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===List of talk page proposals===
===List of talk page proposals===
{{TPPDiscuss|Split [[Red Pepper]], [[Green Pepper]], and [[Blue Pepper]] from [[Pepper]]|Talk:Pepper#Split Red Pepper, Green Pepper, and Blue Pepper|October 14, 2019, 23:59 GMT}}
{{TPPDiscuss|Delete [[Bowser Bomb (Mario Party DS)|Bowser Bomb (''Mario Party DS'')]]|Talk:Bowser Bomb (Mario Party DS)#Delete this page|April 2, 2018, 23:59 GMT}}
{{TPPDiscuss|Delete [[Dinosaur]]|Talk:Dinosaur#Send this article back to the Cretaceous period|October 24, 2019, 23:59 GMT}}
{{TPPDiscuss|Delete [[Mechanical cricket]]|Talk:Mechanical_cricket#Delete_this_article|April 6, 2018, 23:59 GMT}}
{{TPPDiscuss|Split {{fake link|Toad (item)}} from [[Toad]]|Talk:Toad#Split Toad (item) from Toad|April 10, 2018, 23:59 GMT}}


==Unimplemented proposals==
==Unimplemented proposals==
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|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 41#Create separate articles for DKC series and DKL series boss levels|Create boss level articles for ''Donkey Kong Country'' and ''Donkey Kong Land'' series]]<br>'''Notes:''' The ''DK: King of Swing'' boss levels, while not explicitly covered by this proposal, should receive the same treatment. All ''Donkey Kong Land'' boss levels have been created.
|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 41#Create separate articles for DKC series and DKL series boss levels|Create boss level articles for ''Donkey Kong Country'' and ''Donkey Kong Land'' series]]
|{{User|Aokage}}
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|align=left|[[Talk:Behemoth#Merge_Behemoth_King_to_Behemoth_or_expand_Behemoth_King_article|Expand the Behemoth King article]]
|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 46#Split all remaining courts/boards based on recurring places from their parent articles|Split all remaining courts and boards from their parent articles]]
|{{User|Owencrazyboy9}}
|{{User|NSY}}
|December 23, 2017
|September 25, 2016
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|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 52#Change the way that recurring Mario & Sonic events are handled, round 2|Decide how to cover recurring events in the ''Mario & Sonic'' series]]
|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 47#Do_Something_With_Game-Specific_Species_Categories|Clean up species categories to only include non-hostile species]]
|{{User|BBQ Turtle}}
|{{User|Niiue}}
|July 17, 2018
|August 8, 2017
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|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 52#Split Switch/3DS ports with substantial new content|Allow ports of games with substantial new content to be split from the parent articles]]
|align=left|[[Category talk:Artifacts#Do something with this category|Clean up Category:Artifacts]]
|{{User|Waluigi Time}}
|{{User|Niiue}}
|July 23, 2018
|August 22, 2017
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|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 53#Create articles on Play Nintendo games|Create articles on Play Nintendo games]]
|align=left|[[Category talk:Ice Creatures#Do something about this category|Trim down Category:Fire Creatures and Category:Ice Creatures]]
|{{User|Obsessive Mario Fan}}
|{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}}
|June 23, 2019
|September 7, 2017
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|align=left|[[Talk:Map#Reorganize this page|Reorganize Map]]
|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_49#Changing_and_Adding_to_the_Switch_Buttons|Give the Nintendo Switch buttons in Template:Button better color resolution]]
|{{User|LudwigVon}}
|{{User|Eldritchdraaks}}
|July 17, 2019
|December 18, 2017
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|align=left|[[Talk:Note Block#Split into Note Block, Jump Block (New Super Mario Bros. Wii) and Jump Block (Mario & Wario)|Split Jump Block (''Mario & Wario'') from Note Block]]
|align=left|[[Talk:Behemoth#Merge_Behemoth_King_to_Behemoth_or_expand_Behemoth_King_article|Expand the Behemoth King article]]
|{{User|Alternis}}
|{{User|Owencrazyboy9}}
|July 21, 2019
|December 23, 2017
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|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 54#Reorganize and split Gallery:Toys and other Merchandise galleries|Reorganize and split Gallery:Toys and other Merchandise galleries]]
|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 50#The Secret Courses of Remix 10 in Super Mario Run|Create articles on the Remix 10 secret courses in Super Mario Run]]
|{{User|Results May Vary}}
|{{User|Time Turner}}
|July 30, 2019
|December 26, 2017
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|align=left|[[Talk:Goomba#Split the Ice Skate and Swim Ring variants from this article|Split the Ice Skate and Swim Ring variants of the Goomba]]
|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 50#Add anchor links to Power Moon lists|Add anchor links to Power Moon lists]] ([[Talk:Lists of Power Moons|view progress]])
|{{User|FanOfYoshi}}
|{{User|Super Radio}}
|August 17, 2019
|December 31, 2017
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|align=left|[[Talk:Noki#Determine how to handle this page|Split Buckies from Noki]]
|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 50#Give the Wario: Master of Disguise episodes their own pages|Create articles for the ''Wario: Master of Disguise'' episodes]]
|{{User|FanOfYoshi}}
|{{User|DKPetey99}}
|August 28, 2019
|January 23, 2018
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|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 50#Removing bolded text from image captions|Remove bolded text from image captions]]
|{{User|Time Turner}}
|February 11, 2018
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|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 50#Create articles for the Mario Party 4 hosts: Revisited|Create articles for the ''Mario Party 4'' hosts]]
|{{User|Tails777}}
|February 11, 2018
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|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 50#Create articles for Super Mario Odyssey minor objectives|Give the Cap Kingdom objectives proper coverage]]
|{{User|YoshiFlutterJump}}
|February 16, 2018
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|align=left|[[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 51#Create a template for FA archives|Create a template for FA archives]]
|{{User|Toadette the Achiever}}
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==New features==
==New features==
''None at the moment.''


==Removals==
==Removals==
''None at the moment.''
===Remove the above pie proposal===
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|- Pie proposal got removed, lol}}
The above, because pie is not fly. Pizza beatsya. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:51, 1 April 2018 (EDT)<br>
'''Proposer:''' [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]]<br>
'''Deadline:''' When the pie hits your eye, like the moon in the sky.
 
====I Support This====
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}}Pai must dai
#{{User|Super Radio}} There is no need to enforce such a lousy regulation upon other users. Vandalism is vandalism! You can't stop it.
 
====I Believe ''Hotel Mario'' is far Better than ''Super Mario Odyssey'' will ever be!====
#{{user|Wildgoosespeeder}} {{Media link|Peach's message.png|Peach's Cake}} is better and I hope she made lotsa [[Spaghetti]]!
#{{User|LuigiMaster123}} I'm not ashamed to admit it.
#{{User|YoshiFlutterJump}} I never played Hotel Mario though...
 
====Comments====
'''Note:''' Subjects who opposed the P.I.E. proposal were later terminated upon discovery that they had accessed prohibited files in the database only designated to supreme-class personnel. They were later un-redacted when the Supreme Thwomp Overlords devoured the souls of the supreme-class personnel for not delivering them their feather duster tribute. The proposer was then resurrected in the form of {{media link|Klonkey Klong.png|a purple leering gorilla}}.


==Changes==
==Changes==
===Split all multi-items in the ''Mario Kart'' series===
===Add a section to [[MarioWiki:Naming]] regarding technical restrictions===
Okay, this is something that's been bothering me since I first joined this wiki about three years ago.
I'm surprised no one has talked in depth about this yet. Sure, we don't have '''''that''''' many technically restricted names, but we still have some, so I think we should set in stone a policy for these titles. Take the castle levels from ''Super Mario World'' as an example. "#1 Iggy's Castle" is located at "Iggy's Castle" rather than "1 Iggy's Castle"; while the former title is fine, it might still cause some initial confusion for the newer readers. Basically, what I'm proposing is that we start officially use closely-matched titles for subjects if the correct title is technically restricted.
 
One of the habits of choice in 2009/2010 was destroying small articles deemed "stubs" and merging them into parent articles. This included the multi-items from the ''Mario Kart'' series, and no one opposed it then.


While back then everything was merged with good intentions, right now I don't see exactly how those articles are "stubs" at all. It's also not like they're ''just'' multiple items in one; in fact, there are some traits about ''Mario Kart'' multi-items that actually function different from the base item. The most common difference is the multiple items orbiting the player's kart ([[Double Bob-ombs]], [[Triple Green Shells]] and [[Triple Red Shells]] in all games they appear in except ''Double Dash!!'', and [[Triple Bananas]] and [[Triple Mushrooms]] in ''8'' and ''8 Deluxe''), though there are other differences as well (such as automatically being placed behind the player's kart). Plus, it's usually common sense to split out similarly-looking items when nearly everything else about them is different.
A draft of the proposed text can be found [[User:Toadette the Achiever/Technical restrictions|here]].


In addition, the way the subjects are clumped together aren't that impressive either; what else would it be but trying to alternate between subjects when presenting them in separate articles would be better? All in all, these are fairly separate subjects I would like to see re-split.
Also, if you're wondering, Porplemontage green-lighted this proposal.


'''Proposer:''' {{User|Toadette the Achiever}}<br>
'''Proposer:''' {{User|Toadette the Achiever}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' October 12, 2019, 23:59 GMT
'''Deadline:''' April 5, 2018, 23:59 GMT


====Support====
====Support====
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per proposal.
#{{User|TheDarkStar}} - Per proposal.
#{{User|Alex95}} - Per proposal.
#{{User|Doomhiker}} In ''Mario Kart Tour'' these are even more different given that all of the items that are in bunches firing at once, plus some multi-items are character exclusive in certain games too. Per all.
#{{User|YoshiFlutterJump}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Bye Guy}} I support
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per proposal.
#{{user|Baby Luigi}} the triple items aren't identical in function either. they form a shield around your kart, and you obtain them in different places and have different probabilities. by all intents and purposes, they're different
#{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Tails777}} I honestly never thought about that before, but actually seeing it makes me think about it and yeah, I get where you're coming from. Orbiting items especially serve as both offense and defense. So yeah, per proposal.
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} Sounds good to me! Per proposal.
#{{User|Obsessive Mario Fan}} At first I thought otherwise, but we do have other articles for "something but there's more of it" and these are considered separate items.
#{{User|Mister Wu}} Considering that we can't use the actual name, the closest match surely makes sense.
#{{User|MarioManiac1981}} I can remember that even two years ago, these multi-items had their own articles. What was the point of their merging? Beats me. I'm in full support of splitting these.
#{{User|BBQ Turtle}} Per all, this just seems like the sensible thing to do anyway.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} I don't see why not.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} Per all.
#{{User|Niiue}} Per all.
#{{user|Wildgoosespeeder}} The proposal is about allowing as many characters in the original title as possible, if the suggested title has technical issues. When such a case occurs, use the <code><nowiki>{{DISPLAYTITLE}}</nowiki></code> [[mediawiki.org:Help:Magic words|MediaWiki Magic Word]] to correct the title. <code>#</code> in URLs are used for linking to headers in a page name, like [[Iggy's Castle#Overview|this example]]. Even forcing URL encoding brings up an error. [https://www.mariowiki.com/%231_Iggy%27s_Castle] I couldn't get MediaWiki to parse this normally, so a forced URL is used to demonstrate.
 
====Oppose====
 
====Comments====
So if this succeeds, what will happen to the Iggy's Castle article? (Also, remind me for when I start my own franchise, to name a character <nowiki>"<[[#klunk]]>''</nowiki>," symbols included, just to mess with the ensuing wiki.) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:04, 29 March 2018 (EDT)
:It'll be moved to "1 Iggy's Castle", with the display title unchanged so it still shows the proper title. MediaWiki doesn't like certain symbols in page titles, so have fun with that hypothetical wiki if it comes ;) {{User:Alex95/sig}} 11:09, 29 March 2018 (EDT)
Just thought about it but how about a [[:Category:Notice templates|notice template]] for such pages? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 17:00, 29 March 2018 (EDT)
:That's not needed unless even {{tem|DISPLAYTITLE}} cannot display the correct title. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 10:56, 31 March 2018 (EDT)
 
===Give the seven boss Tikis from DKCR their own articles===
Because the rest of their official names have just been discovered in a datamine of the original game.
 
'''Proposer''': {{User|BooDestroyer}}<br>
'''Deadline''': April 5, 2018, 23:59 GMT
 
====Support====
#{{User|BooDestroyer}} Need I say more?
#{{User|YoshiFlutterJump}} These guys are like the Seven Notorious Koopalings.  Each one not only has a name, but is also a character and a boss.  It’s not quite like Gary or Johnson (whose articles SHOULD be deleted) or even the Sammer Guys.  The Tikis are characters—major boss characters at that, and not just minor NPCs.  One of them, Kalimba, even has a Smash 4 trophy.  And the fact that the Tikis only appear in a single DK game should not stop us from giving them articles.


====Oppose====
====Oppose====
#{{User|Alex95}} - Triple Green Shells isn't much different from Green Shells, it's just more Green Shells. Same goes for the other multi-items, it's just more of one item. Character-exclusivity, being dragged or carried, and whether you fire one or all at a time aren't really arguments.
#{{User|Time Turner}} A name, in and of itself, is not enough to substantiate having separate articles (see: [[List of Sammer Guys]]). Is there another reason they should have articles?
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per Alex95, I'm having a hard time justifying a separate article for "item but there's more of it".
#{{User|Alex95}} - Per Time Turner. They may all have a name, but they aren't diverse enough (they all do the exact same thing) to justify individual articles.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per Time Turner.
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per all. Plus, they're not even fought normally at all, which that case would guarantee articles.


====Comments====
====Comments====
Here's the full list:
I forgot to mention, but in order, they're called: Kalimba, Maraca Gang, Gong-Oh, Banjo Bottom, Wacky Pipes, Xylobone, and Cordian. [[User:BooDestroyer|BooDestroyer]] ([[User talk:BooDestroyer|talk]]) 18:07, 29 March 2018 (EDT)
*[[Banana]] → [[Banana Bunch]], [[Triple Bananas]]
*[[Bob-omb]] → [[Double Bob-ombs]]
*[[Green Shell]] → [[Triple Green Shells]]
*[[Mushroom]] → [[Triple Mushrooms]]
*[[Red Shell]] → [[Triple Red Shells]]
*All multi-items in the arcade games not covered here


I think it's also worth noting that [[Banana Bunch]] is the exceptional case here; I'd also support throwing in the ''Donkey Kong Country'' series information seeing as how we already handle [[5 Coin]] and [[10-Coin]]. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:27, October 5, 2019 (EDT)
@YoshiFlutterJump They are different from the Koopalings in that the Koopalings are:
:Exactly. The banana page is an awkward mess because of both that and the stubborn insistence we don't split the peels. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:27, October 10, 2019 (EDT)
*A: Bosses themselves
*B: Characters with actual personality
also, why should Gary or Johnson not have articles? They deserve articles as much as [[Otto]] or [[Heronicus]]. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:05, 30 March 2018 (EDT)
:Let me tell you one thing.  The Seven Notorious Koopalings (that’s what Minion Quest calls them) hardly had personalities before Paper Jam (to the extent of having NO dialogue), and we had articles for them long before then.  While the Tikis are not bosses, they possess bosses and are '''key to the story'''.  As for your second point...minor NPCs shouldn’t get articles just because they have names.  The Tikis are not minor, though. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 23:18, 30 March 2018 (EDT)
::Even just regarding ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', the Koopalings had enough diversity to justify their own articles if the wiki was around then. They each had the same role, but different names and abilities. Regarding the ''SMB3'' cartoon as well, they also had different personalities. The same cannot be said for these Tikis.
::Gary and Johnson, according to [[MarioWiki:Minor NPCs]], their articles are valid. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 23:23, 30 March 2018 (EDT)
::Saying the Koopalings didn't have personalities before ''Paper Jam'' is outright ''wrong'', remember their individual speech balloons in the SMB3 manual? The depictions in the cartoons and comics? Their pre-battle behavior in NSMBW? The Tikis all act exactly the same, and are only ever on screen for like 5 seconds each, '''and''' have no dialog. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:27, 30 March 2018 (EDT)


@alex95: triple items have different probabilities and rarities on your placement than single items (triple green shells do not even appear in ds wifi matches), they also form a shield circling around your kart which makes them more functionality different than single green shells, despite the minor difference, and they take up their own slot separate from green shells. and explain how character exclusivity isn't an "argument" the fact that only some characters can use the specific set of items strengthens the argument for the split rather than not. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 16:53, October 10, 2019 (EDT)
I fail to see how character personalities is any sort of viable argument against article creation. I can get on board with their extremely minor role and their appearance, but not their personality. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 00:54, 31 March 2018 (EDT)
:Alright, you may have a point on whether it circles the racer or not, though ''Double Dash'' is an already noted exception that makes Triple Green Shells handle like regular Green Shells, except you drop two if you take any damage. Not sure about probabilities and rarities, that can just be listed in the game section.
 
:For character specific items, though, would that just mean {{fake link|Triple Green Shells (Koopa Troopa)}} gets its own page from [[Triple Green Shells]]? Just saying Triple Green Shells are exclusive to Koopa Troopa in ''Double Dash'' (which it already does) is enough. Character exclusivity isn't enough for a split, otherwise we'd split [[Metal Mario (form)]] between it and [[Metal Wario]]. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:03, October 10, 2019 (EDT)
I should point out one thing: we don’t even have an article for them as a group.  [[Tiki Tak Tribe]] just covers every enemy in the game, and is not devoted to the boss Tikis. At the very least, we need an article for them as a group. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 13:19, 31 March 2018 (EDT)
::the point about different probabilities is a point in its favor to make it a separate item from the single ones, since practically every other separate item has different probabilities and you obtain them in different placements and rankings. like, the red shell for example can be broken down to just a red-colored shell with homing, like the second upgrade missile from diddy kong racing, but that item also has different rates of obtaining them too. mario kart items don't have deeply nuanced differences from each other (fake item boxes are just see-through bananas with shell hitting capbilities, spiny shells are just red shells that home onto first place, chain chomps are just bullet bills, etc), and even the most minimal effects constitute as a big difference, so that includes the ability to orbit the character's kart in threes and that you obtain it in different positions with different probabilities than you do a single green shell. i don't think character specific items should get their own pages specific to their game appearances though but the fact is that koopa can sometimes get triples as his exclusive in a few games should solidify the point that the games treat triple green shells differently than they do singles. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:09, October 10, 2019 (EDT)
:::It seems like my comment was misinterpreted. What I meant is that in certain games for example, Triple Green Shells cannot be used by all characters, which is yet another difference between the two. It does not mean in any way that they should be split based off their game appearances, or that items that have no variants such as Golden Mushrooms should be split. I just meant that certain variants of items being exclusive to certain characters in certain games is another difference between them and their regular variants and thus is another reason why we should split the bunch items, and is not an individual basis for a split nor a split of a split. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 17:15, October 10, 2019 (EDT)
:::I know the games treat Green Shells and Triple Green Shells as separate items, it'd be a lot more coding if they weren't. But it really is just "Green Shell x3". It creates a barrier around you most of the time, but it otherwise acts exactly like three Green Shells. Probability and character exclusivity I don't think are valid arguments for splitting, unless the item does something completely different when used by a certain character. There are points both for and against this, so I'll say I'll agree with it either way, but I'm more against than for. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:19, October 10, 2019 (EDT)
::::We split other examples of "subject x number", one notable example I can think of off the top of my head being [[Goomba Tower]]s, but others include [[Dango]]s and [[Shy Guy Stack]]s. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 17:21, October 10, 2019 (EDT)
:::::i'd argue that general availability for players is a decent argument for considering a split and not something that can be simply handwaved away {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:33, October 10, 2019 (EDT)
::::::Fair point, I'll probably think about this more. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:40, October 10, 2019 (EDT)


==Miscellaneous==
==Miscellaneous==
''None at the moment.''
===Create administrative position of <font color=red>SUPREME</font>===
I think it’s time to rethink the balance of power on this wiki. The administrative staff does not hold enough power. Sure, they can delete pages, block users, and such. But they can’t control each individual user. And control is the key.
 
Likewise, the ordinary users have far too much power. All on their own, they make huge changes to pages and even the wiki as a whole, simply because it’s something the majority agrees on—and sometimes changes are made outright without any consultation at all! (The moving of '''Off Wave''' to '''Off Waves''' is a prime example. Such an act really should have been discussed at the ''very'' least!)
 
Therefore, I propose that a new position be established: <font color=red>'''SUPREME'''</font> (<font color=blue>'''<font color=red>S</font>'''uper-'''<font color=red>U</font>'''ltimate '''<font color=red>P</font>'''residing '''<font color=red>R</font>'''uler of the '''<font color=red>E</font>'''ntire '''<font color=red>M</font>'''arioWiki '''<font color=red>E</font>'''mpire</font>). I also propose that I myself be made first <font color=red>'''SUPREME'''</font>, of which there is only one of at a time. This would give me complete control over everything wiki-related. I would have access to the source code, for one thing, and be able to control what privileges any given user has. I believe I am fully qualified for this great responsibility. After all, I decided a long time ago that I was admin material. And who better to decide who’s admin material than the future <font color=red>'''SUPREME'''</font>?
 
What cause do you have to support this radical plan? Well, think about it. You would no longer have to shoulder the responsibilities of making your own decisions! You could live the Mario-related part of your life in total IQ-dropping bliss! Still skeptical? Don’t worry. Every person who supports me will receive…(drum roll please)…
 
A LIFETIME SUPPLY OF '''WAFFLES'''!
 
And not just any waffles! Pick any topping! Any flavor! Strawberries! Cheesecake! Syrup! Chocolate! Charcoal! And dare I suggest it…<font color=green>FAWFUL</font> <font color=red>WAFFLES</font>!!!
 
Of course, I would recognize all who supported me through my years on the wiki. [[User:Alex95|Alex95]], for example, would be promoted to position of <font color=green>Captain of the Guard</font>. As a Patroller, he has proven to be quite adept at apprehending vandals. [[User:Yoshi the SSM|Yoshi the SSM]] would become <font color=purple>Chief Secretary and Treasurer</font>, and [[User:Luigi 64DD|Luigi 64DD]]’s status as a Critic Corner writer would make him a valuable <font color=orange>Critical Analyzer and Advisor</font>.
[[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]], of course, would be given the option either to retire with a large severance package (of waffles), or stay on as <font color=green>Prime Minister</font>, with access to source code and semi-limited control over users.
 
Of course, this new system may take some getting used to. But you’ll find that sacrificing every bit of freedom and individuality you have was the best decision you ever made! And when you see me at my coronation, my green-and-black crown being lowered onto my electrified head, you’ll think, “I did this! I supported Ultimate Mr. L! I saved the Super Mario Wiki!”
 
If you want to think at all, that is.
 
'''NOTE: ''' If you or a user you know happens to be a pig, it’s only fair to warn you that not only are pigs not tolerated in the New MarioWiki Empire, they are also Warned, Blocked, Baconized, and mixed in with waffles.
 
'''Proposer''': {{User|Ultimate Mr. L}}<br>
'''Deadline''': April 14, 2018, 23:59 GMT
====Support====
#{{User|Ultimate Mr. L}} How can anyone say no to a ruler like me? (Or to waffles)
#{{User|Alex95}} - Fear me, plebeians.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} Only if I get to be in that position of power.
#{{User|Tails777}} I'm literally only here because that Supreme acronym is supremely impressive. Also, there was something about free waffles?
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per Baby Luigi.
#{{User|Keegster2}} I am certainly a man who can appreciate power AND waffles. (But to be serious, I like how unlike the rest of this wiki's "jokes", this one doesn't resort to "oh man being offensive for the sake of funny".)
#{{User|YoshiFlutterJump}} Thank you for the return of joke proposals!  Per Baby Luigi.
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} The power will definitely beef up, per all.
#{{User|Mad Hunter}} Fawful waffles and Ultimate L's good looks are all I need to convince myself.
 
====Oppose====
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Ze pigs must eat ze waffles. Zat is ze balance of ze nature, just as ze Pinky Kong is ze Stinky Kong.
#{{fake link|WaluigiMaster123}} ({{fake link|talk}}) - I prefer pancakes. :/
#{{User|Drago}} - Nice try. :) But this is still a joke proposal that would be unacceptable if it wasn't April 1. Besides, I have no interest in waffles. :/
#{{user|Wildgoosespeeder}} French Toast.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} I don't like waffles.
 
====Comments====
I disagree with the flagrant misuse of the word "supreme" in this proposal, as it will anger our Supreme Thwomp Overlords. As demonstrated by [https://www.models-resource.com/resources/big_icons/12/11554.png exhibit QRTN] (nicknamed "Quarantine"), Thwomps have the secret ability to devour souls if displeased, and can only be appeased with a payment of ten coins down, and a coin a minute, or a substitute payment of ten billion feather dusters. That being said, there is still the fact that waffles are awful, Fawful wants falafel. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:50, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
 
@Drago What makes you think this is a joke? One does not jest about waffles.<br>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 21:16, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
 
Oh, I forgot to mention...<br>
<small>Ahem.</small><br>
<font color=green>'''''<big>All who oppose me shall not only be deprived of waffles, pancakes, french toast, donuts and <big>PIE</big>, they shall also be banished to the darkest corner of the hellish wasteland known as... STICKER STAR!!! HEH HEH HEH HEH!!!</big><br>'''''</font>
{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 21:16, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
P.S. This happens to pigs by default.
:Then why are you banishing yourself, [[Li'l Oink]]? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:21, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
 
===Declare every day National Yoshi April Fools’ Day===
Because why not?
 
'''Proposer:''' {{User|YoshiFlutterJump}} <br>
'''Deadline:''' When this proposal is removed...
====Support====
#{{User|YoshiFlutterJump}} Per proposal.
====Oppose====
====Comments====
:

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Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so (not, e.g., "I like this idea!").
  • All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
  • For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

How to

Rules

  1. If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
  2. Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option on proposals with more than two choices.
  3. Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for writing guidelines and talk page proposals, which run for two weeks (all times GMT).
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
  5. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
    • Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
  6. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
  7. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
  8. Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  9. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of the total number of voters must appear in a single voting option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
  10. If a proposal with only two voting options has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all.
  11. Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
  12. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
  13. If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
  14. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation (six days for talk page proposals). However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
  15. Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
  16. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
  17. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
  18. Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.

Basic proposal and support/oppose format

This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.


===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "May 11, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====


Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".

Talk page proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.

For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.

Rules

  1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPPDiscuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{SettledTPP}}.
  2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
  3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one (all times GMT).
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.
  5. When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.

List of ongoing talk page proposals

Unimplemented proposals

Proposals

Merge the Wrecking Crew and VS. Wrecking Crew phases into list articles, Axis (ended February 24, 2022)
Do not consider usage of classic recurring themes as references to the game of origin, Swallow (ended March 9, 2022)
Split Mario Kart Tour character variants into list articles, Tails777 (ended May 4, 2022)
Enforce WCAG Level AA standards to mainspace and template content, PanchamBro (ended May 29, 2022)
Change how RPG enemy infoboxes classify role, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 18, 2022)
Trim away detailed special move information for all non-Mario fighters, Koopa con Carne (ended January 30, 2023)
Classify the Just Dance series as a guest appearance, Spectrogram (ended April 27, 2023)
Establish a standard for long course listings in articles for characters/enemies/items/etc., Koopa con Carne (ended June 8, 2023)
Consider filenames as sources and create redirects, Axis (ended August 24, 2023)
Add tabbers to race/battle course articles, GuntherBB (ended November 18, 2023)
Remove elemental creatures categories from various Super Mario RPG enemies, Swallow (ended January 11, 2024)
Standardize the formatting of foreign and explanatory words and phrases in "Names in other languages" tables, Annalisa10 (ended February 7, 2024)
Merge Super Mario Bros. (film) subjects with their game counterparts, JanMisali (ended April 18, 2024)
Remove profiles and certain other content related to the Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia from the wiki, Koopa con Carne (ended April 30, 2024)
Create The Cutting Room Floor link template, Bro Hammer (ended May 7, 2024)

Talk page proposals

Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021)
Split the various reissues of Mario Bros., Doc von Schmeltwick (ended April 22, 2022)
Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022)
Expand source priority exception to include regional English differences, LinkTheLefty (ended January 14, 2023)
Add product IDs in game infoboxes, Windy (ended March 18, 2023)
Remove the list of Super Smash Bros. series objects, Axis (ended May 10, 2023)
Merge Start Dash with Rocket Start, Koopa con Carne (ended August 17, 2023)
Use italics for the full title of the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass, Hewer (ended September 15, 2023)
Split Special Shot into separate articles by game, Technetium (ended September 30, 2023)
Convert the lists of episode appearances for television series characters into categories, Camwoodstock (ended November 22, 2023)
Decide which series certain Yoshi games are related to, GuntherBB (ended December 14, 2023)
Change the Super Mario 64 DS level section to include more specific character requirements, Altendo (ended December 20, 2023)
Replace "List of Game Over screens" and "'Game Over' as death" sections with a "History" section, DrippingYellow (ended December 20, 2023)
Split the Jungle Buddies from Animal Friends, DrippingYellow (ended December 22, 2023)
Make major changes to the MarioWiki:Links page, PnnyCrygr (ended January 10, 2024)
Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)
Merge the "Johnson" running gag into one page, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)
Merge the ghost Bats and Mice from Luigi's Mansion to their respective organic counterparts from the later games, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 20, 2024)
Split Strobomb from Robomb, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 20, 2024)
Split the NES and SNES releases of Wario's Woods, SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) (ended March 27, 2024)
Merge Mii Brawler, Mii Swordfighter, and Mii Gunner to Mii, TheUndescribableGhost (ended March 28, 2024)
Merge Masterpieces to the Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U articles, Camwoodstock (ended March 31, 2024)
Split Mario's Time Machine (Nintendo Entertainment System), or the Super Nintendo Entertainment version along with both console versions of Mario is Missing!, LinkTheLefty (ended April 11, 2024)
Rename Beanstalk to Vine, DrippingYellow (ended April 11, 2024)
Remove non-Super Mario content from Super Smash Bros. series challenges articles, BMfan08 (ended May 3, 2024)
Merge Stompybot 3000 with Colonel Pluck, DrippingYellow (ended May 4, 2024)
Merge Party Ball (item) with Party Ball, GuntherBayBee (ended May 5, 2024)

List of talk page proposals

Unimplemented proposals

# Proposal User Date
1 Create boss level articles for Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Land series Aokage (talk) January 3, 2015
2 Create a template for the Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door badge drop rates Lord Bowser (talk) August 17, 2016
3 Split all remaining courts and boards from their parent articles NSY (talk) September 25, 2016
4 Clean up species categories to only include non-hostile species Niiue (talk) August 8, 2017
5 Clean up Category:Artifacts Niiue (talk) August 22, 2017
6 Trim down Category:Fire Creatures and Category:Ice Creatures Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) September 7, 2017
7 Give the Nintendo Switch buttons in Template:Button better color resolution Eldritchdraaks (talk) December 18, 2017
8 Expand the Behemoth King article Owencrazyboy9 (talk) December 23, 2017
9 Create articles on the Remix 10 secret courses in Super Mario Run Time Turner (talk) December 26, 2017
10 Add anchor links to Power Moon lists (view progress) Super Radio (talk) December 31, 2017
11 Create articles for the Wario: Master of Disguise episodes DKPetey99 (talk) January 23, 2018
12 Remove bolded text from image captions Time Turner (talk) February 11, 2018
13 Create articles for the Mario Party 4 hosts Tails777 (talk) February 11, 2018
14 Give the Cap Kingdom objectives proper coverage YoshiFlutterJump (talk) February 16, 2018
15 Create a template for FA archives Toadette the Achiever (talk) February 18, 2018

Writing guidelines

None at the moment.

New features

Removals

Remove the above pie proposal

passed - Pie proposal got removed, lol
The above, because pie is not fly. Pizza beatsya. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 00:51, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
Proposer: Doc von Schmeltwick
Deadline: When the pie hits your eye, like the moon in the sky.

I Support This

  1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)Pai must dai
  2. Super Radio (talk) There is no need to enforce such a lousy regulation upon other users. Vandalism is vandalism! You can't stop it.

I Believe Hotel Mario is far Better than Super Mario Odyssey will ever be!

  1. Wildgoosespeeder (talk) Peach's CakeMedia:Peach's message.png is better and I hope she made lotsa Spaghetti!
  2. LuigiMaster123 (talk) I'm not ashamed to admit it.
  3. YoshiFlutterJump (talk) I never played Hotel Mario though...

Comments

Note: Subjects who opposed the P.I.E. proposal were later terminated upon discovery that they had accessed prohibited files in the database only designated to supreme-class personnel. They were later un-redacted when the Supreme Thwomp Overlords devoured the souls of the supreme-class personnel for not delivering them their feather duster tribute. The proposer was then resurrected in the form of a purple leering gorillaMedia:Klonkey Klong.png.

Changes

Add a section to MarioWiki:Naming regarding technical restrictions

I'm surprised no one has talked in depth about this yet. Sure, we don't have that many technically restricted names, but we still have some, so I think we should set in stone a policy for these titles. Take the castle levels from Super Mario World as an example. "#1 Iggy's Castle" is located at "Iggy's Castle" rather than "1 Iggy's Castle"; while the former title is fine, it might still cause some initial confusion for the newer readers. Basically, what I'm proposing is that we start officially use closely-matched titles for subjects if the correct title is technically restricted.

A draft of the proposed text can be found here.

Also, if you're wondering, Porplemontage green-lighted this proposal.

Proposer: Toadette the Achiever (talk)
Deadline: April 5, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Toadette the Achiever (talk) Per proposal.
  2. Alex95 (talk) - Per proposal.
  3. YoshiFlutterJump (talk) Per proposal.
  4. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per proposal.
  5. Yoshi the SSM (talk) Per proposal.
  6. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Sounds good to me! Per proposal.
  7. Mister Wu (talk) Considering that we can't use the actual name, the closest match surely makes sense.
  8. BBQ Turtle (talk) Per all, this just seems like the sensible thing to do anyway.
  9. Baby Luigi (talk) Per all.
  10. Wildgoosespeeder (talk) The proposal is about allowing as many characters in the original title as possible, if the suggested title has technical issues. When such a case occurs, use the {{DISPLAYTITLE}} MediaWiki Magic Word to correct the title. # in URLs are used for linking to headers in a page name, like this example. Even forcing URL encoding brings up an error. [1] I couldn't get MediaWiki to parse this normally, so a forced URL is used to demonstrate.

Oppose

Comments

So if this succeeds, what will happen to the Iggy's Castle article? (Also, remind me for when I start my own franchise, to name a character "<[[#klunk]]>''," symbols included, just to mess with the ensuing wiki.) Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:04, 29 March 2018 (EDT)

It'll be moved to "1 Iggy's Castle", with the display title unchanged so it still shows the proper title. MediaWiki doesn't like certain symbols in page titles, so have fun with that hypothetical wiki if it comes ;) Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 11:09, 29 March 2018 (EDT)

Just thought about it but how about a notice template for such pages? --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) (Stats - Contribs) 17:00, 29 March 2018 (EDT)

That's not needed unless even {{DISPLAYTITLE}} cannot display the correct title. Toadette icon CTTT.pngFont of Archivist Toadette's signature(T|C) 10:56, 31 March 2018 (EDT)

Give the seven boss Tikis from DKCR their own articles

Because the rest of their official names have just been discovered in a datamine of the original game.

Proposer: BooDestroyer (talk)
Deadline: April 5, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. BooDestroyer (talk) Need I say more?
  2. YoshiFlutterJump (talk) These guys are like the Seven Notorious Koopalings. Each one not only has a name, but is also a character and a boss. It’s not quite like Gary or Johnson (whose articles SHOULD be deleted) or even the Sammer Guys. The Tikis are characters—major boss characters at that, and not just minor NPCs. One of them, Kalimba, even has a Smash 4 trophy. And the fact that the Tikis only appear in a single DK game should not stop us from giving them articles.

Oppose

  1. Time Turner (talk) A name, in and of itself, is not enough to substantiate having separate articles (see: List of Sammer Guys). Is there another reason they should have articles?
  2. Alex95 (talk) - Per Time Turner. They may all have a name, but they aren't diverse enough (they all do the exact same thing) to justify individual articles.
  3. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per Time Turner.
  4. Toadette the Achiever (talk) Per all. Plus, they're not even fought normally at all, which that case would guarantee articles.

Comments

I forgot to mention, but in order, they're called: Kalimba, Maraca Gang, Gong-Oh, Banjo Bottom, Wacky Pipes, Xylobone, and Cordian. BooDestroyer (talk) 18:07, 29 March 2018 (EDT)

@YoshiFlutterJump They are different from the Koopalings in that the Koopalings are:

  • A: Bosses themselves
  • B: Characters with actual personality

also, why should Gary or Johnson not have articles? They deserve articles as much as Otto or Heronicus. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:05, 30 March 2018 (EDT)

Let me tell you one thing. The Seven Notorious Koopalings (that’s what Minion Quest calls them) hardly had personalities before Paper Jam (to the extent of having NO dialogue), and we had articles for them long before then. While the Tikis are not bosses, they possess bosses and are key to the story. As for your second point...minor NPCs shouldn’t get articles just because they have names. The Tikis are not minor, though. -YFJ (talk · edits) 23:18, 30 March 2018 (EDT)
Even just regarding Super Mario Bros. 3, the Koopalings had enough diversity to justify their own articles if the wiki was around then. They each had the same role, but different names and abilities. Regarding the SMB3 cartoon as well, they also had different personalities. The same cannot be said for these Tikis.
Gary and Johnson, according to MarioWiki:Minor NPCs, their articles are valid. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 23:23, 30 March 2018 (EDT)
Saying the Koopalings didn't have personalities before Paper Jam is outright wrong, remember their individual speech balloons in the SMB3 manual? The depictions in the cartoons and comics? Their pre-battle behavior in NSMBW? The Tikis all act exactly the same, and are only ever on screen for like 5 seconds each, and have no dialog. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:27, 30 March 2018 (EDT)

I fail to see how character personalities is any sort of viable argument against article creation. I can get on board with their extremely minor role and their appearance, but not their personality. BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 00:54, 31 March 2018 (EDT)

I should point out one thing: we don’t even have an article for them as a group. Tiki Tak Tribe just covers every enemy in the game, and is not devoted to the boss Tikis. At the very least, we need an article for them as a group. -YFJ (talk · edits) 13:19, 31 March 2018 (EDT)

Miscellaneous

Create administrative position of SUPREME

I think it’s time to rethink the balance of power on this wiki. The administrative staff does not hold enough power. Sure, they can delete pages, block users, and such. But they can’t control each individual user. And control is the key.

Likewise, the ordinary users have far too much power. All on their own, they make huge changes to pages and even the wiki as a whole, simply because it’s something the majority agrees on—and sometimes changes are made outright without any consultation at all! (The moving of Off Wave to Off Waves is a prime example. Such an act really should have been discussed at the very least!)

Therefore, I propose that a new position be established: SUPREME (Super-Ultimate Presiding Ruler of the Entire MarioWiki Empire). I also propose that I myself be made first SUPREME, of which there is only one of at a time. This would give me complete control over everything wiki-related. I would have access to the source code, for one thing, and be able to control what privileges any given user has. I believe I am fully qualified for this great responsibility. After all, I decided a long time ago that I was admin material. And who better to decide who’s admin material than the future SUPREME?

What cause do you have to support this radical plan? Well, think about it. You would no longer have to shoulder the responsibilities of making your own decisions! You could live the Mario-related part of your life in total IQ-dropping bliss! Still skeptical? Don’t worry. Every person who supports me will receive…(drum roll please)…

A LIFETIME SUPPLY OF WAFFLES!

And not just any waffles! Pick any topping! Any flavor! Strawberries! Cheesecake! Syrup! Chocolate! Charcoal! And dare I suggest it…FAWFUL WAFFLES!!!

Of course, I would recognize all who supported me through my years on the wiki. Alex95, for example, would be promoted to position of Captain of the Guard. As a Patroller, he has proven to be quite adept at apprehending vandals. Yoshi the SSM would become Chief Secretary and Treasurer, and Luigi 64DD’s status as a Critic Corner writer would make him a valuable Critical Analyzer and Advisor. Porplemontage, of course, would be given the option either to retire with a large severance package (of waffles), or stay on as Prime Minister, with access to source code and semi-limited control over users.

Of course, this new system may take some getting used to. But you’ll find that sacrificing every bit of freedom and individuality you have was the best decision you ever made! And when you see me at my coronation, my green-and-black crown being lowered onto my electrified head, you’ll think, “I did this! I supported Ultimate Mr. L! I saved the Super Mario Wiki!”

If you want to think at all, that is.

NOTE: If you or a user you know happens to be a pig, it’s only fair to warn you that not only are pigs not tolerated in the New MarioWiki Empire, they are also Warned, Blocked, Baconized, and mixed in with waffles.

Proposer: Ultimate Mr. L (talk)
Deadline: April 14, 2018, 23:59 GMT

Support

  1. Ultimate Mr. L (talk) How can anyone say no to a ruler like me? (Or to waffles)
  2. Alex95 (talk) - Fear me, plebeians.
  3. Baby Luigi (talk) Only if I get to be in that position of power.
  4. Tails777 (talk) I'm literally only here because that Supreme acronym is supremely impressive. Also, there was something about free waffles?
  5. Waluigi Time (talk) Per Baby Luigi.
  6. Keegster2 (talk) I am certainly a man who can appreciate power AND waffles. (But to be serious, I like how unlike the rest of this wiki's "jokes", this one doesn't resort to "oh man being offensive for the sake of funny".)
  7. YoshiFlutterJump (talk) Thank you for the return of joke proposals! Per Baby Luigi.
  8. Toadette the Achiever (talk) The power will definitely beef up, per all.
  9. Mad Hunter (talk) Fawful waffles and Ultimate L's good looks are all I need to convince myself.

Oppose

  1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - Ze pigs must eat ze waffles. Zat is ze balance of ze nature, just as ze Pinky Kong is ze Stinky Kong.
  2. WaluigiMaster123 (talk) - I prefer pancakes. :/
  3. Drago (talk) - Nice try. :) But this is still a joke proposal that would be unacceptable if it wasn't April 1. Besides, I have no interest in waffles. :/
  4. Wildgoosespeeder (talk) French Toast.
  5. TheFlameChomp (talk) I don't like waffles.

Comments

I disagree with the flagrant misuse of the word "supreme" in this proposal, as it will anger our Supreme Thwomp Overlords. As demonstrated by exhibit QRTN (nicknamed "Quarantine"), Thwomps have the secret ability to devour souls if displeased, and can only be appeased with a payment of ten coins down, and a coin a minute, or a substitute payment of ten billion feather dusters. That being said, there is still the fact that waffles are awful, Fawful wants falafel. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:50, 1 April 2018 (EDT)

@Drago What makes you think this is a joke? One does not jest about waffles.
Ultimate Mr. L without the emblem behind him (for my signature) Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 21:16, 1 April 2018 (EDT)

Oh, I forgot to mention...
Ahem.
All who oppose me shall not only be deprived of waffles, pancakes, french toast, donuts and PIE, they shall also be banished to the darkest corner of the hellish wasteland known as... STICKER STAR!!! HEH HEH HEH HEH!!!
Ultimate Mr. L without the emblem behind him (for my signature) Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 21:16, 1 April 2018 (EDT) P.S. This happens to pigs by default.

Then why are you banishing yourself, Li'l Oink? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:21, 1 April 2018 (EDT)

Declare every day National Yoshi April Fools’ Day

Because why not?

Proposer: YoshiFlutterJump (talk)
Deadline: When this proposal is removed...

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