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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so (not, e.g., "I like this idea!").
  • All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
  • For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

How to

Rules

  1. If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
  2. Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option on proposals with more than two choices.
  3. Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for writing guidelines and talk page proposals, which run for two weeks (all times GMT).
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
  5. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
    • Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
  6. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
  7. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
  8. Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  9. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of the total number of voters must appear in a single voting option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
  10. If a proposal with only two voting options has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all.
  11. Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
  12. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
  13. If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
  14. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation (six days for talk page proposals). However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
  15. Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
  16. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
  17. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
  18. Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.

Basic proposal and support/oppose format

This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.


===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "May 5, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====


Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".

Talk page proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.

For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.

Rules

  1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPPDiscuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{SettledTPP}}.
  2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
  3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one (all times GMT).
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.
  5. When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.

List of ongoing talk page proposals

Unimplemented proposals

Proposals

Merge the Wrecking Crew and VS. Wrecking Crew phases into list articles, Axis (ended February 24, 2022)
Do not consider usage of classic recurring themes as references to the game of origin, Swallow (ended March 9, 2022)
Split Mario Kart Tour character variants into list articles, Tails777 (ended May 4, 2022)
Enforce WCAG Level AA standards to mainspace and template content, PanchamBro (ended May 29, 2022)
Change how RPG enemy infoboxes classify role, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 18, 2022)
Trim away detailed special move information for all non-Mario fighters, Koopa con Carne (ended January 30, 2023)
Classify the Just Dance series as a guest appearance, Spectrogram (ended April 27, 2023)
Establish a standard for long course listings in articles for characters/enemies/items/etc., Koopa con Carne (ended June 8, 2023)
Consider filenames as sources and create redirects, Axis (ended August 24, 2023)
Add tabbers to race/battle course articles, GuntherBB (ended November 18, 2023)
Remove elemental creatures categories from various Super Mario RPG enemies, Swallow (ended January 11, 2024)
Standardize the formatting of foreign and explanatory words and phrases in "Names in other languages" tables, Annalisa10 (ended February 7, 2024)
Merge Super Mario Bros. (film) subjects with their game counterparts, JanMisali (ended April 18, 2024)
Remove profiles and certain other content related to the Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia from the wiki, Koopa con Carne (ended April 30, 2024)

Talk page proposals

Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021)
Split the various reissues of Mario Bros., Doc von Schmeltwick (ended April 22, 2022)
Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022)
Expand source priority exception to include regional English differences, LinkTheLefty (ended January 14, 2023)
Add product IDs in game infoboxes, Windy (ended March 18, 2023)
Remove the list of Super Smash Bros. series objects, Axis (ended May 10, 2023)
Merge Start Dash with Rocket Start, Koopa con Carne (ended August 17, 2023)
Use italics for the full title of the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass, Hewer (ended September 15, 2023)
Split Special Shot into separate articles by game, Technetium (ended September 30, 2023)
Convert the lists of episode appearances for television series characters into categories, Camwoodstock (ended November 22, 2023)
Decide which series certain Yoshi games are related to, GuntherBB (ended December 14, 2023)
Change the Super Mario 64 DS level section to include more specific character requirements, Altendo (ended December 20, 2023)
Replace "List of Game Over screens" and "'Game Over' as death" sections with a "History" section, DrippingYellow (ended December 20, 2023)
Split the Jungle Buddies from Animal Friends, DrippingYellow (ended December 22, 2023)
Make major changes to the MarioWiki:Links page, PnnyCrygr (ended January 10, 2024)
Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)
Merge the "Johnson" running gag into one page, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)
Merge the ghost Bats and Mice from Luigi's Mansion to their respective organic counterparts from the later games, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 20, 2024)
Split Strobomb from Robomb, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 20, 2024)
Split the NES and SNES releases of Wario's Woods, SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (ended March 27, 2024)
Merge Mii Brawler, Mii Swordfighter, and Mii Gunner to Mii, TheUndescribableGhost (ended March 28, 2024)
Merge Masterpieces to the Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U articles, Camwoodstock (ended March 31, 2024)
Split Mario's Time Machine (Nintendo Entertainment System), or the Super Nintendo Entertainment version along with both console versions of Mario is Missing!, LinkTheLefty (ended April 11, 2024)
Rename Beanstalk to Vine, DrippingYellow (ended April 11, 2024)
Remove non-Super Mario content from Super Smash Bros. series challenges articles, BMfan08 (ended May 3, 2024)
Merge Stompybot 3000 with Colonel Pluck, DrippingYellow (ended May 4, 2024)

List of talk page proposals

Unimplemented proposals

# Proposal User Date
1 Create boss level articles for Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Land series
Notes: The DK: King of Swing and DK: Jungle Climber boss levels, while not explicitly covered by this proposal, should receive the same treatment. All Donkey Kong Land boss levels have been created.
Aokage (talk) January 3, 2015
2 Create a template for the Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door badge drop rates Lord Bowser (talk) August 17, 2016
3 Expand the Behemoth King article Owencrazyboy9 (talk) December 23, 2017
4 Decide how to cover recurring events in the Mario & Sonic series BBQ Turtle (talk) July 17, 2018
5 Allow ports of games with substantial new content to be split from the parent articles Waluigi Time (talk) July 23, 2018
6 Create pages with renditions of recognizable music themes Super Radio (talk) November 16, 2018
7 Create articles on Play Nintendo games Obsessive Mario Fan (talk) June 23, 2019
8 Reorganize Map LudwigVon (talk) July 17, 2019

Writing guidelines

None at the moment.

New features

None at the moment.

Removals

None at the moment.

Changes

Add RARS to Template:Ratings

RARS is Russian Age Rating System. There are already Mario games that have been classified by this system. So why not add it to the template? Sorry for my bad English. Update: Looks like we need to add GRAC and GSRR too.

Proposer: Revilime (talk)
Deadline: July 19, 2019, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Revilime (talk) Per my proposal.
  2. Bazooka Mario (talk) Да, we already cover other age ratings, why not this one?
  3. Delfino4 (talk) Also GRAC (S. Korea) and GSRR (Taiwan) should be added.
  4. Trig Jegman (talk) no reason not to, methinks
  5. Mister Wu (talk) Since we already cover many age ratings, it makes sense to cover this one as well
  6. Niiue (talk) Per all.
  7. TheDarkStar (talk) - Per all.
  8. Toadette the Achiever (talk) За все, especially Delfino4.
  9. Doomhiker (talk) Per all.
  10. Obsessive Mario Fan (talk) Per all.
  11. Baby Luigi (talk) Ладно, почему бы и нет.
  12. Lord Grammaticus (talk) Per all.
  13. MarioManiac1981 (talk) Per all.
  14. JoeRunner (talk) Per all.
  15. Power Flotzo (talk) Per all.
  16. FanOfYoshi (talk) Пер Бейби Луиджи.
  17. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per all.
  18. YoshiFlutterJump (talk) Per all. There isn't any real reason to include the ratings of some countries but not others.
  19. Owencrazyboy9 (talk) Per all.
  20. Supermariofan67 (talk) Per all.

Oppose

Comments

How isn't it distinct from it? --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 12:12, July 12, 2019 (EDT)

Also, this is going to be very very hard to do, heres a list, don’t get mad if I miss anything or get it out of order, I am doing my best..., no dk on this list:
  • Donkey kong
  • Donkey Kong Jr.
  • Mario Bros.
  • Super Mario Bros.
  • Super Mario Bros. 2: The Lost Levels
  • (Yume Kōjō: Doki Doki Panic) Super Mario Bros. 2
  • Super Mario Bros. 2 USA
  • Super Mario Bros. 3
  • Super Mario Land.
  • Super Mario World
  • Super Mario Kart
  • Super Mario Land 2. 6 Golden Coins
  • Super Mario RPG
  • Super Mario 64
  • Paper Mario
  • Mario Kart 64
  • Mario Party
  • Mario Party 2
  • Mario Party 3
  • Luigi’s Mansion
  • Etc...
  • Do you get the point??? But, I am Joining because we need all ratings. [-]€40 vv@(talk · edits)Hyperluigi.gif 12:21, July 12, 2019 (EDT)

RARS was created in 2012. So, only games released after that have RARS rating, I think.--Luma Reviilime (talk · edits) 12:36, July 12, 2019 (EDT)

Moreover, Nintendo didn't actually localize any games into Russian until the release of the Switch. Also, the specific RARS you refer to doesn't have its own Wikipedia article, so how do you plan to rectify that issue? Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 12:41, July 12, 2019 (EDT)
1. Nintendo started localizing into Russian after 3DS release (SM3DL was first)
2. There's only in Russian language. Also, in Microsoft Store you need to write rating in RARS too [1]. Xbox page - [2] --Luma

Reviilime (talk · edits) 13:01, July 12, 2019 (EDT)

@FanOfYoshi heh I appreciate inputting my name in Cyrillic but ignoring that Baby Luigi is actually called Малыш Луиджи, my name romanized would actually be spelled Бейби Луиджи. It was pretty close though! BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 14:09, July 16, 2019 (EDT)

Create a Mario Party 11 redirect

This may sound kind of stupid, but I'm sure that there are people out there who'll automatically assume that Super Mario Party is called Mario Party 11. Super Mario Party is the eleventh Mario Party title to come out on a home console, and thus, when compared to the overall Mario Party series of 25 games, it's the 11th main game, due to the other 14 installments being either handheld or arcade. Harkening to the Mario Kart games, Super Mario Kart-Mario Kart Wii have redirects numbered 1-6. If the first six Mario Kart games warrant numbered redirects, then I really don't see why Super Mario Party cannot be treated in the same manner.

Proposer: MarioManiac1981 (talk)
Deadline: July 20, 2019, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. MarioManiac1981 (talk) Per proposal.
  2. TheDarkStar (talk) - Per proposal.
  3. Scrooge200 (talk) - Per proposal
  4. Toadette the Achiever (talk) Per proposal, especially Scrooge200's findings.
  5. FanOfYoshi (talk) I don't see why not. There was a counterproposal to restore the fan-made Mario Party redirects.
  6. Niiue (talk) Per all.
  7. Doomhiker (talk) Per all.
  8. Obsessive Mario Fan (talk) Per all.
  9. Trig Jegman (talk) per all
  10. JoeRunner (talk) Per all.
  11. Power Flotzo (talk) Sure, per all.
  12. BBQ Turtle (talk) Per all, this makes sense.
  13. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per all.
  14. YoshiFlutterJump (talk) Per all above votes and my proposal about the Mario Kart redirects.
  15. Alex95 (talk) - I was initially against it, having had to delete the redirect when it was initially created. But since Birdo actually calls it the eleventh party in-game, per proposal.
  16. Partier (talk) I tried to do this before, but since I saw this, I am happy the redirect will return. Per proposal.
  17. Supermariofan67 (talk) Per all.

Oppose

Comments

Here's the proposal in question in case anyone wants to view it before voting here. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 00:08, July 14, 2019 (EDT)

Super Mario Party does refer to itself as "the 11th party" in-game. Scrooge200 (talk) PMCS Mustard Cafe Sign.png 00:14, July 14, 2019 (EDT)

Does someone know what is the corresponding Japanese text, by the way?--Mister Wu (talk) 11:32, July 14, 2019 (EDT)

Add when the {{Just released}} and {{New subject}} should be removed, while slightly rewording the former template

Just recently there has been discussion regarding when the {{New subject}} template should be removed. While Alex95 said that the template should be removed after a month, the template, and its own page, says nothing about a date where it should be removed. In fact, it says "When the game is released, or more information about this subject is found, this article may need major rewriting. Remove this only when the changes have been applied.". So basically, it says that as long as the proper changes/info have been added about the new subject, the template can be removed, thus you can technically remove the template day one per the template, and as the template says that the template should only be removed once the changes are made technically the template can be on a page for years, if the changes are not made. So it is very easy to see how users can be confused on how long the template should last, and the current wording for removal should be reworded, as the template should be an alert for new subjects that are longer than one day old, but not years old. Plus it cannot hurt to specify when the template should be removed, to clear confusion. So, I propose to add a sentence and to reword the New subject template to specify when to remove the template, and the specification will also apply to the Just released template.

This is how the templates should look like after this proposal passes, if it does:

This article is about a game that has just been released. Major changes should be made by a contributor who has a reliable source. This template should be removed after a month has passed since the game was first released.

This article is about a subject in an upcoming or recently released game. When the game is released, or more information about this subject is found, this article may need major rewriting. This template should be removed after a month has passed since the game was first released.

The templates' pages will also include the date of removal.

Proposer: Doomhiker (talk)
Deadline: July 24, 2019, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Doomhiker (talk) Per proposal.
  2. FanOfYoshi (talk) Agreed, although, that could be done on the template's talk page.
  3. Obsessive Mario Fan (talk) Per proposal.
  4. Scrooge200 (talk) I always confused these. Per proposal.
  5. Owencrazyboy9 (talk) Per all.
  6. Toadette the Achiever (talk) Strong support as another obstacle in the policy's elaborate reasoning to clear up.
  7. Lord Grammaticus (talk) Don't see why not. Per all.
  8. EDShoot (talk) Makes perfect sense to me. Per all.

Oppose

Comments

@FanOfYoshi I done it on this page due to it affecting two templates. I would much rather one proposal then two dealing with near-identical matters. Doomhiker (talk)Artwork of a Topmini from Super Mario Galaxy 13:22, July 17, 2019 (EDT)

Ok. --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 13:26, July 17, 2019 (EDT)
I always remove these templates two weeks after a game is first released, but OK. MarioManiac1981 (talk) 0:08, July 18, 2019 (EST)

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.