- 1 Welcome, SmokedChili!
- 2 Re:Quick question about the new picture on "Airship" page
- 3 Re: That SMB3 reference in Super Mario 3D World
- 4 Talk Page Proposal
- 5 M&SG
- 6 Blue Lava Bubble proposal
- 7 Re:Toad Town
- 8 Roshambo Temple tokens
- 9 A few questions about what the Perfect Edition of the Great Mario Character Encyclopedia says about the Koopalings
- 10 Thoughts Page
- 11 Just to inform you on the Koopalings' "case"
- 12 Scans of the manual from the Famicom version of Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
- 13 A candidate for the Koopalings' current story?
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Re:Quick question about the new picture on "Airship" page
The artwork was available for a limited time on one of Nintendo's Press sites, but it was taken down a few days ago. Lucky I saved it beforehand :P
Re: That SMB3 reference in Super Mario 3D World
It appears that in some European versions (such as the UK) it says "Pick a box." and in others (such as the Netherlands) it says "Choose a box to open." I updated the article accordingly. YoshiCookie (talk) 10:15, 10 December 2015 (EST)
Talk Page Proposal
Mario Kart 8 Glider tricks
- You know, I was trying to see if the other characters had a different glider trick whenever they're using the inside drifting bikes, but Larry was the only one that I've truly spotted. I'll look into it later. M&SG (talk) 08:47, 20 May 2015 (EDT)
Blue Lava Bubble proposal
In the Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 guides (written by Fletcher Black and Catherine Browne respectively) they refer to them as Toad Town at least SMG1's does but SMG2's from what I can remember does but I don't know about MKWii and MPDS but SMG1 and 2 yes they are Toad Town if the Prima guides say so. (talk) (edits) 18:51, 24 October 2016 (EDT)
Roshambo Temple tokens
"After collecting the nth Roshambo token, it is unlocked by collecting the (Color) Mini Paint Star in (Place)." The way you worded the unlock requirement for each temple is very easily misunderstood as the token being linked to that mini paint star. I myself was about to clear the unlock req from the article before I finally understood what you were trying to say. Perhaps it should be rewritten to be better understood?-- 09:48, 4 November 2016 (EDT)
A few questions about what the Perfect Edition of the Great Mario Character Encyclopedia says about the Koopalings
As you might have noticed, I recently discovered scans of the Perfect Edition of the Great Mario Character Encyclopedia(「マリオキャラクター大事典 パーフェクト版」), a book published in 1994 by Shogakukan and having the copyright of Nintendo as well in the cover, and I could determine the book they were coming from. As expected, they indeed say that the Koopalings are Bowser's children, but there is something which might be more intriguing: on page 193, Roy is shown as an example of Bowser's lineage (「クッパ系」), does this mean that they are biological children? So far, the term offspring was found on Yoshi's Safari's box (both NA and PA versions) and in four different European sites of Super Mario Bros. 3, strongly suggesting in the latter case that this term originated from Nintendo of Europe rather than from the localization teams, but as far as I know in Japanese material this specific term or equivalent formulations are yet to be found. I preferred being cautious and not adding what is stated in the Encyclopedia as an example that the Koopalings were stated to be Bowser's offspring in Japan until I was sure of the actual meaning of these words, so now I would like to know your opinion on the matter. Also, if you don't mind, I would like some help on two matters:
- the description of the Royal Family (「王 族 クッパをはじめとするカメ族の王たち。コワツバなどがいる。」) on page 35 is a bit difficult to translate for me, does it state The kings of the Turble Tribe originated from Bowser. The Koopalings are part of them?
- on page 232 Ludwig is stated pretty much to be the one who has white hair in the family of the Great King Bowser, does this mean that he's the oldest? So far, the Encyclopedia confirmed that Larry is the youngest of the Koopalings, it would be intriguing if it also confirmed that Ludwig is the oldest.
- Thanks for the answers! Unfortunately, the one before the two numbered questions was worded very poorly so I'll word it better now: based on what is written in the Encyclopedia, can we say that it states that the Koopalings are Bowser's offspring? Since this has become a "delicate" topic, I don't want to add to the words meanings they don't unambiguously convey and since I never studied the Japanese language, I wanted to know from you. Thank you again, I renew my wishes for the new year!--Mister Wu (talk) 09:25, 31 December 2016 (EST)
According to Mariowiki:Userspace, you can't have user subpages that 'don't serve the wiki'. So it would be best to put the things on User:SmokedChili/Thoughts Page onto your userpage instead of having it on another page. Mr squid Talk Edits 10:42, 5 January 2017 (EST)
- The subpage is perfectly fine to have: it's article-oriented and actually a really informative read. And the userspace policy only disallows "opinion pieces or lengthy discussions not related to the Super Mario Wiki".
Just to inform you on the Koopalings' "case"
As a small detail that is probably excessive to add to the wiki right now, the newly opened Japanese Mario Portal has also a section about the games in which the story is reported, with that famous sentence that the story is taken from the manual. This time the Super Mario Bros. 3 story is reported in its entirety, including that 「自分の」 term that was missing from the Encyclopedia. This of course doesn't mean anything relevant, but it's nice to see that apparently at NCL they stopped trying to change the story of the old games as well to match the current depiction of the Koopalings as much as possible.--Mister Wu (talk) 17:55, 5 March 2017 (EST)
Scans of the manual from the Famicom version of Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
When we talked about Blue Bowser, you stated that you found the scans of the manual from the Famicom version of Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels. Are they uploaded online? If so, could you tell me where to find them? At this point, the so called game book mentioned by the Japanese Wikipedia is nowhere to be found, as the last guide I found seems official (it has Nintendo's copyright) but doesn't state that Blue Bowser is Bowser's older brother, it just states that the two are brothers, from what I've seen.--Mister Wu (talk) 18:33, 21 March 2017 (EDT)
A candidate for the Koopalings' current story?
The German translation of the Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros. was finally released and of course I was curious to see what the German story of Super Mario Bros. 3 would have been. To say that I've been impressed by the translation is an understatement. The section that still stated that they are Bowser's children, but with less force, was now completely changed into something else! But let's see what is written in the German translation:
Allerdings macht er sieben Koopalinge zu seinen Untertanen
it pretty much means
Indeed he turned seven Koopalings into his subjects.
First of all, this is nothing like what is written in the Encyclopedia, what surpises me, though, is that this story is very similar to the current Japanese depiction of the Koopalings:
- they are stated to be seven Koopalings, not the seven Koopalings, this could stem from the current Japanese name, ｢クッパ7人衆｣, that might indicate that they are seven among the Bowsers
- there is no implied relationship with Bowser before, and then they are his subjects, consistent with the ｢クッパの手下｣ used to describe them and sometimes even refer to them
- they are not stated to be siblings at all, consistent with the 「仲間」 term used nowadays in Japan when they talk about each other
Could therefore this be the famous current story Miyamoto talked about in 2012? The translator is Hirofumi Yamada, who has translated many Japanese manga in German before, so I doubt he would make such a big mistake while translating from Japanese to German, even missing the ｢兄弟」 term which stated that they are siblings.--Mister Wu (talk) 19:04, 17 October 2017 (EDT)