:24, August 30, 2020 (EDT)
Do you mind if I see the files for Sticker Star?
Shokora 02:33, August 30, 2020 (EDT)
Sure, here's a ZIP of them on Google Drive (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GorMgwYhT4LXMwQWiflYtv3CjaYR3EeI/view?usp=sharing). I'll delete this file once you've downloaded them, so please let me know when you do. They're in MSBT format, and my program of choice for opening those is Kuriimu. PMCS Mustard Cafe Sign.png Scrooge200 (talk) 02:47, August 30, 2020 (EDT)
Downloaded. Looks fascinating, thanks very much.
Shokora 02:54, August 30, 2020 (EDT)
Ah, good. It might take a bit to learn where specific text is stored, but it's much easier than getting it while playing through the game. PMCS Mustard Cafe Sign.png Scrooge200 (talk) 03:13, August 30, 2020 (EDT)

Yeah looks like they're all in global_event, and I've already seen a couple that I didn't manage to trigger in-game.

Shokora 03:50, August 30, 2020 (EDT)

I'm pretty sure that's the same with Olivia, because you can press X Button to have her say something depending on what area you're in. --DarkNight-Sig1.jpgDarkNight-Sig2.jpg 14:18, August 30, 2020 (EDT)

RE: Pinch punch[edit]

Yeah it's neat, I think I stoleborrowed the code from one of your old signatures actually. Zero Suit Samus pose SMM.png Mario JC 06:58, September 1, 2020 (EDT)

Aw, it's not the same without that tilt. Zero Suit Samus pose SMM.png Mario JC 06:49, September 4, 2020 (EDT)

Thank you[edit]

By the way, these photos are from the official Japanese SSBU Twitter account... Pi'illoper.pngBlhte (Another calste) 08:05, September 1, 2020 (EDT)

A simple question[edit]

Do you like the gifs I have been adding? thumb|Mario walking in Mario is Missing thumb|Bowser after getting his shell removed in Mario is Missing thumb|Bowser walking in Hotel Mario User:MarioIsMissingDos 09:00, September 1, 2020 (EST)

Not when they're on my page, but I don't mind them elsewhere. Are you making them yourself?
Shokora 09:05, September 1, 2020 (EDT)
I found the Mario is Missing walking animation online, but all the others were made by me. Do you know of any way to get the background from this image, as I have been after this background for a long time, as I would like to use it in a sprite comic. Here is the image that I would like the background from
BeachKoopa-Bowser.png

User:MarioIsMissingDos 10:02, September 1, 2020 (EST)

Hm, if sprite resource sites don't have that background, what I would suggest is going and disabling the sprite layers in the emulator where that was taken, or extracting the map data. I'm not experienced in DOS though.
Shokora 10:09, September 1, 2020 (EDT)

Oh ok, very little from the MS-DOS version of Mario is Missing has been ripped. Really the only things that have been ripped are Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Bowser, Ludwig, but not his death animation, and nothing else. It's kind of sad that this game has been out for almost 30 years and none of the backgrounds, Koopas that are not Ludwig or Bowser, and the Koopaling death animations have ever been ripped. User:MarioIsMissingDos 12:00, September 1, 2020 (EST)

Weird glitch in the exclamation block image[edit]

Whenever I view the full image (ie, with the black background showing transparency), there are strange gray marks on the block's lower rim. Know what that's about? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:53, September 3, 2020 (EDT)

Oh really? I think I see what you're seeing, and it's not on the original from the site. It must have been the way I exported it. Thanks mate for pointing that out, I'll go and reupload it.
Shokora 14:59, September 3, 2020 (EDT)
Looking closer, it's almost definitely uneven transparency. There's a more subtle version on the red one. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:01, September 3, 2020 (EDT)
I see that now. I must have totally klutzed somewhere in the process, thank you.
Shokora 15:10, September 3, 2020 (EDT)
Oh actually, it was in the originals! Looks like whoever was processing them for the official site let their hand slip with the erasing tool or something... I'll pop a white layer underneath and patch them up tomorrow.
Shokora 15:15, September 3, 2020 (EDT)

Re:Latest revision as of 10:12, September 11, 2020[edit]

Oh, yeah, it was me: I just got logged off without noticing. But it is me. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 10:32, September 11, 2020 (EDT)

Electric spark[edit]

Do you think this is similar enough to Denki to share an article? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:03, September 16, 2020 (EDT)

Hey Don. They're certainly similar, but don't think they were intended to be the same. Denki and electric sparks fall from different objects. Denki are much faster and transform Wario into Electric Wario, and the other simply harms him. This is the case with Big Mouth and Utsuboankō, similar enemies with different names/appearance/behaviour get different articles. However in the case of Bee (Wario Land II) and Beezley, I feel they should be merged even though they have different English/Japanese names. Their appearance/behaviour is virtually alike, and they're clearly intended to be the same enemy.
Shokora 08:48, September 17, 2020 (EDT)

Re:Reminder[edit]

Yeah, sorry. My bad. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 16:00, September 17, 2020 (EDT)