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===Mario Info=== | ===Mario Info=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|2-6}} | |||
It seems we have a rule that we cannot have Non-Mario info on pages for characters/places/items from other series', like [[Super Sonic]] or [[Zelda]]. However, we should be able to give at least a short back story of what happened in other games, doing so would make a lot of the articles make a lot more sense to viewers who are not fans of that series. I propose that we should be able to do this, AND include some images from previous Non-Mario games where the Place/Item/Character appeared(This may include some articles for things that would not get an article because they are from another series, even if they are shown/implied in a Mario game). | It seems we have a rule that we cannot have Non-Mario info on pages for characters/places/items from other series', like [[Super Sonic]] or [[Zelda]]. However, we should be able to give at least a short back story of what happened in other games, doing so would make a lot of the articles make a lot more sense to viewers who are not fans of that series. I propose that we should be able to do this, AND include some images from previous Non-Mario games where the Place/Item/Character appeared(This may include some articles for things that would not get an article because they are from another series, even if they are shown/implied in a Mario game). | ||
'''Proposer''': [[User:Uniju :D|Uniju :D]]<br> | '''Proposer''': [[User:Uniju :D|Uniju :D]]<br> | ||
'''Deadline''': | '''Deadline''': October 19, 2007, 20:00 EDT | ||
====Support==== | ====Support==== | ||
#{{User|Uniju :D}}I am the proposer, and my reasons are given above. | #{{User|Uniju :D}}I am the proposer, and my reasons are given above. | ||
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::::This seems like a good place to make a note about crosslinking. IE: [[Mario]] links to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario Mario], which also has a link back to [[Mario]]. This keeps the flow of information fresh. -- [[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]] 15:59, 16 October 2007 (EDT) | ::::This seems like a good place to make a note about crosslinking. IE: [[Mario]] links to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario Mario], which also has a link back to [[Mario]]. This keeps the flow of information fresh. -- [[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]] 15:59, 16 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
:::::That would be great if Wikipedia would allow it. I've seen links to us get deleted, though. Even though we rock socks. {{User|Stumpers}} 20:29, 17 October 2007 (EDT) | :::::That would be great if Wikipedia would allow it. I've seen links to us get deleted, though. Even though we rock socks. {{User|Stumpers}} 20:29, 17 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
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===Add Fan Flash Series=== | ===Add Fan Flash Series=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|4-19|do not add}} | |||
I've seen on Wikipedia an Super Mario Bros. Z article. Now it's deleted, but on another language ([http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros._Z French] for example), that article is still there. I think popular fan flash series, such as Super Mario Bros. Z shall be added. But what do YOU think? Shall we add them or not? | I've seen on Wikipedia an Super Mario Bros. Z article. Now it's deleted, but on another language ([http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros._Z French] for example), that article is still there. I think popular fan flash series, such as Super Mario Bros. Z shall be added. But what do YOU think? Shall we add them or not? | ||
'''Proposer:''' {{User|Arend}}<br> | '''Proposer:''' {{User|Arend}}<br> | ||
'''Deadline:''' | '''Deadline:''' October 21, 2007, 15:00 EDT | ||
====ADD THEM!!!!==== | ====ADD THEM!!!!==== | ||
#{{User|Arend}} I'm Proposer | #{{User|Arend}} I'm Proposer | ||
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:Actually its 20 now :P, Also Arend your reason to add it is because its on another wiki. So should we add all Fan stuff from Fantendo too? These Fan Flashes are Fan Fictions! {{User|Xzelion}} | :Actually its 20 now :P, Also Arend your reason to add it is because its on another wiki. So should we add all Fan stuff from Fantendo too? These Fan Flashes are Fan Fictions! {{User|Xzelion}} | ||
::That raises an interesting point. Flash videos take time, skill and patience to create, but so do comix, fan art, and written fanfiction. If we include Flash series, people might start asking why only include one of many media and others might get offended and demand we include it all. We want to keep this site canonical, so we should try to keep all the fanon out or we could get swamped by it. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | ::That raises an interesting point. Flash videos take time, skill and patience to create, but so do comix, fan art, and written fanfiction. If we include Flash series, people might start asking why only include one of many media and others might get offended and demand we include it all. We want to keep this site canonical, so we should try to keep all the fanon out or we could get swamped by it. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | ||
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===Videos For Articles=== | ===Videos For Articles=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|8-12|do not add}} | |||
I propose we add videos to articles such as Mario Party Mini Games so we can see what the mini games are actually like instead of having to imagine what it would be like. | I propose we add videos to articles such as Mario Party Mini Games so we can see what the mini games are actually like instead of having to imagine what it would be like. | ||
'''Proposer''': {{User|Super Yoshi10}}<br> | '''Proposer''': {{User|Super Yoshi10}}<br> | ||
'''Deadline''': | '''Deadline''': October 23, 2007, 19:00 EDT | ||
====Add Them==== | ====Add Them==== | ||
#[[User:Super Yoshi10|Super Yoshi10]] Reasons given above. | #[[User:Super Yoshi10|Super Yoshi10]] Reasons given above. | ||
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{{User|Mrbenio}} | {{User|Mrbenio}} | ||
:I'm '''VERY''' glad you brought that up. ;) (starts removing the video links) {{User|Pokemon DP}} | :I'm '''VERY''' glad you brought that up. ;) (starts removing the video links) {{User|Pokemon DP}} | ||
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===Unoffical Music Articles=== | ===Unoffical Music Articles=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-3|keep}} | |||
We have articles on [[List of albums|Music]] on this Wiki. Quite a few of them are official CD's released by [[Nintendo]], or some Company associated with Nintendo. BUT! It also seems we have articles on music that were NOT put on official CD, aka, '''In-game songs and themes''' (an example being [[List of Songs in Super Smash Bros. Melee]], which is listing the music tracks in the actual game, but NOT the music tracks on the [[Super Smash Bros. Melee: Smashing...Live!|Official CD]]). I propose we remove all In-game songs and themes, and keep only the music articles on official soundtracks that were released by a REAL Company. | |||
We have articles on [[Music]] on this Wiki. Quite a few of them are official CD's released by [[Nintendo]], or some Company associated with Nintendo. BUT! It also seems we have articles on music that were NOT put on official CD, aka, '''In-game songs and themes''' (an example being [[List of Songs in Super Smash Bros. Melee]], which is listing the music tracks in the actual game, but NOT the music tracks on the [[Super Smash Bros. Melee: Smashing...Live!|Official CD]]). I propose we remove all In-game songs and themes, and keep only the music articles on official soundtracks that were released by a REAL Company. | |||
'''Proposer''': [[User:Pokemon DP|Pokemon DP]]<br> | '''Proposer''': [[User:Pokemon DP|Pokemon DP]]<br> | ||
'''Deadline''': | '''Deadline''': October 24, 2007, 22:00 EDT | ||
====Remove all In-game songs and themes==== | ====Remove all In-game songs and themes==== | ||
#{{User|Pokemon DP}} I am the proposer, and my reasons are given above. | #{{User|Pokemon DP}} I am the proposer, and my reasons are given above. | ||
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::But if an actual soundtrack has been released onto a CD, that article is kept, correct? -- [[User:Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] | ::But if an actual soundtrack has been released onto a CD, that article is kept, correct? -- [[User:Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] | ||
:::Tough call, I know how you want every named ''Mario''-related thing to have an article, SoS, but how much could we really write about these songs? How long they are, what CDs and/or video games they're in, whose theme songs they are (if applicable), the actual lyrics... but what else? Maybe all the officially-named songs should be put in articles for the CDs they're released on (to make sure we don't end up with a bunch of stubs that get deleted). And as DP said, all the unnamed songs can just be part of the game articles. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | :::Tough call, I know how you want every named ''Mario''-related thing to have an article, SoS, but how much could we really write about these songs? How long they are, what CDs and/or video games they're in, whose theme songs they are (if applicable), the actual lyrics... but what else? Maybe all the officially-named songs should be put in articles for the CDs they're released on (to make sure we don't end up with a bunch of stubs that get deleted). And as DP said, all the unnamed songs can just be part of the game articles. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | ||
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==="What Other Users Think Of Me Lists"=== | |||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|7-11|do not remove}} | |||
These things are just dumb. We got rid of Cool User Lists, and these are only worse. As you can most likely see, they have caused nothing but bad, and flame wars. Some of these might be OK(Like [[User:Xzelion|Xzelion's]]), but others go over the limit(Like [[User:Pokemon DP|Pokemon DP's]], even if they are all MY quotes. <_<). These are mostly just the depressed people trying to make themselves look more hated, anyway, *continues into a long rant about DP that would getting him ****ing banned if he actually said it*. Therefor, I propose that we ban these, as we did with the Cool User Lists(Which NEVER ACTUALLY CAUSED ANYTHING!). | |||
'''Proposer''': [[User:Uniju :D|Uniju :D]]<br> | |||
'''Deadline''': October 28, 2007, 15:00, EDT | |||
====Remove==== | |||
#{{User|Uniju :D}}I am the proposer, and, blah, blah, blah... | |||
#{{User|Moogle}} Just as bad as the cool users list. | |||
#{{User|Ghost Jam}} Same boat as Cool Users lists. If someone really wants to know about someones past, they can look in the contribution history. | |||
#{{User|Shroobario}} Is wrost then Cool user list and Hated User list (if they existed) make people think bad things of other users! Everyone has a bad point but you should just see the good ones! | |||
#{{User|Stumpers}} My vote is in responce to DP's staement that the Wiki has a right to know. If you have an issue with another user that isn't publically on the Wiki, it deserves to remain private. And really, why post it here just because an issue is related to the Wiki? If it matters that much sysops should be contacted to resolve the issue. | |||
#{{User|King Mario}} I agree with all of the users above | |||
#{{User|Plumber}} Per Stumpers, '''strongly'''. It is not the wiki's business to know of every arguement someone has with somebody. | |||
====Keep==== | |||
#{{User|Pokemon DP}} Hey, if someone flames someone, the Wiki has a right to know about it! These lists show which people have flamed who, allowing them to get what they deserve when they flame. And, you only made this proposal because you are mad at me for adding all of your flames towards me onto my list. You coult end up becoming banned for what you wrote on this Proposal! | |||
#[[User:Zakor1138|Zakor1138]] Just cause its for good intentions. So what? If you act like a lurdo [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lurdo] everyone should know 'bout it. | |||
#[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] - See my comment below. | |||
#{{User|Peachycakes 3.14}} I was against getting rid of cool user lists, and now people are still getting into flame wars without them. But i'm still against restricting stuff you can put on your userpage. | |||
#{{User|Time Q}} Per Peachycakes, just because ''some'' might misuse it doesn't mean for me that nobody should be allowed to use it. | |||
#[[User:Fly_Guy_2]] Pokemon DP's right. | |||
#{{User|Cobold}} - Put on your user page what you want. If there is flaming because of it, then ban the flaming. No reason to fight the cause, there are not too many incidents around. | |||
#{{User|Master Crash}} Not all these quotes are negative, i mean quotes like what Zach121 has is good, or funny ones like 3d's Waluigi and Petey stuff. | |||
#{{User|Xzelion}} Per all, Besides mine are only kept for humor. >.> | |||
#[[User:Mr. Guy|Mr. Guy]] Per DP, thouugh I don't have one | |||
#{{User|3dejong}} sure, some people add stupid flames, but some like putting funny qoutes or what some people think is good about them in their lists. | |||
====Comments==== | |||
DP: -_-' Why do YOU ALWAYS THINK THAT MY REASONS ARE SELF-CENTERED? WHY THE H*** CAN'T YOU JUST DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT I'M NOT DOING THINGS FOR ONLY MYSELF!!!!! {{User|Uniju :D}} | |||
:Did I see some anger? It is the path to the dark side![http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_side] [[User:Zakor1138|Zakor1138]] | |||
::Whoa, whoa, whoa, calm down, Uniju. You continue like that, you will get in BIG trouble. {{User|Pokemon DP}} | |||
I think we should just change it to "Feedback". There should be no negative things. This wiki is not about pointing out if someone says something rude. Why can't people just ignore it?{{User|Purple Yoshi}} | |||
:If you flame someone, you should get in trouble for it. You shouldn't be able to get away with anything bad that you do. {{User|Pokemon DP}} | |||
::Which is why we have Sysops, suspensions and bans. Making black-lists only adds to the problem. -- [[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]] 15:13, 24 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
That's true, just don't overdo it. We all know about what happens if it happens a lot, even without quotes.{{User|Purple Yoshi}} | |||
When I made this list, I had a purely humoristic goal in mind, I didn't try to make myself look hated and other non-sense. You are about the only one that take these lists seriously, and the only one to star flame war over them. As Zakor1138 said, if you act like an idiot, it's only natural for the other to know it. | |||
[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid, and the cool user list DID cause my flame wars, check my archive if you don't believe it.]] | |||
DP, I looked at your user page, and you posted countless censored f-bombs. If Uniju is going to get in trouble for what he posted above, and I posted them on my page wouldn't I be also using the language and the flaming? I thought we could only use those in quotes of Nintendo characters, etc., so how do we justify this? I'm not saying this because I think Uniju's comments are justified, by the way. I'm saying it because I want all of this anger stuff to get gone, quoted or freshly written. {{User|Stumpers}} 01:22, 26 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
i agree with PY. | |||
{{User|Master Crash}} | |||
Most are kept for only humor reasons, however, some are just kept to cause bad blood in the case of Pokemon DP. Therefore if they all stay, the bad blood intensifies, and if they leave, then the bad blood evaporates and we can find humor elsewhere. {{User|Plumber}} 08:30, 27 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
:Pokemon DP's page is also a really good example of the intensification. You can see Uniju's emotions flare as a result. It makes me wonder if Uniju would have calmed down if the list wasn't there. Personally, I like User peace and happiness and whatnot, so I hate flame wars. If these just cause flame wars to last longer, why are we doing them? {{User|Stumpers}} 12:39, 27 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
Uh, this Proposal ended a while ago. :| {{User|Pokemon DP}} | |||
:O rlly? Can I then beg of you to take down your list, not because you have to, but because you're a good, peace-loving person? *big blue eyes* You couldn't say no to this face, could you? {{User|Stumpers}} 22:10, 30 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
::Because I barely have a nice side, no. {{User|Pokemon DP}} In case you didn't catch that answer, I'll say it again. '''No'''. | |||
:::Hmm... someone needs some virtual pie. Regardless, it's not my issue so I'm butting out of it. {{User|Stumpers}} 22:24, 30 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
::::Thank you. And, I hate pie. {{User|Pokemon DP}} I prefer Pizza. | |||
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===Paratroopa Page=== | |||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|2-5|do not merge}} | |||
I think [[Paratroopa]] and [[Red Paratroopa]] should be split into two articles because they're '''different'''. Who agrees? | |||
'''Proposer''': [[User:Fly_Guy_2]]<br> | |||
'''Deadline''': October 29, 2007, 17:00 EDT | |||
====Support Split==== | |||
#[[User:Fly_Guy_2]] I am the proposer, blah blah blah. | |||
#{{User|Stumpers}} Paratroopa should be a disambiguation page that links to Red and Green Paratroopas. We don't put Goomba and Gloomba on the same page, so I would support this split. | |||
====Oppose==== | |||
#[[User:Mr. Guy]] There the same | |||
#{{User|Pokemon DP}} As Mr. Guy said, they are the exact same thing. | |||
#{{User|Xzelion}} lla rep (Per all) | |||
#[[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] If we split up Green and Red shelled Paratroopas we'd have to make new pages for the Yellow and Blue-shelled variations too. Then we'd have to do the same to the [[Koopa Troopa]] colour morphs to be conistant... | |||
#[[User:Booster|Booster]] Not notable enough to warrant a split. What we have now works. | |||
====Comments==== | |||
Umm, then why that red Koopa and normle Koopas toghther in one aarticle? Well that's your anser. Also Fly Guy, you've added some useles info o other pages {{User|Mr. Guy}} | |||
:Pokémon DP, they are not exactly the same. In classical Mario platformers, Green Paratroopers cannot really fly, but merely jump around, and Red Paratroopas fly in the air. This is the same way in Super Smash Bros. Melee, by the way. - {{User|Cobold}} 05:23, 28 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
::"If we split up Green and Red shelled Paratroopas we'd have to make new pages for the Yellow and Blue-shelled variations too. Then we'd have to do the same to the Koopa Troopa colour morphs to be conistant..." (Quote from above...) What's so bad about that? Sure, it's work, but we're a Wiki! <cheerleader> "We write, fight, oh, yeah, that's right!" </cheerleader> {{User|Stumpers}} 17:08, 28 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
:::The problem is that aside from their walking speeds there is no difference between blue and yellow Koopas except thier shell colour. All the differences between the various colours of Shells are already described on their respective pages ([[Red Shell]], [[Yellow Shell]], etc.), therefore, so why should we make '''another'' set of articles?. All it will do will get people frustrated at the number of tiny little pages they have to visit when they could have easiy read all the differences between the races on one [[Koopa Troopa]] page. Then there are the exceptions to the rule (like [[Parakarry]] and his ''light'' blue shell). Finally, you can look at the Koopa Troopa species from a biological point of view. For instance, there are three colour morphs of the Common Grackle, but in field guides they only have one article for the entire species, in which they describe (and picture) the different morphs. That one article includes just as much information as three differenet ones would have, only it was more effective in delivering that info in a clear and percise manner, making it easier to follow than three articles might be, making it better. We want to be a profesional Wiki, and what better way to acomplish this than to emulate the professionals. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | |||
::::Good point. I also just remembered that if you beat a Koopa out of his shell, he can enter a shell of a different color. That doesn't change his species, though. You win. {{User|Stumpers}} 22:50, 29 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
:::::Wow, I didn't even think about [[Beach Koopa|Beach Koopas]]! Kudos to you! - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | |||
::::::Gracias... although it makes me feel like a huge nerd that I knew htat. {{User|Stumpers}} 22:12, 30 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
:::::::You think ''you're'' a nerd? I'm the one applying ornithological practices to classifying Koopas! It's actually one of my goals in life to come up with an evolutionary chain for all Koopa species and then come up with a scientific classification system complete with Latin names! Now ''that's'' nerdy! - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | |||
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===Time Machines Page=== | |||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|9-0|split}} | |||
The [[Time Machine]] page consists of three officially named (one being conjectural) Time Machines, all with significant content to have its own article. Also they effect gameplay (sorta). | |||
'''Proposer''': {{user|Xzelion}}<br> | |||
'''Deadline''': October 29, 2007, 17:00 EDT | |||
====Support Split==== | |||
#{{User|Xzelion}} Per Above | |||
#[[User:Booster|Booster]] -- Three of them are officially named, and have different designs and functions. | |||
#[[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] - Per all. | |||
#[[User:Dodoman|Dodoman]] - Per all (except Walkazo >_>). | |||
#{{User|Stumpers}} On one condition: see below. | |||
#{{User|Pokemon DP}} Per all. | |||
#{{User|Purple Yoshi}}-They are from different games, and are for different things. | |||
#{{User|Time Q}} Per all. | |||
#[[User:MOP|MOP]] - And it is in the Gadd inventions list. | |||
====Oppose Split==== | |||
====Comments==== | |||
My vote stands as long as we can use the [[Time Machine]] page to discuss the concept of time machines... and we could do double duty by listing time machines on the article and making it a psudo-disambiguation page. Sound good? Of course, if you want to just make the article disambiguation until someone gets around to writing it, be my guest. {{User|Stumpers}} 22:45, 22 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
:I agree, there is also an unnamed time machine appearing in [[Super Mario: Verloren in der Zeit|this comic]] which could excellently be placed on the [[Time Machine]] page. {{User|Time Q}} | |||
::Both good ideas. And Dodoman: "except Walkazo"? Pourquoi?!? - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | |||
:::Speaking of that comic, does anyone here speak German? {{User|Stumpers}} 01:25, 26 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
::::At least two users are from Germany and have wonderful English: [[User:Time Q|Time Q]] and [[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]]. -- [[User:Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] | |||
:::::I am from Germany... - {{User|Cobold}} 13:54, 26 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
::::::Good to know, Sos and Cobold! {{User|Stumpers}} 12:40, 27 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
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===Pie For Everyone=== | ===Pie For Everyone=== | ||
<s> | <s>{{ProposalOutcome|passed|12-10|implement}}</s> | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|(joke proposal rejected)}} | |||
I was sifting through old files the other day, and I happen to think "What could make this job better?" Well, the obvious answer was pie. | I was sifting through old files the other day, and I happen to think "What could make this job better?" Well, the obvious answer was pie. | ||
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'''Proposer''': {{User|Ghost Jam}}<br> | '''Proposer''': {{User|Ghost Jam}}<br> | ||
'''Deadline''': | '''Deadline''': November 3, 2007, 15:00 EDT | ||
====Delicious Pie==== | ====Delicious Pie==== | ||
#{{User|Ghost Jam}} | #{{User|Ghost Jam}} | ||
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{{User|Master Crash}} | {{User|Master Crash}} | ||
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===Discuss what goes on the Main Page=== | |||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-5}} | |||
Today I finally took a look at the stuff featured on the Main Page, and saw this in "Did You Know?": <br> "Ax Mummies are ax-wielding mummies [...]" <br> Yeah... as elaborate as that is, I don't think it's absolutely neccessary for information like that to be on the first page people come across on our Wiki. | |||
So, I'm proposing that we have weekly discussions on what kind of stuff makes it to the main page; this includes what's worthy of the news section, what quotes we should use, etc. etc. etc. | |||
'''Proposer:''' [[User:Dodoman|Dodoman]]<br> | |||
'''Deadline:''' November 3, 2007, 21:00 EDT | |||
====Yes to Discussions==== | |||
#[[User:Dodoman|Dodo]] I'm the proposer, yada yada. | |||
====No to Discussions==== | |||
#[[User:Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] - That takes a lot of time. Anyone can change those main page boxes, so if something is wrong or is unneeded, you can simply change it. You can also discuss what should be in those boxes on the template talk pages, in case their is a conflict. | |||
#[[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] - Per SoS and Wayoshi. | |||
#{{User|Cobold}} - I excuse for my bad choices of Trivia items in this section. I guess it would be better if anyone except me would actually be working on it. This is not the case. Why discuss on it when you're not working? | |||
#{{User|Stumpers}} - Sometimes, it seems like there's so much politics that I don't want to touch things because I'm afraid of the reaction. Please don't make the main page like that, too! Besides, trivia is supposed to be about new articles, so there's not much to argue about. Look at the recent changes, then edit. BAM! | |||
#{{User|Pokemon DP}} - Per all. | |||
====Comments==== | |||
I'm sure it was just a minor lazy mishap. Everything in [[MarioWiki:Maintenance/Main page]] has worked so far. {{User|Wayoshi}} 20:56, 28 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
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===Special Mainpage=== | ===Special Mainpage=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-9}} | |||
I think that the main page should be more holday wise like for instance, Halloween is coming and we can put the page full of Halloween colors and some pics created by user to go on the main page. | I think that the main page should be more holday wise like for instance, Halloween is coming and we can put the page full of Halloween colors and some pics created by user to go on the main page. | ||
'''Proposer''': {{User|King Mario}}<br> | '''Proposer''': {{User|King Mario}}<br> | ||
'''Deadline''': | '''Deadline''': November 3, 2007, 21:55 EDT | ||
====Put this on the page when holidays are coming up==== | ====Put this on the page when holidays are coming up==== | ||
#{{User|King Mario}} My reasons given above | #{{User|King Mario}} My reasons given above | ||
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I could see a special main-page for April Fool, but otherwise, that seem pretty useless. | I could see a special main-page for April Fool, but otherwise, that seem pretty useless. | ||
[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] | [[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] | ||
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===Quotes?=== | ===Quotes?=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|12-7|accepted}} | |||
Lately i've been searching around the wikis quotes, and have seen quotes like "whupee heeheeheehee!" when thats just a bunch of giberious and also something like AHHH!!! thats just someone yelling! should we get rid of these? | Lately i've been searching around the wikis quotes, and have seen quotes like "whupee heeheeheehee!" when thats just a bunch of giberious and also something like AHHH!!! thats just someone yelling! should we get rid of these? | ||
'''Proposer''': [[User:Master Crash|Master Crash]]<br> | '''Proposer''': [[User:Master Crash|Master Crash]]<br> | ||
'''Deadline''': | '''Deadline''': November 4, 2007, 22:00 EST | ||
====Remove==== | ====Remove==== | ||
#{{User|Master Crash}} my Reason is given above | #{{User|Master Crash}} my Reason is given above | ||
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===Recently on the MarioWiki...=== | ===Recently on the MarioWiki...=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|3-8|do not remove}} | |||
This section is the least updated on the Main Page, as there just isn't enough news to fill it with. Usually, there is only one section of news worth noting, and that always goes on the sitenotice. | This section is the least updated on the Main Page, as there just isn't enough news to fill it with. Usually, there is only one section of news worth noting, and that always goes on the sitenotice. | ||
'''Proposer:''' {{user|Plumber}} | '''Proposer:''' {{user|Plumber}} | ||
'''Deadline:''' | '''Deadline:''' November 10, 2007, 20:00 EST | ||
====Support==== | ====Support==== | ||
#{{User|Plumber}} Per me =) | #{{User|Plumber}} Per me =) | ||
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::Um, and they can't be together, because? The improvement drive has failed, Promotions are rare, Shroom releases every month. There isn't much to put on the Recently template, however it shouldn't be just done away with. I don't really see a problem with them being together. {{User|Xzelion}} | ::Um, and they can't be together, because? The improvement drive has failed, Promotions are rare, Shroom releases every month. There isn't much to put on the Recently template, however it shouldn't be just done away with. I don't really see a problem with them being together. {{User|Xzelion}} | ||
I dont know what i agree with(though i think i disagree, because it is good info), but it isnt getting changes like it says The Shroom Issue VIII has been released, but Issue IX has been released, it should get updated more.{{User|Alphaclaw11}} | I dont know what i agree with(though i think i disagree, because it is good info), but it isnt getting changes like it says The Shroom Issue VIII has been released, but Issue IX has been released, it should get updated more.{{User|Alphaclaw11}} | ||
:Too true. But as Cobald said, we need to have more freedom in changing it. For instance, I'd change the Shroom thing but the fact that's it's on the Main Page is a bit daunting. I dunno, I need to learn more about the "do"s and "don't"s around here... Anyway, I don't think "Recently" should be merged with "News"; as DP said, "News" is about actual ''Nintendo'' stuff and "Recently" is just Wiki stuff. It's like sugar and salt: they look similar, but mixing them together's a mistake. Sure there's not too much to put in "Recently" but that can be remedied by removing one bullet, as Time Q suggested. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | :Too true. But as Cobald said, we need to have more freedom in changing it. For instance, I'd change the Shroom thing but the fact that's it's on the Main Page is a bit daunting. I dunno, I need to learn more about the "do"s and "don't"s around here... Anyway, I don't think "Recently" should be merged with "News"; as DP said, "News" is about actual ''Nintendo'' stuff and "Recently" is just Wiki stuff. It's like sugar and salt: they look similar, but mixing them together's a mistake. Sure there's not too much to put in "Recently" but that can be remedied by removing one bullet, as Time Q suggested. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | ||
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===Planets=== | ===Planets=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|12-0|merge}} | |||
I propose all planets from Super Mario Galaxy be merged into the respective galaxy article, and the information about the planet made into a subsection of the article. That will allow for fewer articles while still keeping information about the planets. | I propose all planets from Super Mario Galaxy be merged into the respective galaxy article, and the information about the planet made into a subsection of the article. That will allow for fewer articles while still keeping information about the planets. | ||
'''Proposer''': [[User:TheGreatBlockyBoo]] <br> | '''Proposer''': [[User:TheGreatBlockyBoo]] <br> | ||
'''Deadline''': November 10, 2007, 20:00 | '''Deadline''': November 10, 2007, 20:00 EST | ||
====Support Merge==== | ====Support Merge==== | ||
#{{User|TheGreatBlockyBoo}} Per above reasons | #{{User|TheGreatBlockyBoo}} Per above reasons | ||
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Alright, I'll research all planets for merger and addition. Without SMG, it'll take a while...{{User|TheGreatBlockyBoo}} | Alright, I'll research all planets for merger and addition. Without SMG, it'll take a while...{{User|TheGreatBlockyBoo}} | ||
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===[[Cosmic Koopa]] to [[Mecha Koopa]]=== | ===[[Cosmic Koopa]] to [[Mecha Koopa]]=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|7-0|merge}} | |||
The following reasons are: | The following reasons are: | ||
#It shows an image that is found also in [[Mecha Koopa]] article. | #It shows an image that is found also in [[Mecha Koopa]] article. | ||
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'''Proposer:''' {{User|Coincollector}}<br> | '''Proposer:''' {{User|Coincollector}}<br> | ||
'''Deadline:''' November 11, 2007, 15:00 | '''Deadline:''' November 11, 2007, 15:00 EST | ||
====Support==== | ====Support==== | ||
#[[User:Coincollector|Coincollector]] | #[[User:Coincollector|Coincollector]] | ||
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Image:Cosmickoop.jpg | Image:Cosmickoop.jpg | ||
</gallery>}} | </gallery>}} | ||
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===[[Condor]]=== | ===[[Condor]]=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|3-8}} | |||
[[User:Pokemon_DP|DP]] and I waged a brief war on the talk page for the Condor's qualifying for an article. I say yes, he says no. In any case... here is a proposal and whatnot. | [[User:Pokemon_DP|DP]] and I waged a brief war on the talk page for the Condor's qualifying for an article. I say yes, he says no. In any case... here is a proposal and whatnot. | ||
'''Proposer:''' [[User:Dodoman|Dodoman]] (or, depending on how ya look at it, Pokemon_DP<br> | '''Proposer:''' [[User:Dodoman|Dodoman]] (or, depending on how ya look at it, Pokemon_DP<br> | ||
'''Deadline:''' | '''Deadline:''' November 14, 2007, 17:00 EST | ||
====Remove the Condor!==== | ====Remove the Condor!==== | ||
#{{User|Pokemon DP}} It is too minor. It barely effects gameplay; only appearing in [[Target Test|Target Smash]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'', and only appearing as the [[Ice Climbers]] battle entrance in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''. We should not be making articles on every last minor character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. (series)|Super Smash Bros.]]'' | #{{User|Pokemon DP}} It is too minor. It barely effects gameplay; only appearing in [[Target Test|Target Smash]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'', and only appearing as the [[Ice Climbers]] battle entrance in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''. We should not be making articles on every last minor character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. (series)|Super Smash Bros.]]'' | ||
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You guys do know that this proposal is long over, right? >_> {{User|Dodoman}} | You guys do know that this proposal is long over, right? >_> {{User|Dodoman}} | ||
:Ever think of archiving it? -_- -- {{User|Ghost Jam}} | :Ever think of archiving it? -_- -- {{User|Ghost Jam}} | ||
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===Article about "Implied" subject (2nd nomination.)=== | ===Article about "Implied" subject (2nd nomination.)=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|7-3}} | |||
As some of you may know, the wiki have quite a few articles about "Implied" subject, AKA elements that don't actually appear in a game and is only mentioned in passing. In my opinion, most of those implied subject doesnt' deserve to have their own article. | As some of you may know, the wiki have quite a few articles about "Implied" subject, AKA elements that don't actually appear in a game and is only mentioned in passing. In my opinion, most of those implied subject doesnt' deserve to have their own article. | ||
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'''Proposer''': [[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]]<br> | '''Proposer''': [[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]]<br> | ||
'''Deadline''': | '''Deadline''': November 15, 2007, 18:00 EST | ||
====Merge==== | ====Merge==== | ||
#[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] - Do you think I would vote against my own proposal? | #[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] - Do you think I would vote against my own proposal? | ||
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::::::: Meh, if we did a separate list of implied for each games, we would end up with hundred of tiny lists that couldn't be expanded, I think "List of Implied Items" work just fine. | ::::::: Meh, if we did a separate list of implied for each games, we would end up with hundred of tiny lists that couldn't be expanded, I think "List of Implied Items" work just fine. | ||
[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] | [[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] | ||
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===Ashley & Red (Revisit)=== | |||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|7-0|implement}} | |||
As per [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/3#Ashley_.27n.27_Red|this]] proposal, the article [[Ashley and Red]] must be split into to separate articles. | |||
Aside from not a single person who voted on the proposal taking steps to follow through, read the article. There just isn't enough information on the character Red to create anything substantial. It would result in two articles being created, one being virtually unchanged, the other being little more than a stub, resulting in a deletion or a proposal for merging.<br> | |||
-OR-<br> | |||
Two articles being created, both nearly identically in content, resulting in a redirect or proposal for merging. | |||
Until the character of Red starts to play a bigger role, I say we leave well enough alone. | |||
'''Proposer:''' [[User:Ghost Jam|Ghost Jam]]<br> | |||
'''Deadline:''' November 29, 2007, 17:00 EST | |||
====Overturn Previous Proposal==== | |||
#{{User|Ghost Jam}} I am the proposer and my reasons are listed above. | |||
#{{User|Uniju :D}}Per Ghostly Jam | |||
#{{User|Pokemon DP}} Per Traffic Jam. I mean, Ghost Jam. =P | |||
#{{User|ChaosNinji}} Per the Jam of Ghosts. | |||
#{{User|Dodoman}} Red's as worthy of an article as "Gullible Soup". >_> | |||
#{{User|Glitchman}} [[User:Glitchman|Glitchman]] - Per Ghost Jam. | |||
#[[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] - Yeah, I voted to split the articles last time but Ghost Jam has a point about there not being enough information to make it worth while... | |||
====Continue with the split==== | |||
<strike>#[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] Yeah.... No one took the time to split thee page, but ti still say it '''should''' be split. Red have different abbilities, a different personnality (He have more speaking lines than Ashley, infact.) presently, the Ashley page doesn't disccus this, but this could be changed with the split. Sorry for my lazyness...</strike> | |||
<strike>#{{User|Stumpers}} You want someone to split it? Fine. No promises, as today is Thanksgiving. I probably only have five minutes, but I'll do what I can... ASAP.</strike> After trying to write the Red article, I changed my mind. | |||
====Comments==== | |||
Glowsquid: Is there enough unposted information to make a Red article at least a full fourth of the size of the current article (not including templates)? If yes, and it can be proven, I'll pull this proposal.<br> | |||
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Stumpers: My issue isn't with the the article not being split (in fact, that's a whole 'nother matter). My issue is with a split just not being practical based on the information we have. | |||
-- [[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]] 13:47, 22 November 2007 (EST) | |||
:Ah, but you yourself said that we don't ''yet'' have enough information. Wouldn't you rather have a good, established platform now when that infromation does come? Having a platform let's people feel like they can easily edit. Just gimme some time to show you. I've already started, but Christmas decorating pulled me away! :) {{User|Stumpers}} 19:53, 23 November 2007 (EST) | |||
::Now you're just splitting hairs. We don't ''yet'' have enough information on Wario's mother. Shouldn't be have a good, established platform for when the information becomes available? This line of thinking will leave us with a never ending ocean of stubs. If there is sufficient information to create an article about Red, that isn't a stub, then you have an argument. At the moment, however, I don't see how it's possible. -- [[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]] 21:30, 23 November 2007 (EST) | |||
:::Well, I didn't mention Wario's Mother and I don't see how I'm splitting hairs. You'll remember one of the points you made in your proposal was that no one actually made the article, but then said "that's a whole 'nother matter." Long story short, I'm very confused about what's going on. You want something saying that the article that would make "Ashley and Red" a complete article that doesn't need to be split? Fair enough, but I don't understand why you wanted it. I wouldn't have written the Red article (it's not posted yet) if you hadn't put this up... gah! You guys just do whatever you want. I'm done. I only like to write anyway. :) {{User|Stumpers}} 15:54, 25 November 2007 (EST) Mmm... and just cause it will bug me if I don't say this... an implied character is not the same as a defined, major character, obviously. I know, it was just an example. | |||
::::My issue is with the split, which I fell is unnecessary, to be a requirement. The fact that the people who should have done it didn't is a completely different matter for a completely different proposal (I believe there is currently a discussion about it on [[Talk:Main_Page]]). | |||
::::As for the split, you know how things work around here. When a proposal is passed, it essentially becomes a rule that must be followed. By that rule, Ashley and Red still needs to be split. I feel that there is no point given that there isn't enough information on Red to warrant two articles. So, following the trend, I created this proposal to overturn the previous one, making the previous proposal null. | |||
::::I say that you're splitting hairs because you're using the 'other stuff exists' argument. Bridges aren't built without a foundation, societies aren't formed without an economic base, water isn't hydrated with a missing oxygen molecule and wiki articles aren't posted without proper information. -- [[User:Ghost Jam|Chris]] 20:17, 27 November 2007 (EST) | |||
:::::I'm going to have to drop my point just because that was so outrageously amazing. Also, I tried writing the Red article, and gave up for that reason. You'll note that I recently did up the [[Mario and Luigi's Parents]] article... and didn't split it. CHANGE OF HEART! W00T! {{User|Stumpers}} 22:51, 27 November 2007 (EST) | |||
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===Rename Function=== | ===Rename Function=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|23-2}} | |||
I am tired of seeing users have name changes at will. This is a '''privilege''', not a '''toy''', and I definitely feel like it is being abused by many (e.g. "3dejong" to "3Dejong" is a complete waste, as well as switching back to an original username after realizing the name change was not likable, among other things). It is also extra unnecessary work for the bureaucrats to be moving all of your userspace pages with '''each''' change you make. | I am tired of seeing users have name changes at will. This is a '''privilege''', not a '''toy''', and I definitely feel like it is being abused by many (e.g. "3dejong" to "3Dejong" is a complete waste, as well as switching back to an original username after realizing the name change was not likable, among other things). It is also extra unnecessary work for the bureaucrats to be moving all of your userspace pages with '''each''' change you make. | ||
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If this goes through the policy will be in effect starting asap. Another change will be an official request page at [[MarioWiki:Changing username]] (thanks Steve for showing me this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Changing_username example]). | If this goes through the policy will be in effect starting asap. Another change will be an official request page at [[MarioWiki:Changing username]] (thanks Steve for showing me this [http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/HRWiki:Changing_username example]). | ||
'''Proposer:''' {{User|Wayoshi}}<br | '''Proposer:''' {{User|Wayoshi}}<br> | ||
'''Deadline:''' 20:00 | '''Deadline:''' November 30, 2007, 20:00 EST | ||
====Limit Name Changes==== | ====Limit Name Changes==== | ||
#{{User|Wayoshi}} – currently there are no rules on renames, which has led to abuse and excessiveness. These limits are very reasonable, IMO. | #{{User|Wayoshi}} – currently there are no rules on renames, which has led to abuse and excessiveness. These limits are very reasonable, IMO. | ||
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[[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] | [[User:Blitzwing|Blitzwing]] | ||
:It also becomes difficult to find out who is who with this permanent nick changes around. *looks at the user of the above comment* - {{User|Cobold}} 09:11, 29 November 2007 (EST) | :It also becomes difficult to find out who is who with this permanent nick changes around. *looks at the user of the above comment* - {{User|Cobold}} 09:11, 29 November 2007 (EST) | ||
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===Minor NPC's=== | ===Minor NPC's=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|3-2}} | |||
A while back, I remember some users that created a "Minor NPC" Template. I don't know if it's still active, but I don't think it should be. Articles about extremly minor NPC's, with conjecture names like [[Suscpicious Doogan]], do not deserve articles. However, we need a way to mention them. What I am proposing is an article describing, in as much detail as possible, the unnamed minor NPC from various mario games (The RPG's mainly, but Super Mario Sunshine had a lot too). This could be one huge archive, or it could be seperated into different sections. Any oppositions? | A while back, I remember some users that created a "Minor NPC" Template. I don't know if it's still active, but I don't think it should be. Articles about extremly minor NPC's, with conjecture names like [[Suscpicious Doogan]], do not deserve articles. However, we need a way to mention them. What I am proposing is an article describing, in as much detail as possible, the unnamed minor NPC from various mario games (The RPG's mainly, but Super Mario Sunshine had a lot too). This could be one huge archive, or it could be seperated into different sections. Any oppositions? | ||
'''Proposer''' [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]<br> | '''Proposer''': [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]<br> | ||
'''Deadline''' November 30, 2007, 20:00 | '''Deadline''': November 30, 2007, 20:00 EST | ||
====Support==== | ====Support==== | ||
#[[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]](oops) | #[[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]](oops) | ||
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::Good point. If this passes the "Minor Conjecturally-Named Non-Playable Character" article will have to be split up into sections for each RPG. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | ::Good point. If this passes the "Minor Conjecturally-Named Non-Playable Character" article will have to be split up into sections for each RPG. - [[User:Walkazo|Walkazo]] | ||
:::That was what I was thinking of when I voted for this. Either that or separate articles. In responce to your question, Cobold, I would say that each "potentially minor" character like Goomther or Charliaton should get an entry, and a <nowiki>template:main</nowiki> placed in the entry, but to delete the old article? I wouldn't advise it. Ultimatetoad, if you want to do that count me out. I'm hoping just for a list of those characters, with links where available. So... for example someone like Peach would be in the M&L:SS section in my perfect list here, but I wouldn't want her article deleted, obviously. {{User|Stumpers}} 22:49, 27 November 2007 (EST) | :::That was what I was thinking of when I voted for this. Either that or separate articles. In responce to your question, Cobold, I would say that each "potentially minor" character like Goomther or Charliaton should get an entry, and a <nowiki>template:main</nowiki> placed in the entry, but to delete the old article? I wouldn't advise it. Ultimatetoad, if you want to do that count me out. I'm hoping just for a list of those characters, with links where available. So... for example someone like Peach would be in the M&L:SS section in my perfect list here, but I wouldn't want her article deleted, obviously. {{User|Stumpers}} 22:49, 27 November 2007 (EST) | ||
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===Poll of the week=== | ===Poll of the week=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-5|do not add}} | |||
At first I found the Quote of the moment interesting but now it's boring, rarely you find a cool quote. I asked Steve to add <nowiki><poll></nowiki>, with that we could make a poll for each week and put in the place of quote of the moment! The results could be archived. | At first I found the Quote of the moment interesting but now it's boring, rarely you find a cool quote. I asked Steve to add <nowiki><poll></nowiki>, with that we could make a poll for each week and put in the place of quote of the moment! The results could be archived. | ||
'''Proposer:''' {{User|Shroobario}}<br | '''Proposer:''' {{User|Shroobario}}<br> | ||
'''Deadline:''' | '''Deadline:''' December 2, 2007, 20:00 EST | ||
====Support==== | ====Support==== | ||
#{{User|Shroobario}} I'm the You-Know-Who and my You-Know-What are given You-Know-Where | #{{User|Shroobario}} I'm the You-Know-Who and my You-Know-What are given You-Know-Where | ||
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I am not sure what you mean, but we should have a poll like favorite mario character Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Peach. Like on nintendo's site. {{User|Alphaclaw11}} | I am not sure what you mean, but we should have a poll like favorite mario character Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Peach. Like on nintendo's site. {{User|Alphaclaw11}} | ||
Latest revision as of 12:31, April 1, 2024
Mario Infofailed 2-6 Proposer: Uniju :D Support
Oppose
CommentsMr. Guy, you don't agree because an existing rule says otherwise? Thats the reason this is a proposal, and I don't think thats a valid reason. -_-' Uniju :D (talk)
I see Sonic as an exception to the rule. Sonic and Mario have a non-game rivalry that started way back in 1992. That might be something to place an article about. -- Chris 04:10, 13 October 2007 (EDT) In theory this proposal sounds like a good idea. But as everyone else has said, this is Super Mario Wiki. We don't need to know what happened in Ocarina of Time to understand Zelda and Links' role in the Marioverse. And as Cobald said, for Super Smash. Bros. characters the trophies are enough to understand some stuff about thier personalities and some aspects of their personal history (Link is brave, Link saves Zelda a lot, etc.). If people want to find out more, the Internet's a big place, and it's not our job to tell people about Zelda or Earthbound or whatever, just Mario. - Walkazo
Stumpers (talk) 00:21, 15 October 2007 (EDT)
Add Fan Flash Seriesdo not add 4-19 Proposer: Arend (talk) ADD THEM!!!!
Don't add them...
Comments about this oneArend, you should vote yourself. Pokemon DP (talk)
Huntercrusher, I'm sure you know that people usually write about one topic over another because of personal preference. Just because a certain idea started as a result of preference should not be grounds for bashing it. I'm kind of on the fence about this... I'm not sure my vote would matter either way, though. Stumpers (talk) 19:07, 15 October 2007 (EDT)
Who was "add" voter #5? PP Sorry about the fifth "add" vote I submitted. I took it off. DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A WIKI FOR IT!!! JOIN IT. It will be on soon but not now so you just wait! OK!?!? Now end this proposal. And here's the link. [1] It is on the Main Panel if you can't find it. MarioBros777 (talk) Sheesh!!! Whoa! 19 votes! This one has been voted on alot! PP
Videos For Articlesdo not add 8-12 Proposer: Super Yoshi10 (talk) Add Them
Don't Add Them
CommentsSuper Yoshi, PLEASE vote yourself! Also, FOR GOODNESS SAKES!! You didn't add any vote sections to this Proposal! Yeesh, anyone would have enough common sense to add the vote sections! Pokemon DP (talk) No, he gets MY vote! Arend (talk) Pokemon DP:Never heard of the Youtube tag? Arend: I think Pokemon DP was talking about the fact that Super Yoshi didn't add any section to vote. Glowsquid
Who was Oppose voter #2? PP Shroobario I think u put ur vote on the wrong 1 Just sayin King Mario (talk) All we have to do is put links on the article to the video. It's so simple everyone can do it. Everyone SHOULD do it if they want to help out. Mrbenio (talk) 20:35, 16 October 2007 (EDT) You could do something like this on the 'Shroom, like a Video of the Issue? I don't care if it says we can only use youtube on user pages! Just change that law. Oh and Shy guy 27 Just because you have slow internet doesn't mean we all have a slow computer! The wiki is not just centered on you you know! Super Yoshi10 (talk)
Mr Benio: You can't do anything untill the proposal is done, not before it's archived Mr. Guy (talk) Sorry baby, but I put so many on (about 82 articles) already that there is no need to continue pondering this proposal. I gotta keep it up. Why not just give in and help me out? Mrbenio (talk) Okay, snooty. Until this thing is accepted (which it will be), I'll be putting them on a Word Document sheet. Happy? Mrbenio (talk)
I hope not, because I've been finding more, and my brother's been helping, too. It would be a shame and a complete waste of time if this did not pass. It must. If not...well, at least I'll look forward to doing some more for my "Gaming Acheivements" section on my homepage... As a matter of fact, I should stop for a while, for college has gotten harder, and I should be working on my clases a bit more. But, if it passes, I will continue every now and then (GO SUPER YOSHI! MAKE IT HAPPEN!). Mrbenio (talk) This'll be the best thing to happen to these articles scince...writing them!! Mrbenio (talk) Would the opposition change their minds if they might be able to put sites of videos on their homepage, hmmm? Mrbenio (talk) I don't oppose the idea of putting Youtube video on page, but I tihnk we shouldn't put a Youtube link on every page. I think that the Youtube Video tag should be used for thing like obscure bugs and Beta Elements, I don't think we should link to Youtube in the Crystal King article when the battle is already described well in the article itself. Glowsquid To quote DP (don't worry, I'm not going to be a brat and slam you or anything): "Porplemontage set that rule up for a reason! We can ONLY use the Youtube extension on Userpages, get used to it!" You went on to say that it was because of people with really slow computers would freeze up. Do you have another reason, too? The way you wrote it was a tad confusing is all. My Internet varies from time to time in regards to speed (never blazingly fast, mind you), but just using the Wiki seems to slow it down right now. Loading that sample YouTube video didn't do anything bad to it. Stumpers (talk) 21:18, 21 October 2007 (EDT)
At least people will get a better idea on what they look like! Not all screenshots say it all (especially some on this site)! Don't you think it would be better if they saw these things after reading the descriptioins so that they won't have a bad guess on what those things would look like (because I've had a fair share of that problem!)? Mrbenio (talk)
Uuummm... I think videos such as the fights with Very Gnawty shouldn't be linked since they are short and minor, also Doopliss's name being revealed is also unneeded Mr. Guy (talk)
Pretty much, like above these things are already explained in the articles Mr. Guy Walkazo's made his point. And unlike my proposals, this one won't be considered a waste of time. As far as I'm concerned, this proposal will be passed reguardless of the number of those against it. And I will later on put all those links that I saved up on thier proper articles. Face it you guys, Super Yoshi has won this. If we were still able to have user lists on our homepages, I would have added him on. Thank You. Mrbenio (talk) No he hasn't, it's 8 to 12 votes, you just want Super Yoshi's side to win That's how proposals go Mr. Guy (talk) You guys might want to start making a "video requested" template soon (and sorry about Walkazo there). Change your minds, guys! This is a great thing! Mrbenio (talk)
You know, I started doing this just before the proposal was made. In fact, as I might have already said, I was going to propose this anyway. But it seemed that Super Yoshi had the same idea. So there (by the way, it's past 19:00. Have you guys made the verdict yet?). Mrbenio (talk) HEY!!! You guys DO have videos in some of your articles!! I found some while browsing through Mario Kart 64 tracks! And now I remember seeing some others in more articles...none of witch were made by me or my brother! You can't hide this proposal now! Mrbenio (talk)
Unoffical Music Articleskeep 1-3 Proposer: Pokemon DP Remove all In-game songs and themes
Keep Them
CommentsI don't think we should completely get rid of them. There should be a track listing in the game's own article. -- Son of Suns
DP: We just meant that the songs are conjectural, but still valid. It's a shame we can't get official names (same with all other conjectural information), but the info itself is still canonical and worthy of a place on the wiki. - Walkazo
"What Other Users Think Of Me Lists"do not remove 7-11 Proposer: Uniju :D Remove
Keep
CommentsDP: -_-' Why do YOU ALWAYS THINK THAT MY REASONS ARE SELF-CENTERED? WHY THE H*** CAN'T YOU JUST DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT I'M NOT DOING THINGS FOR ONLY MYSELF!!!!! Uniju :D (talk)
I think we should just change it to "Feedback". There should be no negative things. This wiki is not about pointing out if someone says something rude. Why can't people just ignore it?Purple Yoshi (talk)
That's true, just don't overdo it. We all know about what happens if it happens a lot, even without quotes.Purple Yoshi (talk) When I made this list, I had a purely humoristic goal in mind, I didn't try to make myself look hated and other non-sense. You are about the only one that take these lists seriously, and the only one to star flame war over them. As Zakor1138 said, if you act like an idiot, it's only natural for the other to know it. Glowsquid, and the cool user list DID cause my flame wars, check my archive if you don't believe it. DP, I looked at your user page, and you posted countless censored f-bombs. If Uniju is going to get in trouble for what he posted above, and I posted them on my page wouldn't I be also using the language and the flaming? I thought we could only use those in quotes of Nintendo characters, etc., so how do we justify this? I'm not saying this because I think Uniju's comments are justified, by the way. I'm saying it because I want all of this anger stuff to get gone, quoted or freshly written. Stumpers (talk) 01:22, 26 October 2007 (EDT) i agree with PY. Most are kept for only humor reasons, however, some are just kept to cause bad blood in the case of Pokemon DP. Therefore if they all stay, the bad blood intensifies, and if they leave, then the bad blood evaporates and we can find humor elsewhere. Plumber (talk) 08:30, 27 October 2007 (EDT)
Uh, this Proposal ended a while ago. :| Pokemon DP (talk)
Paratroopa Pagedo not merge 2-5 Proposer: User:Fly_Guy_2 Support Split
Oppose
CommentsUmm, then why that red Koopa and normle Koopas toghther in one aarticle? Well that's your anser. Also Fly Guy, you've added some useles info o other pages Mr. Guy (talk)
Time Machines Pagesplit 9-0 Proposer: Xzelion (talk) Support Split
Oppose SplitCommentsMy vote stands as long as we can use the Time Machine page to discuss the concept of time machines... and we could do double duty by listing time machines on the article and making it a psudo-disambiguation page. Sound good? Of course, if you want to just make the article disambiguation until someone gets around to writing it, be my guest. Stumpers (talk) 22:45, 22 October 2007 (EDT)
Pie For Everyone
failed (joke proposal rejected) So, I'm proposing that we have a selection of delicious pies available to any and all of our editors 24/7. Flavors include apple, cherry, blueberry and freedom (due to monitory constraints, it might be wise to limit ourselves to just those flavors). Further, these pies would be made and hand delivered by Wayoshi, using his, and I quote, "1337 wiki skillz". Think about this for a moment. If out active users had a hot, fresh slice of grandmas straight from the oven pie hand delivered to them while they edit....well, just think of the high quality articles that we would gain. A full, satisfied stomach is a power force. Proposer: Ghost Jam (talk) Delicious Pie
No Pie for You (AKA COMMUNISM)
CommentsI vote for glasses of milk instead of pie... ...er, yes, what exactly are you trying to say? - Cobold (talk) 12:41, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
This proposal is perhap the most hilarious thing I ever saw here, good job. Glowsquid What The heck is this supposed to mean? Pie?
heck humor"? Glowsquid Did you ever hear of "Serious threads"? Serious threads are for serious business. Proposals are serious thread. Uniju :D (talk) This is the last time I joke with you people. -_- -- Chris 17:40, 29 October 2007 (EDT) LOL!..... you guys aren't gonna beat up each other are you?
I wish people could have some fun.Purple Yoshi (talk)
Instead of having pie, at the end of every year, there should be rewards for like:
and get like a special userbox for these awards. for instants, there should be a pic of a golden mario trophy, and on the side it says: This user has been the most contributant user in 2007. Didn't we already do the awards thing Master Crash? A couple users won user awards at the annual Mario Wiki awards. And isn't that gonna happen again next year? I guess I am confused, 'cause we have already have done user awards at the end of the year. -- Son of Suns Or maybe I'm wrong....any help? People, there is NOTHING FUNNY about pie. This proposal is SERIOUS BUISNESS. Snack 17:24, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
I know what you mean DP. But that exact thing you just described has been shot down in the past for the potential of increased flaming between users. -- Son of Suns
I cant believe that 11 voters are voting for pie, THIS IS A JOKE! PP
Regardless of what happens, I win. Simply because my proposal is getting Son of Sons all worked up. -- Chris 20:27, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
(:@ OH NOEZ!!!
( %@ AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! Discuss what goes on the Main Pagefailed 1-5 So, I'm proposing that we have weekly discussions on what kind of stuff makes it to the main page; this includes what's worthy of the news section, what quotes we should use, etc. etc. etc. Proposer: Dodoman Yes to Discussions
No to Discussions
CommentsI'm sure it was just a minor lazy mishap. Everything in MarioWiki:Maintenance/Main page has worked so far. Wayoshi (talk) 20:56, 28 October 2007 (EDT) Special Mainpagefailed 1-9 Proposer: King Mario (talk) Put this on the page when holidays are coming up
Don't put this on the page when holdays are coming up
CommentsI could see a special main-page for April Fool, but otherwise, that seem pretty useless. Glowsquid Quotes?accepted 12-7 Proposer: Master Crash Remove
Keep
CommentsAt the very least, they shouldn't be the lead-in quote. -- Son of Suns I'm conflicted on this one. True, things like "Ahhh!" are a bit redundant in principle. But if you know the context it could have meaning. For instance, in one of the Mario Party games, Peach goes, "Booooo!" Alone that sounds like a pointless, generic utterance, but if you actually hear it, it's hilarious! All in all, I just can't decide which way to vote. - Walkazo
Arend: I don't think you understand, this proposal won't delete ALL quotes, only boring and generic one like "AHHH!!!" or "I'm the best!'. Glowsquid Well, the ones i was sorta talkin about was only stuff like: erto robartello berto, or AHH!!! or all that other junk. A quote is suppose to describe the character/article as best as it can (see Snakes' page). If the random gibberish defines the character best it should stay, but if its just some useless quote cause you couldn't think of something else it should be replaced. Xzelion (talk) Exactly Arend, King Mario, we are not saying to remove ALL quotes. We are only saying to remove worthless quotes, like "AHHHHH!!!". All quotes that actually MEAN something will be kept. Get it? Pokemon DP (talk) Oh, well I'm still putting it on keep King Mario (talk) To Plums: If you don't really see any of them, why vote? Recently on the MarioWiki...do not remove 3-8 Proposer: Plumber (talk) Deadline: November 10, 2007, 20:00 EST Support
Oppose
CommentsMaybe we should merge it with the Nintendo News section, since the Nintendo News section gets edited the most it, that way it could have six bullets instead of three. Xzelion (talk)
I dont know what i agree with(though i think i disagree, because it is good info), but it isnt getting changes like it says The Shroom Issue VIII has been released, but Issue IX has been released, it should get updated more.Alphaclaw11 (talk)
Planetsmerge 12-0 Proposer: User:TheGreatBlockyBoo Support Merge
OpposeCommentsUh, we have images of most. Also, if we do this, we'll have to get info on ALL the planets of the galaxy. That reminds me. Can someone identify the galaxies for the planets without merge templates? TheGreatBlockyBoo 16:48, 6 November 2007 (EST)
Mariofanical So do you support the merge? It is possible that the planet is the galaxy or that the planet is the center or centre of the galaxy, with other smaller planets orbiting. So, anyone planning to get info? TheGreatBlockyBoo 20:09, 8 November 2007 (EST)
I guess I'll do that when the game comes out on November 12, 2007. I've seen many more planets already, from a youtube user called TyndelM
Alright, I'll research all planets for merger and addition. Without SMG, it'll take a while...TheGreatBlockyBoo (talk) Cosmic Koopa to Mecha Koopamerge 7-0
therefore, the article must merge with Mecha Koopa Proposer: Coincollector (talk) Support
OpposeComment
Condorfailed 3-8 Proposer: Dodoman (or, depending on how ya look at it, Pokemon_DP Remove the Condor!
Keep the Condor!
CommentsUniju: I never say that. When have I said that? Pokemon DP (talk)
Unless you meant something else. The Unwitty Dodoman (talk)
What happens now with the other minor Super Smash Bros characters?...--Caith Sith 19:53, 16 November 2007 (EST) They're the same Mr. Guy (talk)
It's minor and doesn't have an official name Mr. Guy (talk)
So...he's not conjecture. No, it's the Helicopter Pack article! Mr. Guy (talk) You guys do know that this proposal is long over, right? >_> Dodoman (talk) Article about "Implied" subject (2nd nomination.)passed 7-3 This is an example what the average implied article look like: "(Name of the page.) is an organisation/character/item briefly mentioned in (Insert name of game here.) It is unknow what (name of the page) do or if it actually exist, however (Insert ridiculous speculation based on the name of the subject.)" Of course, not every implied articles are like that, but a good chunk of them are. Most of those implied subject are as major as say, a Mario Kart sponsors, while the sponsor's are mere thrownaway background imagery, the implied are (most of the times) thrownaway mention in a dialogue. Heck, the various Trophy in Super Smash Bros. Melee could be considered more major, since they have backstory info and a representation of what it's talking about, while the average implied is an one-time mention. The goal of this proposal is to merge these articles in various list (More on that later.), this is not actually the first proposal against those Implied articles, the reason the first proposal failed (In my opinion) is because it was sugested that we should merge EVERY implied into one big page instead of various smaller list, most pointed out that this page would have been too big, and I agree. However, in this proposal, the implied wouldn't be merged into one single page, but rather into various smaller list divided by subject (List of Item implied to exist, List of organisation implied to exist and so on.). Of course, not every implied would be merged, some such as the Pixl Queen and Scarlette actually have efect of the plot, and thus, still would have their own articles. Minor implied deseve a mention, but not a full-blown articles, if we allow guys like Old Man Skoo to have an article, we should also create seperate pages for every Mario Kart sponsor out there. Proposer: Glowsquid Merge
Oppose Merge
CommentsStumper: Uh.... To make it short, let's say that every implied that is mentioned more than once (Like Princess Eclair) or have effect on the plot (Like Scarlette) could still have their own articles. Only random one-time mention (Like Old Man Skoo) should get merged. Glowsquid
Ashley & Red (Revisit)implement 7-0 Aside from not a single person who voted on the proposal taking steps to follow through, read the article. There just isn't enough information on the character Red to create anything substantial. It would result in two articles being created, one being virtually unchanged, the other being little more than a stub, resulting in a deletion or a proposal for merging. Until the character of Red starts to play a bigger role, I say we leave well enough alone. Proposer: Ghost Jam Overturn Previous Proposal
Continue with the split
CommentsGlowsquid: Is there enough unposted information to make a Red article at least a full fourth of the size of the current article (not including templates)? If yes, and it can be proven, I'll pull this proposal.
Rename Functionpassed 23-2 Therefore I say we have these limits as an official policy:
If this goes through the policy will be in effect starting asap. Another change will be an official request page at MarioWiki:Changing username (thanks Steve for showing me this example). Proposer: Wayoshi (talk) Limit Name Changes
No Limit on Renames
CommentsIt seems like it would be less work to just ban name changes and make page moves a sysops only function. -- Chris 21:24, 23 November 2007 (EST) LOL, I remebered when Smiddle told 3D to make major name changes, not just chainging a letter Meh name:Lario to Mr. Guy Mr. Guy (talk) Ghost Jam, I think name changes are OK as a change from the norm, something fresh, just not excessively. Also, I don't understand how the 'move' right restriction applies to this proposal. Wayoshi (talk) 22:51, 23 November 2007 (EST)
HyperShroom: Huh? To change your name you need to have a 'Crat do it. And a 'Crat needs to move the user page, user talk page, and user sub pages. Uniju :D (talk) Hypertoad: As Uniju said, only Bureaucrats can rename users . While most name change are quickly done, I remmember there was an user who asked for a name change and had a whooping total of 19 userpages and sub-pages, all of which needed to be moved independantly. And also, the older name of all of these pages had to be redirected to the newer name so there wouldn't be uneeded red link on older pages. I think this proposal was created so there wouldn't be less of this kind of work for the Bureaucrats. Blitzwing
Minor NPC'spassed 3-2 Proposer: Ultimatetoad Support
Oppose
CommentsYou are not supporting yourself, Ultimatetoad? - Cobold (talk) 07:55, 24 November 2007 (EST)
Poll of the weekdo not add 1-5 Proposer: Shroobario (talk) Support
Oppose
CommentsWhen first I saw Random Quote I also liked but it get boring after a time... It would better something like featured Quote. Shroobario (talk) I am not sure what you mean, but we should have a poll like favorite mario character Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Peach. Like on nintendo's site. Alphaclaw11 (talk) |