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Blurry images

Images on this wiki are showing up really blurry and pixelated to me, as if they're all really bad JPG images, but just the thumbnails. Why is this happening? It's been like this for many months now. Shadow2 (talk) 23:49, 1 December 2018 (EST)

They look fine on my end (and they are JPGs, anyway). Are you zoomed in or out? Sometimes that causes images to appear jagged. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 00:24, 2 December 2018 (EST)
That's what I thought at first, but I'm not. I tried zooming in and out a bunch and nothing changed, but to confirm they are blurred when I'm at 100% zoom. Shadow2 (talk) 06:20, 3 December 2018 (EST)

Add a New Pages template to the main page

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do not add 0-3-0-9
There is one thing that everyone sees when they enter the MarioWiki: The main page. The page is organized and includes trivia, the best articles on the site, news etc. However, under the Did You Know? template there is a large amount of empty space, a perfect place for a new template. The template that I am proposing is a template that, whenever a new page is created, the template will be updated containing a short 1-3 sentence paragraph summarizing the start of the page, preferably took directly from the page. The template would be called New Pages. This idea was approved by Porplemontage. This template would be a auto-comfimed only regularly updated template like the {{News}} template where, whenever a new page is published, a brief summery with a link to the article will be added as the top bullet, as shown above. The rules of this template would be the following:

  • When a new page is published, a brief 1-3 sentence paragraph summarizing the start of the page, preferably took directly from the start of the page, will be used as a bullet point on the template. (Model A only) The page's main image will be pictured in a maximum 150px image.
  • (Model A only) Even if the latest page does not have an image at the time of release, Model A will still only have one bullet.
  • If an article is deemed too short or is badly written, then the article can be skipped.
  • The template has two bullets in Model B, one in Model A, and whenever a new page is published the article is mention on the first bullet on the top of the template, with the oldest page's bullet point being removed.
  • Every paragraph should end with the code: '''[[pagename|Read more...]]'''.
  • The page's name should be linked and bolded.

As mentioned in the rules, there is two models that could work, because, as mentioned by Porplemontage, there is only enough space for either one bullet and an image, or two bullets with no image. Here is an example of how both models would look like:

Model A:

Safe Buster

Safe Buster (pictured) is a dual-screen Game & Watch game that was originally released on January 6, 1988. It is featured as an unlockable minigame in Game & Watch Gallery 4. In the game, a character named the Wily Bomber is dropping bombs onto a safe in a bank, and the player as the bank guard must catch them in a container. Read more...

Model B:

  • Safe Buster (pictured) is a dual-screen Game & Watch game that was originally released on January 6, 1988. It is featured as an unlockable minigame in Game & Watch Gallery 4. In the game, a character named the Wily Bomber is dropping bombs onto a safe in a bank, and the player as the bank guard must catch them in a container. Read more...
  • Bomb Sweeper is a dual-screen Game & Watch game that was originally released on June 15, 1987, and is featured as an unlockable minigame in Game & Watch Gallery 4. In the game, a policeman and a character named John Solver attempt to stop a character named Dynamite Jack, who plants bombs underground town. Read more...

In my opinion, Model B is better, as while images are nice, not all pages immediately has an image when created, and two bullets can encourage more activity improving new pages than with just a single bullet. Still, this template could not only fill in space on the Main Page, but it could also encourage the creation of pages and the improvement of said pages.

EDIT:Per Alex95's suggestion, {{Special:NewPages|limit=2}} could also work, although in my opinion having a 1-3 sentence paragraph would better help readers get interested with the page than just the edit log, however it is still a viable option, so adding {{Special:NewPages|limit=2}} as option C. (As this Model would update automatically none of the other rules apply) This Model would look like this:

Proposer: Doomhiker (talk)
Deadline: January 24, 2019 23:59 GMT

Add the Model A version of the New Pages template (One bullets and an image)

Add the Model B version of the New Pages template (Two bullets and an image)

  1. Niiue (talk) Per Doomhiker.
  2. FanOfYoshi (talk) Per all.
  3. GrainedCargo192 (talk) This might actually make it worth it to check out the main page.

#Doomhiker (talk) My preferred option, per proposal.

Add the ModelC version of the New Pagestemplate ({{Special:NewPages|limit=2}})

Oppose (Do not add a New Pages template in any capacity)

  1. Waluigi Time (talk) I'm not entirely keen on the idea of a trivial feature constantly being edited while we're trying to cover newly released games.
  2. Toadette the Achiever (talk) It just seems like too much trouble to implement.
  3. 7feetunder (talk) Per Bazooka Mario's comment below. Too much effort for too little gain. If we really wanted to fill out that empty space, we could just make the "Mario & Nintendo News" section longer or something.
  4. Yoshi the SSM (talk) Per 7feetunder. Plus, this only benefits desktop viewers, but not mobile viewers (since it would add to the list instead of equaling the other side). I like 7feetunder idea of how we could remove the added space, but we could either just extend a template (though, that still leaves space, but is part of the template too, and maybe not as preferred) or add something that viewers would be interested in (maybe something like the feature media from the DK wiki that is being merge (in the present) with this wiki). These two are just other two possibilities, but 7feetunder's option is both removes the space altogether and is easy to implement.
  5. Bazooka Mario (talk) I don't think it's needed nor does it provide much benefits for its price of extra maintenance.
  6. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) While the usefulness exists, it is quite slim, can be seen through a button that's already on the wiki, and isn't pretty by any means. The main page should at least look good.
  7. BBQ Turtle (talk) Per all, I think it'd be a bit too difficult to decide when to update, plus the space it would occupy drastically varies in size, at least on my laptop, depending on the length of the Did You Know? and Mario & Nintendo News sections- sometimes it has lots of space, and other times it goes below the 'Shroom box- if the News, Did You Know and this were all long, it wouldn't save space and may then create an issue of more empty space on the left.
  8. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per all. While it could have some usefulness, I feel that the extra maintenance would be an issue, along with the fact that the empty space is not the same across browsers.
  9. Doomhiker (talk) Per all.

Comments

Does it need the "Read more..." if the article is already linked to by name?
Also, hey, figured out something that could maybe also work :P

Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 15:32, 10 January 2019 (EST)

In my opinion having a 1-3 sentence paragraph would better help readers get interested with the page than just the edit log, and the reason that I added the "Read more..." so that if a user is new they may not know that blue=link so having an obvious link to the page would help attract new readers. Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 15:41, 10 January 2019 (EST)
I'm not sure having part of a behind-the-scenes log on the wiki's main page is a good idea, especially since users can type anything in the summary. Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 06:42, 11 January 2019 (EST)
I feel that using behind-the-scenes logs instead of summaries could end up being confusing for people who are just here to read, while also being way less descriptive. --A sprite of a Flame Chomp from New Super Mario Bros. Wii.TheFlameChomp (talk) 11:09, 11 January 2019 (EST)

So would this have to be updated every time a new page is created? What about when new games are released and articles are constantly being made for its content? --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 11:40, 11 January 2019 (EST)

@Waluigi Time it would have to be updated every time a new page is created, even when new games release. It would be the responsibility of the user who made the page, or another user if the user does not do so, to update the template. However, unlike the news and DYK template which require a large amount of effort to maintain, this template would really only need a copy-and-paste of the first few sentences of the page with extra code added and extremely minor adjustments. Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 14:22, 11 January 2019 (EST)
I personally do not think that updating it every single time a new page is created in situations such as that is necessary, as sometimes, multiple articles are created in a span of several minutes, and it does not seem necessary to have to update it every few minutes when it will quickly be updated again (especially if the user is unaware that they have to do it). --A sprite of a Flame Chomp from New Super Mario Bros. Wii.TheFlameChomp (talk) 16:29, 11 January 2019 (EST)
@TheFlameChomp I agree, and in one of the rules If an article is deemed too short or is badly written, then the article can be skipped. Perhaps I can modify that rule so it also includes Also, if a large amount of new pages are created in a short time span due to a new game or another major event, the updating of this template can be temporarily set aside until page creation is slowed down to a normal pace. Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 16:53, 11 January 2019 (EST)

This seems like a lot of maintenance and trouble (via new quality standards that prompts a new discussion) to go through for a small spot on the main page where only a fraction of readers will be pretty invested on. Unlike the other spots, this section isn't going to be updated on a schedule. It'll require constant watch on part of the recent changes. I really don't see the benefit for this for all this trouble aside from general aesthetics of the new page. I think there are other ways we can minimize empty space on the page; this appears to be just padding. Mario Green.pngBazooka Mario BadaBoom! 00:28, 15 January 2019 (EST)

Character article infobox discrepancies

Okay, this has been bugging me even more so now. On a certain character article on this wiki that I will not name here, I was kindly trying to tell the respective parties that in terms of appearances, it's in regards to the game installment that they first appeared in. But the other editor begs to differ and says it's in regards to their first/latest appearances overall. Can anyone clarify on this and confirm if the character article infoboxes are mainly in regards to game installments only? --M. C. - Profile | Talk Page 13:39, 9 February 2019 (EST)

The infoboxes first and latest appearance should be their first/latest appearances overall as those are their first/latest appearance, even if it is not in a game, although articles should also note a thing's first game appearance in an infobox. Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 13:46, 9 February 2019 (EST)

Easter Egg on the Super Mario Wiki discovered?

I found this a while ago, but decided to mention it today. If you go to the BJAODN section of the Super Mario Wiki, the wiki's logo will change to one that somewhat resembles Wikipedia's, except the logo includes Mario's eyes, nose, and mustache, the letters are replaced with Mario-themed stuff, and the text is written with the old Mario-style letters. See for yourself: https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:BJAODN

This easter egg also appears on every subpage of BJAODN (with the exception of those that feature an edited wiki that stars another character, as is the case of the April Fools 2017 and 2018 subpages) Speaking of April Fools, I believe that the April Fools subpages should have their own category, rather than being part of the Complete "articles", can someone do it if they agree with that? Gold Luigi (talk) 08:13, March 21, 2019 (EDT)

April Fouls Day logo change: Stinky Kong (aka Pink Donkey Kong Jr.) deserves nothing more than to be lacerated by Rambi

Just the facts. Get the hell off my screen, you abomination, and be replaced by Purple Captain Toad, who is so much more enjoyable. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:13, March 31, 2019 (EDT)

Bans Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 22:15, March 31, 2019 (EDT)
Prepares the Agent Orange Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:44, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
comes here uninvited Boo! I wanted a Bowsette Wiki, not this nonsence! Gold Luigi (talk) 13:59, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
Out or my signature, Stinky Kong! I'll have to wait tomorrow to remove it. --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 14:06, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
Bowsette sucks. BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 18:16, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
What about Weegee? Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 18:20, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
I'm just saying Waluigi is always a good option --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 18:49, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
Weegee is a funny punching bag in Super Smash Bros. Crusade but alas they removed him. BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 18:50, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
Weegee sucks, Fortran and Malleo were better. But Weegee's still better than Fortran's more-famous ripoff "Grand Dad," or those other two ripoffs. A ripoff of a ripoff. Bowsette was....OK-level-amusing at first, and that's the best I can say. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:27, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
Dark Star X, maybe? TheDarkStar (talk) 19:32, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
Our lord and savior.

Not as good as last years

This just felt like it took 5 minutes to make. It looks like pink gorilla crap. FireyYoshi (talk) 19:29, April 1, 2019 (EDT)FireyYoshi

ur face iz pink gawrilla crap BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 19:51, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
I may have only made the logo in, like, five minutes. But it's some of the finest piece of crap I created. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 19:54, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
Honestly, this was an amazing April fool's prank in my opinion. Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 19:55, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
It was pretty good... For next year, maybe Fawful could take over the wiki for a day. TheDarkStar (talk) 19:57, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
I should. BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 19:58, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
wait what TheDarkStar (talk) 19:58, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
:thinking: Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 19:59, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
To be perfectly fair, taking all factors into account....the logo is garbage and you should feel ashamed. Tosses an endless supply of particularly-stinky fish. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:34, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
I will additionally suggest not changing the colors of the ranks on the recent changes again, the bureaucrat green was near blinding. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:58, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
agreed Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 22:04, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
Agreed as well. The green melted my eyes and then tossed them in a dump heap. TheDarkStar (talk) 22:11, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
I hated it as well. BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 23:39, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
Yeah. Maybe next year, they could change all usernames to red, making it look like no-one has a userpage. That might be a nice prank for April Fool's 2020. TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 23:47, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
Yeah, I made the bureaucrat color too bright, that's my bad. I can't check how the colors look until the css page is saved, and I just didn't feel like making correction after correction, so I just went with it :P Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 00:16, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
You could get color values from GIMP or practically any image editor program so you have a general idea of it before you save the page. Ah well, just something to keep in mind in case it's needed again. BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 00:18, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
I got them from here, which looked perfectly fine to me. But I guess I'm not the best at picking colors ^^; (I don't know why a bureaucrat didn't just change it) Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 00:25, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
Concentration. A small amount in a pattern against a huge white background is going to make any super-bright color practically unbearable. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:42, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
I have to agree with FireyYoshi. This year's April Fools' joke definitely was weak, especially when compared to previous year's. Plus, it didn't show the "We Are Pink Donkey Kong Jr." logo (at least for me), it kept showing the regular "Super Mario Wiki" logo instead. Gold Luigi (talk) 14:02, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
Try hard refreshing (Ctrl+F5) next time. TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 14:20, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
Wow, this discussion has gone on a long time... TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 14:23, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
It feels especially weak to me, since I had my "Death to Pie" proposal planned nearly a whole year in advance. In fact, the only recent editions to it were adding Starlow and Kersti alongside Mr. Star Gate after I realized the extent of the bile that stupid yellow thing had amassed for herself. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:25, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
Yeah, Pink Donkey Kong Jr. probably wasn't the best April Fool's prank the wiki has seen, especially the eye-melting bureaucrat green. TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 14:27, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
As I said above, Dark Star X or Fawful might be good choices for April Fool's 2020. TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 14:50, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
I DO have the perfect choice for April Fools 2020, but I'd rather keep it a secret... OK, not really, how about we turn every Nintendo wiki into a 100% anime wiki for 2020, similar to how we turned them into a Sony wiki in 2017? We can put Astro Boy for Mario, Yokai Watch for Pokemon, etc. Gold Luigi (talk) 15:01, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
Good idea, but I will vehemently oppose that in favor of Dark Star X. TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 15:04, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
Forgot to mention that, the reason I want for my April Fools prank to come true in 2020, and ONLY in 2020, is because of the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games. Anime (and Astro Boy, the first anime ever) were both originated in Japan, right? And Tokyo is in Japan. So I came up with that. Gold Luigi (talk) 15:07, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
What about the inevitable 2020 release of a Super Mario Bros. platformer featuring a revived Dark Star? TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 15:25, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
I can even try my hand at rendering characters for an official style though I don't know how quickly that'd turn out to be fake... BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 15:27, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
If so, could you please do a Dark Star render for my userpage? TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 15:35, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
That's a lot of effort, not sure if I can undertake that. BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 15:46, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
OK, thanks! TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 18:03, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
This discussion is growing awfully long. Anyone know what we should do with it? TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 18:04, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
In the event another M&L game is announced, I move for Starlowiki. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:15, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
Darkstarlowiki? TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 18:17, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
If this is possible perhaps Porple could change the pop-up ads to just Starlow stating obvious facts such as "the Mario wiki has a Mario page". Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 18:21, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
Sounds reasonable. TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 19:38, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
Now that I think about it, did they inspire the Pink Donkey Kong Jr. wiki from an icon used in April Fools 2014? They included a Pink Donkey Kong Jr. in it in the "News" section. https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:BJAODN/April_Fool%27s_2014 Gold Luigi (talk) 08:05, April 3, 2019 (EDT)
I think so. TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 14:58, April 3, 2019 (EDT)

Uhhh...

Does the Pink DK Jr logo at the top need to be replaced since it's no longer April Fools? TheIceCream (talk) 10:07, April 2, 2019 (EDT)

It should. --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 10:09, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
It has been. Click File:Mariowiki.png and do a hard refresh. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 11:34, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
It hasn't. It still shows DK Jr. TheIceCream (talk) 14:50, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
Try Ctrl+F5. TheDarkStar Sprite of the Dark Star from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey 14:51, April 2, 2019 (EDT)
Ah yes. Cheers. TheIceCream (talk) 17:28, April 2, 2019 (EDT)

Nintendo's own browsers

For the last couple of weeks, I have been unable to access MarioWiki (and SmashWiki) from the 3DS and Wii U's browsers. Why? RickTommy (talk) 05:59, July 1, 2019 (EDT)

Well, it's not because Nintendo isn't allowing it specifically-the wiki isn't affiliated with Nintendo. JoeRunner (talk and stuff) 17:07, July 7, 2019 (EDT) 22:25, July 6, 2019 (EDT)
The same thing happened to me on my Wii U. Are you saying that Nintendo only allows websites affiliated with it? I'm confused. --DeepFriedCabbage 15:58, July 8, 2019 (EDT)
Oh, no. What I mean is that the reason that the wiki is not accessible is not because Nintendo blocked it specifically (judging by the discussion title, it looks like that's what Rick was asking about). JoeRunner (talk and stuff) 20:40, July 14, 2019 (EDT)
I'm not saying anything of the sort. The reason I chose that title was for the irony. Anyway, I asked this same question on the SmashWiki (see here) and got an answer that may help. RickTommy (talk) 20:22, July 21, 2019 (EDT)
Okay. Sorry about that, and I'm glad you found an answer. JoeRunner (talk and stuff) 15:12, August 7, 2019 (EDT)

Change my password

How do I change my password on my profile if I can't remember my current password? MarioLover54 12:26 PM 7/31/2019 (EST)

There should be a "reset password" option if you set an email address. If you didn't, you'll have to talk to Porplemontage (talk). -YFJ (talk · edits) 12:28, July 31, 2019 (EDT)

Loging in on NIWA

Can you sign in on Smashwiki when you only have a Mariowiki account? Mad Hunter (talk) 13:53, November 20, 2019 (EST)

Accounts between sites are not shared within NIWA. You have to make a new account on Smash Wiki. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 14:02, November 20, 2019 (EST)

Thanks! Mad Hunter (talk) 14:08, November 20, 2019 (EST)

Really?

This years April Fools joke is not good, are we running out of ideas? FireyYoshi (talk)

what joke, steve needs more money okay --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 10:24, April 1, 2020 (EDT)
We should have done a Sonic wiki. FireyYoshi (talk)
we don't have the budget for that. we need more money! --DeepFriedCabbage 13:16, April 1, 2020 (EDT)
"We've got to have... money!" - AwdryFan1997

New Paper Mario

A new Paper Mario game was just announced. Should we add that to Mario & Nintendo news MarioMorty (talk) 09:26, May 14, 2020 (EDT)

It's up, thanks for notifying. Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 10:25, May 14, 2020 (EDT)

Donkey Kong Country coming to Switch Online!

I think it's worth mentioning on the front page. User:DK Fan

Added. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 23:18, July 7, 2020 (EDT)

Random Question

How do you get the images in your usernames? everytime I try, it fails.. -- MarioMorty (talk) 13:17, July 18, 2020 (EDT)

[[File:Image.png|32px]], for example. For signatures, you should avoid using "thumb" or "frame". Learn more at MarioWiki:Signatures. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 13:29, July 18, 2020 (EDT)

I tried. Thanks for the help. --[[File:MK8 Morton Icon.png|32px]] MarioMorty (talk) 15:55, August 4, 2020 (EDT)

Link Template

Could I get a link to the template for links? (lol) I think outside links should open in new tabs,(e.g.) correct me if I'm wrong. I was going to propose to do this on the template, couldn't find it. I should know the code to accomplish this. Artwork of Mario, from Super Mario Odyssey. CappyThrow (Talk) 03:36, August 20, 2020 (EDT)

Why would people want to be forced to open a new tab? Before my recent browser cleanup, there was enough that any more would start hiding them due to space. Regardless, if anyone wants to open a new tab for whatever reason, they need only right-click. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:16, August 20, 2020 (EDT)
I usually open pages in a new tab. But I'm not sure what you mean, are you talking about MarioWiki:Links? Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 13:48, August 20, 2020 (EDT)

'Shroom?

Why does the main page advertise the 'Shroom... twice? There are two bars, one at the top and the other towards the middle. -Mags (talk) 15:47, August 23, 2020 (EDT)

Top one is MediaWiki:Sitenotice which is displayed across the wiki, middle is {{Announcement}} which is just displayed on the main page. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 16:12, August 23, 2020 (EDT)

Why does the search function suck?

I have noticed that the search function on MarioWiki really doesn't work very well. Or, at least, it doesn't function like most other sites' search functions and ends up usually not being helpful. For example, I searched for "Mario Party 3 Credits" once because at the time, I couldn't remember the exact title of the page. What are the results of this search?

...etc, etc, just a long list of popular, or often visited, pages that just happen to contain "Mario" within them somewhere. This doesn't help at all. I find that nine times out of ten, the pages for Mario, Luigi, DK and for some reason "List of Items" will always be at the top of the search results. So, what's wrong with it? Shadow2 (talk) 06:18, September 10, 2020 (EDT)

Well, the credits page does not actually have the word "credits" anywhere in the page. So that will definitely play a part in search never bringing that up. List of Mario Party 3 staff. Little Mouser.PNGPaper Jorge (Talk·Contribs)
When you search, the results will only list pages containing all the words in your search. To avoid the type of results you got, try searching "Mario Party 3" in quotes, without "credits" because that word isn't present (we use "staff"). You'll then see all pages containing Mario Party 3 in the title.
'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 07:08, September 10, 2020 (EDT)
I understand your points, but I still think there's something not quite right. I'm comparing this to search functions on other Wikis, including Wikipedia, and none of those wikis will always spit out the same list of articles if it can't find one with a matching title. On other wikis if you search for something it'll give you stuff that's at least a little close, but this wiki will always give me "Mario" "Luigi" "List of items" every single time. This gives the impression to the user (me) that the search function is broken. You go to the Zelda wiki or something, and "Link" doesn't show up at the top of every single possible search result. Shadow2 (talk) 19:46, September 10, 2020 (EDT)
What would be a good search function (to me) would be a thing that you could toggle in the settings. The thing that you could toggle would be acrually two things: The ability to search for just the phrase and not it jumbled up, and the ability to be able to search d and have articles that included d also as part of a word than just seperately. By the way, it was really hard to phrase this. --JumpPumpkinPlant SMW.pngDarkNightPiranha Plant in Fall 19:58, September 10, 2020 (EDT)

I get the feeling this happens with every wiki that is run by Porplemontage, including this one and the Kingdom Hearts wiki. Swallow's profile picture shown in NEO: The World Ends With You Swallow Rindo Kanade

More SNES Mario games coming to Switch Online!

They just announced that Donkey Kong Country 2 and Mario's Super Picross are on their way. DK Fan

Latest appearance: Super Mario 3D All-Stars

The game is now available for me to play which means the latest appearance can be updated. However, would this be the sort of thing we would update the latest appearance to for everything? Swallow's profile picture shown in NEO: The World Ends With You Swallow Rindo Kanade

Yes, everything that appears in 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 20:49, September 17, 2020 (EDT)

Citation format

Hey fellas, didn't know where to ask. We borrow a citation format from Wikipedia, but there is a huge discrepancy on the entire wiki on whether citations go after the period, or before the period. Wikipedia places the citations after the period. Our official MarioWiki:Citations page tells us to put it before the period. Most our articles have the citations after the period which is supposedly wrong (don't believe me? look up any major article, Mario, Yoshi, Bowser and just CTRL+F [1] [2]). Our sysops have been enforcing the citation before the period on new articles, as I've noticed Alex95 doing when I was writing the Steve (Minecraft) article. But it's causing a major discrepancy and I just wanted to bring it up. Personally, I think it should be after the period, it looks neater, but whatever is chosen, there is no standard right now. Little Mouser.PNGPaper Jorge (Talk·Contribs)

I agree with after. Same with commas --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 22:20, October 3, 2020 (EDT)

"Tap to display image"

Anyone on mobile view, are lots of images in pages covered with a message saying this until you actually tap the image? Is there a setting anywhere where all images will be displayed immediately? This doesn't apply to desktop view. Swallow's profile picture shown in NEO: The World Ends With You Swallow Rindo Kanade

Your outdated software may not have this, but the fix is to go to Settings -> Safari -> Advanced -> Experimental Features and enable "Intersection Observer" --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 09:09, October 29, 2020 (EDT)

App

Do we have an app. and if we don't please don't expect me to make it as I have no history in app design --MarioMorty (talk) 16:59, November 7, 2020 (EST)

Trivia

The trivia isn't even correct. Wario appears in Super Mario Land 2. Polterpup (talk) 20:55, November 22, 2020 (EST)

But he's not playable there. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 20:56, November 22, 2020 (EST)
Grammatically speaking, "appears and is playable" implies it is the only game he appears in. It should just say "is playable." Polterpup (talk) 15:58, November 23, 2020 (EST)
Fixed. --JumpPumpkinPlant SMW.pngDarkNightPiranha Plant in Fall 16:05, November 23, 2020 (EST)

Talk page archive template

I noticed that any talk pages with archive subpages have formatting that seem more suitable as a template (i.e. see Talk:Mario, Talk:Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, and so more). Is it doable to make this a template and is it recommended? Mario Green.pngBazooka Mario BadaBoom! 18:36, December 11, 2020 (EST)

Where I can help

I want to help, but I don't know where to start as I don't have much coding experience --MarioMorty (talk) 00:15, February 7, 2021 (EST)

Non-Japanese/English voice actors in infoboxes

I'm not sure if this was already discussed among the admins, but I think this should be discussed publicly. There was an anon adding names of voice actors for characters originating from other franchises such as Sonic in languages besides Japanese and English. My question is should we keep those or remove them. Personally, my concern about this practise is that it's not really that consistent with the rest of the wiki, with every other infobox listing English/Japanese actors only (which is possible could be the only voice actors), and I feel it clutters them a bit. Swallow's profile picture shown in NEO: The World Ends With You Swallow Rindo Kanade 19:49, February 9, 2021 (EST)

We talked about it on the admin and the discord and found the 3DS version of M&S 2016 does have dubbed voice clips for languages beside English and Japanese (specifically French, Spanish, German and Italian,), so the voice actor information warrants to be listed somewhere - for the characters that appear in that, game for those languages.

Now the following two thoughts (these are not admin teams concensus)

-For the sake of avoiding clutter, I feel infoboxes should only list the source language of a given media, and English. If the source language is English, then only that.
-Information about dubs beside English and Japanese should be mentioned somewhere. There's no reason to. My favoured approach would be in the "List of portrayals" sections seen on some character pages. --Glowsquid (talk) 21:14, February 9, 2021 (EST)

I agree with this. Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 22:43, February 9, 2021 (EST)
Seconded; if anything in terms of the infobox for character articles, I think it should be listing the English voice artists only. For those that have voice artists in other language, I think it should be under a sub-section under "List of portrayals" in character articles after the English ones have been listed first (when it is really necessary). --M. C. - Profile | Talk Page 00:01, February 10, 2021 (EST)
I agree. --MarioMorty (talk) 19:46, February 12, 2021 (EST)

Idea For April Fools 2021

Idea For April Fool's: Remove everything relating to Mario's 35th anniversary for a day. (you probably know why) --MarioMorty (talk) 20:04, February 19, 2021 (EST)

Did you know ideas

For the next "did you know" we cold put: Mario and Luigis last name is Mario. Bubbasour11 sprite.pngBubbasour1117

Worldwide release dates

For games with a worldwide release date, we could put a globe next to the date of release to signify this. Spooky! (talk) 19:56, June 30, 2021 (EDT)

This was something I was thinking of bringing up, I don't really like the look of certain game infoboxes saying the exact same date for every country. Swallow's profile picture shown in NEO: The World Ends With You Swallow Rindo Kanade 19:58, June 30, 2021 (EDT)

Demo subsection/subpage

I was wondering if we should add a section about demos (not tech demos) such as store kiosk demos or the gamecube demos discs featuring multiple games Bobster (talk) 14:23, July 23, 2021 (EDT)

R.I.P. Walker Boone

I think it's worth mentioning on the main page. DK Fan

Dr. Mario World Memories

Even if the main game of Dr. Mario World's App. close the 1 November 2021, the App. was still working to let players to access to the Dr. Mario World's Memories from the App. until today. On the site, they said it will be closed for the 31 January 2022, but they actually close it between 00:00 (UTC) and 02:00 (UTC) the 1 February 2022 (today). As a proof, I got pictures where it worked at 11:57 PM (UTC), the 31 January and before and when it doesn't work anymore at 02:00 (UTC). Can we add those informations in the Trivia section of the main page of this site, please?

The page for Dr. Mario World should also include those informations.

Ouimet (talk) 09:07, February 1, 2022 (ET)


Nice to see the suggestion is read and considerate as well. This site really doesn't aged as well too.
Ouimet (talk) 11:53, February 3, 2022 (ET)
Please be patient, talk page messages aren't always noticed immediately. If there's information missing from pages you're free to add it. --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 14:15, February 3, 2022 (EST)

April Fools 2022 idea.

Since 2022 will mark the 30th anniversary of Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins, the first appearance of Wario, we should briefly turn this wiki into the Super Wario Wiki. DK Fan

The staff have already decided on what April Fools will be themed on this year. You'll see when the time comes. Swallow's profile picture shown in NEO: The World Ends With You Swallow Rindo Kanade 20:46, March 10, 2022 (EST)

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

Um, is there any way to update the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Pass Course info with it being released in the US of A as well? Because I was able to purchase it off the eShop. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 08:45, March 18, 2022 (EDT)

Considering

I've been considering to create a SSB proposal where instead of asking to further simplify and/or delete, it allow for allowing more SSB coverage. I thought about this a bit... The Super Smash Bros. series title is a pun on Super Mario Bros..... in the English language, that is, and while it's not the case in Japanese, this is still an English-speaking wiki & many are familiarized with Mario being the flagship of not only Nintendo but the main representative of the overall SSB series, especially the earlier installments with fewer third-party characters. In this regard I consider Super Smash Bros. a "related series" to the Mario franchise (whereas Zelda & Kirby, for example, are obviously their own thing). I just wanted to get feedback on this idea for a proposal before putting it into practice. It's also the main resource for casual SSB players not only in NIWA but online in general. Results May Vary (talk) 10:18, April 12, 2022 (EDT)

Smash coverage is a majorly polarizing aspect of this wiki, so if you're going to seriously suggest that we undo all that progress we've made toward limiting our Smash coverage in favor of treating the series as full-on Mario titles and fully covering it then you'd better be ready for the floodgates to open. I, for one, vehemently oppose. I'd rather do the exact opposite and get rid of our non-Mario coverage of Smash (or spin it off to a new wiki or something). I posted several comments on that proposal I just linked explaining why, but I think Glowsquid's comment sums it up better. Dark BonesSig.png 11:06, April 12, 2022 (EDT)
I mean I have relocated a lot of the content elsewhere (user page could point in the right direction), but I'm infamous around NIWA, so that's a problem when it comes to directly connecting it to Mario Wiki. Know what I mean? Results May Vary (talk) 11:20, April 12, 2022 (EDT)
Can't say I do know what you mean about your alleged "infamy". It's not a good excuse for dumping the content here regardless. Dark BonesSig.png 12:39, April 12, 2022 (EDT)
Yeah I just meant if the SSB coverage issue were brought up again, the current solution to it might not be ideal as it not a full replication of the Mario Wiki style. This is because it's a Miraheze wiki (I can't afford to host wikis anymore) and I don't plan to move it off or try & have it inducted in NIWA or be hosted by Grifkuba (long story). That's why I figured the representation of casual SSB within NIWA would mainly be done from the Mario Wiki itself. Results May Vary (talk) 12:53, April 12, 2022 (EDT)


Film infobox

Hey, I think it's time we develop an infobox for movies, with the upcoming Mario movie and whatnot. I would make it myself but I get a little confused by how to make a template. Aside from having the details that already covered therein the article like director and cast, it could cover details like the movie's runtime, budget and box office, details that are not present in these types of articles. Little Mouser.PNGPaper Jorge (Talk·Contribs)

I put together {{film infobox}} (based off {{TV series infobox}}) as a start. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 21:47, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

April Fool's 2023 Idea.

I know what to do for April Fool's 2023 make it Sonic themed like I did here NatsMario's Mii.NatsMarioMario's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. 02:38, May 30, 2022 (EDT) Updated on 05:50, May 30, 2022 (EDT)

I do think we should wait for more ideas next year, see if new ideas crop up as we'll get more Mario games and whatnot. April Fools was just 2 months ago, after all. Mario Green.pngBazooka Mario BadaBoom! 04:14, May 30, 2022 (EDT)
I want it to be Sonic because we something similar years ago NatsMario's Mii.NatsMarioMario's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. 05:46, May 30, 2022 (EDT)
As I said a few sections above, the staff decide on what to do for April Fools, and we start thinking about it around February-March. Swallow's profile picture shown in NEO: The World Ends With You Swallow Rindo Kanade 07:51, May 30, 2022 (EDT)
Okay NatsMario's Mii.NatsMarioMario's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. 14:45, May 30, 2022 (EDT)
Maybe We Can Use This Whem Mario And Sonic At The Olympic Games 2023 Comes Out NatsMario's Mii.NatsMarioMario's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. 19:12, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

That editing field...

I think several of us agree that the background we're using for editing is.... not the greatest. There has been proposed changes to it in our Discord channel, such as changing the images or removing it all together and simply having a blank background. I don't think it hurts to have a bit of flavor, but I wonder what images we should settle on before we fire a proposal. I also decided to at least have a discussion here just so people without a Discord and those editing the wiki DO get a chance to discuss any changes and whatnot. There are several group images I like to share below.

Image 1

This is a good one since all major series stars are here. There's one issue: there's no alpha channel. (Yes Mario and Waluigi, I know you're disappointed, but don't blame Koopa con Carne this time, blame Nintendo) However I do think we can resolve this easily, doesn't seem like a difficult job to remove it; we'll probably be editing the image anyway to wash it out for the sake of good contrast with what's more important, the functionality of the editing field). Other issues do include lack of bigger players like Daisy, Rosalina, and the powerups (but to be fair, we already have powerups scattered on the sidebar anyway). I would go for this one, but I'd really like Rosalina and Daisy on there. Can't have everything.
A picture on a special poster from Club Nintendo.

Here's a mockup I did for a potential new background

Image that replaces the source image (yes it is a jpg Dizzy)

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Here is a mockup of the new background if we successfully replace it

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And here's a source png with the background white removed. I'd rather we don't pad out the image with this white space and use css functions to arrange the image at the bottom, but I'm not a css wizard at all, I just know how to inspect element and stuff

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Image 2

This one is good too since it encompasses the entire playable cast of the initial release of Strikers Battle League minus Donkey Kong a rich line up of Mario characters and powerups, but there's one issue: there's no alpha channel. Also, the lack of Donkey Kong should be an issue because we do cover the DK series in full so I feel Donkey Kong should have to be here. I figure a mockup would look pretty similar to the first attempt, so I'm not going to attempt it here.
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Image 3

And this last one does have the big benefit of an alpha channel, but it's held back by a more limited cast with no Wario despite their series being prominent part of MarioWiki.
Group artwork of various Mario franchise characters.

As for the future, well, there might be new an improved group art, but as far as goes, the 2D stuff should be more future-proof than 3D. We really shouldn't be using GCN-era renders though, especially when those three images don't even belong in the same game as each other, and one isn't a stock image of Mario, but clearly identified as artwork from 2000s. Thanks, FLUDD.

Anyway, before I try carrying out a proposal, I'd like to see any more candidates for an editing field, and we can narrow down to a few, if any, so we don't overwhelm voters with all these options. Also suggestions for adjustments to the image is fine before I file it for a proposal. Mario Green.pngBazooka Mario BadaBoom! 03:51, May 30, 2022 (EDT)

Comments for editing field

Image 3 definitely NatsMario's Mii.NatsMarioMario's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. 03:55, May 30, 2022 (EDT)

Why do you think so? Mario Green.pngBazooka Mario BadaBoom! 03:55, May 30, 2022 (EDT)
Because it looks pretty NatsMario's Mii.NatsMarioMario's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. 03:58, May 30, 2022 (EDT)
But it doesn't have WAAAAALuigi. Mario Green.pngBazooka Mario BadaBoom! 04:11, May 30, 2022 (EDT)

I'm of the sentiment that having an editing background is pretty pointless, particularly because any images would need to be transparent hard enough just to permit the editing text to be visible at all times. It just wouldn't look good to see, and as a result I don't see a reason to have another editing background that will have to be adjusted and be very faint to see. That being said, I think Image 1 looks the best, as it contains the primary cast of Mario-related characters. -- PanchamBro (talkcontributions) 04:14, May 30, 2022 (EDT)

I like it because it adds a subtle accent (similar to the background in our proposals-space, as tacky as that one is) and it does help distinguish the field from the rest of the interface a bit. Our wiki looks, admittedly, plain and minimalist at points, but maybe an accent here will help it keep it a little more unique compared to other wikis aesthetics-wise. Mario Green.pngBazooka Mario BadaBoom! 04:19, May 30, 2022 (EDT)
Now I changed my mind image 2 is good because of Mario Strikers: Battle League NatsMario's Mii.NatsMarioMario's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. 04:21, May 30, 2022 (EDT)

I think Image 2 is pretty good, since it contains most of the major characters and enemies of the franchise, though I can rarely even see that edit background image. Most of the time, it's blocked by a ton of words. Wario (Cowboy) from Mario Kart TourWildWario (talk) 04:33, May 30, 2022 (EDT)

It's definitely a good lineup but it just irritates me that DK is missing, and DK content takes up a big chunk of the wiki. Mario Green.pngBazooka Mario BadaBoom! 04:37, May 30, 2022 (EDT)

I'm personally in the "we don't need one at all" camp, but I'd prefer image 1. --Waluigi's head icon in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 12:02, May 30, 2022 (EDT)

Because the opacity of image 2 was a concern in Bazooka Mario's original post, I'd like to inform everyone that Play Nintendo provides a version with an alpha channel, although it's smaller and has some shading dither:
Mario group artwork usable as a decoration in the Mushroom Kingdom 2021 Calendar Creator
-- KOOPA CON CARNE 19:16, November 23, 2022 (EST)