Talk:Party Ball (item)

Merge?

I think enough time has passed to finally talk about this again. Spectrogram (talk) 09:36, February 15, 2023 (EST)

It should be merged specifically with Coin Bag (Super Princess Peach), in my opinion. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 10:56, February 15, 2023 (EST)

That's not at all the same Spectrogram (talk) 11:28, February 15, 2023 (EST)

Considering these are all based on the same real object, I wouldn't be opposed to merging this and the SPP Coin Bag to Party Ball. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 11:47, February 15, 2023 (EST)

With...Coin Bag? No, no, it should just go on the list. Cosmic Cowboy was here 11:05, February 15, 2023 (EST)

What's wrong with merging the round Japanese piñatas that open like Pac-Man together with each other? Especially since "coin bag" is non-descriptive conjecture? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:38, February 15, 2023 (EST)

Merge with "List of Super Smash Bros. series items"

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Do not merge 2-5
The Party Ball item hasn't appeared in any Super Mario game outside of the Super Smash Bros. series. I was humbly wondering if there's a possibility to merge this page with the list of Super Smash Bros. series items.

Proposer: GuntherBB (talk)
Deadline: February 23, 2024, 23:59 GMT Extended to March 1, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. GuntherBB (talk) Per proposal
2. Hewer (talk) Per my misplaced vote on this proposal as to why I don't think a merge with the other Party Ball(s) is a good idea. I don't see a problem with putting this on the Smash item list though, my best guess as to why it's not there already is that it can have a ton of Bob-ombs in it but that feels a bit tenuous when all the other container items in Smash can contain Mario items too.

Oppose

1. Waluigi Time (talk) Makes more sense to merge with Party Ball in my opinion, especially since there's an ongoing proposal to expand that page's scope. They're both based on the same real life object with no meaningful difference.
2. Camwoodstock (talk) Per Waluigi Time--we'd prefer a merge to Party Ball, since as it stands, we currently have three unique articles for the same generic object.
3. MegaBowser64 (talk) D’accord avec tous (Per all)
4. Archivist Toadette (talk) Per Waluigi Time. See Beehive as an example of this.
5. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - Indeed.

Comments

Given the opposition, I am now more perplexed than ever that everyone supported the split of the Super Smash Bros. CD from the Wario Land 4 CD. I mean yeah, the Wario Land 4 CDs are called Time CDs in Japan, but as I previously stated in that proposal, both CDs still have the same purpose and don't have any different functions. If these aren't allowed to be merged, then why do we keep the Super Smash Bros. Beehive merged in our Beehive article when the SSB one is clearly from Animal Crossing instead of anything Mario related? rend (talk) (edits) 12:48, February 26, 2024 (EST)

Yeah, I definitely think Beehive should get the same treatment as CD, it's hard to argue it's meant to be generic when it's very clearly presented as being from Animal Crossing. And again I bring up food and fan not being on articles about all food or all paper fans. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 15:25, February 26, 2024 (EST)

Lang-of-Orig names matter to some of us. Also, 8-5 support is not an overwhelming majority. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:24, February 26, 2024 (EST)

Honestly, Smash's CDs being presented as original objects completely separate to any other thing would've made me support that proposal even without the Japanese name difference. Having Japanese name and absolutely nothing else decide things in these cases is a bit silly when Smash is basically giving us official statements that its items are their own thing (and the English names are also the same anyway so it's not an origin vs. localisation thing). Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 18:46, February 26, 2024 (EST)