MarioWiki:Proposals
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November 6, 2026, 14:54 (UTC) |
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If you would like to get feedback on an idea before formally proposing it here, you may do so on the proposals talk. For talk page proposals, you can discuss the changes on the talk page itself before creating the TPP there.
How to
If someone has an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with other users, who will then vote on whether or not they think the idea should be implemented. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a detailed description of the proposed changes and may link to a draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
Rules
- Only autoconfirmed users may create or vote on proposals. Proposals can be created by one user or co-authored by two users.[Proposal 1]
- Anyone is free to comment on proposals (provided that the page's protection level allows them to edit).[Proposal 2]
- Proposals conclude at the end of the day (23:59) two weeks after voting starts (all times UTC).[Proposal 3][Proposal 4]
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is two weeks later on Monday, August 15, at 23:59 (UTC).
- Proposals cannot contradict an already ongoing proposal or overturn the decision of a previous proposal that concluded less than four weeks (28 days) ago.
- Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. "Oppose", "Do nothing") unless the status quo itself violates policy.
- Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available. Keep in mind that we use approval voting, so all of your votes count equally regardless of preferred order.[Proposal 5]
- Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is acceptable (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
- Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote(s) at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the wiki staff.
- Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
- If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(blocked)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
- If one week before a proposal's initial deadline, the first place option is ahead of the second place option by eight or more votes and the first place option has at least 80% approval, then the proposal concludes early. Wiki staff may tag a proposal with "Do not close early" at any time to prevent an early close, if needed.
- Tag the proposal with {{early notice}} if it is on track for an early close. Use {{proposal check|early=yes}} to perform the check.
- Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM". The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
- If a proposal reaches its deadline and there is a tie for first place, then the proposal is extended for another week.
- If a proposal reaches its deadline and the first place option is ahead of the second place option by three or more votes, then the first place option must have over 50% approval to win. If the margin is only one or two votes, then the first place option must have at least 60% approval to win. If the required approval threshold is not met, then the proposal is extended for another week.
- Use {{proposal check}} to automate this calculation; see the template page for usage instructions and examples.
- Proposals can be extended a maximum of three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, then the proposal fails and cannot be re-proposed until at least four weeks after the last deadline.
- After a proposal passes, it is added to the appropriate list of "unimplemented proposals" below and is removed once it has been sufficiently implemented.[Proposal 6]
- The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer should ask for that help. Proposals that result in changes to policy pages or general guidelines must be cited accordingly.[Proposal 7]
- All proposals are archived. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived, including their date of cancellation.[Proposal 8]
- Proposals can only be rewritten or canceled by their proposer within the first four days of their creation. If a proposer cancels their own proposal, they must provide a reason and wait three days before submitting any new proposal.[Proposal 9]
- A proposer cannot cancel their proposal and then implement it anyway. Only wiki staff can cancel a proposal and immediately put it into effect.
- Proposers can request their proposal be canceled by a wiki staff member after the self-cancellation cutoff, but they must provide a valid reason for doing so. In most cases, the proposal should simply run its course.
- If the wiki staff deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to cancel it at any time.
- Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting, or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
- Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Staff changes are discussed internally and carried out by the bureaucrats.
- No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
Proposal formatting
Copy and paste the formatting below to get started; your username and the proposal deadline will automatically be substituted when you save the page. Update the bracketed variables with actual information, and be sure to replace the whole variable including the square brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information" and not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but the objective(s) of each voting option must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}}<br>
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 (UTC)
====[option title (e.g. Support, Option 1)]: [brief summary of option]====
#{{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.
====[option title (e.g. Oppose, Option 2)]: [brief summary of option]====
====Comments ([brief proposal title])====
Autoconfirmed users will now be able to vote on your proposal. Remember that you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.
To vote for an option, just insert #{{user|[your username here]}} at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can simply say "Per proposal".
Poll proposal formatting
As an alternative to the standard proposal format, users may choose to create a poll proposal when one larger issue can be broken down into multiple subissues that can be resolved independently of each other.[Proposal 10] Poll proposals concerning multiple pages must have good justification for using the poll proposal format rather than individual talk page proposals or else will be canceled (for example, in the case of the princesses poll proposal, there are valid consistency concerns which make it worthwhile to consider these three articles simultaneously, but for routine article size splits, there is no need to abandon using standard TPPs for each).
In a poll proposal, each option is essentially its own mini-proposal with a deadline and suboption headings. A poll proposal can have a maximum of 15 options, and the rules above apply to each option as if it were its own proposal: users may vote on any number of options they wish, and individual options may close early or be extended separately from the rest. If an option fails to achieve quorum or reach a consensus after three extensions, then the status quo wins for that option by default. If all options fail, then nothing will be done.
To create a poll proposal, copy and paste the formatting below to get started; your username and the option deadlines will automatically be substituted when you save the page. Update the bracketed variables with actual information, and be sure to replace the whole variable including the square brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information" and not "[This is the inserted information]".
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}}
====[option title (e.g. Option 1)]: [brief summary of option]====
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 (UTC)
;Support
#{{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.
;Oppose
====[option title (e.g. Option 2)]: [brief summary of option]====
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 (UTC)
;Support
#{{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.
;Oppose
====[option title (e.g. Option 3)]: [brief summary of option]====
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 (UTC)
;Support
#{{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.
;Oppose
====Comments ([brief proposal title])====
For the purposes of the ongoing proposals list, a poll proposal's deadline is the latest deadline of any ongoing option(s). A poll proposal is archived after all of its options have settled, and it is listed as one single proposal in the archive. It is considered to have "passed" if one or more options were approved by voters (resulting in a change from the status quo), and it is considered to have "failed" if all options were rejected by voters and no change in the status quo was made.
Relevant discussions
- ^ Proposal "Allow co-authorship of proposals" (passed on January 24, 2025)
- ^ Proposal "Allow unregistered users to comment under talk page proposals" (passed on November 14, 2024)
- ^ Proposal "Proposals Should End At The end of the day one week after voting starts (In UTC)" (passed on March 3, 2010)
- ^ Proposal "Revise how long proposals take: "IT'S ABOUT (how much) TIME (they take)"" (passed on October 16, 2024)
- ^ Proposal "Vote For More Than One Option On Proposals With More Than Two Choices" (passed on May 10, 2016)
- ^ Proposal "Delete Links to Passed Talk Page Proposals ONLY Until Action Has Been Taken" (passed on May 2, 2013)
- ^ Proposal "Cite relevant proposals and discussions on policy pages and guidelines" (passed on October 17, 2024)
- ^ Proposal "Include the date a proposal was withdrawn within the proposal (when applicable)" (passed on September 9, 2017)
- ^ Proposal "Allow users to put a reason for canceling proposals" (passed on May 8, 2026)
- ^ Proposal "Introduce a new type of proposal" (passed on February 14, 2025)
Talk page proposals
Proposals concerning a single page or a limited group of pages are held on the most relevant talk page regarding the matter. All of the above proposal rules also apply to talk page proposals. Place {{TPP}} under the section's heading, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{settled TPP}}. Proposals dealing with a large amount of splits, merges, or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.
All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{ongoing TPP}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, the proposal author(s), and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links.
Talk page proposal formatting
==[insert a title for your proposal here]==
{{TPP}}
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}}<br>
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 (UTC)
===[option title (e.g. Support, Option 1)]: [brief summary of option]===
#{{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.
===[option title (e.g. Oppose, Option 2)]: [brief summary of option]===
===Comments ([brief proposal title])===
==[insert a title for your proposal here]==
{{TPP}}
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}}
===[option title (e.g. Option 1)]: [brief summary of option]===
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 (UTC)
;Support
#{{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.
;Oppose
===[option title (e.g. Option 2)]: [brief summary of option]===
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 (UTC)
;Support
#{{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.
;Oppose
===[option title (e.g. Option 3)]: [brief summary of option]===
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 (UTC)
;Support
#{{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.
;Oppose
===Comments ([brief proposal title])===
List of ongoing talk page proposals
Deletions
None at the moment.
Moves
None at the moment.
Merges
- Merge Goldfish Bowl to Helmet (Super Paper Mario) (discuss) by Wandering Poplin; Deadline: November 9, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
- Merge Flamethrower to Burner (discuss) by Camwoodstock; Deadline: November 15, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
Splits
- Overhaul present merchandise coverage (discuss) by Nelsonic; Deadline: November 11, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
- Split the Coleco Adam port of Donkey Kong Jr. (discuss) by Nelsonic; Deadline: November 11, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
- Create an infobox specifically for microgames (discuss) by Salmancer; Deadline: November 18, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
- Split physical appearances of Super Mario characters and objects from the Lists of references into a List of appearances in third-party media (discuss) by Nelsonic; Deadline: November 20, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
Miscellaneous
- Cover the Luigi's Mansion and Super Smash Bros. Melee Adobe Flash games on nintendogamecube.com (discuss) by Nelsonic; Deadline: November 10, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
- Move Donkey Kong 64 information on DK Coin to coin (generic) (discuss) by SolemnStormcloud; Deadline: November 11, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
- Add pronouns parameter to character infobox (discuss) by Reese Rivers; Deadline: November 16, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
- Determine the order of the "arrangement_of" and "quotes_from" parameters of theme infobox (discuss) by Yoshi18; Deadline: November 19, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
Unimplemented proposals
Proposals
| Break alphabetical order in enemy lists to list enemy variants below their base form, EvieMaybe (ended May 21, 2024) |
| Standardize sectioning for Super Mario series game articles, Nintendo101 (ended July 3, 2024) |
| Use the classic and classic link templates when discussing classic courses in Mario Kart Tour, YoYo (ended October 2, 2024) |
| Split major RPG appearances of recurring locations, EvieMaybe (ended December 16, 2024) |
| Retool the Names in other languages section into a more general etymology section, EvieMaybe (ended March 7, 2025) |
| Allow English Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia names to be mentioned on articles where they are not the title, Hewer (ended March 27, 2025) |
| Split every song from the "List of (show) songs" articles (Project portal), Zing Zang Zote (ended May 31, 2025) |
| Overhaul sponsor pages, Seandwalsh (ended June 26, 2025) |
| Reorganize recurring theme articles to use history sections (Project portal), Ahemtoday (ended July 2, 2025) |
| Make articles for the licensed songs in The Super Mario Bros. Movie (Project portal), Sargent Deez (ended September 17, 2025) |
| Create an article for Gourmandise, Sargent Deez (ended October 4, 2025) |
| End the use of "new course" and "classic course" as universal definitions within the Mario Kart series, Polley001 (ended January 26, 2026) |
| Make all release dates use individual flags (if possible), Yoshi18 (ended February 8, 2026) |
| Have game navboxes and categories cover all music appearances rather than just debuts (Project portal), Ahemtoday (ended February 20, 2026) |
| Create "recycled assets" sections for asset re-use, and move examples of asset re-use to those sections, Camwoodstock & Yoshi18 (ended March 5, 2026) |
| Prioritize whole integer upscaling for sprite displays, Scrooge200 (ended March 13, 2026) |
| Make an article for the New Super Mario Bros. series (Draft page), Yoshi18 & Sargent Deez (ended March 18, 2026) |
| Establish a consistent format for non-game enemy and obstacle lists, Illuminoid (ended March 22, 2026) |
| Decide how to handle reissues in the History sections of musical theme articles (Project portal), Wilben (ended May 22, 2026) |
| Settle how to convey shared names across dialects in "Names in other languages" tables, EvieMaybe (ended June 21, 2026) |
| List Nintendo Music soundtracks as separate appearances in appearance tables for musical theme articles (Project portal), Wilben (ended July 12, 2026) |
| Determine if certain "notable" versions of characters and species without their own articles should have their specific sections linked to, SolemnStormcloud (ended August 15, 2026) |
| Merge multiplayer variants of New Super Mario Bros. minigames, Remembered Old Buddy (ended August 29, 2026) |
| Introduce update history guidelines, B700465189a9 (ended September 24, 2026) |
| Remove duplicate files for identical sprites across Mario & Luigi Nintendo 3DS games, P-Tux7 (ended October 1, 2026) |
Talk page proposals
| Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024) |
| Allow separate articles for Diddy Kong Pilot (2003)'s subjects (Draft page), Doc von Schmeltwick (ended August 3, 2024) |
| Create articles for specified special buildings in Super Mario Run (Draft page), Salmancer (ended November 15, 2024) |
| Give the Cluck-A-Pop Prizes articles, Camwoodstock (ended January 31, 2025) |
| Split the Animal Crossing series (now Crossovers with Animal Crossing) (Draft page), Zing Zang Zote (ended February 12, 2025) |
| Restructure Yoshi's Island (series) article into Yoshi series, PopitTart (ended March 19, 2025) |
| Split Super Luigi subjects into a dedicated list article (Draft page), EvieMaybe (ended April 3, 2025) |
| Determine which subjects belong in Category:Aliens, Technetium (ended June 14, 2025) |
| Treat Pyoro as a series, janMisali (ended September 1, 2025) |
| Determine whether a Final Smash is one of a fighter's special moves, Salmancer (ended September 13, 2025) |
| Split Challenge, VS. Game/You VS. Boo, the Album and the Toy Box + its individual toys from Super Mario Bros. Deluxe, Snessy (ended December 23, 2025) |
| Decide whether to use title case in English meanings of foreign names where applicable when not present in the source language, PaperSplash (ended December 26, 2025) |
| Treat courses that debuted in Mario Kart Tour and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe as Mario Kart Tour and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe courses respectively, Polterpup (ended January 1, 2026) |
| Consider "LUCKY" misses from the Paper Mario series to be a game mechanic, Pizza Master (ended January 13, 2026) |
| Determine which clothing and other gear deserves individual articles, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 21, 2026) |
| Determine what qualifies as a game (and create appropriate categories in the process), SuperGamer18 (ended February 2, 2026) |
| Declare Super Smash Bros. - Gameplay & Quest for the amiibo! a guest appearance and delete Jack (Quest for the amiibo!), Salmancer (ended February 22, 2026) |
| Add music types to track tables (SSBU Sound Test) (Project portal), The Eggo55 (ended February 27, 2026) |
| Determine whether discontinued media counts as lost media, Pizza Master (ended February 28, 2026) |
| Make articles for the licensed songs in The Super Mario Galaxy Movie (Project portal), SuperGamer18 (ended April 3, 2026) |
| Clean up the Mini Boo page, Mr. Sorbetti (ended April 25, 2026) |
| Clarify the rules about unsigned comments, Illuminoid (ended June 27, 2026) |
| Create an article for the WarioWare, Inc. Official Site, Wilben (ended July 7, 2026) |
| Move Andrew Trego to "Andrew", move Andrew to "Andrew (disambiguation)", and make the Andrew Trego article about the actor, Rykitu (ended July 8, 2026) |
| Determine if and how the gear from Mario Strikers: Battle League should be split, Stache (ended August 14, 2026) |
| Convert Mario and Luigi's family, Mario's dad and Mario's mom articles into list pages, Snessy (ended October 3, 2026) |
| Give LEGO City Undercover its own article (Draft page), Snessy (ended October 6, 2026) |
Writing guidelines
None at the moment.
Removals
None at the moment.
Additions
Bring back Featured Images
Again and again, various users have made efforts to bring back Featured Images in the form of various proposals and talk page proposals, and all six of them failed. But I think FIs deserve to be revived, just like PipeProjects was five months ago. However, I completely understand how flawed the old way of doing things was. To fix that, I have come up with ways to fix them. First of all, instead of rotating every Thursday, the FIs will rotate every Saturday, similar to Featured Articles. There will also be a new Template:UpcomingFI similar to Template:UpcomingFA to keep track of the rotation. Next, if there are no new Featured images, then the rotation will start from the beginning, similar to FAs. Additionally, the FI archives will include all FI nominations, not just the ones that passed. One of the biggest problems with FI nominations were the questionable votes cast by users, which kept images such as this from passing and got images like this featured. I find it infuriating how someone could oppose an image just because "Who is Wiz Pig[sic]?" or "But it's not Maaaaario!" and support an image just because of "(no reason given)". Because of that, I think there should also be a "Removal of supports/opposes" option and a rule that somebody has to provide a reason with their vote, such as "I love the attention to detail on this image, like how Mario is standing there with Luigi and how Wario is standing over there with Toadette and Waluigi." or "Per ____", similar to FAs. Also, the rule saying that an image has to be on a mainspace page should be changed to include gallery pages, because a lot of cool images in galleries aren't on any mainspace pages because they don't need to be, but are still deserving of being featured on the Main Page. Speaking of the Main Page, I think the FIs should be placed where they were before: In between Did you know? and Mario & Nintendo news. Because the Latest Proposal and MarioWiki Community sections have been removed some time ago, the Featured Images, Community Poll, and The 'Shroom can safely coexist without the Main Page being too cluttered. I think that if the fixes I came up with are put into effect, there will be no problems with Featured Images going forward. Finally, a link to MarioWiki:Featured images will be added to the sidebar and Template:ToDoList would also keep track of FI nominations.
UPDATE: I forgot to mention it, but I also think there should be an image unfeaturing process as well, similar to Featured Articles.
Proposer: The Real Color Splash Fan (talk)
Deadline: November 14, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
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- The Real Color Splash Fan.png (talk) Per proposal.
Unfeature (Oppose)
- Mr. Sorbetti (talk) My issues with bringing this back are not mentioned here, and I haven't seen them in any previous proposal, so I am opposing again. My problem with bringing this back is that it is not helpful and does not serve a purpose as it stands. As presented, users are not featuring work or contributions made by other users; they are featuring things made 100% by Nintendo with no user effort, and I think that contradicts the principle of pipe projects or even featured pages, as those two things exist to make improvements to the wiki. Nitpicking which image made by Nintendo is better is neither helping nor achieving anything. Also, picking which images are better is most of the time purely subjective, as described by this very proposal. I've thought of ideas to improve this to maybe-MAYBE—bring it back, like featuring images made by users, such as renders or screenshots, instead of work directly done by Nintendo. All of this is as if we chose which article to feature based solely on how cool Nintendo made its appearances or history, instead of the actual effort put into the article by the users.
- Salmancer (talk) Okay great. We have a structure for Featured Images, and the lack of that was one of the arguments against Featured Images in the last proposal on the matter. But most of the other points of the opposition have gone unaddressed. There's still no sign of a rubric to measure images against, still no way to resolve the fact that the wiki will eventually run out of feature worthy images, and its still not highlighting the work of actual wiki users. Worse, I think the writing in this proposal isn't up to snuff, and my attempt to interpret it makes me think lower of the proposal.
The Main Page doesn't have Latest Proposal and MarioWiki Community sections to remove, for one thing. And if it means what I think it means, then there's no way we're removing The 'Shroom from its Main Page section to fit Featured Images.Also, per Mr. Sorbetti. - Wandering Poplin (talk) Per all on both this proposal, and the opposition on the last time someone made a proposal about this. Featured articles have a genuine purpose. Featured images... are pure fanon material. Nothing in this proposal has convinced me that this is worth restoring at all.
- Illuminoid (talk) Per all.
- Wilben (talk) Per all. This just doesn't seem to be worth the time and effort for the reasons stated above.
- Camwoodstock (talk) Per ourselves the last time this got proposed. We like the idea, but we need an actually cohesive plan for what images would be featured, or how to format it on the front page, or like, really anything beyond, "it'd be nice." And like. It would be nice! We don't want to give the impression that we think Featured Images are just a doomed concept! But this definitely should be planned out further before being proposed. Next time someone actually thinks to try to propose this, we'd recommend looking at how The Cutting Room Floor handles their Featured File section on their main page; we feel like we could get a lot out of adopting a similar format.
- Yoshi18 (talk) Per all.
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I want to spiritually revive this because Featured Images was the reason I'm even here at all but I will forever have a biased towards Featured Images as a concept.
Xiahou Ba(the Nasty Warrior) 00:25, November 1, 2026 (UTC)
One of the bigger reasons that reviving Featured Images was voted against was that the content weren't user generated. If there's an effort to focus more on rewarding the efforts of editors rather than spotlight works by Nintendo, it'll be more feasible. So far, I can think of only certain posed and lit 3D renders where some effort is involved into making one, or a photo of a scan of an obscure manga that can flex the wiki's depth of knowledge and can be helpful spotlighting but it's a pretty narrow field and not many people can really participate there. Just letting you know.
It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 00:44, November 1, 2026 (UTC)
- There's probably some room for really pretty screenshots (especially if Snapshot Modes keep appearing in more games), goofy screenshots (think Super Smash Bros. Congratulations and Challenge screenshots, but if users were making them), or demonstrations of glitches. Salmancer (talk) 00:52, November 1, 2026 (UTC)
- Sounds like an improvement. I like this idea a lot more than simply just trying to link to key art Nintendo has made. This old screenshot from Frozen Assets, or at least, its older name became a bit of a recurring joke by me in this community. I do hope it doesn't motivate people to try to take more outlandish screenshots at the expense of usefulness to try to get something featured, but if done in moderation, I don't see why people can't have some fun contributing to this wiki; it's good enough that people are motivated already.
It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 01:00, November 1, 2026 (UTC) - Would images such as these be considered feature-worthy under those standards? The Real Color Splash Fan
03:46, November 1, 2026 (UTC)
- Please don't link multiple things across a single word. Its really hard to find all of them. Anyhow, I'd say no to most of these. a Featured Image should have a fully complete aboutfile template that sufficiently explains the context of the image, and none of the glitch images linked do that. Text entry on its own isn't that interesting. Its goofy to make putting "MarioWiki" into text entry fields a running gag, but its not feature worthy on its own. I do think assembling "MarioWiki" out of disparate parts while still making it look appealing is a show of some amount of skill. Screenshots of funny dialogue don't appeal to me since everyone who has played the relevant game can see it. This results in me thinking that the three gifs and the MKWorld sticker file would be in the running for a potential Featured Image, but not any of the others. Salmancer (talk) 19:25, November 1, 2026 (UTC)
- Sounds like an improvement. I like this idea a lot more than simply just trying to link to key art Nintendo has made. This old screenshot from Frozen Assets, or at least, its older name became a bit of a recurring joke by me in this community. I do hope it doesn't motivate people to try to take more outlandish screenshots at the expense of usefulness to try to get something featured, but if done in moderation, I don't see why people can't have some fun contributing to this wiki; it's good enough that people are motivated already.
This feels like something more for the next spin at Featured Images than this spin, but we do need a convincing argument as to why Featured Images is a better section to add to the Main Page than an "Upcoming Games" section and/or an "Events" section. Again, sections like those are common on wikis but are not present on this wiki, and they represent an opportunity cost that Featured Images should really overcome if it is to return. Salmancer (talk) 02:41, November 1, 2026 (UTC)
Changes
Change how conjecturally named music articles are titled
Based on the vote so far, this proposal may be eligible to close one week early. Please use {{proposal check|early=yes}} on November 6, 2026 at 23:59 (UTC) and close the proposal if applicable.
Currently, ever since the wiki's policies were changed to allow for the creation of articles about musical themes without the need of officially confirmed names, those articles have been named without an identifier. This means that, for something such as Greenhorn Forest's theme, it is titled Greenhorn Forest's theme.
This proposal aims to change that, and came about after this discussion on the talk page for Lakeside Park's theme.
To try and summarize; I think that the titles of these pages should be changed because I see no reason why we shouldn't keep conjecturally named pages, even those for themes, consistent with officially named ones, since all doing otherwise serves to do is make things extremely confusing. I personally feel like the bare minimum for a conjectural name should be to have it be consistent with the official names Nintendo has given to similar things, and it is incredibly clear to me that this naming style is not that. For example, something like "Greenhorn Forest's theme" should be "Greenhorn Forest (theme)", because, based on how Nintendo names similar tracks officially, it's pretty clear that they wouldn't call it "Greenhorn Forest's theme" and would likely just call it "Greenhorn Forest". As well, it was pointed out several times in previous discussion that the fact that the title is conjectural is made incredibly clear by the already present conjectural title template.
Adding the "'s theme" suffix to the page name really just makes it wordier and inconsistent with the rest of the wiki. There have been arguments that it's better for avoiding using quotation marks, but I just don't agree; I feel like there are better other ways to avoid using quotation marks around the name that don't actively butcher the page's name in the process. I mean, realistically, the easiest way to do it would be to just do it the same way officially named pages do, but omitting the quotation marks so it doesn't imply it's offical.
It's like I said at the end of my paragraph in the previous discussion; it's incredibly telling that officially named musical theme pages, like "Waluigi Pinball" for example, don't have a conjectural title redirect for "Waluigi Pinball's theme", but most conjecturally named pages like this have a redirect with an identifier rather than the "'s theme" suffix.
I do wanna make it clear though that this proposal is not trying to argue that any and all pages with "'s theme" suffix should be moved to a name using the regular "(theme)" identifier. There are genuinely some pages that make sense to use it, such as Rambi's theme, where the theme is, quite literally, Rambi's theme, and it's consistent with other similar types of musical themes and how Nintendo officially names them.
The proposed change I have here is simple; move the pages that this proposal pertains to, and set the standard that all future conjecturally named theme pages should be kept consistent with officially named themes.
Being specific, if this proposal passes, these pages will be moved:
- Lakeside Park's theme to Lakeside Park (theme)
- Greenhorn Forest's theme to Greenhorn Forest (theme)
- Crescent Moon Village's theme to Crescent Moon Village (theme)
- Pinball Zone's theme to Pinball Zone (theme)
- Thwomp Volcano's theme to Thwomp Volcano (theme)
Additionally, if this proposal passes, a TPP will be started for World 2-3's theme on whether or not it should be moved to World 2-3 (theme), as it is in much more of a grey area than the rest of these pages.
Update (October 30, 2026): Per a comment by @The Dab Master; I have added moving World 2-3's theme to Bonus Area (Super Mario 3D Land) to the list of moves this proposal passing will make happen.
Update (October 31, 2026): While I still think the name from my previous update is good, there seems to be a kit of ideas getting thrown around in the comments for what the page's name should be, so I'm changing it so that, if this proposal passes, World 2-3 will be moved, but it will have it's own TPP to decide on the new name.
Update (November 2, 2026): While I was compiling my list of pages which are already adhering to this proposal's goals, which can be found in the comments, I came across a large number of articles which I accidentally missed when making this proposal which it will effect. And, while I have had a couple mentioned in the comments of this proposal up until now, the number is now big enough that I feel the need to edit the proposal to mention them loud and clear.
So, here is a further list of pages which will be moved if this proposal passes:
- Greenhorn Ruins' theme to Greenhorn Ruins (theme)
- Toad Highlands' theme to Toad Highlands (theme)
- Out of the Woods' theme to Out of the Woods (theme)
There are also some minor moves which will be done purely for consistency purposes:
- Castle theme (Super Mario 3D Land) to Castle Theme (Super Mario 3D Land)
- Unlock fanfare to Unlock Fanfare
Similar to Rambi's theme, Count Cannoli's theme will be unaffected due to the nature of it's title making sense for the subject.
Additionally, TPPs, similar to the one for World 2-3's theme, will be held for Remix 10 theme and Chain Chomp theme on where they'll be moved, albeit being much simpler. As well, while not being immediately moved or opening a TPP, discussions should be opened on what to do with and how to handle Nintendo Switch Parental Controls theme, Super Mario Bros. 3 snow theme, and Super Mario Bros. Ghost House theme. It should be noted that the location of Menu Theme will not be affected regardless of if this proposal passes or fails.
Proposer: Iand255 (talk)
Deadline: November 13, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
Support (theme)
- Iand255 (talk) Per proposal.
- Wilben (talk) It should also be noted how conjecturally-named commercial songs such as "Better Than Dirty" and "Kraft Macaroni & Cheese Presents..." both lack the "[subject]'s theme" naming and use quotations, so if those can get away with it, why not themes such as Greenhorn Forest's theme and Out of the Woods' theme?
- The Real Color Splash Fan (theme) The current way it's being done makes themes for locations that belong to a character such as Yoob's Belly's theme sound kind of weird. Per all.
- Ahemtoday (talk) Per proposal. I will say that I would find using quotation marks for these conjectural music titles odd, but I'm a noted opponent of doing that for music in general, so...
- Wandering Poplin's theme (talk) Per all. There is such a thing as "too generic", and this rather odd-looking inconsistency isn't really helping anything/anyone. In my opinion, at least.
- Arend (talk) This is more in line with how Nintendo names themes for locations and levels/stages, which are often just the name of said location, sometimes also with "Theme" added after, but almost NEVER in possessive form like the current format of "[NAME]'s theme" we currently use. That, is more common with character themes instead.
- Yoshi18 (theme) Per all.
- PaperSplash (talk) Per all.
Oppose's theme
#The Dab Master (talk) I think it's better to name a theme generically if it lacks an official title, and that generic name should always be used to refer to the theme, including the article title. If Castle theme (Super Mario 3D Land) names the theme generically, so should these articles. And writing "An arrangement of Greenhorn Forest plays…" just looks weird.
Comments (insert funny joke here)
I think a better name for World 2-3's theme would be "Bonus Area", as it serves a similar purpose to "Bonus Area" from New Super Mario Bros. Wii.
The Dab Master 11:56, October 30, 2026 (UTC)
- @The Dab Master That is a fair point, and I do agree; I will update the proposal to including moving that page as well.
IanD255 (talk 23:25, October 30, 2026 (UTC) - In my opinion, I disagree. I think the theme should be called "Coin Heaven / Retro area" because Coin Heavens are the bonus areas in Super Mario 3D Land and I think mentioning World 2-3 and Special 1-3 in the title is also necessary. The Real Color Splash Fan
23:42, October 30, 2026 (UTC)
@The Dab Master I mean, I don't see how saying "an arrangement of Greenhorn Forest..." is any different, let alone weirder, than saying "an arrangement of "Gusty Garden Galaxy"..." or "an arrangement of "Super Bell Hill"..."
Wilben
(talk • edits) 12:47, October 30, 2026 (UTC)
- @Wilben I as well. Regardless of if the name is conjectural or not, it is the currently accepted name. We're just not putting it in quotes to avoid insinuating that it's official, which is, as pointed out in your vote reasoning, also something worth rethinking.
IanD255 (talk 23:25, October 30, 2026 (UTC)
So, to clarify, conjectural location theme titles will follow the format "[NAME] (theme)", whereas conjectural character theme names will follow the format "[NAME]'s theme"; That's what this proposal is aiming for, right?
rend (talk) (edits) 13:49, October 30, 2026 (UTC)
- @Arend When boiled down to the bare essentials; yes, that is the gist of the baseline this proposal is attempting to try and establish. There will obviously be edge cases where a different decision can be made if the consensus is that it makes more sense another way for that specific page, but buy and large this is the format most pages will fit into.
IanD255 (talk 23:25, October 30, 2026 (UTC)
What if we use {{derived}} instead? I think it would fit better considering the reasoning of this proposal.
The Dab Master 15:38, October 30, 2026 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure that's not how derived names work. Derived names are about combining bits of a name from different sources (e.g. Comet Luma, Fire Incoming Chomp), which would not be applicable for Greenhorn Forest's theme or Out of the Woods' theme, as they lack official names altogether.
Wilben
(talk • edits) 16:02, October 30, 2026 (UTC)
- As pointed out by @Wilben, that's not how derivative names work. I would be open to classifying them under the term "derivative", but that would require change of the wiki's policies on derivatively named articles, an update to {{derived title}}, and some tweaks to the policy on conjectural names to account for the change in format on derivative titles; all of which are far beyond the scope of this proposal. For the moment, I am fine with leaving it as conjectural, and potentially coming back to the conversation of updating what it means to be a "derived title" later on. After all; there's no point in figuring out such a massive change before this proposal reaches a decision.
IanD255 (talk 23:25, October 30, 2026 (UTC)
If this proposal passes, will conjecturally named musical themes be allowed to use quotations? Like I said in my vote, multiple commercial songs such as "Better Than Dirty" and "Kraft Macaroni & Cheese Presents..." currently use quotations despite being conjectural.
Wilben
(talk • edits) 03:25, November 1, 2026 (UTC)
- While it wasn't initially on my mind to change it when making this proposal; now that I've been made aware of the standard these pages set for conjecturally named music, I think my answer is a solid yes. It makes it easier to talk about and refer to the theme anyway, as quotation marks have become a way around the wiki to signify that something is "a song".
IanD255 (talk 17:56, November 1, 2026 (UTC)
Music articles aren't my scene, but I don't like it when conjectural titles look like normal titles. I think it allows for confusing a conjectural title for a normal title. Salmancer (talk) 18:28, November 1, 2026 (UTC)
- @Salmancer I don't really agree. I'll be honest; the {{conjectural title}} template exists for a reason, and I feel like it is a very big and obvious indicator of an article's title being conjectural. I don't want to make it seem like I'm trying to discount the experiences of anyone who does get confused like this or anything, but, I feel like missing the notice at the top of the page and getting the name of the article confused for an officially confirmed one would take a significant amount of willful ignorance. To me, it feels similar to if someone didn't notice the infobox on a page; it's so big and prominent, I just can't see a world where that's actually a problem.
IanD255 (talk 21:37, November 1, 2026 (UTC) - My thoughts exactly. Surrounding a name in quotation marks feels like treating it as official, and the use of {{conjectural title}} doesn't really make that the case any less for me.
The Dab Master 16:43, November 2, 2026 (UTC)
- Personally, I see adding quotations as less of making it seem like an official name and more of indicating that it is a theme or song. Also, we can always just add the {{conjectural}} tag next to the theme's name when linking it (e.g. "An arrangement of "Greenhorn Forest"[conjectural] plays..."). And, if nothing else, this would make these themes consistent with the songs I've mentioned above that currently use quotations despite being conjectural.
Wilben
(talk • edits) 01:03, November 3, 2026 (UTC)
- Exactly how I see it. The quotes aren't so much an insinuation of legitimacy so much as they are a replacement for saying "a song named" or "the theme by the name" or whatever other convoluted ways there would be to refer to it while making it clear that it is a song. The way we use quotation marks for songs, to me, feels like their equivalent of game names being italicized; which, in the case of those, would probably be consistently italicized regardless of if a name is conjectural or not if it weren't for the fact that I can't think of a single instance of a game having a conjectural name.
IanD255 (talk 02:53, November 3, 2026 (UTC)
- Exactly how I see it. The quotes aren't so much an insinuation of legitimacy so much as they are a replacement for saying "a song named" or "the theme by the name" or whatever other convoluted ways there would be to refer to it while making it clear that it is a song. The way we use quotation marks for songs, to me, feels like their equivalent of game names being italicized; which, in the case of those, would probably be consistently italicized regardless of if a name is conjectural or not if it weren't for the fact that I can't think of a single instance of a game having a conjectural name.
- Personally, I see adding quotations as less of making it seem like an official name and more of indicating that it is a theme or song. Also, we can always just add the {{conjectural}} tag next to the theme's name when linking it (e.g. "An arrangement of "Greenhorn Forest"[conjectural] plays..."). And, if nothing else, this would make these themes consistent with the songs I've mentioned above that currently use quotations despite being conjectural.
Since it's continued to be talked about, I'd like to expand on @Wilben's list of conjecturally named musical themes which already didn't and don't follow the format that this proposal is attempting to get rid of:
- "Anyone Can Dance"
- "Baby, I'm Back!"
- "Be Bad!"
- "Being Together Forever"
- "Better Than Dirty"
- "Bluebeard Baboon's Curse of the Double Doubloon"
- "Bluster the Benevolent"
- Bowser Castle
- "Can You Ever Forgive Me?"
- "Castles & Forts BGM"
- "'Cause I'm Cranky"
- "Charades"
- "Club Mario"
- "Cranky's Gonna Show Ya"
- "Creeping"
- "Diddy to the Rescue"
- "Do You Know What This Means?"
- "Don't Lose Heart"
- "Feel the Power!"
- "Game Boy"
- "Game Over"
- "Gotta Get it Back!"
- "Have We Got a Deal?"
- "Head Games"
- "His Name is Donkey"
- "His Name is Kong"
- "Holograms"
- "I Got No Family Tree"
- "I Gotta Eat!"
- "I Haven't Got a Friend in the World
- "I Like Evil"
- "I'm Candy Kong's Clone"
- "I'm Leo Luster"
- "I'm Nobody's Hero"
- "I've Got it All!"
- "If I Wasn't Around"
- "Interplanetary Visitor Dudes"
- "Is There Someone I Can Truly Call a Friend?"
- "Just Remember Me"
- "Just Remember Who You Are"
- "Key Item Obtained"
- "Kongo Bongo Gone Wrongo"
- "Konnichiwa Super Famicom"
- "Kraft Macaroni & Cheese Presents..."
- "Let Me Go Back to My Home"
- "Listen to Funky"
- "Look Out, Baby Kong!"
- "Look Out, World ('Cause Here I Come!)"
- "Mario and Luigi"
- "Me Like You"
- "Metal Head"
- "Mixing Your Cares Away"
- "My Finest Hour"
- "My Wittle Evil One"
- "Mystic Oracle Summoning Chant"
- "Nintendo"
- "No One's Going to Make a Monkey Out of Me"
- "One of Us"
- "Our Love is Stronger Than a Golden Banana"
- "Over the Hill"
- "Reading the Letter"
- "Riches Galore (Let's Go!)"
- "San Francisco, New York"
- "Second Banana"
- "Something's Gumming Up the Plumbing"
- "Spellbound"
- "Super Mario
- "Super Mario RPG
- "Tell Me Everything"
- "That's Why He'd Rather Be With Me"
- "The Ape on a Mission"
- "The Banana Do-si-do"
- "The Big Bog Monster"
- "The Booty Boogie"
- "The Coconut is Cursed!"
- "The Curse of the Golden Banana"
- "The Diddy Drop Rap"
- "The Island of Kongo Bongo"
- "The Mirror Never Lies"
- "This Friendship is Wrong"
- "Vote for Me"
- "Wake Up!"
- "Watch the Skies"
- "We'll Always Be Friends!"
- "What Do You Love the Most?"
- "Why'd I Have to Fall for a Hero?"
- "With These Riches"
- "Yes Means No"
- "You'll Love the Crunch!"
It is also worth noting that the only song on this entire list which doesn't use quotation marks is Bowser Castle from Mario Kart DS, but that is an article that I personally made and deployed to mainspace, and can tell you that the only reason it doesn't is because it was deployed after I found about this strange new format that had come up, which, while I didn't agree with it and still don't, I did want to make sure I stayed consistent with until I could get around to making this proposal.
While most of these are from the extremely odd Donkey Kong Country television series, I think the most convincing of these are the songs from video games, those being "Castles & Forts BGM" from Yoshi's Island DS, "Game Over" from Paper Mario: Sticker Star, "Key Item Obtained" from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, "Reading the Letter" from Hotel Mario, and "San Francisco, New York" from Mario is Missing!.
Personally, seeing the sheer number of these makes it honestly baffling how this format which, as stated in my proposal, I think is highly unnecessary and confusing, picked up momentum to begin with.
IanD255 (talk 02:53, November 3, 2026 (UTC)
- For the record, out of all of these, I do believe "Reading the Letter" would have to be renamed to "Bowser's theme (Hotel Mario)", because it's simply a better, more encapsulating title for it. The theme also plays for the cutscene when Mario and Luigi are about to enter Bowser's Seizure Palace Hotel, which also uses an extended version of the theme as one of the three stage themes (the remaining two also happen to be arrangements of this theme. While its most well-known use is in fact when Mario reads Bowser's letter in the opening cutscene, "Reading the Letter" is a rather limiting title when you consider its overall use, as well as its intended use.
rend (talk) (edits) 10:19, November 4, 2026 (UTC)
Miscellaneous
Automatically handle deletion and link updating when categories are moved
When pages in the category namespace are moved, every page in that category is updated and the redirect is deleted to reflect the move. This task is either done manually or by requesting PorpleBot to do it. I propose that MarioWiki Bot automatically updates category links and deletes the leftover redirect anytime a category page is moved. This simplifies the process of moving a category. Moving most pages is a right restricted to established users, so vandalistic moves are unlikely. The (bot) user group must be given the necessary rights to enact this proposal.
Proposer: Illuminoid (talk)
Deadline: November 6, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
Support
#Illuminoid (talk) As proposer.
Partial Support: Only update links
- Wandering Poplin (talk) Primary vote. Per Arend.
- Arend (talk) Per what I stated in my oppose vote.
- Category:The Dab Master (talk) Per Arend.
- Wilben (talk) Per all.
- Salmancer (talk) Aside from what Arend said, I'm a little paranoid that an disgruntled established user could commit some not easily undone vandalism by taking advantage of how moving category pages would delete the source category. Best to leave deletion exclusively to the administrators and above. Also consider that MarioWiki:Deletion policy says "Don't delete pages unless you know how to undelete as well," and this change would allow people who can't undelete pages to delete pages.
- Yoshi18 (talk) Per all.
- Illuminoid (talk) Per Salmancer.
- Nelsonic (talk) Per.
Oppose
- Arend (talk) Auto-update redirect links left over from move? Yes please. Auto-delete said redirects? Eh, I don't think that's a good idea. In a lot of cases, pages get moved to new names because it's the most recent established name, not because the old name shouldn't have been used in the first place. Redirects are still useful for visitors to send them to the cirrect article, after all. Whenever a redirect left from a move DOES need to be deleted, it's usually an old filename, template title or a talk page title; and a redirect's usually left there because the user doesn't have the rights to not leave a redirect when moving (since that requires article deletion, which is something only admins can do, for obvious reasons)
- Wandering Poplin (talk) Secondary vote. Also per Arend.
Comments
@Arend I added an option to only update links, although many category redirects are deleted. --Illuminoid (talk) 12:58, October 23, 2026 (UTC)
How do I give the bot this ability? Is it a MediaWiki feature? --Steve (talk)
16:15, November 1, 2026 (UTC)
- I believe Pywikibot can react to a page move, check if the page is a category, and make the necessary text replacement. --Illuminoid (talk) 16:58, November 1, 2026 (UTC)