User talk:Zootalo

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Giant Dream Team bestiary[edit]

Can I make a bestiary for the giant bosses in Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, because they aren't on the original yet BIS has giant enemy stats so can I make one or just add them to the original? :) Sprite of Black Ninjakoopa, from Paper Mario. Sprite of Red Ninjakoopa, from Paper Mario. The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 01:26, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

hey, wait a minute...[edit]

Did you read the email I sent you? I forgot to consider the case with high-res screens.

There is a CSS property called min-width. You can set the table width to 40%, and to put "min-width:600px" into the style stuff.

{|class= "sortable" width=40% cellspacing=0 border=1 cellpadding=2 style="text-align: center; border-collapse: collapse; border: 1px solid black; min-width:600px"

This makes the table work well both on lowres screens and on highres screens. Try the following table with page zooming :)

Enemy/Boss HP ATK Skill ATK DEF Turns XP Coins
Goomba
Goomba
? 324 421 (Bash) 15 2 8 0 (1)*
Green Koopa Troopa
Green Koopa Troopa
? 257 -- 45 2 8 0
Goomba
Goomba (Boss battle)
? 583 758 (Bash) 16 2 58 6

Goombas drop 1 Coin upon playing this course for the first time. A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 23:12, 20 July 2016 (EDT)

Great work[edit]

Hey Zootalo! I just wanted to say that you have been doing a formidable job with the Puzzles & Dragons articles lately. Keep up the great work!

Thanks,

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 19:33, 26 July 2016 (EDT)

The fact that the game is not maintream or popular only makes your contributions more valuable.
'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 20:11, 26 July 2016 (EDT)

Archives[edit]

I don't know if you are aware of {{talkarchive}}. You may want to put those in your three archives and remember to use it for future archiving. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 22:35, 27 July 2016 (EDT)

RE: Anything for P&D:SMBE[edit]

First off, no emulators going on here with my PNG submissions of 3DS games. It is all hacking-related using real hardware. Second, I only have the demo of that game. I can't help you get screenshots but I can help you get started being able to do this yourself (if you have the game of course). ;) --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 16:25, 30 July 2016 (EDT)

If you have a 3DS running 11.0.0-33 firmware (check system settings), you can run browserhax. Use HANS to take screenshots of games (HOME Button). See my guide for further details. I also recommend getting other exploits setup. Hiccup (talk) tipped me off there because I was having issues with some games that I no longer have now that I am running stickerhax. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 16:39, 30 July 2016 (EDT)
I saw you uploaded five new screenshots for the game you wanted me to upload screenshots for. I wanted to get better screenshots uploaded. No can do. Homebrew (HANS) locks up when trying to load the demo. I wanted to verify that it's the specific title causing the issues by loading something I know works fine in the past and it is indeed the demo being incompatible with HANS. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 15:36, 28 August 2016 (EDT)

RE: Paper Mario screenshots[edit]

Are you referring to the images on List of Star Pieces in Paper Mario? I replaced a few of those already but the replacements project is incomplete. The issue I am having with those images are emulator glitches (very minor and many emulators struggle to emulate Paper Mario correctly) and JPEGs converted to PNG. Retaking them yourself would be a good idea with either angrylion graphics (preferred) or Glide64 (tolerable). The most you are doing is lowering bandwidth requirements to transmit the images to other users more so than increasing quality. Generally, I think N64 emulation has spread a lot of misinformation over the years (I suspect Project64 as it is the most popular). The border is what real hardware produces. I checked. When the take screenshot option is executed in an emulator, some games generate a border, which is not an emulator glitch but rather correct N64 gamepak execution. By MarioWiki:Image use policy, you should mention a crop to the black-bordered image. That rule was a compromise between my desire to see screenshots unaltered if a border is present and Porplemontage (talk)'s desire to make pages look better. There are many images on MarioWiki that are lacking mentioning a crop because the policy change was made after those images were uploaded. Those affected files do need updating with their {{aboutfile}}. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 18:48, 15 September 2016 (EDT)

I've seen both GIF to PNG and JPEG to PNG.
I was in the process several months ago but I lost interest, stopping at Boo's Mansion.
There are more reasons to mention black border crops besides technical accuracy. It's to reassure visitors that the image is not too small, was taken properly, and the output was indeed matching what real hardware produces before edits were performed. The angrylion graphics plug-in adjusts the resolution automatically. I don't recommend getting screenshots from places other than emulators because emulators have the cleanest output. The only exceptions are Miiverse JPEG screenshots, Wii U 1280x720 JPEG screenshots through the built-in web browser, and 3DS homebrew producing PNGs on real hardware as you play. Those sources are tolerable (except 3DS homebrew because those screenshots are ideal and don't need redoing for pixel quality). --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 14:43, 16 September 2016 (EDT)

Re: Paper Jam Enemy stats[edit]

Hi Zootalo. I agree with your comment stating how further variables are required beyond Madbird's overly simple forumula: defense would indeed need to be taken into account. If he's based this formula on his additions to the Bestiary, including the Easy Mode statistics as you specified, then I wouldn't trust them to be accurate at all. And shying away after being pressed for more details about his methods doesn't help his case.

I think all these Bestiary statistics should generally provide a reputable source for the data, such as a page on someone detailing how they correctly "mined" the data, or from someone who's been proved correct time and time again in their work, such as User:Jdaster64 appears to be. I'd prefer to wait for a second source to confirm Madbird's statistics, before we officially enforce them on the Bestiary.

And anyway, if calculating the statistics really is as simple as Madbird advocates it to be, then someone more... reputable would be bound to confirm it sometime soon.

'Shroom Spotlight Shokora (talk · edits) 06:05, 20 September 2016 (EDT)

Re: New bestiary styles[edit]

I actually plan to make a proposal soon about this. You can read about it on on Red Yoshi in a construction hat walking Yoshi the SSM (talk) talk page. Currently there's no way I can transclude the data efficiently from the tables. It works by copying the variables directly to the target page, but a table doesn't use variables. Also, I found that some of the enemy boxes contain MORE stats than the tables did!--EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 14:42, 20 November 2016 (EST)
Also, take a look at how the profiles for each bestiary will look like here --> User:Eldritchdraaks/bestiary
And to see how the enemy boxes will appear on each page they are placed on, look here --> User:Eldritchdraaks/enemy
Take a good look at the source code on those pages.

--EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 15:17, 21 November 2016 (EST)

Okay, here's the start of my proposal. Please give me feedback on the discussion page there, tell me what else I need to add because I feel like I can rely on you to help me do this. EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 23:27, 21 November 2016 (EST)

I think the deadline on my proposal hit an hour ago. What now? Do I wait for an admin to handle it?--EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 20:07, 29 November 2016 (EST)

email reply[edit]

Hi. I received your email and wrote a reply, but it seems to have failed to deliver. If you haven't received it here it is:

That would definitely make navigation harder. Even tracking down all the item drops becomes harder -- your eyes have to watch out for "Item" entries on regular interval when scrolling down. Yes, a table that is truly 2D would be desirable. These can be put simply on the article for the game; Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time § Enemies is a good example and it looks nice as well.

If you have visited 52Poké Wiki, the Chinese affiliate of Bulbapedia, you'll notice an "Individual Value calculator" by the side bar of the skin. It is not implemented through a wiki page but rather a Javascript-powered HTML page on the wiki's server. This is more interactive than simple sortability. But if this is not feasible for MarioWiki, a 2D table that can at least be copied and pasted into Excel for further analysis is still better than a bunch of cards where what would be a row of information is "folded."

--A gossip-loving Toad (Talk) 23:50, 22 November 2016 (EST)
(If you have any further reply/email, please post it on my talk page on this wiki instead.)

Sticker Star bestiary Complete![edit]

I've finished working on the Paper Mario: Sticker Star bestiary and it looks great! A bit fancy? perhaps. But in no way does it detract from the purpose or functionality of the bestiary. I'm hoping to make each bestiary template look like it belongs with it's respective game.--EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 23:48, 2 December 2016 (EST)

Re: Other variables for ML:SS bestiary and infobox[edit]

Could these be combined into a single Type variable? like shelled, spiny, fire, stuff like that?--EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 10:29, 12 December 2016 (EST)

The item drops do not need to be in separate columns, they will stay as they are now. It looks better this way and keeps things compact. However, I need you to tell me what the difference between Hand and Thunder/Fire are since they both seem to do the same thing.--EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 23:43, 13 December 2016 (EST)

re:RDM[edit]

Thank you very much. --Glowsquid (talk) 11:43, 7 January 2017 (EST)

Future tense[edit]

You've been reminded about this in the past, but once again, please keep in mind that writing in the future tense goes against our good writing policy. Any verb that's been conjugated in the form of "will x", as in, "Shellshock will eat it instead," is considered future tense. Always make sure to keep track of your writing! Hello, I'm Time Turner. 23:38, 29 January 2017 (EST)

Item drop chances[edit]

I don't know if you or someone else copied the item drop info for Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time / Bowser's Inside Story, but the rates of the items as they stand are misleading. I just put together an article on how drop rates are calculated in the first three Mario & Luigi and Paper Mario games, for reference (with the actual item drop data linked as well). Jdaster64 (talk) 14:07, 9 September 2017 (EDT)

RE: Character descriptions from manuals and guides[edit]

Nothing against adding descriptions from official material. The "List of X profiles and statistics" subpages or sections would be a good place to add those if they have one. If not (e.g. for Rip Van Fish), you can always create an "Official profiles" section for that. Lucina costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 22:57, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

Re:Yoshi Shogakukan[edit]

Sorry for the horrendous delay - I almost forgot about it. Some of it is honestly hard to make out from the pictures, so don't take this as 100%, but here's a rough look...

Cover

A pretty standard front cover that looks to be in the style of their Super Mario World guides. The right blurb says, "Get 50K Points! Reach Level 28! Battle Play Tips!"

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Yoshi's Egg Original Story

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Once upon a time on islands. Before the birth of humans, in this spec floating on the seas, there lived many dinosaurs and turtles.

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One day, the volcano in the middle of the islands erupted, and debris violently hit the islands.

All of the dinosaurs attempted to flee the scene, their eggs swallowed from up the mountain to down the valley.

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Tens of thousands of years have passed since then, and the islands became too quiet. Newer creatures have been born. Now, they inhabit fossilized egg pieces.

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Then, from the Native Star, 5 shooting stars fell to the ground. (Note: Native Star is what the Star World courses from Super Mario World are called in the Japanese version.)

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Native Star's light pierced an egg piece, and it fell down the side of the mountain along with the stars, combining with the pieces below.

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As soon as it became one, the egg at last cracked, and Yoshi was born from within.

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With Native Star's mysterious light, many other dinosaurs that had become fossils were resurrected, and "Dinosaur Land" became the name of the islands. If you find Yoshi's Egg, would you not give it tender love and care?

Yoshi may be born with your consideration.

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World Premiere — It's the Truth About Yoshi!!

Yoshi All-Encompassing Illustrations

Mario's minion? Friend? What kind of monster? Yoshi is in the game, but there are many aspects yet to be understood. Here you will discover Yoshi's biggest secrets.

Yoshi Mouth: Like a chameleon, the tongue lashes out. Can also spit flames.

Yoshi Wings: Sometimes grows wings over time. Can fly all the way to America.

Yoshi Back: Even supporting Mario's weight, it retains a catlike sense of balance. Wears a horse saddle.

Yoshi Stomach: Does a nice job of digesting almost anything short of a turtle shell. Barely gets stomachaches.

Yoshi Rear: Although the tail hides it from view, it appears to be utilized to produce eggs.

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Exploring Yoshi's Life

He recently hatched. However, he has a block from morning to evening. He has a life, with his own objectives. Let's look over his life.

8:00 - Out of Bed: Our Yoshi awakens at a time early for Dinosaur Land. The average wake-up time for Dinosaur Land islanders enveloped by the mellow environment is 10 o'clock.

11:00 - Schoolwork: Our Yoshi goes to school to study various subjects, including national dance, accounting, music theory, philosophy, applied physics, and transportation engineering. He's fairly intelligent.

15:00 - Work: The afternoon is spent assisting Mario in his constant struggle against Koopa. Our Yoshi's block is done for today after this.

19:00 - Free Time: Mario and friends usually have time to relax at this point. There are often games that are played together.

In summary, Shogakukan gives us an origin story for Dinosaur Land and present-day dinosaurs in general, plus a silly look at Yoshi's biology and daily life. Neat! LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:20, 3 December 2018 (EST)

Recent file moves[edit]

So, I deleted the files anyway, but "VS" is an acceptable alternative to "Vs". Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 16:57, January 26, 2020 (EST)

File redirects[edit]

Hello, be sure to mark any old file names for deletion after moving the files (once no pages link to the old name), as we don't want file redirects. Lucina costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 22:31, July 20, 2021 (EDT)

Where to put Paper Mario quotes[edit]

Do you think quotes from Paper Mario characters should be (1) centralized on the List of Paper Mario quotes page, or (2) placed on the pages of the individual characters? I think (2) is preferable, because it allows room for more quotes as well as better organizations, but it has the disadvantage of mixing secondary sources and primary sources on a single page. (I'm embarking on a project which requires the quotes to be grouped by location for roaming characters like Parakarry.) --Dine2017 (talk) 07:39, September 3, 2021 (EDT)

Uh, never mind. According to MarioWiki:Empty sections, the "Quotes" section of the character page is supposed to be a sample of the List of xxx quotes page, about 5 to 10 items long. (The problem is that some characters only have five quotes throughout the game...) --Dine2017 (talk) 10:43, September 3, 2021 (EDT)

Zelda enemies[edit]

Thank you for helping on elaborating upon the Mario enemies' role within Legend of Zelda games. I have been imagining the Mario Wiki coverage scope being strengthened considering Mario franchise's influence within so many forms of media, and possibly how to word general Nintendo/SSB stuff from a Mario-related angle. Fact that Pinball and Pictobits are looking to have full coverage inspired me to follow in lead with some Zelda-related stuff (plays in at a good time). Results May Vary (talk) 11:33, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Feel free to borrow from my wiki, by the way. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:48, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

I already have been, but thank you Results May Vary (talk) 14:50, April 14, 2022 (EDT)
...I was talking to Zootalo. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 14:55, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Re:Bubble[edit]

I think the word the Paper Mario games use is オバケ in Japanese, which doesn't always refer to ghosts in the western sense. That may be why it was translated as a "spirit" in the Tattle. That said, some of the variants, like Phantom Ember and Lava Ghost, do seem to be more along those lines... LinkTheLefty (talk) 20:52, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

Regarding writing systems[edit]

So, I really don't think it's needed at all on those pages. Furigana already shows you the intended reading, so it looks unnatural when the intended reading is duplicated next to the furigana. I think it works when it differs in some way from how it's written, like through the use of katakana rather than hiragana or alternate characters. Especially since the wiki will be phasing out {{hover|[K]|[H]}} ([K]) and {{ruby|[K]|[H]}} ([K][H]) where applicable, so now the duplication would be more readily visible to readers. LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:38, January 7, 2023 (EST)

I'll chime in and say that I disagree. When the names in Japanese are listed it's meant to show exactly what they are referred to in any given source, and combining sources with different writing systems because one uses the other's writing in the furigana makes it look like both of those sources use the same writing system. For example, if source A refers to an enemy as "Debu Inu" (fat dog) in kanji with hirigana in the furigana and Source B refers to that same enemy with the same name, but written only in hirigana without the kanji, combining both of those sources under Source A's writing system makes it look like Source B also uses kanji with hirigana furigana on top, which would be false. Leaving the names separate avoids this confusion. S o m e t h i n g o n e ! A Big Bandit from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. 17:58, January 7, 2023 (EST)
To be clear, "combining sources" isn't the idea here. Like, if there's a known source that only uses hiragana and another source that only uses kanji, but the pronunciation is otherwise the same, they would still be listed separately and not merged from there to form the hypothetical furigana on our end. The idea is to prioritize official sources that clearly show the furigana, making identical, furigana-less version(s) unnecessary. Japanese is a phonetic language, so it isn't really seen the same way as alternate English spellings per se. LinkTheLefty (talk) 18:08, January 7, 2023 (EST)

RE: Spark bestiary?[edit]

"Bestiary" is used for enemies so maybe "List of Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope Spark statistics" going by MarioWiki:Lists#Naming conventions. Lucina costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 20:40, February 17, 2023 (EST)

Section header links[edit]

Per MarioWiki:Manual of Style#Section headings, section headers should not have links in them. Bowser Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 10:37, March 16, 2023 (EDT)

JP Psychopaths[edit]

Given the remake is only a month away, wouldn't you rather wait until it's out? The thoughts are probably getting more direct translations if this is anything to go by. (Although I am aware that some lines have been reworked slightly compared to the original.) Also, that site's transcriptions are missing some of the nuances in the Japanese text like the heart symbol. LinkTheLefty (talk) 09:29, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

Machine Made Yaridovich's attacks[edit]

Hello, I thought I'd ask you, since you seem to have added most of the info on the SMRPG bestiary, where'd you find each enemy's attacks? I'm asking, because the Machine Made Yaridovich has two special attacks listed (Pierce and "Glowing Shot") and it seems he never actually uses them. If you look at his script here, you can see he is coded to only use them when "$00, bit 01" is set, which it never is by either him or the Bits he splits into. And in the remake's Monster List, he only has animations for his spells. So should the special attacks be removed? Blinker (talk) 11:45, December 3, 2023 (EST)

Alright, thanks! Also, sorry if my comment's wording wasn't all that well-chosen. Blinker (talk) 17:22, December 3, 2023 (EST)