Talk:List of games

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How come some guest appearances are listed in this page while some guest appearances aren't? One of these two things should be changed for consistency sake imo. The only reason I'm not changing anything myself is that I don't know exactly which of these things should be changed according to policy. 3D Player 2010 16:36, 25 September 2015 (EDT)

Upcoming Games![edit]

Tomorrow Nintendo Direct will show more upcoming games,it might have Mario Games too. If Not Reply Me
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Mario Party Star Rush[edit]

Nintendo recently announced at E3 'Mario Party Star Rush' for the 3DS, featuring seven new amiibo (including a glow-in-the-dark Boo) and they are releasing a demo tomorrow. Since we already have some upcoming games in the list, shouldn't we make an article on it based on what we know?

Quizmelon

Super Mario App[edit]

Nintendo have just - like about an hour ago - announced an app for iPad, 'Super Mario Run'. I believe info for it can be found on the App Store. Will this be getting its own article?

Quizmelon (talk) 13:29, 7 September 2016 (EDT)

Nintendo Switch[edit]

Hey guys, I just watched the new Nintendo Switch trailer reveal on Nintendo's YouTube channel today on Thursday, October 20, 2016! And since the Nintendo Switch is a hybrid between a home console and handheld, where should I place it within the List of games? --Jjrapper100 (talk) 10:20, 20 October 2016 (EDT)

Source(s):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5uik5fgIaI

I think it should be categorised as a handheld to be honest. It has ARM architecture (like the 3DS, smartphones and tablets) and a lot of the games are advertised as handheld games. memoryman3 (talk)

Nintendo presently markets the Switch as a console, so it should remain as such. Even if we classify it as both, it'd be tedious to include its list of games in two different sections. At the moment, it should remain under "Consoles". Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 12:04, 25 August 2017 (EDT)

Logos[edit]

Would it be a good idea to include small logos of every game beside its corresponding entry in the tables, similar to what User:Mario jc did here?--EldritchdraaksSig1.pngEldritchdraaksSig2.png 20:27, 28 December 2016 (EST)

Minecraft[edit]

Didn't Minecraft for the Switch come out? If so, why is the article indicating that it didn't? B to the RON! 02:05, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

That's for the physical release. The digital release (under "Nintendo eShop") is already out. Ashley pose SMM.png Mario JC 05:09, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

Super Mario World Medal Game[edit]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pySob67OVc

Do we have coverage of this on our wiki? Shadow2 (talk) 05:27, 17 October 2017 (EDT)

I don't think so....sure that's not bootleg? A version of Super Mario World that colors Spinies correctly seems rather surreal... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 06:03, 17 October 2017 (EDT)
You can briefly see it has the 'Banpresto' logo. Shadow2 (talk) 06:35, 17 October 2017 (EDT)
That's a figure company.....is this like a gachapon machine? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 06:46, 17 October 2017 (EDT)

Aight, so Banpresto was an arcade game manufacturer (both of the video and mechanical kind). The wiki does not have a page about that specific medal game. --Glowsquid (talk) 11:37, 17 October 2017 (EDT)

Hi. I'm new here and I obsess over these obscure Mario games. The video is gone. Three questions to try and resolve the issue 50%. 1, did you manage to download the video? 2, is there a picture on Google images? 3, can this game be found on the arcade coverage super Mario boards forum post for banpresto? A bit of trivia: before Capcom made all those Mario party arcade games for Japan, Banpresto was the dominant third party developer for licensed Mario arcade games and all of them were also released in Japan. The questions are for shadow2. Lord Falafel (talk) 19:00, May 18, 2019 (EDT)

I THINK this is the same game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpjqAFdpncI Shadow2 (talk) 03:13, August 20, 2019 (EDT)

That's Būbū Mario. We have that one covered. Lord Falafel (talk) 22:49, September 24, 2019 (EDT)

Thank you so much for uploading this video. This helps out a bunch. Lord Falafel (talk) 22:56, September 24, 2019 (EDT)

Super Mario Club (Famicom Network System)[edit]

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Hi, recently I read about a 'game' (more like software) that isn't mentioned much due to being on an obscure service for the Famicom called the Famicom Network System. This software was for toy stores to provide Nintendo video game reviews and may be relevant in some way to the Mario Club Co., Ltd. Nintendo subsidiary. Mario and Luigi appear in a little animation within the software. I wrote all I could find about it with sources on our NIWA affiliate NintendoWiki here, but I figure maybe it would be better for someone else to reword it so it isn't too similar in style. Could someone make the article here for me please? Thanks! ^^ Chickasaurus (talk) 09:30, May 1, 2019 (EDT)

Edit - There also may have been Super Mario Club software titles for Super Famicom called Super Mario Club Taikai You according to SNES game lists, and Wii (according to a config.ini file within the code of Wii Sports). Chickasaurus (talk) 11:54, May 1, 2019 (EDT)
If it's your own writing entirely, you could just copy the page over if you'd like. It's not plagiarism if you're copying your own work, though links and templates will have to be corrected. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 11:57, May 1, 2019 (EDT)

Missing games[edit]

If anyone is reading this message, I have information regarding obscure Mario games and obscure donkey kong games as well as an obscure Tetris game that are missing from the list of games organized by system. If you're interested in adding all the games, reply to this discussion post. I've organized them all into separate categories on my phone's notepad. So, I have them ready to be sent to anyone who stumbles upon this message and wants to put them on that list. And they are all officially manufactured/endorsed by Nintendo. So, I have no unofficial games like Mario bros II for the Commodore 64 or the Amiga port of donkey kong. For those of you who don't know who I am, my username for this wiki is Lord Falafel and I've been looking for all these games since 2015 because I am an avid Mario fan and donkey kong fan and wanted to find all the games and media in those 2 franchises. I find obscure games from multiple franchises and add them to a physical notebook. But like I said earlier, I have added the Mario, donkey kong and Tetris games missing from the list of games organized by system onto my phone and therefore have them digitally archived. I joined this site recently and I hope there isn't another user with the name Lord Falafel. I also hope that what I want to do to help the aforementioned list on this site cover all the games on and not on the list doesn't come off as vandalization. I just want to help. So please, let me know if you're interested in adding all these titles and I'll read them off my phone and I'll put them in the same types of organized categories that I did a few days ago on my memo pad. That is all. Lord Falafel (talk) 15:21, May 16, 2019 (EDT)

Nice to meet you! You don't need to worry about being marked as a vandal, unless you intend on doing something majorly wrong, which you don't.
What are the games? And do you have a good source that claims they exist? Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 17:11, May 16, 2019 (EDT)

I have good sources, yes. But I have so many games that i'll have to send a separate message for the sources and countries of origin. For now, i'll just tell you the names of the games and add the sources later. First category is officially licensed Adobe flash games on a website called Nintendo arcade. They were released from 2005-2007 and they were made to promote the games they were based on. The first ones have no available release dates. DK: jungle climber - banana grab (200?). Mario tennis: power tour - bicep bump (200?). Mario tennis: power tour - reflex rally (200?). New super Mario bros 1-up hunt! (200?). Wario: master of disguise trivia (200?). Yoshi's island DS - yoshi's egg toss (200?). These next ones all have confirmed release dates. DK: king of swing - hurling for distance (2005). DKC3 - barrel-blastapalooza (2005). Dr Mario vitamin toss (2005). Mario party 7 - bowser's lair hockey (2005). Super Mario strikers - heads up (2005). Super princess peach - parasol fall (2005). Mario hoops 3-on-3 - dribble skillz (2006). Mario vs. DK 2: cannon kaos (2006). Tetris DS puzzle mode (2006). Diddy kong racing DS - timber's balloon pop (2007). Super paper Mario memory match (2007). Second category is games on a website called play Nintendo. These games don't have available release dates, either. Mushroom kingdom match-up (20??). Donkey kong match-up (20??). Yoshi's new island match-up (201?). Mario stargazer (20??). Discover your amiibo inside (201?). Third category is small, tabletop electronic pinball games. One of them is called donkey kong and the other one is called donkey kong country. And they're both based on the current donkey kong. The donkey kong one has no available release date, but the donkey kong country one was released in 1995. The Mario ones are super Mario bros (1988), super Mario world (1992) and super Mario 64 (2003). I can't find any manufacturer information for the donkey kong ones, but the Mario ones were made by playtime. Fourth category is wrist watch LCD games. You already have the ones based on super Mario bros 3 and super Mario world, but you're missing the release date for the super Mario world watch. It's 1991. Now, to the ones you don't have. In 1989, they released wrist watch LCD games based on super Mario bros and super Mario bros 2. In 1990, the same year the super Mario bros 3 watch came out, they released Mario's egg catch, Luigi's hammer toss game and princess toadstool's castle run. In 1992, they released Dr Mario and super Mario race. The latter was based on super Mario kart. In 1994, they released donkey kong, which was based on donkey kong for the game boy or as some people like to call it, donkey kong '94. And all of them were made by Nelsonic, except for the Dr Mario one, which was made by a company called Mani. Fifth category is satellaview versions of games. In the list of games organized by system, in the satellaview section, there's an entry called BS wario's woods. But there are actually 2 satellaview versions of wario's woods and they are called wario's woods burst of laughter version and wario's woods again. Those are the actual English titles. They were released in 1995. The full on Wikipedia called list of games featuring Mario apparently found a 1997 release date for Mario paint BS ban and Mario paint yuushou naizou ban, satellaview versions of Mario paint. Sixth category is different versions of games. Pokka Mario bros is the first of these and it is a special edition of the game and watch game Mario bros and was released the same year, which is 1983. In 1986, they released a sharp X1 version of super Mario bros special. Nintendo themselves made 2 types of arcade systems that played some of their classic arcade and console games. One of these is the Nintendo playchoice-10, which you have. The other one, which you don't have is called the Nintendo super system and the only game I found for it was super Mario world and like the American version of super Mario world, it came out in 1991. Then there was donkey kong country competition cartridge, which came out in 1994. It was on the SNES. There was also an MS-DOS version of Mario's time machine called Mario's time machine deluxe and it was released in 1994. For the N64, they released an update of super Mario 64 called super Mario 64 shindou version and it came out in 1997. These last 2 are arcade games, but they're versions of games and are not their own games. The first one was double donkey kong. It composed of donkey kong and donkey kong Jr. It was made by braze technologies and it came out in 1999. Then came a 2005 version of the original donkey kong arcade game and this version was made by Namco. Seventh category is arcade games and boy oh boy, are there lots of these. The first ones have no available release dates. They are super Mario bros 3 (mini piccadilly), super Mario world (mini piccadilly), which were both made by Konami, Mario's rock-out, guruguru Mario, which were made by Banpresto, swanky's bonus slots, which was based on super donkey kong 2 and was made by a company called Sunwise and tori Mario, which is a kiddie ride like those penny eating horses you see at grocery stores and it was made by Banpresto. Up until Capcom made all those Mario party arcade games, Banpresto was the dominant third party developer for licensed Mario arcade games. Now, for the arcade games with available release dates. Piccadilly circus: super Mario bros 3. It was released in 1991 and it was made by Konami. The rest of these were made by Banpresto except for the fifth one which was made by Gottlieb and the last 2, which were made by Capcom. The first 4 Banpresto ones are a game simply titled Mario world, which came out in 1991, terebi denwa super Mario world (1992), super Mario world popcorn (1992) and shiny pika Mario (1992). The Gottlieb one was released in 1992 and it was simply titled super Mario bros. The other Banpresto ones were koopa taiji (1993), super Mario ride (Mario version) (1993), super Mario ride (yoshi version) (1993), super Mario kart dokidoki race (1994), super Mario attack (1996) and dokidoki Mario chance! (2003). The Capcom ones are Mario party fushigi no korokoro catcher 2 (2013) and Mario party fushigi no challenge world (2016). The eighth and final category is cancelled games. Let's start with donkey kong games and finish with Mario games. DK bongo blast was a cancelled title planned for the GameCube. There was a donkey kong parking attendant arcade game and it was going to be an arcade game made by Sega. Finally, there was a donkey kong game intended for a release on the Philips CD-I. We don't even know what the name was going to be. Finally, cancelled Mario games. First we have super Mario FX, which was intended for a SNES release. Then we have a build for a Mario kart game intended for the DS called Mario motors. Then we have Mario's castle which was going to be on a Nintendo made system that was also cancelled. It never got a confirmed final name for the system, but the demo name of it was project Atlantis. Orpheus software pitched a version of super Mario bros for the Commodore 64, but Nintendo rejected it. And finally, a Mario kart game that was intended to be built into Tesla cars. Lord Falafel (talk) 12:11, May 18, 2019 (EDT)

What I meant was the project Atlantis was a demo name for the system that was going to play Mario's castle and we never got a confirmed final name for the project Atlantis. I also made a mistake. I can't find any manufacturer information for the super Mario 64 electronic pinball machine. Next message will be the sources. Lord Falafel (talk) 12:26, May 18, 2019 (EDT)

I just reread the games on the list of games organized by system and I can't find the tech demo known as super Mario 128. So, that game also needs to be added to that list. Anyway, onto the sources. The super Mario wiki itself, not the list of games has a page about the website called Nintendo arcade, the same page has the flash games that were playable on that website, there's a page on play Nintendo and all the games and activities on that website, there's a page on the 1996 Banpresto arcade game called super Mario attack, so all of those pages are on the super Mario wiki, the page for wario's woods mentions the 2 satellaview versions of that game, the super Mario wiki mentions pokka Mario bros, super Mario bros special's page mentions all the versions including the sharp X1 version, the super Mario wiki mentions donkey kong country competition cartridge, Mario's time machine's page mentions the deluxe version and the 1994 release date for that version, the list of merchandise mentions a super Mario bros 3 based pachi slot game and that game happens to be super Mario bros 3 (mini piccadilly), the list of merchandise mentions the super Mario bros and super Mario 64 electronic pinball machines, it mentions the Gottlieb super Mario bros pinball machine and it has a page on the super Mario wiki, if you select capcom next to one of the Mario party arcade games on the list of games organized by system, it mentions Mario party fushigi no korokoro catcher (2013) and Mario party fushigi no challenge world (2016). And the latter is mentioned on the list of games by date. The full on Wikipedia called list of games featuring Mario mentions super Mario world watch's 1991 release date as well as super Mario bros watch (1989), super Mario bros 2 watch (1989) and super Mario race (1992). The page called list of Mario games Mariowiki fandom powered by wikia and is an alphabetized list of Mario and donkey kong games mentions Mario's egg catch, Luigi's hammer toss game and princess toadstool's castle run. If you look at the game watches within the Wikipedia page called Nelsonic industries, you will find one released in 1994 called donkey kong and selecting donkey kong (game boy) 's Wikipedia page, the wrist watch game by Nelsonic will be in the follow-ups article. A website called game watch guys mentions the Dr Mario game watch and the 1992 release date. With super Mario world the electronic pinball machine, it's a little more complicated. Go to Google and search super Mario world pinball playtime worthpoint. The website called worthpoint will show up with an article and when you open it, you will be shown a picture of the super Mario world electronic pinball machine and the release date says 1988. This is incorrect. What you have to do is scroll down the page and then you will find an accurate page with a picture of the same machine and it will mention the correct release date: 1992. So you have to then click on it and more information on that machine will show up like the name, the manufacturer, the release date among other stuff and the fact that it's rare. At least that happened to me. If you look up donkey kong country pinball machine on Google images, you will find images of that machine and the descriptions of some of the images will mention the 1995 release date. If you scroll down to see related images, you will hopefully find the donkey kong pinball machine with no available release date information. A website called international arcade museum will mention super Mario world for the Nintendo super system as well as double donkey kong and donkey kong 2005 version. There are forum boards called arcade coverage super Mario boards and they have 4 pages: Banpresto, Konami, Sunwise and Fabtek. The 4 forum boards mention lots of obscure Mario arcade games and a donkey kong arcade game and are all exclusively released in Japan except for the super Mario world redemption game, which is already on the list of games organized by system. They mention super Mario bros 3 (mini piccadilly), super Mario world (mini piccadilly), swanky's bonus slots which is alternatively known as swanky no bonus slot, piccadilly circus super Mario bros 3, Mario world, terebi denwa super Mario world, a Mario popcorn machine video game hybrid the forum boards people call super Mario world no popcorn hanbaiki which is often shortened to super Mario world popcorn and the 1992 release date was absent from the forum boards, but it was shown on a video on YouTube of that exact game and the video was posted by a Japanese youtuber who had mepr in his name and has since removed it, but if you go to YouTube and look up mepr, you will find the channel and then you have to look for his/her upload of that game and if you find it, then awesome and a few seconds into the video, the 1992 release date will show up in the video. The forum boards also mention koopa taiji, super Mario kart dokidoki race, super Mario attack, which also has a super Mario wiki page and dokidoki Mario chance! But the other arcade games have more complicated sources. 2 Twitter users use the same account called @yamapen3 and they also have a YouTube channel that is hard for me to find because their YouTube username is in Japanese. Another Twitter account is as far as I know only run by 1 person and the account is called Buhitter. Both of these Twitter accounts have pictures of Mario and donkey kong arcade games released exclusively in Japan. Sometimes, @yamapen3 will post their profile pictures on their finds, which are images available on Twitter and Google images. Those profile pictures are of the yo-kai watch anime characters known as Lily Adams and Katie Forester. They have profile picture-less pictures on their images as well except for Mario's rock-out, which has no profile pictures on the exact same image thanks to Buhitter. And there's another picture of the machine on a carpet presumably in a building that preserves arcade games. And Mario's rock-out is the name of the machine according to Buhitter. @yamapen3 calls it super Mario's rock and pork souffle. Mario's rock-out sounds like a much more accurate name. The machine has a bunch of hands on it and buttons with hands as well as a hand light in the center of the machine and the top screen can say XXO, XOX, etc. And the very top of the machine is a plastic case and inside are a figure of Mario and a figure of yoshi and they look similar to the figure counterparts for the arcade game known as Mario undoukai. Guruguru Mario looks like those Mario piccadilly games, but this time it's made by Banpresto instead of Konami. On the center of the machine, Mario is riding on yoshi and pointing to an enemy for yoshi to eat and yoshi is seen sticking his tongue out and enemies such as flying galoombas and eeries can be seen on the machine, but the most defining feature has to be the red number 14 on the top right of the machine. Then comes tori Mario and it is just cape Mario flying. That's what it looks like. Shiny pika Mario is the hardest of these to find, but koopas, yoshis, bowsers, peaches and Marios are used for the pictures and it looks like a slot machine. To the game's right but your left is a set of stairs. To the game's left but your right is a sailor moon arcade game. The last 2 @yamapen3 found were the Mario version of super Mario ride and the yoshi version of super Mario ride. And according to a couple of videos each showing a version of the battery car ride, the descriptions say they both came out in 1993. For Google images, the Mario version is a yellow battery car and it has a red M inside a white circle in the center of the ride as well as a tiny figure of Mario on the top. The yoshi version is green because it is yoshi's body and on it are a galoomba, a toad with a candy cane-like pattern on his top and a speckled mushroom growing on that top. The game called super Mario FX, which was cancelled has a page on the Nintendo fandom powered by wikia. But the rest of the games are on the super Mario wiki and are even in the list of unreleased media. Super Mario 64 shindou edition is the actual name of super Mario 64 shindou version and an article of the update can be found on a website called N64 today. I think that is all. Lord Falafel (talk) 14:00, May 18, 2019 (EDT)

... Wow.
We actually already have a page for Nintendo Arcade and most of the Flash games there. We also have a Play Nintendo article. Both could use some finishing touches. There's also Super Mario Bros. (pinball), but we don't appear to have articles for the other too. I'm not finding the Super Mario World Game Watch page you say we have.
The Satellaview article covers what you said. Mario's Time Machine and Super Mario 64 cover both versions of the game (Deluxe and Shindou). The Nintendo Super System, we don't appear to have.
I don't have time to look over the list of arcades you gave, but I know we have the Mario Party ones.
Super Mario FX doesn't exist, never has. It was the codename for the FX chip itself.
We also cover the Peach's Castle (tech demo). Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 14:03, May 18, 2019 (EDT)

To add to that, the super Mario world game watch is called by the list of games featuring Mario super Mario brothers 4. So, it's there. It doesn't have it's own page, but it's on that Wikipedia. If you're having trouble finding the super Mario world watch on the list of games organized by system, it's 1 of the 2 games in the "game watch" section in the "other" category after mobile and before references. It's also in the toys category in the list of merchandise. Yes, peach's castle the 2001 tech demo exists, but a game watch by Nelsonic was released 11 years before that with a similar name, princess toadstool's castle run. If you don't have time to add all those games right now, that's fine. But please, with all due respect, add them all when you do have time. As for super Mario FX, ok. Fair enough. And some bonus information I didn't add earlier that I thought I could add now, super Mario 128 has a super Mario wiki page as well. Earlier I only told you about the demo, but I didn't add a source. Thank you very much for reading my messages and giving me time to do all of this. It took a lot of effort and time out of my day. I'm so happy to help the Mario community. If I find anymore information about any of the games I sent you or find additional games, I will send another message. Lord Falafel (talk) 15:06, May 18, 2019 (EDT)

@Alex95, I wrote the Nintendo Arcade page and IT'S PERFECT >:( -- ByeGuy1.png ByeGuy.png ByeGuy2.png 17:38, May 18, 2019 (EDT)

Not to offend you, bye guy but there is 1 flaw. A few games are in red and no pages have been written for those games. Other than that, I think it's a very well written page. All I want is for all the games I sent to be put on the list of games organized by system. If Alex95 says the Nintendo arcade page needs touching up, it probably does. I don't know. I just find obscure games and archive them in a couple of physical notebooks. I hope I didn't offend you and if I did, i'm sorry. Just trying to help. Tell me, please. What do you think of my finds? Lord Falafel (talk) 18:51, May 18, 2019 (EDT)

You are not offending me in any way, don't worry :) Those red links have no pages because I could not find anything about those games on the internet other than their names. Otherwise, I would have written pages for them like I did with the other Nintendo Arcade games. Also, I love reading about obscure Mario media as much as the guy next door, so I'm glad you're attempting to bring them to the surface! -- ByeGuy1.png ByeGuy.png ByeGuy2.png 19:00, May 18, 2019 (EDT)

Bye guy, super Mario bros (pinball) the pinball machine by Gottlieb used to be on the list of games organized by system and it got removed. There was no reason for that. And the sequel called super Mario bros mushroom world is still on that list. That makes even less sense. Please get it back and tell them to keep it on the list. Lord Falafel (talk) 15:15, May 19, 2019 (EDT)

Credible source[edit]

I don't know if you guys know about this topic on this site or the site itself, but it has some pretty useful and accurate looking information. It's called beta & cancelled Mario videogames - unseen64 Lord Falafel (talk) 11:06, June 10, 2019 (EDT)

Citations[edit]

I don't know why you're all asking me for citations for both mini piccadilly Mario games and both versions of super Mario ride after I put them in one of my first comments to Alex95 and even if he didn't have time to look at them, they were available to everyone. But, here you go. The sources for the mini piccadilly Mario games come from the Konami forum of a collection of forum posts involving obscure Mario and donkey kong games called arcade coverage marioboards, the Mario forum. The other 3 are sunwise (who made swanky's bonus slots), fabtek (who made the super Mario world redemption game) and banpresto (who made a boatload of Mario games). The source for both versions of super Mario ride is from a Twitter account called @yamapen3 and they have archived many Japanese exclusive arcade games that are super obscure. Their finds are viewable on Twitter, Google images and their own YouTube channel, which I can't give you because I don't speak Japanese. But their profile pictures on their Twitter and YouTube accounts are of the yo-kai watch anime characters known as Lily Adams and Katie Forester. Sometimes, some games they preserved on Google images can be quite challenging to find, but if you look up "@yamapen3 Mario" on Google images, you might easily find all of the Mario stuff by banpresto that isn't on any of the super Mario boards forums. If you need to know what those games are, let me know. The Mario version of super Mario ride is a yellow battery car with a tiny Mario figure on top and on the front, there's a white circle that has a red M in the middle. The yoshi version is a green battery car and it's yoshi's body with a galoomba, a toad head and a candy cane-like patterned mushroom on its left and the mushroom is growing out of the toad head's top. One of @yamapen3's YouTube channel's videos has a description that says both versions came out in 1993. Lord Falafel (talk) 20:12, June 14, 2019 (EDT)