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Metal Mario (character)[edit]

Can you change all instances of [[Metal Mario (character)|Metal Mario]] to just [[Metal Mario]]? Thanks in advance. - RHG1951 (talk) 20:06, April 22, 2022 (EDT)


Hey I saw you were able to make it so infoboxes displayed the identifier-less title for pages with identifiers, without the need for the |title= parameter. How did you manage to do that exactly? (and does this mean we can get rid of |title= entirely?) Somethingone (talk) 06:38, April 25, 2022 (EDT)

I did this by deploying {{PAGETITLE}} as a drop-in replacement for {{PAGENAME}}. There's no need to get rid of the title parameter, as there are still some cases where it's needed, but those instances are now much rarer. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 09:07, April 25, 2022 (EDT)

Regarding the Mario Kart console abbreviation title thing[edit]

Okay, so I finally have a grasp on how I should argue for doing away with console abbreviations on titles of Mario Kart courses.

Take a look at this op-ed analysis by Ahemtoday (talk), where they argue, in summary, that the current titles for the variations of Mario Kart Tour courses returning in the Booster Course Pass are too confusing to use as article titles because a potential reader wouldn't guess that the article at, say, the Tokyo Blur title is actually one of four Mario Kart Tour variations, and that the article at the Tour Tokyo Blur title is for the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe variation.

I now realize that another good example comes to mind: the Donut Plains race courses from Super Mario Kart. Currently they're located at "SNES Donut Plains [number]", which is technically correct. However, there are also the articles located at "Donut Plains [number]" for the names of specific levels in Super Mario World. Since Super Mario World and Super Mario Kart are both SNES games, the "SNES" part could refer to either set of subjects, meaning they should receive proper disambiguation instead of forcing new readers to potentially do a double-take.

Thoughts worth considering perhaps. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 00:08, May 14, 2022 (EDT)

The {{about}} template solves both of these problems. If the user ends up in the wrong place, then the about template is the tool we use to guide them, and whether they're clicking on "Tokyo Blur (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)" or "Tour Tokyo Blur", "Donut Plains 1 (race course)" or "SNES Donut Plains 1", it isn't going to make a huge difference to them. But for our purposes, we certainly prefer to use the more-official name that appears in-game and in marketing materials than a wikified identifier name. It's really quite alright if the user has to read the about template or the first sentence of the article to figure out what's going on, that is valid and it's why we have the about template in the first place. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 01:58, May 14, 2022 (EDT)

Considering my own post is what (re)started this conversation in the first place, I feel a bit obligated to weigh in - although I only really have a firm stance on the MK8 Tour tracks and not Archivist Toadette's larger point. The reason I think this situation may warrant a deviation from convention is that this is the first time this prefix is being used to distinguish an article about a course's reappearance from its original appearance. While they are officially listed as Tour Tokyo Blur and Tour Paris Promenade, it's not in a context where it's used to set the course apart from its original. If anything, these course prefixes serve to highlight and describe the original. My point is: these two articles are using this naming scheme to disambiguate in a way it wasn't designed to, and in a way that it isn't used officially. I don't believe the result of this is ideal for the end user. Ahemtoday (talk) 03:50, May 14, 2022 (EDT)

Internal name template[edit]

Hey, is there a way to make the internal name template automatically apply <tt></tt> to the file parameter, like how it automatically italicizes the Japanese romanizations in the foreign name template? Somethingone (talk) 15:19, May 17, 2022 (EDT)

It's best not to, since if you need to include a reference, or some context such as parenthesis after the filename, that would get included in the <tt> as well. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 15:26, May 17, 2022 (EDT)

Question about image thumbnails[edit]

Do you know why thumbnails of JPG images look blurry, even when the image viewed at full size is not? Take my sandbox for example. The image on the bottom is just the image on the top converted to PNG, so it's not actually any different in quality than the JPG, yet the JPG (top) looks blurrier than the PNG (bottom) when thumbnailed. I don't know how it looks from your computer, but here's how it looks from mine (the difference is easier to notice when zoomed in, though it's there regardless) so you know what I'm talking about. Dark BonesSig.png 18:03, May 23, 2022 (EDT)

PNG tries to save every detail when generating thumbs, while JPG is heavily compressed and details are lost. That's also why there's a significant difference in the thumb file sizes. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 18:46, May 23, 2022 (EDT)

The second archive of Electrical Bowser jr. user talk[edit]

Hello Porplemontage. First off, I wanted to say thank you for merging my account into Electrical Bowser jr.. I would like to ask if you could restore my second page of user talk as Electrical Bowser jr., from later 2012 to 2013, as Archive 2.

Thanks, Electrical Bowser jr., 22:11, June 7, 2022 (EST)

Thank you again, since you did this. Electrical Bowser jr., 22:28, June 7, 2022 (EST)

My pleasure. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 22:40, June 7, 2022 (EDT)

Last request related to Electrical Bowser jr.[edit]

Hi Porplemontage, I greatly appreciate your work to merge my account back to Electrical Bowser jr.. The last thing was wondering was if you could merge my old 2012-2014 userpage history as Electrical Bowser jr. in to my account now, and if not, if you could create a separate page as an archive or something else for my userpage history almost a decade ago.

Have a good night and thanks for reading and your work, Electrical Bowser jr., 22:13, June 8, 2022 (EST)

Odd rewrite-expand templates[edit]

On pages such as the Kamek and Invincible Mario pages, the tag dates now appear as the reasons. Do you know why this is happening? Wario (Cowboy) from Mario Kart TourWildWario (talk) 03:34, June 11, 2022 (EDT)

He made some modifications to the tag’s template. Now you can add a reason in the first parameter (without the need of a “reason” variable) while the date parameter comes second. This caused the data in some tags to swap around. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 08:07, June 11, 2022 (EDT)

Text replacement[edit]

Hi. I noticed that we have 247 cases of ==Name in other languages==, which would normally be ==Names in other languages==. Would it be a good idea to replace them with a bot? --Dine2017 (talk) 10:42, July 26, 2022 (EDT)

Order of interwiki links[edit]

Hi. Is there any way to list the sidebar interwiki links in a consistent order, regardless of their position in the source? The current ordering is a bit inconsistent (compare SNES Battle Course 1 and SNES Battle Course 4). -Dine2017 (talk) 03:51, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

Text replacement[edit]

Hi. Would you mind changing Super Mario Bros.: Peach-hime Kyushutsu Dai Sakusen! to Super Mario Bros.: Peach-hime Kyūshutsu Dai Sakusen! in the mainspace and File namespace?

I believe there is no false positive in the File namespace and the only one in the mainspace is the interwiki link [[it:Super Mario Bros.: Peach-hime Kyushutsu Dai Sakusen!]] of the subject itself. --Dine2017 (talk) 10:36, August 13, 2022 (EDT)

Replacing instances of "NS" with "Switch"[edit]

do it for "Category:Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (NS) images" too pls :) -- KOOPA CON CARNE 15:49, August 23, 2022 (EDT)

Text replacement[edit]

Hi. Would you mind changing ==Reference== to ==References==? I believe there are currently 152 instances of the former. --Dine2017 (talk) 09:50, August 26, 2022 (EDT)

Text replacement[edit]

Hi. Could you change

[[List of games# followed by four digits


[[List of games by date# followed by the same digits

These changes target things like this:

|first_appearance=''[[Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars]]'' ([[List of games#1996|1996]])
|latest_appearance=''[[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions]]'' ([[List of games#2017|2017]])

--Dine2017 (talk) 01:19, August 30, 2022 (EDT)

Bot work again[edit]

Hi, would you mind running the bot to change every instance of {{button|ns| to {{button|switch|? Thanks! Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 08:23, September 1, 2022 (EDT)

I ran this when I updated the template. Where are you seeing the old syntax? EDIT: Found some that were missed and fixed them. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 08:44, September 1, 2022 (EDT)


Hi. Regarding your recent use of the bot to propagate the {{hover}} template, there are still a few cases which can be covered.

By the way, SMW:JP#General rules is still instructing editors to use the old syntax -- does that need to be updated too? --Dine2017 (talk) 09:23, September 16, 2022 (EDT)

Finished the proposal railing against Mario Kart console abbreviation titles[edit]

You can view it here. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 15:44, September 20, 2022 (EDT)

Where's the proposed solution? I can image you'd want to move Wii Maple Treeway to Maple Treeway, but what about something like SNES Rainbow Road? Rainbow Road (Super Mario Kart) doesn't work since it appears in multiple games in addition to Super Mario Kart; perhaps Rainbow Road (SNES)?
I suppose that could be two separate options. "Rainbow Road (Super Mario Kart)" might actually work in theory (contrary to your claim) since it originates from Super Mario Kart and would be differentiated from other courses in the same series; as an example, we already have Warp Space (Mario Party 4) differentiated from Warp Space (Mario Party 10) despite the former space also appearing in Mario Party: Island Tour. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 15:58, September 20, 2022 (EDT)
Oh yeah I talked about that in my last comment here. I will move those away from game identifiers since the appear in multiple games. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 16:04, September 20, 2022 (EDT)
To briefly delve into that other topic though, what other possible identifier could be used for the two Warp Spaces? They have distinguishing functions so specific (to another player's space vs. to another Warp Space) that I don't think type identifiers would work in that case. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 16:08, September 20, 2022 (EDT)

"Category:Kinder Chocolate images" & "Category:Artwork by Masanori Sato"[edit]

Can you please move these to "Category:Kinder images" and "Category:Masanori Sato images"? "Kinder Chocolate" is the name of a particular line of products under the Kinder brand, not the brand itself, and the current wiki coverage of Kinder doesn't concern it. The other category is named so because, I think, at the time I created it, I wasn't aware the titles of the other "Images by artist" categories had been recast; I apologise for that. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 09:37, September 30, 2022 (EDT)


Forgive me if this is off the beaten path, but is it true you once said "chuckster" should be split from Pianta? Just want to make sure the latter comment of this proposal stands. Bowser Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 06:15, October 9, 2022 (EDT)

Yes that's true, and that piece of porplemontage lore can be found here. In general I'm pro-split (I'd rather have many smaller articles with some breathing room than big articles where you have to hunt down the information), and especially so when a subject has a distinct name or term for it. Here's our average Google position for the query "chuckster" (1 is best). After being brutally owned by FANDOM for years (since their article came first), we've actually been creeping up the past few months and could be on the cusp of something great. A merge to Pianta would be a surrender in this fight since having an article with the matching title is what allows it to be close in the first place. I encourage everyone to be mindful of how discrete articles help search engine discoverability before voting to merge any article, not just chuckster. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 11:17, October 9, 2022 (EDT)
As of now I'm not firm on one option or the other in that proposal (inclined towards keeping chucksters split), but I really don't think search rankings make a particularly strong argument in the face of an encyclopedia's bid for veracity. I really don't mean to offend, but given your position as site proprietor I'm assuming ulterior motives with this proposition. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 11:45, October 9, 2022 (EDT)
I guess the reason I provide this info is for some broader context. The wiki doesn't exist in a vacuum. The real-world truth is that people find our articles through Google, and I thought our editors liked having their work found and read, liked outperforming FANDOM, etc. If these things aren't of significant importance or persuasive to you then so be it. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 12:31, October 9, 2022 (EDT)

MarioWiki:Article size[edit]

Hey can you remove the part on this policy that says "This policy does not apply to list or table pages such as Places and Trophy Descriptions (Super Smash Bros. Brawl), just actual articles."? my proposal to remove that text passed but I can't edit the page. S o m e t h i n g o n e ! A Big Bandit from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. 11:05, November 7, 2022 (EST)

Thanks so much. Don't know why that outdated exception existed in the first place, but I'm glad it's gone! S o m e t h i n g o n e ! A Big Bandit from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. 11:13, November 7, 2022 (EST)


A while ago, you had <span class="explain"title="[H]">[K]</span> replaced with {{hover|[K]|[H]}} which I thought was more accessible. However, I wasn't aware that the wiki was capable of displaying furigana properly until I noticed it here, where it seems to look like <rb>K</rb><rt>H</rt>. Would you be able to script something conveniently similar to hover but explicitly meant for showing furigana? Also, on a semi-related note, do you have any thoughts on this? LinkTheLefty (talk) 10:06, November 30, 2022 (EST)

So now we have {{hover|[K]|[H]}} ([K]) and {{ruby|[K]|[H]}} ([K][H]). Should be easy enough to switch between them. I don't have a preference for which is used or any thoughts on the diff you've linked since I'm out of my depth when it comes to Japanese :) --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 10:49, November 30, 2022 (EST)

Fix the Rename template[edit]

Will you please do me a favor and replace {{#if:{{{2|}}}|([[:{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{PAGENAME}}#{{{2}}}|discuss]]) with {{#if:{{{2|}}}|([[:{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{PAGENAME}}#{{{2}}}|discuss]])}} on the {{move}} template? GuntherBB.jpgGuntherBBGravity Rush Kat.png


Minor issue but is there any way to code Template:Ruby so that when you highlight it the hirigana doesn't get highlighted along with the kanji, like how it happened with Template:Hover? S o m e t h i n g o n e ! A Big Bandit from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. 18:12, January 7, 2023 (EST)

Yeah I don't think that worked, I can still highlight the hirigana when the ruby template is used. S o m e t h i n g o n e ! A Big Bandit from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. 08:40, January 8, 2023 (EST)
I added the special Safari CSS for it, but it doesn't seem to actually work, so that one's on Apple --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 09:10, January 8, 2023 (EST)

Template:WWGIT fit pipes[edit]

I made this template to check whether a given value matches a character's name when called in Template:WWGIT fit (the "parent" template) and decide whether to create a piped link based on that. However, it appears that, whenever the parent template locates a true #ifeq expression from "WWGIT fit pipe", it splices the second entered string and the truth value to create the link instead of using just the truth value, e.g. for "Young Cricket", the link becomes "Young CricketYoung Cricket & Master Mantis" instead of Young Cricket & Master Mantis. Do you know what causes this? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 10:27, January 20, 2023 (EST)

Proposal approval[edit]

There's a proposal that is a week old. Maybe you should approve it. GuntherBB.jpgGuntherBBGravity Rush Kat.png

If there's a proposal that's past the deadline date, you can archive it yourself. Bowser Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 12:20, February 3, 2023 (EST)

Your thoughts on Visual Editor[edit]

Just for the record, is it possible to make a Visual Editor for this wiki, and do you think it is or isn't a good idea? Just asking because of the situation that was brought up in this currently active proposal regarding the topic. S o m e t h i n g o n e ! A Big Bandit from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. 13:12, February 25, 2023 (EST)

It's not currently technically feasible. I've done testing with it on the wiki, and trying to visual-edit large articles like Mario caused server CPU usage to spike and the visual editor eventually hit a 30-second timeout. Not good for server stability. However, I'm planning on migrating the site to an upgraded server early next year. I think there's a good chance it will be doable on the new hardware, but I have to test it first.
In terms of want/desire for it, I'm not really a huge fan, but if it runs well on the new server and the community wants it, then I think we can make it work. One aspect of it is TemplateData, which makes templates user-friendly to visual editor users. If we do decide to install the visual editor, then we should take it seriously and plan on adding TemplateData to as many of our templates as we can. This is a project I'd like the proposer and community to keep in mind when voting and help with if it were to pass.
So I guess the order has to be this: 1) Wait until the new server in 2024. 2) I'll test the visual editor and see if performance is acceptable. 3) If it's doable, community proposal and discussion on the matter can proceed. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 15:34, February 25, 2023 (EST)

Visual Editor proposal[edit]

Commenters at the Visual Editor proposal made a good point that I should have asked you first if this proposal is acceptable or not. If not, I'm ready to cancel it. Spectrogram (talk) 07:41, February 26, 2023 (EST)

Yes, based on the above section it will have to be canceled now, with the possibility of revisiting next year. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 10:57, February 26, 2023 (EST)


Hi there, This user threatened to report me if I undo their edits. It stemmed from a misunderstanding over at the Mario Mover Gallery. It truly was not my intention to cause any trouble, I'm just doing my best to clarify the context of the art. I have also messaged a couple of pratrollers about it, but have not heard anything back. I don't want to come across as spamming this message, I just wanted to get the word out and I don't want to cause anymore trouble. Thank you and hope everything can be sorted out!

Sdman213 (talk) 10:26, March 9, 2023 (EST)

Super Mario Mirage for April Fools Day[edit]

Hello Porplemontage, Happy Mario Day! I want Super Mario Mirage for April Fools Day on this wiki. Thanks. 00:00, March 10, 2023 (EST)

Mario Day ended, but I still want Super Mario Mirage for April Fools Day on this wiki. Thanks. 00:00, March 11, 2023 (EST)

CSS table width[edit]

Hi. This edit forced tables to appear 1px narrower than their natural width. It seems that this hack was added to fix something, but unfortunately it caused another problem:

{| class=wikitable
! Test 1
| The quick brown fox

normally displays as

| Test 1 | The quick brown fox |

Now it displays as something like

| Test | The quick brown      |
|  1   | fox                  |

To see the effect on real articles, see Three Beautiful Sisters#Felissa T. At least on my computer (Chrome on Windows 10) the "ー[1]" of "チェリー[1]" is moved one line down, even though the page is wide enough to set the name horizontally. Is there any way to avoid this? --Dine2017 (talk) 23:04, March 31, 2023 (EDT)

SmashWiki seems to have problems with internet trolls using ip addresses to repeatedly ban evade and vandalize.[edit]

Given that many Discord servers require a phone number before you can post in them, how would it be easy to require each account and IP address here to submit sensitive personal info such as bank card numbers, drivers license or government issued ID or phone numbers in order to edit?

MarioWiki itself wouldn’t use the data for any reason outside of logging it in a database to auto detect bans. Would it be difficult to verify info such as if bank numbers is real or something or would it result in hackers who hack into MarioWiki itself gaining access to your data?

This would also ensure that if an user is banned here, then tries to edit using an IP address, the info they provide would automatically flag and ban them instead of us having to do the annoying process of detecting if they are the same user.

R.O.B.Remembered Old BuddyROBSSB4EN.png 10:04, April 19, 2023 (EDT)

There are many things that can be done to lock-down a wiki, but generally a conscious decision is made to keep things open and revert vandalism rather than have a restrictive system. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 10:52, April 19, 2023 (EDT)

MarioWiki Namespace Shortcuts[edit]

Why exactly were all the "MW:[TEXT]" redirects removed? I see the bot moved all instances of them to a "SMW:[TEXT]" title, but that also doesn't show up in the search results. Never mind, they still exist. They just don't pop up in the search bar unless you type the full thing anymore.S o m e t h i n g o n e ! A Big Bandit from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. 16:50, April 19, 2023 (EDT)

Text replacement[edit]

Can you change all instances of [[Category:Super Mario World: Mario & Yoshi's Adventure Land images]] to [[Category:Super Mario World: Mario to Yoshi no Bōken Land images]]? There are 51 images under the old category. Thanks! - RHG1951 (talk) 20:43, April 20, 2023 (EDT)

Age template[edit]

I had an idea to update the template, also I updated on Wikipedia a bit. I believe there are more users that born in 1999 than 1989 on this wiki. Which is better, 1972 at time of 1986, or 1999 at time of 2013? Whether the status quo is better? Windy (talk) 18:06, April 26, 2023 (EDT)

Since it's just an example, it doesn't really matter what years are used, so it's fine to leave as-is. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 08:37, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

pls halp[edit]

How do I change the colour of image frames in my monobook? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 22:27, May 7, 2023 (EDT)

Edit: And is it possible to change the colour of the navigation/tool boxes on the left side of the web page? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 22:33, May 7, 2023 (EDT)

I suggest you familiarize yourself with your browser's "inspect element" (Ctrl+Shift+C) to see what selector MediaWiki uses for styling a given element.

div.thumbinner {
	color: white;
	border-color: red;
	background-color: blue;
} .pBody,
body:not(.skin--responsive) .pBody {
	border-color: green;
	background-color: orange;

And in case you didn't know, "Show preview" can be used on your CSS page to test changes to elements visible on that page. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 08:37, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

And I suggest you drop the condescending attitude. I know about the preview function on that page, the problem is that there are many elements that cannot be previewed in there, and no "Preview X page" exists on my end to aid me with that (templates have it, on the other hand). The only conducive thing I could do was repeatedly save my changes. I'm also using inspect element on the regular when I extract certain web content for documentation, it just didn't occur to me I could do so here too... -- KOOPA CON CARNE 08:59, May 8, 2023 (EDT)
I'm not trying to have any attitude; sorry if it came off that way. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 09:03, May 8, 2023 (EDT)
My reaction was overblown. I construed the previewing function as obvious enough not to merit an explanation, hence why I thought you were being facetious with that piece of advice, but I've come to accept that you were genuinely trying to help. I was an asshat. Please accept my sincere apologies. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 10:17, May 8, 2023 (EDT)
All good! --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 09:53, May 9, 2023 (EDT)

Text replacement[edit]

Can you make the following changes:

  • [[Ashley & Red|Ashley]] into [[Ashley]]
  • [[Ashley & Red|Red]] into [[Red (WarioWare series)|Red]]

As of this moment, 283 pages still link to Ashley & Red and the above changes should take care of most of them. Thanks! - RHG1951 (talk) 20:06, May 15, 2023 (EDT)


Some of users seem that dissatisfied with editing the year from the age template from SmashWiki. A conflict of opinion has occured. Please help. Also, please unprotect the age template from this wiki. ADD: The template is too outdated and I updated it. (In Wikipedia, it was written in 2006, but this is so obsolete that it needs an update in our wiki. Here) Windy (talk) 07:4409:33, May 24, 2023 (EDT)

A decision has been made. Let's set as August 12, 2005, Mariowiki's found date, as an example of an Age template. And the second date is 35th anniversary of Super Mario Bros. date, September 13, 2020. Example: {{age|August 12, 2005|September 13, 2020}} Windy (talk) 10:36, May 24, 2023 (EDT)
On this wiki, the template will remain protected and any changes to the example will be the staff's decision to make. Please do not suggest any more changes to it. On SmashWiki, you should listen to the admins. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 12:55, May 24, 2023 (EDT)
Thank you for change to more important date on Mariowiki! I'll look for a suitable answer on Smashwiki. Windy (talk) 13:14, May 24, 2023 (EDT)

After block expired on Smashwiki, I didn't checked the messages from Discord (before joining), and I said nonsense on talk page and I was blocked with unpleasant remarks. My weird obsession with that template must be gone off. Can I ask you one thing; can you update and protect the template from Smashwiki? I couldn't sleep properly. I'll listen to what the admin says. Thank you. Windy (talk) 10:50, June 2, 2023 (EDT)

I will leave that to the SmashWiki admins to decide. Let's try to keep this talk page focused on the Super Mario Wiki; any SmashWiki matters should stay on SmashWiki. Thanks! --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 12:46, June 2, 2023 (EDT)
I'll focus on this wiki and not to deviate from it. However, I can't say anything because I'm afraid that I'll be cussed by admins, please quietly improve any templates across multiple wikis. Thanks for discussion. Windy (talk) 13:10, June 2, 2023 (EDT)

Proposal on allowing fanon content[edit]

Last year on June 18, the Drawn to Life Wiki allowed fanon content on that wiki under the Fanon namespace. This time, I want to make a proposal on allowing fanon content on the Super Mario Wiki. You will be able to either create the "Fanon:Home" namespace if you want to or know how to create custom namespaces or create "MarioWiki:Fanon" if you cannot create any new namespaces. Lastly, the Content category will receive a subcategory known as Category:Fanon, which consists of the subcategories Category:Original characters, Category:Theories, Category:Alternate universes, Category:Fanfiction, and, via the {{fanon-image}} template, Category:Fanon images. For example, fanon pages respectively about moves, galleries, events, game mechanics, diseases, bestiaries, histories, pre-release and unused content, staff, consoles, and implied elements each belong to the "Theories" category, fanon pages respectively about characters, allies, and bosses belong to the "Original characters" category, fanon pages about third-party elements belong to the "Alternate universe" category, and fanon pages about fan history and fan-made media belong to the "Fanfiction" category. May I please make the proposal on allowing fanon content on the wiki? GuntherBB.jpgGuntherBBGravity Rush Kat.png 15:30, June 5, 2023 (EDT)

Unfortunately that would be a potentially big scope expansion into a content area that I'm just not looking to get the wiki involved with, so I'm sorry to say I would veto that proposal. I would encourage the Pikipedia/Pikmin Fanon model and go for a separate wiki. Check out the NIWA Discord server or maybe a site like Miraheze to get started. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 16:10, June 5, 2023 (EDT)


I checked who the proprietor is and I found it is you. My proposal got closed because they say it's your decision, and I'm beginning to worry that democracy here is under threat. As a consequence, please let me make a proposal where consensus will decide if you should add cat photos to your userpage. CoolNintendo (talk) 10:42, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

Oh sorry i read rule 17, never mind i can respect that CoolNintendo (talk) 10:49, June 19, 2023 (EDT)

Hidden orphaned pages[edit]

Hello! As of now, Special:LonelyPages is empty. However, there is a slight problem with that. It appears it considers any page "not orphaned" that is linked to from other namespaces outside of (Main) or Gallery: (File:, User:, Talk:, etc). The pages that are actually orphaned, that are only linked to from file descriptions or talk page discussions, simply don't show up. Would it be possible for you to change that? Thanks in advance, Spectrogram (talk) 14:50, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

I might be able to do this, not sure, but if I am then I'll implement it. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 20:54, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Unusual bot request[edit]

Hello, I made a couple mistakes in the documentation while mass-uploading some .gifs. Can we have

|4=Cropped and animated to match in-game appearance (frame order 1-2-3-4-3-2, frame delay 13)

changed to

|4=Cropped and animated to match in-game appearance (frame order 1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2, frame delay 13)


|4=Cropped and animated to match in-game appearance (frame order (1*6)-2-3-(4*6), frame delay 13)

changed to

|4=Cropped and animated to match in-game appearance (frame order (1*6)-2-3-4-(5*6), frame delay 13)

? Thanks. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:45, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

While on that subject, is there any way to make the "upload by URL" not automatically populate (and irreversibly overwrite) the filename bar? Because when uploading via discord link (which I do frequently), all that does is add two extra steps to an already tedious process where I have to move it to the file description section to avoid it being lost. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:25, June 28, 2023 (EDT)
Unfortunately that's very much a built-in MediaWiki thing, but I did have an idea for you. You could temporarily disable your browser's JavaScript next time you have a batch of uploads to prevent the autofill from happening. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 20:54, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Template question[edit]


Let's say I have a template with three parameters, designated A, B, and C. When I give them values, the template produces the following:

This is a two-column list
  • A
  • B
  • C

Now, if I give B and C values but I don't give parameter A any value, I want the values of B and C to move one space up the list, such that B supersedes A, and C moves to the left column, like so:

This is a two-column list
  • B
  • C

How do I program a template to do this? If I just nest "if" expressions in each parameter definition so that the next parameter is displayed in its place if it's not given any value, said next parameter is going to repeat on the following spot in the list anyway, like so:

This is a two-column list
  • B
  • B
  • C

And that's an utter programming n00b move. Is there a wiki function that recognises whether a parameter had already been filled on the same template, and does something based on that? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 20:08, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

I don't know of a wiki function that would make this easy. Ideally you'd want to design the template in a more forgiving way, like this:
{| style="border:solid black"
|'''This is a two-column list'''
|<div style="column-count:2"><!--
If this doesn't help, I think I could be more useful if I knew more about the template you're working on. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 23:36, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

I wasn't aware of the "column-count" attribute; that actually solves my problem partially, thanks! Having created the template in question, two issues remain:

  1. the template may split the text in one entry between two columns. Here, for instance, the German text is moved to the column on the right while its heading stays on the left.
  2. if multiple parameters in a row aren't filled in, the result is a jarring empty space where the next item on the list should be. For instance, if the Kor and Por parameters (both immediately following the Ita parameter) are left out, you can notice an empty space between the Italian and Spanish entries:
  • Two-column list:
    • English:
    • Japanese:
    • Simplified Chinese:
      simplified chinese
    • Traditional Chinese:
      traditional chinese
    • French:
    • German:
    • Italian:
    • Spanish (Latin America):
      spanish (latam)
    • Spanish (Europe):
      spanish (europe)

-- KOOPA CON CARNE 07:22, July 3, 2023 (EDT)

Thank you! -- KOOPA CON CARNE 12:34, July 3, 2023 (EDT)

A question regarding your server storage[edit]

As you're already aware, lately I've been updating various articles on Mario Kart Tour subjects with in-game blurbs. Because the game only provides these to the end user for a relatively brief period of time, not everyone has ready access to the game's files, and there aren't always video recordings of this information available online to cite, I've taken upon myself to take screenshots featuring these blurbs and upload them to the wiki to act as citations. My concern is that the number of screenshots I have uploaded and will continue to upload is... quite large, to say the least.

  • Each item has a blurb localised in 11 languages, meaning I have to upload 11 screenshots at once for a single item.
  • The game currently has 265 drivers, 336 karts, and 225 gliders, totalling 826. Not nearly as many items have been given blurbs, but let's assume all of them have. Each screenshot, when optimised with TinyPNG, ends up being an average of 160kb; times 11, that's 1.76mb of material uploaded for 1 item; times the number of items shown above, that's 1453.76mb worth of content in our scenario.

Considering the wiki has around 70GB of media files as of writing, would you be ok with a potential 1.5 gb more to the wiki's storage, or would you prefer I found another way to cite the information mentioned above? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 15:46, July 17, 2023 (EDT)

That's no problem - we have enough storage for it! --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 16:43, July 17, 2023 (EDT)


Didn't Alex95 get demoted? Why is his name still green in the "Who's online" section of Recent Changes? --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 11:18, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Your custom CSS makes him green. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 11:19, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Mobile view issues[edit]

Since this morning on mobile view, the text in sections wouldn't appear in a page until refreshing a few times, and also don't appear while previewing. Bowser Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 07:43, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

Hello. The wiki software was updated this morning. Does it work after clearing your browser cache? --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 08:22, August 5, 2023 (EDT)
I cleared my browsing history and previewing still doesn't work. Bowser Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 08:48, August 5, 2023 (EDT)
I'm not able to reproduce any issues with preview. Can you send a screenshot of what it looks like broken? --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 09:08, August 5, 2023 (EDT)
Looks like it's been fixed now, thanks very much. Bowser Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 13:43, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

On another note, is it possible to run a bot changing "Darkmess Portal" to the lowercase "Darkmess portal"? The reason being because the lowercase "p" is used in-game in Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope. There are still lots of usage of the capital "P" around articles, including in links. Bowser Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 20:54, August 5, 2023 (EDT)


Should it be updated? Since it obviously uses outdated CGI, or is that unecessary? --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 12:07, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

If someone wants to provide an updated File:Personal-image.png and matching File:Personal-image-sig.png as a proposal or something then that's great. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 12:48, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

Mobile View Issues[edit]

I don't know why so much of the display code was removed, but now the wiki pages look weird on my end. The infoboxes and galleries are all left-aligned, the navigation boxes and collapsed sections of infoboxes are only partially colored (only coloring the area around the text while the outline extends to the full part of the page), and the "compare differences" menu is completely vertical (which takes up more space than before). Was this intentional? S o m e t h i n g o n e ! A Big Bandit from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. 14:24, August 7, 2023 (EDT)

It should go back to normal soon when your browser cache refreshes. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 14:39, August 7, 2023 (EDT)
Yeah that worked, it looks normal now. Thanks for letting me know! S o m e t h i n g o n e ! A Big Bandit from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door. 14:49, August 7, 2023 (EDT)

Error code: Plessie[edit]

My userpage keeps signing me out when I save changes I've made to it. It keeps saying Error code: Plessie. What does that mean and how do I get it to stop happening?--Poisoned Geno SMRPG sprite.png Pizza Master 15:47, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

I've made my changes. If this happens again, What should I do? Wait until later to come back and make edits? Or should I contact you again?--Poisoned Geno SMRPG sprite.png Pizza Master 16:33, August 16, 2023 (EDT)


I need to fix my status template, but i can't seem to figure out how to do so. --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 10:19, August 27, 2023 (EDT)

Tetris 99 page on Mario Wiki[edit]

I was just asking for a request to the Porple Bot. We have now a guest article for Tetris 99, the bot should replace all mention of ''{{wp|Tetris 99}}'' with ''[[Tetris 99]]'' Don't click Penny PnnyCrygr User contributions 05:28, September 5, 2023 (EDT)

Div class (Halloween)[edit]

Hello, Porple. I would like to impliment a background for my userpage, specifically a halloween one (pumpkins, perhaps?). What would be the codes for this? --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 09:29, September 22, 2023 (EDT)

Background images require CSS and that's not really supported here for user pages. I would suggest a solid color background and you can place Halloween graphics throughout the page.
<div style="color:white;background:black">
...userpage content...
--Steve (talk) Get Firefox 11:34, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
IIRC, there were graphics from the Pumpkin Goombas from SMG, but that could just be my memory. Thanks for the help anyway! --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 11:41, September 22, 2023 (EDT)

Change in the names of Crossover Characters[edit]

Hello, this is the first time I've requested the use of PorpleBot, so I apologize if I forgot anything. A past proposal has decided that the page names of various crossover characters should be shortened. I have moved the relevant pages and edited their templates, but I need PorpleBot to replace all their respective links across the wiki. The pages affected were Fox, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow (character), Vector, Blaze, Silver, Rouge, Espio, Jet (Sonic the Hedgehog), Wave (character), Omega, Sticks, Cream (character), Charmy and Big (character). I'm not sure if I need to specify any other details, thank you for the help! — Lady Sophie Wiggler Sophie.png (T|C) 13:40, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

There are a few stragglers but the bot got the vast majority of article links. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 15:38, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

Question about MIDI sampling[edit]

Is it allowed to use MIDI files converted to mp3 or oga? I'd like to fix a mistake/ommission on the SMW Overworld sample. --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 13:39, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

Sure, there's nothing wrong with converting media files to one of the wiki's supported formats. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 15:38, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

Confused about this change[edit]

I guess this probably came about from Super Mario Bros. Wonder, but...I disagree with it being done this way. I know there's been public discussions on what to do with game filenames, and of the two proposals that got canceled, the latter was leaning in the direction of doing something about internal data with the development tier in the comments. Reclassifying game ("internal") data from development names to website ("external") filenames conflicts with at least two proposals: the encyclopedia one specifically outlines that Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia remains a lower priority than internal names, citing the Lumacomète example as a reason, and in the website proposal, no one was conflating game filenames with website filenames, and rather, there seemed to be general agreement of keeping them both distinguishable. Plus, there are cases where the unused data/string is not necessarily a filename or even "internal" per se. It's a weird technicality.
As unrelated as possible: if there is a question we want to ask more privately, would the best way to do it be via forum DM? LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:41, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

Sure you can DM me. I only did that change because the page mentioned website files but said nothing about game files. Given that we are creating articles based on game files, surely they should be mentioned somewhere in the policy and be a part of that hierarchy. I don't personally care where they fall; I can move the mention to number 5. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 13:56, November 4, 2023 (EDT)


There is discussion and proposals going on about extensive use of the tabber template. I am aware you said before that you didn't like it being used here. I was wondering if your thoughts on it are the same as then or if they have changed. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 10:13, November 13, 2023 (EST)

I personally hate tabber and I think it's gimmicky. I'd rather just pick an image and cover the rest of the variations in the article body. Regardless of my feelings, I added it after the result of a democratic proposal (this isn't a dictatorship). Regarding the JavaScript point: I can have the tabber fail in one of two ways: (1) only show the first image, or (2) show all the images. #1 is good if the additional images can be considered supplemental and hiding them isn't going to conceal important stuff from the user (for example, if those images also appear elsewhere in the article). #2 can make the infobox look kinda silly, but I agree that it makes more sense to use it if the images don't appear anywhere else in the articles so we don't degrade what those users are seeing. Given that several articles have removed images from the article body and put them in the infobox, I switched the failure method to #2. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 10:33, November 13, 2023 (EST)

Bowser's Muscle Car[edit]

I recently moved the Koopa Chase to its new official English name, would it be possible to use porplebot to replace the remaining links? — Lady Sophie Wiggler Sophie.png (T|C) 18:36, November 16, 2023 (EST)


May the PorpleBot please change all instances of "[[kannon (cannon)|kannon]]" to "[[cannon|kannon]]" and "[[kannonball]]" to "[[cannonball|kannonball]]"? The pages were just merged. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:28, November 24, 2023 (EST)

And now "[[Gobblegut (Black)]]" to "[[Gobblegut|Gobblegut (Black)]]" and "[[Gobblegut (Black)|Gobblegut]]" to"[[Gobblegut]]". Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:04, December 2, 2023
...and now "[[Mecha Bowser]]" to "[[Bowser Statue|Mecha Bowser]]" and </nowiki>"[[Mecha Bowser|</nowiki>" to "[[Bowser Statue|". Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:32, December 2, 2023 (EST)
...and now I need Fiery Dino Piranha deleted, Fiery Dino Piranha (mission) moved to its place, all links to the former directed to Dino Piranha, and all links to the latter changed to the former. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:38, December 14, 2023 (EST)

Power Shots[edit]

The Power Shot article has been split between Power Shot (Mario Golf series) and Power Shot (Mario Tennis series), while Offensive Power Shot and Defensive Power Shot were both merged into Power Shot (Mario Tennis series). I believe I have fixed all of the redirects created in the Golf series articles, but there are far too many Tennis series articles to edit manually. Would it be possible to use PorpleBot to fix those redirects? — Lady Sophie Wiggler Sophie.png (T|C) 12:06, December 5, 2023 (EST)

Citation templates[edit]

Hello, Porplemontage. Since we do not have any citation templates, I used a cite web template onto my sandbox called cite web. Although, since there is no category, I think we could have Citation templates as one. What do you suggest? Derekblue1(talk)Daisy Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga-styled sprite 09:36, December 13, 2023 (EST)

Hey. Citation templates is certainly a good category name if we were to have at least a few of them (if it's just one it could probably be tossed in formatting templates), but that template would go against this proposal, so you'd need to do a new proposal to overturn that one before the template could be moved to the template namespace or used.
While I have you here: Note that the changes to MarioWiki:Article size were designed to make it less definitive and more discussion-based: 150 kB is simply when split consideration starts, but if it's decided to keep an article larger than that, that's allowed. That's not to say an article like Toad (species) couldn't be split into History of Toads just above 150K - Yoshi was actually split just under 150K months ago without complaint (so that's why the threshold was increased to 150K, since splitting at or around 100K didn't feel right to a lot of users while a 150K split was seemingly non-controversial, but in addition to the increase it's now meant to be an open discussion rather than a hard and fast rule). Thanks! --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 10:08, December 13, 2023 (EST)
Oh. Thank you for telling me about the failed proposal of citation templates. Let us see how the future proposal goes, but I will accept the fate if it does not come through.
For the article size question response, it took me a few hours to understand what you meant but I finally understand you are saying that splitting articles is meant to be an open discussion; that should show why Template:Split is there in the first place. I was excited to split pages straight away because they fit the 100kB threshold. That is when I ended up splitting up a few articles that have not been discussed in the first place until Mario reminded me on the wall that I stopped. Now I understand, for the Toad species, it is better to put a Split template and discuss user thoughts of splitting this. Derekblue1(talk)Daisy Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga-styled sprite 19:23, December 13, 2023 (EST)
After reading the proposal, I can see where they got the MarioWiki:Citations, so I think it was resolved that they choose not to have a template but a policy. According to some people, the proposal looked forced to tell others to use the citation templates for "professionalism". I will cancel the cite web template idea. Derekblue1(talk)Daisy Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga-styled sprite 22:45, December 13, 2023 (EST)

Koopa Troop weapons category[edit]

Per this proposal, Category:Koopa Troop weapons is to be deleted. Is it possible to run a bot removing this category from all pages that have it? Bowser Nightwicked Bowser Bowser emblem from Mario Kart 8 12:47, December 23, 2023 (EST)


There's a proposal that is nine days old. Can you mark the proposal as passed? GuntherBB.jpgGuntherBBGravity Rush Kat.png 10:08, December 30, 2023 (EST)

For clarity's sake, I just archived it. As stated above, you can also archive proposals that have reached their deadline yourself. Power Flotzo (talk) 06:42, December 31, 2023 (EST)

Mass editing request[edit]

I would like to request that the string:
''[[Mario Kart Tour]]''|4=Optimized with TinyPNG
found across the file pages of hundreds of Mario Kart Tour screenshots (such as File:MKT Tour101 Spotlight Shop Flowery Badwagon.jpg) be replaced with:
''[[Mario Kart Tour]]''<br>Screenshot taken on Redmi Note 10 Pro|4=Cropped at, then optimized with TinyPNG
The layout of the elements shown in these screenshots may adapt to the device's screen size, and I think it's best if the device is mentioned for verifiability and such. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 17:53, January 18, 2024 (EST)

Thank -- KOOPA CON CARNE 18:20, January 18, 2024 (EST)


Thanks for helping me, however, can I please have my original username WaluigiMan10000 back with my current password? User:WarioDude

Navtemplate colors[edit]

Hi, should the navtemplate for Princess Peach: Showtime! use the same color scheme as the one for Super Princess Peach? I just ask because it's not yet brought up at MarioWiki:Navigation templates and it would make the most sense since both are the only games where Peach is treated as the primary protagonist. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 17:23, February 23, 2024 (EST)

Yes, sounds good. I've renamed the class from spp to peach to generalize it for more uses. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 17:47, February 23, 2024 (EST)

Vector 2022 bug[edit]

Hi. Why does this page look so strange?

It seems that if a page has at least four headings, and one of them has an unclosed italics '', such as:


then the following HTML will be output under the Vector 2022 skin:

    <div class="mw-content-container">...</div>
    <div class="mw-footer-container">...</div>

The effect of the extraneous <i> is to make the whole page italic and extremely narrow. --Dine2017 (talk) 06:17, March 17, 2024 (EDT)

It seems fine on Wikipedia, so the fix should eventually make its way downstream to us. In the meantime, those tags should be closed anyway. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 11:27, March 17, 2024 (EDT)

Fandom interwiki link[edit]

Can you please change the URL that the [[wikia:c:<wiki>]] interwiki link generates from<wiki> to https://<wiki> Thanks! GuntherBB.jpgGuntherBBGravity Rush Kat.png 13:45, March 21, 2024 (EDT)

That is not possible due to how Special:Interwiki works. Luckily we can use {{fandom}} instead. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 14:06, March 21, 2024 (EDT)
So are you going to remove the [[w:c:<wiki>]] interwiki link if the proposal here gets declined, since Fandom's interwiki link had problems in the past? GuntherBB.jpgGuntherBBGravity Rush Kat.png 12:28, March 22, 2024 (EDT)
No, I don't plan on it. While I would encourage articles to use {{fandom}}, the wikia interwiki is a pretty standard one to have and it's fine to have for backwards-compatibility, use in the userspace, etc. --Steve (talk) Get Firefox 13:37, March 22, 2024 (EDT)

Bot request[edit]

  • .''. --> .''
  • .]]. --> .]]
  • .]]''. --> .]]''

RickTommy (talk) 20:16, March 26, 2024 (EDT)