User talk:Shokora/Archive 11

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Shokora's talk archives
2011 September – December
2012 January – April | May – August | September – December
2013 January – April | May – August | September – December
2014 January – April | May – December
2015 January – December
2016 January – April | May – December
2017 January – December


I've been thinking that the wiki could hold a contest to design a brand new logo for the Super Mario Wiki. It's a new year, and as far as I know, the current logo is the only one to ever be used (again, as far as I know). --EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 02:08, 3 January 2017 (EST)

We've actually had this logo previously to our current one (I think it was changed about eight years ago). Anyway, it would depend entirely on whether there is enough community interest to change it again. Recently, the banners at MarioWiki:Maintenance and MarioWiki:Proposals have been redesigned, due to the strong community interest at the wiki's forums (see here and here). So I think that any pitch to change the wiki's logo would require that same involvement. If you wanted to pursue it, then I'd suggest bringing up within the "general discussion" topic on the forum's collaboration board. Because ultimately, the admins wouldn't really organise it without that pre-momentum from the community. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 06:04, 3 January 2017 (EST)
I'm not really the type of person that can handle building momentum, i.e. I'm not a leader; I nearly didn't do the bestiary proposal. Someone else should head to the forums for this, not me. What were the circumstances around changing the logo the first time? I also came up with a couple of design logos: Imgur (I like the second one more). --EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 15:00, 3 January 2017 (EST)
I'm not sure on the process of how the last logo was changed, I wasn't even around that far back. Your logos are nice; it would just be a matter of you asking people for their yay/nay opinion on them, and then tending to any suggestions for improvement. And then if there was enough support from other people, then perhaps they would be willing to help you take it further. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 07:24, 4 January 2017 (EST)
Is it too late to add on The 'Shroom under Discussions Seeking Input that there's an ongoing discussion about the wiki logo?

Not at all! I'll update it once I get home. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 20:12, 21 January 2017 (EST)

Thank you! It's important that it gets recognition. Right now, almost everyone over there has said they support the mushroom logo design.--EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 20:23, 21 January 2017 (EST)

Done. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 07:09, 22 January 2017 (EST)

a whatchamacallit term...

Hi. Do you happen to know if there is a term for an easy-to-recognize concept in RPG games? It's this: when the player moves in the field, usually the camera moves as the player does, but sometimes the camera stops moving when the player reaches the edge of a certain kind of region, and if the player crosses the region, the screen turns black and then resumes with the player in the next. (In Partners in Time, the Lakitu cameraman speaks of "rooms", but this doesn't always work. In Bowser's Inside Story, such regions are denoted by rectangles on the map and uncovered one by one.) Does "screen" work, or maybe there is a better word for such "regions"? --A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 10:23, 3 January 2017 (EST)

I've asked around, and it seems that the smaller, split-up areas within RPG games are appropriately referred to as "chunks". And I think the action of darkening the camera when moving from one chunk to another could just be called a "transition". 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 07:51, 4 January 2017 (EST)


Sure! I wasn't aware at all that you are working on those articles. Sorry for that! Also, what do you think of Horned Toady? Is it written well? -- -- ByeGuy1.png ByeGuy.png ByeGuy2.png

Alright, I listened to your suggestions. Said and done. Thanks! -- -- ByeGuy1.png ByeGuy.png ByeGuy2.png
Also, let me know when you finish your work on VBWL. I am curious too see the results because there's so much content from that game that has missed coverage on the wiki... -- -- ByeGuy1.png ByeGuy.png ByeGuy2.png

Deletion of Upload Wars (Continued)

You never got around to deleting a lot of the file history for these files before archiving the discussion! Also both the edit history and file history of File:Pnp-logo.png need removal of certain edits pertaining to piracy websites. I think it is against policy to link to or reference such locations on the internet. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:52, 4 January 2017 (EST)

I'm sorry about that! I'll get around to them as soon as I can. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 00:24, 5 January 2017 (EST)
It's fine. We all forget to do something occasionally. Thanks for getting it done. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:46, 5 January 2017 (EST)

File:SM64 BitDW M25.png - Megadardery (talk) reverted once. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 18:47, 8 January 2017 (EST)

File:Super Mario 64 Wiggler Boss Nintendo 64.png - Starting to get ridiculous. Also it might be a good idea to remove "hack" images (120+ stars, widescreen hacks, etc.). --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 19:49, 5 February 2017 (EST)

File:BulletBillWii.png - Cumbersome list of revisions, especially by B.wilson (talk), who was blocked indefinitely from this wiki for trolling (reverted more than tried to make the image better). Delete those revisions along with any other revisions by others. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 20:05, 6 February 2017 (EST)

Seems like there's been an upload war with File:Star.gif as well. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 23:33, 6 February 2017 (EST)
Taken care of the above two requests. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 23:56, 6 February 2017 (EST)

File:Super Mario 64 (U).png - There's a few reverts. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 18:58, 8 February 2017 (EST)

File:Pinball.PNG - Get rid of Brandondorf9999 (talk)'s edits and other members' reverts. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 01:15, 10 February 2017 (EST)

File:Pit Yoshi.png - Not really an upload war but rather probably someone impatient trying to upload something. Not exactly sure what caused such a thing to happen. Maybe talking with this user could give us an idea what went wrong on his end. I'd prefer you do it because you know me. I'm not really good at talking to people about issues I am noticing. Paper Mario Dizzy.png --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 17:32, 17 February 2017 (EST)

Thanks. I'd already approached him asking what issue he was experiencing. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 03:05, 18 February 2017 (EST)

File:Secret of the Village Underside.PNG - One revert by Henry Stickmin (talk). --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 16:49, 18 February 2017 (EST)

Sorry To Interrupt, But File:Funkpngmm.PNG Had An Upload War Between UhHuhAlrightDaisy (talk) And UltraMario3000 (talk) During The April Of 2011. The Amount Of Uploads For This Image Are Ridiculous!
Shy Guy on WheelsSGoW sig.png(T|C|S) 12:38, 12 March 2017 (EDT)

File:Smsaftergame.jpg Some back and forth between qualities. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 19:43, 12 March 2017 (EDT)

Done, thanks guys. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 23:46, 12 March 2017 (EDT)

File:SpiketopNSMBW.png and File:NSMBW King Bill Render.png have several reverts. --FlameChompNSMBW.pngTheFlameChomp (talk) 10:03, 13 March 2017 (EDT)

File:ShroobChomp.png. I don't know why Green Mario (talk) reverted this multiple times (Also you should probably make this section a User talk subpage).
Shy Guy on WheelsSGoW sig.png(T|C|S) 13:32, 24 March 2017 (EDT)

Taken care of that request. And thank for the suggestion, I understand other users have popular subject-specific talk subpages. But I'd prefer to have my talk history in the one place. Just keep usin' this section until a new talk archive is created. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 08:48, 25 March 2017 (EDT)

File:Spastic.jpg. The same user uploaded the exact same image without variation THREE TIMES IN A ROW! Would it be possible to delete the two duplicates? – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 00:38, 26 March 2017 (EDT)

File:Kenneth W. James.jpg - Delete Gamepopper (talk) and L151 (talk)'s revisions because File:Kenny james bowser.jpg. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 03:08, 27 March 2017 (EDT)

File:Morton Koopa Jr. NSMB2 battle.png has been reverted several times. --FlameChompNSMBW.pngTheFlameChomp (talk) 17:44, 10 April 2017 (EDT)

Boy, this list is filling up. File:Shadowdecal.png has some repeated uploads by the same user. I noticed I can change the visibility of the image revision, would that be the same thing as deleting the revision? Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 22:23, 6 May 2017 (EDT)

Sorry, I totally missed this question. Only administrators have the ability to completely "delete" an image or individual revisions. I think the "change visibility" can only allow you to prevent people from viewing the actual upload or summary. Even if you hid both, I think the revision would still be recorded unless it was fully deleted by an administrator. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 19:05, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

File:Super Mario Maker - Premium Pack - EU.png - I accidentally uploaded twice because I thought it didn't work the first time. --Super Mario Fan 67 (TCS) 10:36, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

File:Mgmetalmario.png - The uploader of the new image accidentally uploaded what appears to be four or five more times. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 12:44, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

File:Mississippi Madness.png - Looks like the user doesn't understand that they should refresh after Special:Upload takes them back to the original file page. Everyone will get something like that. The browser cache is just outdated, which refreshing will fix that issue. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 21:27, 14 October 2017 (EDT)

True, thanks. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 23:38, 14 October 2017 (EDT)

File:Necky Nutmare.png - Not exactly an upload war as it is just one duplicate upload. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 22:56, 18 October 2017 (EDT)

File:Toadette Super Mario Odyssey.png - Not sure what happened here but remove two duplicates. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:59, 22 October 2017 (EDT)

File:NessSSB.PNG - Multiple duplicates of the same two images in recent times. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 23:00, 27 October 2017 (EDT)

File:FakeItemBoxMK8.png - It's a personal image where the user was unaware of the cache issue with File:Mississippi Madness.png. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 23:55, 31 October 2017 (EDT)

A few mistakes on Help and Mariowiki pages

There are two pages that have mistakes and I can't edit them because they are protected so only admins can edit so I want you to fix them. In Help:CSS, in the last section it says If you want to add comments (text that the CSS won't read), put it inbetween /* and */. There should be a space in between inbetween. In Mariowiki:Bots, you will find that there should be the letter s after the word email at the end (the second email). Mr Squid sig.PNG Mr squid Talk Edits 10:00, 5 January 2017 (EST)

Thanks for pointing those out! They've been corrected. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 08:03, 6 January 2017 (EST)

RE:Shadoo Reversion

Ah, okay. Yeah, Glowsquid (talk) explained that pretty well. The section was removed back in May and wasn't undone since until yesterday. I saw it as a bunch of speculation as none of it is truly confirmed, but there does seem to be a significant amount of backstory to this, doesn't there? Apologies for all the confusion. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 12:41, 6 January 2017 (EST)

RE: Super Mario Galaxy game guide

Hey! There's no enemy list in the SMG1 guide (at least for the Premiere Edition; not sure about the Collector's Edition), so I had to look through the levels they appeared in to see if they'd mention "Metallic Goombas" or "Octobeetles". So far, I haven't found any mentions of these two names (The RPG Gamer (talk) added the "Octobeetle" name; might want to ask him when his block expires), but I did find these:

  • "Watch out for the robot Goombas on the planetoid's surface. Mario can spin to knock these little menaces into the black hole or tip them over with a stomp on the unguarded underbelly to earn a coin." (pg. 83; level is Bowser Jr.'s Robot Reactor)
  • "These robots wander around a warp pipe. Spin to knock the robots on their backs, then stomp their vulnerable undercarriages." (pg. 268; level is Dreadnought Galaxy)

The Buoy Base Galaxy section doesn't seem to mention them at all. If I do run into any of those two names, or if there are any more levels they're found in that come to mind, I'll let you know.

As for Kingfin, the guide does indeed only refer to it as "the Bonefin" (odd considering the mission is called "Kingfin's Fearsome Waters"). Some references:

  • "When Mario splashes down on the planet, the Bonefin swims into view." (pg. 248)
  • "After Mario lands two hits on the Bonefin, the behemoth calls in reinforcements." (pg. 248)
  • "After landing the fifth hit on Bonefin, the leviathan crumbles and all his skeletal minions disappear." (pg. 249)

Hope this helps! Mario Gold pose SMM.png Mario JC 07:03, 7 January 2017 (EST)

Found one of them!
  • "Watch out for the metallic Goombas on the twin discs. They'll try to needle Mario as he explores the area." (pg. 104; level is Battlerock Galaxy)
There doesn't seem to be one definitive name for it, as the guide goes back and forth exclusively between names with generic descriptors like "robot" and "metallic". (Also on the same page: "Robotic Goombas wander the discs, complicating Mario's mission.") Mario Gold pose SMM.png Mario JC 08:00, 7 January 2017 (EST)


Hey, congrats on the promotion! I knew you'd be one one day. (Sorry I wasn't there to lend my support!) Mario Gold pose SMM.png Mario JC 17:36, 7 January 2017 (EST)

Way to go!--EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 17:40, 7 January 2017 (EST)

Thanks, guys! 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 17:42, 7 January 2017 (EST)

I go to see Star Wars and I come back to see you've been promoted! Way to go! I was only gone three hours Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 18:53, 7 January 2017 (EST)

At first, I thought it was a demotion (wanted, not deserved), but I guess the ranks were different than I thought. The reason the misconception was occurring is that administrators were doing most of the work that regular users or patrollers couldn't do. Rarely did I see a bureaucrat do those things for the time I was active here. Guess order at which it appears here matters. I'm so dumb Paper Mario Dizzy.png. Anyways, congrats! --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 01:06, 8 January 2017 (EST)

  • Step 1: Called you Shokoroach for real in the proposal.
  • Step 2: You get sad.
  • Step 3: You get promoted.

Therefore, I shall hereby call you Shokoroach from now to promote your good fortune. ;) Mario Green.pngKaBoom! 01:19, 8 January 2017 (EST)

Archived Talk Pages Protected

For the proper archival of talk pages, I think that Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Petey Pirahna Ground Idle.gif should be looked at and associated pages be edited to use File:Petey Piranha Ground Idle.gif instead. This was all caused by a move and redirect deleted. I can't edit these. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 01:26, 8 January 2017 (EST)

All done. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 23:36, 8 January 2017 (EST)
Thank you! I didn't expect you to do the edits for user pages though. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 00:25, 9 January 2017 (EST)

Proposal passed

The proposal I made about creating a template for appeal outcomes has passed, so could you temporarily unprotect the archive pages so that I can apply the necessary changes? P.S.: There's also a template that might will need permanent protection, considering that the feature it was used for was shot down around five-and-a-half years ago. MLPJToadetteWink.gif ToadettetheAchiever 11:14, 8 January 2017 (EST)

I'd prefer to avoid having to protect-unprotect the two archives, so I've just went and did it myself. Also, the Featured Image template has been now protected. Thanks. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 20:38, 9 January 2017 (EST)

Wiki Maintenance things

I have some ideas on how to improve the writing on some of the category listings on the Wiki maintenance page, along with some typos I've found:

"Articles that are yet to be created will be shown as a red link. New articles must follow the Manual of Style, and may only be created by autoconfirmed users."

The "are" should be changed to "have" and "may" should be changed to "can" (as "may" suggests an option otherwise).

"Users who have created stub articles should receive a {{new stub-reason}} reminder, so that they can understand how their future articles may be improved."

Should this instead say the following to be clearer?

"Users who have created stub articles without marking them as such should receive a {{new stub-reason}} reminder, so that they can understand how their future articles may be improved."

"Articles that are tagged with the {{construction}} template are not fully finished"

The "are" is missing.

I think it should be noted in the "Orphaned Pages" box that a majority of them are disambiguations and don't exactly need a link to them.

That's all I caught right now, but I'll let you know if I find any more. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 19:11, 8 January 2017 (EST)

Thank you, those are all very good suggestions. They've now been applied. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 06:25, 10 January 2017 (EST)

Unlicensed Images is missing a link to its category.
Maybe it should be noted that only Autoconfirmed Users can vote in talk page proposals in the Pending discussions section?
Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 13:16, 14 January 2017 (EST)

Unlicensed images don't actually have its own maintenance category, hence why that entry just listed categories that unlicensed images wouldn't appear in. Nethertheless, I have noted the exception. The autoconfirmed part has also been added. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 17:57, 14 January 2017 (EST)

PMTTYD bestiary help

I'm going through and replacing the enemy templates with the proper code to transclude from the bestiary, but for some reason all the PMTTYD enemy templates are transcluding with hp=2}} afterwards and I can't seem to find the source of it.--EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 15:24, 9 January 2017 (EST)

I've had a quick skim through the page's coding, and I didn't spot any issues yet. Perhaps check if the <includeonly> and similar tags are all closed properly? 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 06:25, 10 January 2017 (EST)


Thank you so much, i only created this account about 2 hours ago after being a long time fan of Nintendo and the Super Mario Wiki and was having a bit of trouble with adding things such as text. Now I know what to do and probably wont encounter that problem again.

Thanks again, Alex

What the...?

So I was looking at the bureaucrat list and I see the normal ones, Glowsquid, Walkazo... SHOKORA!? Then I went here and saw that you were promoted 3 days ago. Therefore, even though I'm late compared to some other users, CONGRATULATIONS!
Luigi 64DD.png(talk·edits) 23:44, 10 January 2017 (EST)

Why thanks! :) 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 00:31, 11 January 2017 (EST)

Late Birthday Present Please

Artwork - WARP PIPE (Simple).svg Hi, Shokora! Artwork - WARP PIPE (Simple).svg
This is your cue to get your sections done and sent to me through our forums by January 19. If you can't make the deadline and you have a valid reason for doing so, get in touch with me as soon as you can and we'll work it out.

Also, be careful to keep a copy of your work saved with you, either on your forum outbox or saved to your own devices. If you need to know anything else, hit me up! I'll try and answer any question you have.

Yoshi876 (talk)

Re: Partners in Time screenshot

Whoops, sorry about that. I guess the answer is yes, according to Wildgoosespeeder. Is it possible to restore the JPG that got replaced? DeSmuME's OpenGL rendering option doesn't play well with my Windows 7 environment. In any case, I'll try Linux soon and maybe I can retake the screenshot free of emulator glitch. --A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 05:18, 12 January 2017 (EST)

RE: On issuing warnings

Perhaps I am a bit uptight about how things are run on MarioWiki. I feel this way because I think some things that happen here are too relaxed compared to other Wikis I have edited. Or maybe I am so used to tighter control that it bugs me more than it should and other people get annoyed by my actions. Whatever the case, I am sorry for that though.

I had a feeling I was overusing those templates considering that many of them I issued are getting overturned within the past few months. I thought I understood how to use them and understood policy enough to issue them. The warnings I have been giving were mostly related to images, if I remember right. The overturning records tell a different story though. I started to issue them less frequently with the introduction of {{uncategorized}}. Ultimate Mr. L (talk) was an example where it was doing more good than issuing warnings. As for templates such as {{aboutfile-reminder}} and {{imagecategory-reminder}}, I will continue to issue those because they are more instructional than for keeping a track record of performance, unless you feel differently of course.

The last warning I gave at this time, which was for Toadette the Achiever (talk), I thought was more justified than the previous ones I was issuing because I think they were aware I was in the process of archiving. I don't know where the user was coming from where they said it was just a few minutes in between. I saw hours. Oh well, have to let that one go.

Anyways, thanks for confirming with me that I am being too harsh with my warning issuing. I hope that I can improve how to spot real behavioral issues instead of perceived ones. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:30, 12 January 2017 (EST)

I have flooded the recent changes page! >:D

Thanks! Had some spare time today. :) Mario Gold pose SMM.png Mario JC 23:50, 15 January 2017 (EST)


It is possible for you to enable "change visibility" in order to remove the vulgar contents?

Okay Alien Bunny Sprite.pngL151Onnanoko transparent WC98.png

Re: iQue

Thanks! I'm thinking about a history section now. Neither the Chinese nor the English Wikipedia has had such a section, but the 52Poké wiki (the Chinese affiliate of Bulbapedia) has a detailed one (from a Pokémon point of view), and I plan to write an abstract of it. By the way, there's actually have a question I've always wanted to ask: if a citation applies to a whole section (instead of just one sentence), where would the best place to put it? --A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 06:41, 24 January 2017 (EST)

Passed Proposal

So, the proposal of mine has passed, which means MarioWiki:Galleries needs to be updated to reflect the change.

Also, uh, what do I do with the proposal itself now? Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 19:26, 27 January 2017 (EST)

Thanks! Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 19:45, 27 January 2017 (EST)


Apologies if I messed something up. I'm on mobile.

Hey, my internet is down for the next couple of days, at least til Wednesday. So I'm not able to do any major edits for a while, which includes the layouts of the SM64 levels and missions, until it gets fixed (using my mom's phone at). So, um, make sure no one does my work for me until I get back? Just a heads up. - Alex95

Sure, I can keep an eye out for you. Hope to see you around again soon! 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 02:41, 29 January 2017 (EST)

Proposal Passed, Need Assistance

My proposal passed and I need some assistance modifying MarioWiki:Image use policy, but also to reflect a very old but still enforced proposal about prohibiting bad/fan transparency. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 19:30, 30 January 2017 (EST)

Okay, I will update the page with the outcome of your proposal. But I will wait until my image use policy draft is finished to make a "transparency section" (I'd prefer to have it all updated in one go). 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 20:24, 30 January 2017 (EST)
Sounds good to me. Can't wait for the changes to be added. The transparency part should have been included already, at least since M&SG (talk)'s 2011 proposal passed. At least you can include more to your draft with the image format conversion bit that is now prohibited. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 20:36, 30 January 2017 (EST)
What about cases like File:Paper Mario Japanese logo.png? It seems to involve switching format back and froth. --A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 21:30, 30 January 2017 (EST)
My proposal already covered such a case. That was uploaded before the proposal. As things are discovered, deal with them on a case by case basis. Just one for now. Either keep {{image-quality}} or upload the GIF as-is. The proposal was meant more for JPEG to PNG but I decided to do GIF to PNG as well to be consistent. I have seen many sprites and screenshots in static GIF form that need a proper PNG. I'm also guilty of doing GIF to PNG, but I later regretted it. Unfortunately, I can't remember what images I converted from GIF. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 22:31, 30 January 2017 (EST)

Seeing as how the proposal is in effect, can you restore File:Rocket Start (Mario Kart 8).jpg and delete File:Rocket Start (Mario Kart 8).png? --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 23:02, 30 January 2017 (EST)

Upon closer inspection, I see how AfternoonLight (talk) got the JPEG converted to PNG down to size. Color reduction. My guess is 8-bit color (256 color mode). Now the need to restore the JPEG is much higher. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:01, 31 January 2017 (EST)

I see MarioWiki:Image use policy was updated. Just to clarify one point about bullet point 2, might want to indicate that quality doesn't increase after the bloated file size. See my sandbox if you are unsure what I mean. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 18:01, 31 January 2017 (EST)

Glowsquid (talk) did it for you. Still looking to resolve restoring that JPEG. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 19:34, 31 January 2017 (EST)
Great! 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 19:36, 31 January 2017 (EST)
I hate to bug you again but is there any reason File:Rocket Start (Mario Kart 8).jpg is not being restored? File:Rocket Start (Mario Kart 8).png has been found to be tampered with to display in 256-color mode and prior was JPEG converted to PNG. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 19:32, 2 February 2017 (EST)
Sorry, that slipped my mind. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 19:36, 2 February 2017 (EST)
Thank you. I thought something was wrong. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 19:37, 2 February 2017 (EST)
Oh, I was just looking for the restore. Didn't know you would edit the pages as well. I would have just tagged the PNG with {{delete}} and any sysop could have gotten to it later. Thanks again. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:53, 3 February 2017 (EST)

upscaled screenshots

The image use policy favors actual hardware resolution to upscaled screenshots. Does this "upscaled" include HD renderings like File:FlowerFieldsPM.png, or is it just for consoles like NES, GBA and Nintendo DS where things will be pixelated if upscaled? --A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 10:38, 7 February 2017 (EST)

February, You're My Valentine

Artwork - WARP PIPE (Simple).svg Hi, Shokora! Artwork - WARP PIPE (Simple).svg
This is your cue to get your sections done and sent to me through our forums by February 15. If you can't make the deadline and you have a valid reason for doing so, get in touch with me as soon as you can and we'll work it out.

Also, be careful to keep a copy of your work saved with you, either on your forum outbox or saved to your own devices. If you need to know anything else, hit me up! I'll try and answer any question you have.

Yoshi876 (talk)

Template name help

I'm trying to use the template that goes "For other uses of [so-and-so], see [bleh]." but I don't know the name of it. ...Help? Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 23:29, 8 February 2017 (EST)

Is it Template:about? 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 23:33, 8 February 2017 (EST)
Huh. I guess so. Finally found an example in Wario World and, uh, yep. Thanks! :P Yeah, I guess I was thinking of a non-existent shorter version of that. {{about}} was the one I was trying to find. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 23:58, 8 February 2017 (EST)

Wario Land 4 "Super Hard" TAS

Hey, what's up? :)

I don't know if you like watching TAS videos, but this one just came out and I thought you might want to know.

Banon (talk · edits) 10:51, 9 February 2017 (EST)

Bolded edits

In the recent changes, I've noticed that some edits are bolded. What does this mean? Mr Squid sig.PNG Mr squid Talk Edits

Some edits either appear bold in red or green, when more than 500 bytes of page information has been added or removed. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 23:01, 10 February 2017 (EST)


Thank you! I used to do oversized ones, at least with GCN games, but I started to experiment with Dolphin's capabilities a bit more and found out that a certain graphical mode might be producing screenshots more closely to what real hardware can produce, but at a cost of being extremely slow. The oversizing was due to Dolphin's shoddy implementation of screenshots and me trying to cover it up with something nicer. To get technical and keep things understandable, I think that the GCN's graphical instructions being converted into something that a computer's GPU can understand is a bit off with Dolphin when using OpenGL, Direct3D, or Vulkan because it thinks that native resolution is 640x528 for all games when really it isn't. I even made a note of it in my WIP. I still do this oversizing with Wii games because widescreen is faked on real hardware. Resizing the window to be exactly at native is a pain in the butt and too involved so that is why I still recommend oversizing. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:18, 10 February 2017 (EST)

RE: Virtual Boy Screenshots

I don't know what to think of this. VBjin is the easiest to get into so that is why I selected it. I'm not a fan of including MS-DOS-like elements in the GUI, like ZSNES (also an inaccurate and garbage SNES emulator compared to Snes9x and bsnes). It's a shame that VBjin doesn't have a palate swap feature like FCEUX. The colors are so very slightly off that it's almost undetectable and not worth worrying about. There are a few remedies to this issue of color. You could select the coloring to greyscale and isolate the four shades and apply the correct colors manually. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 14:54, 11 February 2017 (EST)

RE: Art

Regarding the Dr. Mario art, yeah it all seems to be from Nintendo Power. Meanwhile the Mario Clash and Super Mario Land art is all from their instruction manuals. Admittedly, I didn't scan them myself, this lovely Tumblr did. Little Mouser.PNGPaper Jorge (Talk·Contribs)

Renaming vandals

Hey, I saw something Walkazo said a while back (which I can't find now) that said something along the lines of "if we rename a vandal to something like 'Noname', then the original name can be taken by another vandal." Would it be a good idea to just keep the vandal's name as is, however inappropriate it may be, and let it fade into obscurity, so another vandal can't take it? Or is there something more to it? Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 17:46, 12 February 2017 (EST)

Hmm, I think that if you choose to allow redirects to the new name (I didn't), then a new account shouldn't be able to be registered with that name. For example, after I was renamed, a new account couldn't register with the name "YoshiKong" (because that name already redirected to my talk and user page). The main benefit of renaming such users, is that the inappropriate name is hidden in the public block log and new user log. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 17:52, 12 February 2017 (EST)

Re: Userspace Catorization

I'm sorry for the late response. Thanks for telling me! I'll keep that in mind for the future. PowerKamekSignature.png(talk|contribs) 12:04, 15 February 2017 (EST)


Can you delete these images? --EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 18:11, 16 February 2017 (EST)

It should be worth noting that I was trying to keep the old versions of the files: User talk:Eldritchdraaks#Bestiary Work I'm starting to think Eldritchdraaks (talk) and I keep having editing conflicts over the course of this bestiary overhaul. I mean I keep seeing things show up in Special:UnusedFiles and I am trying to clean that up as much as I can and keep it that way. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 18:15, 16 February 2017 (EST)

I've deleted the images. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 02:59, 17 February 2017 (EST)

Thank you.--EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 09:12, 17 February 2017 (EST)

Re: Magic word help

You mean select what sections will have the edit link and which ones won't? I don't think that is possible. Your best bet is to check the documentation. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 03:39, 18 February 2017 (EST)

My best work-around is to create a template for headers+content and protect it. Remember that headers can have between 1 and 6 = signs for each level. Only down side is that admins can still see the edit link. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 03:51, 18 February 2017 (EST)
Using e.g., <h3> for ===, might do the trick:


--A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 06:12, 18 February 2017 (EST)
Beautiful! Thanks. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 06:51, 18 February 2017 (EST)

Fixing FA title

Hi. Could you move to MarioWiki:MarioWiki:Featured Articles/Unfeature/N1/Geno to MarioWiki:Featured articles/Unfeature/N1/Geno without leaving a redirect? I contacted L151 (talk) about performing this action, but I don't think she'll be able to answer my request fast enough, so that's why I'm notifying you. Doing that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! MLPJToadetteWink.gif ToadettetheAchiever 21:31, 18 February 2017 (EST)

Looks like L151 beat me to it :) 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 22:16, 18 February 2017 (EST)
Nice! However, there are more FA pages that need to be moved with no leftover redirect: MarioWiki:Featured articles/A1/Lakitu → MarioWiki:Featured articles/N1/Lakitu (and, in turn, MarioWiki:Featured articles/N1/Lakitu → MarioWiki:Featured articles/N2/Lakitu), as well as MarioWiki:Featured articles/N1/Super Smash Bros. → MarioWiki:Featured articles/N2/Super Smash Bros. (and, in turn, MarioWiki:Featured articles/A1/Super Smash Bros. → MarioWiki:Featured articles/N1/Super Smash Bros.), MarioWiki:Featured articles/A2/Yoshi → MarioWiki:Featured articles/N2/Yoshi, and MarioWiki:Featured articles/Archive/N1/Mario Power Tennis (Nintendo GameCube) → MarioWiki:Featured articles/N1/Mario Power Tennis (Nintendo GameCube). Thanks! MLPJToadetteWink.gif ToadettetheAchiever 17:50, 20 February 2017 (EST)
Those should be all fixed now. Let me know if there are any others I can help you with. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 21:26, 20 February 2017 (EST)

Should Shroom Images Be Considered Bot Uploads?

Should images for The Shroom be considered bot uploads, even though technically it wouldn't be bot uploading? Currently, this can make Special:NewFiles kind of challenging to sort through whenever such images are getting uploaded. We can talk to Porplemontage (talk) and other shroom writers to see what we can work out. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 01:10, 19 February 2017 (EST)

I'm not sure whether that would be possible to implement. And I don't think it's very necessary: I doubt the uploads for The 'Shroom fill much more than half a page of the recent changes. And it would be easier on the 'Shroom staff to be able to easily view what they've uploaded so far. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 04:26, 19 February 2017 (EST)
Future uploads could be done by using a bot account. All that Porplemontage (talk) would need to do is set the flag if you need to create a new account. A bot doesn't necessary have to use the account, or at least I don't think. I have used a bot before to puppeteer my account to finish off images in Category:Beta Images and put them in Category:Pre-release and unused content images. I think the inverse can be true. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 04:55, 20 February 2017 (EST)

Make An Edit


I wanted to make an edit to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, but I can't edit it (I assume because I'm obviously a new member), so maybe you can do it for me? :)

I recently found a discovery with the game watching this video on YouTube. At the very end of the video, you can see the racer getting inked by the Blooper after finishing the race, which is a change from Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U. On the Wii U version, when a Blooper is about to ink a racer as they cross the finish line to finish the race, the blooper just disappears instead. Rjlefty96 (talk) 04:00, 19 February 2017 (EST)

Awesome! Thanks!! Rjlefty96 (talk) 14:58, 19 February 2017 (EST)

Look here

Look I am retired now and I am sorry. I understand now what this means. i promise to do this no longer. User:Mario Kart 7 Rules (talk edits) 19:38, 20 February 2017 (EST)

Okay. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 21:17, 20 February 2017 (EST)

VBWL Sprites

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I don't know if it is a good idea to have sprites in grayscale like the Game Boy Pocket or something because the only colors that we will officially see them in are in that color pallet. Category:Virtual Boy Wario Land Images --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 22:16, 20 February 2017 (EST)

For the time being, the sprites are easier to produce in greyscale. Once I have the bulk of the work sorted, then I could begin to recolor the sprites in their native red colors. I'm not sure at this stage whether we want to completely re-upload over the greyscale, or provide both versions... Most likely the former. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 22:21, 20 February 2017 (EST)
I think having both versions would be more trouble than it's worth. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 23:04, 20 February 2017 (EST)
Agreed. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 23:07, 20 February 2017 (EST)

Possible Duplicates and Prevention

I noticed you uploaded a new version File:PYWW Art - Poochy Pup.png and it produced a larger duplicate. I just updated Poochy-Pup to include the missing artwork and updated File:P&YWW - PoochyPup3.png with your upload.

--Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 16:05, 22 February 2017 (EST)

Thanks for noticing that! 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 03:58, 23 February 2017 (EST)


In reference to the bestiaries, didn't you at one point say something against including "related" in the bestiaries?--EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 10:49, 23 February 2017 (EST)

I think I did, but I don't remember my reasoning. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 20:16, 23 February 2017 (EST)
Here. - A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 01:04, 24 February 2017 (EST)

Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games page reminder

I'm talking about the disambiguation page, not the Wii or DS pages. An IP re-added previously removed information. The page covers the Vancouver games only, not the Sochi ones. Yet the IP re-added the Sochi game and an unofficial, unannounced one again, even after the edit summaries said not to. Should the page be protected to prevent this from happening again? – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 10:29, 27 February 2017 (EST)

Thanks for bringing this up, the page has now been protected. And since the edits seem spread over the months, I've protected the page for a good three months. If it happens after that, it can just be protected indefinitely. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 06:03, 28 February 2017 (EST)
OK. Glad to hear it! – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 10:17, 28 February 2017 (EST)

Message deletion

Are rules 1-a and 2-d on my talk page valid? I'm pretty sure it's legal to delete flamey messages, but is it legal to edit out swearing or any of my personal info? (For example, if someone referred to me by my real name).
Ultimate Mr L sig.png Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 21:33, 22 March 2017 (EDT)

Hi, very sorry about the delay in responding. Accordance with MarioWiki:Userspace allows you to create any reasonable "house rules" for your talk page. Generally, content shouldn't be altered/removed unless it's plain vandalism/flaming. But as long as you're clearly stating that any swearing/yelling/personal info is unwanted, then you should be entitled to remove any intruding content. I hope this answers your question. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 08:35, 25 March 2017 (EDT)
OK, thanks. And no worries about the delay. It's not like someone broke my rules and I needed to know right away, I just wanted to make sure before someone did.
Ultimate Mr L sig.png Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 10:28, 25 March 2017 (EDT)

Could you go ahead and redo or fix up ALL of his edits on WarioWare: Twisted articles. They all use the word "you" and some of them may not be entirely accurate. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 16:36, 31 March 2017 (EDT)

...Looks like Alex95 beat you to it. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 18:58, 31 March 2017 (EDT)
Oh, I didn't even notice this! I just saw something was wrong and corrected it. ...Well, that's one less job you have to do, Shokora. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 19:02, 31 March 2017 (EDT)
I'm feeling so productive :) 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 19:16, 31 March 2017 (EDT)

Crime Bandicoot

I noticed something unusual about the Super Mario Wiki. It says, "Crash Bandicoot Wiki". This should be facts about MARIO, not BANDICOOT. So anyway, can you please convince GlowSquid to change the wiki stuff back to the way it was before? Thanks!

User talk:Madbird83 10:05, 1 April 2017 (EDT)

Shokora explains it here. :P --FlameChompNSMBW.pngTheFlameChomp (talk) 10:14, 1 April 2017 (EDT)

Re:About special commemorations on the wiki

Hi, I noticed that Glowsquid (talk) changed the wiki's layout in favor of the Crash Bandicoot series. If Glowsquid doesn't beat you to it (I messaged him too), could you please leave a message on Template:Announcement saying something like "this wiki is honoring Crash Bandicoot this month" so that new readers will understand what's going on? From what I remember from the page history, that kind of message was made when the wiki honored Luigi in December 2013. MLPJToadetteWink.gif ToadettetheAchiever 19:54, 1 April 2017 (EDT)

Looks like Glowsquid beat you to it! MLPJToadetteWink.gif ToadettetheAchiever 20:10, 1 April 2017 (EDT)


Hi. My proposal to merge Shadow Character and False Character passed. However, I have never merged articles before. Do I just copy-and-paste the info into a new section and convert the merged article into a redirect? (Probably not the redirect, since the name is conjecture).
Ultimate Mr L sig.png Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 16:11, 2 April 2017 (EDT)

Hello. Yes, that's exactly what you should do. Just tag the "shadow character" page for deletion after you've merged them and updated all the links. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 18:29, 2 April 2017 (EDT)
Done. Page has been tagged for deletion.
Ultimate Mr L sig.png Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 20:30, 2 April 2017 (EDT)

New archive

Hi, could you please add a link to MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 47 on MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive Header? Thanks! MLPJToadetteWink.gif ToadettetheAchiever 20:14, 5 April 2017 (EDT)

Looks like Glowsquid beat me to it, again =) 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 08:19, 6 April 2017 (EDT)

Edit Counts - Perspective

If it makes you feel any better, you have more main namespace edits than I do and your writing skills are way better than mine. Most of the time, when I edit the main namespace, it's for tweaks (recently, replacing {{niwa}} with {{NIWA}}) or embedding images. Sometimes I have new information or I feel confident enough that something can be worded better. My thing is file namespace, if you couldn't tell already. :P --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 16:41, 6 April 2017 (EDT)

I had a hunch that you liked files, not sure what gave me that impression ;) 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 17:04, 6 April 2017 (EDT)

RE: Image glitch

I knew I forgot to do something. I had a similar thing happen with File:GangplankGalleyL465.PNG but corrected that before upload. There were just so many poor Donkey Kong Land 2 images that I was rushing them for replacement. At the time, I had a good rhythm going as the other image I referenced I hadn't quite developed it yet. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 14:19, 15 April 2017 (EDT)

super mario run

hi im a new member i just joined yesterday and ive been editing a lot. i was looking through pages and noticed super mario run has a list of levels and info about them yet a little less then half have a link to a nonexistent page. idk how to create a page and was wondering if you could help.
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Not A Duplicate Revision

File:Making Koin Glitch.png, I didn't upload a duplicate revision. That was intentional. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 01:25, 25 April 2017 (EDT)

Okay, but why? The older version can't be displayed on an article. Do you intend to upload it separately? 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 01:37, 25 April 2017 (EDT)
I've done this sort of thing in the past where I am conflicted which image is better for demonstrating the subject. I don't want to upload a separate image because of how similar the images are, so I just have the image in reserve. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 01:47, 25 April 2017 (EDT)

Old Template: Delete or Tag With {{abandoned}}?

Someone over at MarioWiki:Proposals pointed out a very old template:


This is a largely unused template because HTML5 allows for play of files originally requiring the plugin referenced by the template. I think that MediaWiki was updated some time ago to utilize this new standard so our OGG, OGA, and OGV files can be played without installing any plugins or using Java. Most web browsers today are HTML5-compliant. The question is should the old template be deleted or be tagged with {{abandoned}}? Personally, I never used the Java plugin because I just used an external program capable of decoding those files because MediaWiki gives me the option to download the file if there is an error, such as VLC Media Player or K-Lite Codec Pack. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 21:18, 25 April 2017 (EDT)

Sorry for the slight delay in getting to this. The template is not being linked to anywhere important, so there's little use keeping it. It's now been deleted. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 09:13, 28 April 2017 (EDT)

what does 2046192 x 3091749 make???


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Mario Sports Superstars screenshots

Thanks! The vast majority of Mario Sports Superstars screenshots are indeed captures from me, and that includes many of the croppings like the emblems, character icons, and the digital cards. BabyLuigiFire.png(T|C) 13:57, 27 April 2017 (EDT)

You should try 3DS Homebrew some time by using HANS. Just look at Category:Yoshi's New Island Images or Category:Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Images. Most latest version screenshots are by me. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 14:38, 27 April 2017 (EDT)
What is the latest version that supports the "homebrew" and HANS techniques? My 3DS original is version 11.2.0-35E, is it possible? 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 03:36, 28 April 2017 (EDT)
Here is a guide for this. Your version is actually supported, so you could get started on this. BabyLuigiFire.png(T|C) 14:15, 28 April 2017 (EDT)
As for LeftyGreenMario, she's doing very fine. She's at RationalWiki and spending her time making Left 4 Dead 2 mods and Garry's Mod mods. Also spending time drawing and making 3D models. She still talks to me about wiki stuff and has even asked me to continue working on Mario and Luigi for featured articles (even though I kinda am busy and those articles are a giant hulking thing to tackle). BabyLuigiFire.png(T|C) 14:17, 28 April 2017 (EDT)
Argh, I don't know if it's safe to use other regions or if Australia isn't supported yet. I'm betting that it's not supported yet, so that's very very unfortunate. BabyLuigiFire.png(T|C) 20:43, 28 April 2017 (EDT)

Help Page Protection

Can you protect Help:Preferences and Help:Chat? Help:Preferences used to be protected, but it was moved and only the redirect is protected, and Help:Chat is only semi-protected. --FlameChompNSMBW.pngTheFlameChomp (talk) 20:00, 28 April 2017 (EDT)

I've protected the preferences page. But the chat page should be left semi-protected, because not all of the chat staff are administrators. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 21:09, 28 April 2017 (EDT)
Thanks! I had a feeling that the semi-protection may have been intentional, but I decided to ask since all of others were fully protected. --FlameChompNSMBW.pngTheFlameChomp (talk) 21:17, 28 April 2017 (EDT)

Categorized Media Files

I noticed you are progressively working on List of audio samples used in Mario games (future article). Interesting notes. Anyways, I just got done categorizing all audio and video files in Category:Fair use video samples and Category:Fair use music samples, in Category:Media by game. Any future uploads you have for your WIP, categorize the media, like we do with images (Category:Images by game). If a category doesn't exist for a game (likely doesn't at this point), just create the missing category when new media gets uploaded (like Category:Mario Party 8 Media Files). --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 05:25, 29 April 2017 (EDT)

Yoshi the SSM

I want to keep my original name, but having Yoshi the SSM will be better when I vote in proposals. I am asking here, since my Mario Boards account is Yoshi the SSM as well. Yoshissm-animated walk.gif Yoshi the SSM (talk) 11:38, 2 May 2017 (EDT)

No problem. Just post it at MarioWiki:Changing username, so there's a clear record. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 22:31, 2 May 2017 (EDT)

Moving Help

My proposal passed and I need to move a bunch of files. That isn't a problem, because I can get Pywikibot on it, but that's going to leave ~1,000 redirects with my current abilities (can't skip leaving a redirect). To ease needing to {{delete}} each and every redirect, I need an additional privilege to move pages without leaving a redirect. Additionally, I detected non-article pages using these files too, such as two help pages and other locations I can't edit. Will you help me with this somehow? --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 23:20, 2 May 2017 (EDT)

The efficiency of this transition, most of the heavy lifting will be performed by editing {{media table}} and linked templates, which has already been done. That's because the template handles the extension of the file, for reasons I don't know why it was set up that way, but it was helpful in the longrun, for this case. Another heavy lifter is Pywikibot, which you can see my moves. There are several pages, not just articles (see User talk:Porplemontage#Move Help), using a hard link ([[File:Peachs Birthday Cake.ogg]] for Peach's Birthday Cake), which can also be spotted and edited by the bot. During the 1-week period of voting, I ran the bot to see what articles were using the hard link. I made appropriate changes. The remaining pages are just hard linking to audio files. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:50, 3 May 2017 (EDT)

Oh, and you are going to need to modify your WIP. The files are all *.oga being moved from *.ogg. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 23:34, 3 May 2017 (EDT)

Will do. Thanks. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 23:44, 3 May 2017 (EDT)
I mean your files are showing up in Special:UnusedFiles. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 14:03, 4 May 2017 (EDT)
Thanks for taking care of that. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 18:46, 6 May 2017 (EDT)


Hi! Since you have my friend box now, I would like to ask if you have any friend box that I can put on my userpage. I have seen people with YoshiKong friend boxes, but I didn't know if you had made a Shokora friend box. :) --FlameChompNSMBW.pngTheFlameChomp (talk) 11:12, 13 May 2017 (EDT)

Here, this will do! 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 19:25, 13 May 2017 (EDT)
Thanks! :) --FlameChompNSMBW.pngTheFlameChomp (talk) 20:41, 13 May 2017 (EDT)

Spray Fish

For the 'Shroom Spotlight, would this image work for a Yoshi's Woolly World Spray Fish, or should we get a picture that focuses more on the Spray Fish? --FlameChompNSMBW.pngTheFlameChomp (talk) 08:40, 22 May 2017 (EDT)

That full screenshot is fine. But it's also acceptable to crop the section showing the Spray Fish if you were to use it as an infobox image. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 18:48, 22 May 2017 (EDT)
Ok, thanks! I only planned to put it in the gallery on the page, so I don't think cropping is necessary. --FlameChompNSMBW.pngTheFlameChomp (talk) 18:53, 22 May 2017 (EDT)
Awesome :) 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 18:59, 22 May 2017 (EDT)

I have more good news about that page: I happened to come across this image on the Wiki while searching for Yoshi's New Island images, and, due to that, was able to mark that page as completed. --FlameChompNSMBW.pngTheFlameChomp (talk) 21:01, 22 May 2017 (EDT)


Not sure why, but it didn't occur to me to send a friend request to you 'till I saw your friend box on Alex95's page. So, wanna be friends?
Luigi 64DD.png(talk·edits) 21:24, 29 May 2017 (EDT)

Sure. I just added yours. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 21:52, 29 May 2017 (EDT)
You mean, people actually look at my userpage? Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 22:00, 29 May 2017 (EDT)
Thanks, Shokora! And yes, Alex, people look at your userpage sometimes. :P
Luigi 64DD.png(talk·edits) 16:45, 1 June 2017 (EDT)

Regarding Artwork

I am wondering on how the staff were able to find high resolution artwork from many games. For example, how were they able to find that Daisy artwork from Mario Golf: World Tour? --LouisofGrassLand (talk) 01:14, 23 June 2017 (EDT)

Hi there. Many of the high-quality artwork from newer games you see here on the wiki are coming directly from Nintendo's press sources. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 01:16, 23 June 2017 (EDT)

Such as? --LouisofGrassLand (talk) 01:25, 23 June 2017 (EDT)

Such as the widely available E3 Nintendo press kit. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 01:30, 23 June 2017 (EDT)

Name Change

I requested a name change a few days ago, but it hasn't been accepted or denied. I don't think it has been seen, so that is why I informed you.

My apologies for overlooking that! Your name's been changed now. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 21:52, 23 June 2017 (EDT)

RE: Good news

I can see...your uploads. :P Keep going! --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 00:45, 24 June 2017 (EDT)

SMO Media

I get that we don't have the games to upload the audio, but wouldn't it make sense to keep the template there as a reminder it needs to get done? --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 02:01, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

I'd rather it didn't. It would be like placing a stub template on a game that was only just announced: there's little users can do at this time to make improvements. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 05:02, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
Well, that's why we have {{new subject}} and {{upcoming}} because they behave like {{stub}} of a very specific case. Creating a template for just the media of such a game seems wasteful. Thought leaving {{more media}} there would be a good idea. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:48, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

I'm still wondering if it is OK to put the template back, but under the intention of it being a reminder more-so than something to upload ASAP. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 18:02, 1 July 2017 (EDT)

No. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 19:58, 1 July 2017 (EDT)

Stupid and fool in Luigi's Mansion

Talk about stupid!

I am not afraid of you, fool!

Music Video 123 (talk) 22:33, 27 June 2017 (EDT)


Why, thank you! I'm determined to only take original screen captures and assort each enemy or object with a fitting background. It's all thanks to the sheer variety of this terrific game. I too think they look good, but do you think they take up too much space? -- -- ByeGuy1.png ByeGuy.png ByeGuy2.png

I actually thought the images might be too big, compared to the ones in other DKC articles, but now I don't think that's a problem (the images from older games are at their actual size, anyway). Afterall, images should be big and visible, not to mention that, in this case, they also reflect the immensity of the game! (Again, compared to other DKC games.) But I shrunk down the Flying Banana (heh) several pixels. In the end, do you think the article could rise to the quality of other DKC articles? Because I most certainly think so. -- -- ByeGuy1.png ByeGuy.png ByeGuy2.png

Re:Sand storm

The SMW manual is online, and I happen to own the SMA2 manual. They both roughly say the same thing. From the SMA2 manul: "If Yoshi has a yellow shell in his mouth, he'll form sand clouds every time he jumps onto the ground. These sand clouds will topple enemies." Hello, I'm Time Turner. 22:22, 4 July 2017 (EDT)

Shokora, what? CityOfSilver (talk) 19:18, 5 July 2017 (EDT)

Audio on Level Pages

There has been a great deal of confusion about linking audio files on level pages, between my and Time Turner (talk)'s talk pages. He says you don't want users to link to them if the audio track is not unique to the level page. I'd argue that linking an audio file on multiple level pages would provide two benefits:

  • Bring more awareness to audio files being sought and being supported by the wiki/browser.
  • Gives information what music plays during a level.

What do you think? --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 23:39, 12 July 2017 (EDT)

Yeah, that seems completely fine. =) 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 23:48, 12 July 2017 (EDT)

Wario Land Completion

Hello, I noticed you have been expanding the VBWL pages greatly, I've been trying something similar with WL3 myself. One thing I am wondering, though, is whether the "barge" attack that keeps being mentioned is the same as the Dash Attack. --Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:08, 13 July 2017 (CT)

Thanks! And the Barge attack could be merged with Dash Attack, because they are indeed very similar. Just leave the Barge links red as they are for now, so I remember to get that information properly covered. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 20:40, 13 July 2017 (EDT)

Re: Mummy Guy

I don't think a screenshot is necessary, but posting the actual filepath is a good idea. I can't check right now, but when I can I'll post the path. Luckily I also found the name in a press release, and I'll add that now. --Hiccup (talk) 08:30, 17 July 2017 (EDT)

Or did you mean a screenshot to prove to you that the filenames are the way I say they are? I'll hopefully be able to post that soon. --Hiccup (talk) 12:55, 17 July 2017 (EDT)
Here is a screenshot. Adding the filenames to the references now. --Hiccup (talk) 04:47, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
I've added the full paths. :) --Hiccup (talk) 05:17, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
Depends what system :P --Hiccup (talk) 10:31, 20 July 2017 (EDT)
Those are more difficult, as they don't have standard filesystems. Its really a matter of exploring the ROM with a hex editor or graphics editor/viewer. Hxd is a good hex editor and you can find many romhacking tools here --Hiccup (talk) 06:11, 21 July 2017 (EDT)

Re: Hex editor

Some games will have filenames or names for other purposes. Try GBA text hacking tools, a hex editor or a the unix utility "strings" to find those. You can use "strings -eS" to look for Shift-JIS (which is a Japanese character encoding) strings too (or something like that). Also, on a related note - you may want to contact Nintendo customer services regarding official names. They may be to help with that - they did with someone on the forums a while ago. --Hiccup (talk) 12:47, 21 July 2017 (EDT)


Since Wixbly's only contributions are spam links to a shady site with the same name as their account, shouldn't they be immediately banned as per the policy for accounts created solely to advertise? Hopefully this doesn't count as undermining admin authority or anything, I just wasn't sure if anyone else noticed this. Niiue (talk) 21:17, 27 July 2017 (EDT)

Hey there. You're right, he should've been blocked right away. Mario JC since took care of it. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 06:55, 28 July 2017 (EDT)

Idle Chatter

How's it going, buddy? I hope your life is fine and good. Lcrossmk8 (talk) 00:17, 30 July 2017 (EDT)

Bot usergroup?

I don't think that will be necessary yet because I am hiding my edits and only 11 edits were made since Porplemontage (talk) gave me the OK to perform the edits. I understand the concern, but no vandals have been spotted. Since my edits are going to consist of files mainly, just select files namespace and Rawsigcheckbox.pngInvert selection. I know that won't help you spot vandal edits for files, but those kind of edits aren't nearly as common as main article vandalizing. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 20:25, 30 July 2017 (EDT)

Purple Pipe

I was wondering if you knew anything about the "Purple Pipe" in Wario Land 4. It's a redirect now to Warp Pipe, but since a few articles still link to "Purple Pipe", I was wondering if it was an official name. At the very least, if it was official, it could be noted on the Warp Pipe page. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 11:21, 3 August 2017 (EDT)

I think I made up that name a long time ago. Nintendo Power Advance seems to just call them "pipes". 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 22:23, 3 August 2017 (EDT)

Wario Land 3 Japanese enemy names

I was wondering, can you read this [1]? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:21, 3 August 2017 (CT)

Sorry, I can't read Japanese! 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 22:25, 3 August 2017 (EDT)

Image revision deletion

If you still feel like doing this, File:Mgmetalmario.png has some revisions that could be deleted. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 15:23, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

Done, thanks! 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 19:42, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

File:KamekNSMBW.png --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:31, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

File:Flag of Japan.png and File:Flag of USA.png --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 00:09, 2 September 2017 (EDT)

File:MegaDragonBowserTT.png also has a few that could be deleted. --FlameChompNSMBW.pngTheFlameChomp (talk) 07:21, 12 September 2017 (EDT)


Unless something's changed recently, some users came to the conclusion that it was Seaside, not Spaside. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 23:04, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

SVG Resizing

There is no need to resize the SVGs themselves because they don't contain any pixel data, but rather a list of shapes in an XML-based file. They look good no matter how big or small they get from their default defined size. What is changing are shape parameters in the SVG when you resize the SVGs themselves.
From 159×80 and applying 500px and 25px:
500px 25px --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 00:09, 3 September 2017 (EDT)

I know. But I just like to have the image shown on the file page as a small manageable image. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 00:31, 3 September 2017 (EDT)
The maximum size before MediaWiki starts to reduce the dimensions on each file page is 800x450, or something like that (example, File:Flag of UK.png is 1200x600, and the preview is being reduced to 800x400). --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 03:44, 3 September 2017 (EDT)
Help me understand what you mean. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 04:38, 6 September 2017 (EDT)
Sorry, I think you're right. Would you like to finish off uploading the SVGs? 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 07:34, 6 September 2017 (EDT)

Mario's Time Machine

I graciously accept your congratulations and especially your condolences.

Especially considering I have Mario is Missing booted up... Hello, I'm Time Turner. 22:11, 10 September 2017 (EDT)

"Rough and Unofficial"

What might one be able to do to avoid "rough" work with image transparency? I haven't found anything useful in the directory to answer that. Does Super Mario Wiki simply not permit unofficial transparency work? Pakkun (talk) 10:29, 23 September 2017 (EDT)

Transparency on the Odyssey stickers

I don't think that the stickers from Super Mario Odyssey have that transparency. I found the official ones and some white spaces are missing. Nintandi (talk) 11:56, 27 September 2017 (EDT)

Hi there. Yes, I understand. I'm not the one that added the transparency - Somebody else did after I uploaded it. I'll revert the images to the non-transparent version soon. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 20:01, 27 September 2017 (EDT)
Ok. Also, they have a lower resolution than the original (the original have an official transparency also). Nintandi (talk) 20:41, 27 September 2017 (EDT)
Interesting. Where are you finding the official versions? 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 21:20, 27 September 2017 (EDT)
Well, I think they are official but they are on the nintendo wiki Nintandi (talk) 07:08, 28 September 2017 (EDT)

Super Mario Run Images

Hey Shokora. 8:05 PM Sep 29th 2017 DryBowzillaJP

Yo. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 20:11, 29 September 2017 (EDT)

Should we data mine the images? Also what happen to the one I uploaded? 8:12 PM Sep 29th 2017 DryBowzillaJP

Lake Kingdom card

Does this mean that one image in the gallery that keeps getting its description changed can be changed to Lake Kingdom?Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 04:14, 6 October 2017 (EDT)

You mean this? I'd be find to have it as an unnamed/unidentified kingdom. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 04:20, 6 October 2017 (EDT)
Then could you do that? Since you're a bureaucrat, they're less likely to knee-jerk revert with you... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 04:26, 6 October 2017 (EDT)

School of Fish

Pardon, but wouldn't it be better to keep the talk page for School of Fish? It seems to have dicussed deleting the page, and keeping it there would explain to new users why it was deleted. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 23:45, 12 October 2017 (EDT)

It didn't seem important enough to keep as reference, as it was only a minor page and users would be unlikely to find it. But I've restored it as you've asked. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 00:53, 13 October 2017 (EDT)
Minor or not, if someone made the page in the first place, it's not unlikely that someone might want to make it again the future. That's just my two cents, though. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 12:05, 13 October 2017 (EDT)

Scarily Late Warning

Artwork - WARP PIPE (Simple).svg Hi, Shokora! Artwork - WARP PIPE (Simple).svg
This is your cue to get your sections done and sent to me through our forums by October 20. If you can't make the deadline and you have a valid reason for doing so, get in touch with me as soon as you can and we'll work it out.

Also, be careful to keep a copy of your work saved with you, either on your forum outbox or saved to your own devices. If you need to know anything else, hit me up! I'll try and answer any question you have.

Yoshi876 (talk)


May I move the page Metalhead to Metal-Head? I think it's better suited among other names from VBWL, which are "binomial" and separated by a dash. -- -- ByeGuy1.png ByeGuy.png ByeGuy2.png 13:58, 27 October 2017 (EDT)

That sounds fine. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 00:56, 31 October 2017 (EDT)


Hey, I saw your message and I wanted to say, no problem! I'm happy that you appreciate my little work! (also, I don't know how to reply to a message so I just posted this here) Hugman (talk) 08:56, 8 November 2017 (EST)

So many file uploads

File:Big Bandit.png - Perhaps delete every instance of the fake pose. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 15:21, 8 November 2017 (EST)

On top of that one:
 :) Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 22:43, 16 December 2017 (EST)

Blocked User Has Six Personal Images

MarioWiki:Personal Images, TrickyMario7654 (talk) has six personal images, but he is blocked indefinitely, so does that mean all personal images should be removed instead of two random ones? Should the policy page reflect this or should the four images stay? MarioWiki:Blocking policy doesn't seem to have procedures either. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 03:35, 11 November 2017 (EST)

Hi. I don't think we routinely delete a user's personal images just because they're blocked, and the same goes for userpages. But in this case, I don't think anyone is going to miss the images, so I just deleted all of them rather than choosing two to keep to the limit. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 18:17, 11 November 2017 (EST)
It's such an odd case, but if left unchecked for every unquestionable permaban (there have been instances where a sysop felt uneasy with a permaban), any remaining personal images could pile up. Maybe it should be reconsidered what rules to follow and allow how much time to pass between the ban and deletion of permabanned members? --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 08:49, 12 November 2017 (EST)

Somewhat related:

LuigiFan101 (talk) hasn't contributed to the wiki in over seven years. Should {{personal-image-warning}} be skipped and delete a random image? I found this user as I was categorizing The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 episode images. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 08:49, 12 November 2017 (EST)

That image of Mario's doohicky

A while back, someone posted a link to a site detailing that very image in a talk page, and that talk page was deleted and that person reprimanded. I figured, as such, posting it here would be equally offensive, if not moreso, as a matter of course. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:52, 13 November 2017 (EST)

Proposal talky thing

I had already stopped and decided to ask a patroller what he felt of that situation and whether any and all behavior there was acceptable. However, he hasn't come online yet. In the interrim, Niiue gave Howzit a reminder.

Been meaning to ask you this, are you planning on ripping any more of the VBWL sprites, or have you finished for the foreseeable future? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 07:18, 17 November 2017 (EST)

Okay, thank you.
Those sprites are ripped frame-by-frame, so they take a long time. I am on holiday break now, so I'd like to devote more time to that project (there are plenty more enemies/bosses to rip).
'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 07:24, 17 November 2017 (EST)


Who is Yoshi.noir? Did they make this SMO Art - Regional Coin (Luncheon).svg or find it?--EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 12:18, 21 November 2017 (EST)

They're from Nintendo Wiki. They found it. 'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 20:00, 24 November 2017 (EST)

Need Promotion to 'Shroomwriter

Hey, I joined the 'Shroom Strategy Wing in Issue 128, but I am currently not able to edit the 'Shroom. Do you mind adding me to the 'shroomwriters list? I actually asked Glowsquid (talk) about this last week, but he's been mostly inactive since then.... -YFJ (talk · edits) 03:55, 27 November 2017 (EST)

is done. --Glowsquid (talk) 10:36, 27 November 2017 (EST)

Question about possible pre-release and unused content images

I was looking through all the images for Super Mario 3D World for low-quality screenshots to replace and found these images:

I could easily replace them, but I noticed that they were uploaded before the game's release. These images don't have descriptions suggesting that they contain pre-release/unused content, but some images uploaded with these do contain it, as seen in Gallery:Super Mario 3D World#Screenshots. Do you think I should leave these or replace them? --Super Mario Fan 67 (TCS) 10:40, 20 December 2017 (EST)

I speak from experience. What makes this harder is the images linked don't have a source where it was obtained. In general, Super Mario Wiki users tend to upload first, ask questions later. I feel that image uploads for upcoming games should be more restrictive, but only until release. Then normal uploading can resume. Why? Sudden influx of images get uploaded and things get harder to coordinate and track otherwise. Bulbapedia has a decent idea for a policy, especially with the recent release of Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, but they tend to take it too far and lock the entire wiki, which isn't fair for those looking to improve older articles. I did find Machop At Work has a bad image that I can't tag with {{bad picture}}, but that is beyond the scope of this wiki. It's just an example of how far not to take this idea I had. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 10:53, 20 December 2017 (EST)