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===Merging [[Yoshi (species)]] with the Yoshi colors=== | ===Merging [[Yoshi (species)]] with the Yoshi colors=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-3|keep separate}} | |||
Do the colors of Yoshis deserve articles? Most are color variants of the Yoshi (species). Does this mean we have to mere them all? | Do the colors of Yoshis deserve articles? Most are color variants of the Yoshi (species). Does this mean we have to mere them all? | ||
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===Scroll Boxes=== | ===Scroll Boxes=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|4-1|remove}} | |||
The template {{tem|scroll box}} is used in [[MarioWiki:Big Eight|Big Eight]] articles for galleries, quotes, and navigation templates to make the articles look shorter. If the proposal of removing them is accepted, the template should still be kept, as it is used outside of the Big Eight articles as well. | The template {{tem|scroll box}} is used in [[MarioWiki:Big Eight|Big Eight]] articles for galleries, quotes, and navigation templates to make the articles look shorter. If the proposal of removing them is accepted, the template should still be kept, as it is used outside of the Big Eight articles as well. | ||
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===Banner Change=== | ===Banner Change=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|3-0|accepted}} | |||
'''Proposer:''' [[User:Fixitup|Fixitup]]<br> | '''Proposer:''' [[User:Fixitup|Fixitup]]<br> | ||
'''Deadline:''' August 6, 2007, 17:00 EDT | '''Deadline:''' August 6, 2007, 17:00 EDT | ||
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===Moving [[Koopa Paratroopa]]=== | ===Moving [[Koopa Paratroopa]]=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|2-0-4|don't move}} | |||
The flying Koopas are currently under the article name of "Koopa Paratroopa", their official name from Super Mario Bros. However, I believe that we should use a name from more recent games, such as Paratroopa or Parakoopa as the article name. | The flying Koopas are currently under the article name of "Koopa Paratroopa", their official name from Super Mario Bros. However, I believe that we should use a name from more recent games, such as Paratroopa or Parakoopa as the article name. | ||
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===Merging Wario Treasures=== | ===Merging Wario Treasures=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|7-0|merge}} | |||
{{quote2|Anyone else think that maybe all the Wario: Master of Disguise treasures could be put on one page, with a table or something? With price, episode and the description on it|[[user:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]]|[[Template talk:Wario Treasure]]}} | |||
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:From with Grodus said on the template talk page, I'd like to add a bit more. First off all the articles state are: | :From with Grodus said on the template talk page, I'd like to add a bit more. First off all the articles state are: | ||
*Number of the Treasure | *Number of the Treasure | ||
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===Featured Images=== | ===Featured Images=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|3-4}} | |||
There is already the {{[[Template:Featured-image|Featured-image]]}}, we should use it. The system will be exactly like the original FA system. | There is already the {{[[Template:Featured-image|Featured-image]]}}, we should use it. The system will be exactly like the original FA system. | ||
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===Trouble Center=== | ===Trouble Center=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|5-7|try a comeback}} | |||
Face it, folks. The Trouble Center has been rarely used in 2007 after an initial burst, I don't think at all this summer. It's meant for newbies or the experienced to get article help where they cannot, such as knowledge of classic or obscure games. But, both of these kinds of members have fallen through: very few newbs become full members here and usually ask a veteran instead or don't have any questions for article content; veterans work at what they are strongest OR are more involved in sub-communities such as Fantendo or Userpedia instead. | Face it, folks. The Trouble Center has been rarely used in 2007 after an initial burst, I don't think at all this summer. It's meant for newbies or the experienced to get article help where they cannot, such as knowledge of classic or obscure games. But, both of these kinds of members have fallen through: very few newbs become full members here and usually ask a veteran instead or don't have any questions for article content; veterans work at what they are strongest OR are more involved in sub-communities such as Fantendo or Userpedia instead. | ||
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===The Terrible Big Fandom=== | ===The Terrible Big Fandom=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|9-0|delete}} | |||
Ok people, I'm just sick and tired of even seeing the words "[[Big Eight]]". The article is totally nothing but fanon cruft. I think we should just get rid of the article and any mentioning of it within other articles. When you look at it this way all the article is saying is "Uh ok these eight characters appeared playable in early spin-offs before other people and a lot of them are used a lot in their own games or a mainstream game so they are the most important eight characters and since a lot of people think so it is a fact.". Maybe I'm exaggerating, but I don't think so. Oh and, no adding or removing of any characters could fix this thing. WE MUST DESTROY IT WITH FIRE (no not literally) | Ok people, I'm just sick and tired of even seeing the words "[[Big Eight]]". The article is totally nothing but fanon cruft. I think we should just get rid of the article and any mentioning of it within other articles. When you look at it this way all the article is saying is "Uh ok these eight characters appeared playable in early spin-offs before other people and a lot of them are used a lot in their own games or a mainstream game so they are the most important eight characters and since a lot of people think so it is a fact.". Maybe I'm exaggerating, but I don't think so. Oh and, no adding or removing of any characters could fix this thing. WE MUST DESTROY IT WITH FIRE (no not literally) | ||
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====Kill It==== | ====Kill It==== | ||
#[[User:1337Yoshi|1337Yoshi]]-I never thought much about it before, but now that you mention it, it sounds like a waste. | #[[User:1337Yoshi|1337Yoshi]]-I never thought much about it before, but now that you mention it, it sounds like a waste. | ||
#{{User|Cobold}} - The Big Eight (and the Marioverse) have already been made writer guidelines. As such, the Big Eight references in articles should indeed be removed, and Marioverse should be replaces with [[Mario ( | #{{User|Cobold}} - The Big Eight (and the Marioverse) have already been made writer guidelines. As such, the Big Eight references in articles should indeed be removed, and Marioverse should be replaces with [[Super Mario (franchise)|''Super Mario'' franchise]]. | ||
#{{User|YellowYoshi398}} – Per Cobold. | #{{User|YellowYoshi398}} – Per Cobold. | ||
#{{User|Phoenix Rider}} – Definitely. I was thinking the same thing, but Cobold worded it better. | #{{User|Phoenix Rider}} – Definitely. I was thinking the same thing, but Cobold worded it better. | ||
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===New Feature: [[MarioWiki:Chronology]]=== | ===New Feature: [[MarioWiki:Chronology]]=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|8-0|add policy}} | |||
This is a proposal to impliment a new writing policy that would give order to writing about Mario's fictional universe. [[MarioWiki: Chronology]] provides a framework for writing about Mario's "history", as well as settle disputes about where to place items in a "History" or "Biography" section. The intent is not to say what we are writing is the official chronology, only Nintendo can say that. The purpose of the chronology policy is to provide a guide for writers when trying to place the order of games in a history section. | This is a proposal to impliment a new writing policy that would give order to writing about Mario's fictional universe. [[MarioWiki: Chronology]] provides a framework for writing about Mario's "history", as well as settle disputes about where to place items in a "History" or "Biography" section. The intent is not to say what we are writing is the official chronology, only Nintendo can say that. The purpose of the chronology policy is to provide a guide for writers when trying to place the order of games in a history section. | ||
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===Removal: [[Glitch]] Articles=== | ===Removal: [[Glitch]] Articles=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|10-0|merge articles}} | |||
Glitch articles are a problem, as we could have thousands upon thousands of them, although none of them have been officially named. I am proposing that we eliminate all conjecturally named glitch articles and either merge them to a "List of Glitches" article (similar to the [[Beta Elements]] page) or just erase them completely. If this proposal goes through, someone can take action to create a List of Glitches page. If no one cares, the articles will simply be removed. Either way would be fine. However, the [[Minus World]] article should be kept, as it has been referenced in Mario games and has an official name. A list of glitch articles can be found [[:Category: Glitches|here]]. | Glitch articles are a problem, as we could have thousands upon thousands of them, although none of them have been officially named. I am proposing that we eliminate all conjecturally named glitch articles and either merge them to a "List of Glitches" article (similar to the [[Beta Elements]] page) or just erase them completely. If this proposal goes through, someone can take action to create a List of Glitches page. If no one cares, the articles will simply be removed. Either way would be fine. However, the [[Minus World]] article should be kept, as it has been referenced in Mario games and has an official name. A list of glitch articles can be found [[:Category: Glitches|here]]. | ||
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====Comments==== | ====Comments==== | ||
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===[[Microgame]]s=== | ===[[Microgame]]s=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|4-9|split}} | |||
We've had list of Microgame pages, like [[WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$! Introduction Microgames]] and individual Microgame articles. This proposal is to finally set whether we should go by list of Microgames or make an article for each Microgame. | We've had list of Microgame pages, like [[WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$! Introduction Microgames]] and individual Microgame articles. This proposal is to finally set whether we should go by list of Microgames or make an article for each Microgame. | ||
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===Merge [[Zeus Guy (Snifit)]] with [[Zeus Guy (Bandit)]].=== | ===Merge [[Zeus Guy (Snifit)]] with [[Zeus Guy (Bandit)]].=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-11|keep separate}} | |||
Both species were once on the same page, however, Plumber splitted the page in two without asking anyone first. I say the twop page should be merged since the two species have the same name. | Both species were once on the same page, however, Plumber splitted the page in two without asking anyone first. I say the twop page should be merged since the two species have the same name. | ||
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::: But then, so is the Zeus Guy thing. They act different, look different, but have the same name. | ::: But then, so is the Zeus Guy thing. They act different, look different, but have the same name. | ||
[[User:Gofer|Gofer]] | [[User:Gofer|Gofer]] | ||
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===Wayoshi's Return=== | |||
{{ProposalOutcome|vetoed|It's up to the wiki staff to decide on promotions/demotions.}} | |||
As you noticed, Wayoshi has made a huge improvement in attitude since he was demoted. Seeing this improvement, he could be promoted to at least Sysop, without any huge worries. He continues to do Bureaucrat work, even as a normal user, and it doesn't seem to make much sense. So, should we give him another chance at being a Bureaucrat, or at least make him an Admin, or should we forget it, and leave him as a normal User? | |||
'''Proposer:''' [[User:Pokemon DP|Pokemon DP]]<br> | |||
'''Proposed Deadline:''' September 1, 2007, 20:00 EST<br> | |||
'''Date Withdrawn:''' September 1, 2007 | |||
====Give him another Chance==== | |||
#{{User|Pokemon DP}} I think he deserves another chance. | |||
#{{User|Fg}} Yeah give him another chance, and no user is perfect. | |||
#[[User:Walkazo|PP]] Im with Fg on this one. | |||
#{{User|Vruet1}} Give him another chance. | |||
#{{User|Max2}} Ok, you were a ''bit'' Power Mad. But, I'm that kind of forgiving guy. | |||
#{{User|YellowYoshi398}} – Wayoshi has indeed improved in attitude and has probably learned a lesson since the Willy incident, and he made such a good bureaucrat while was one. I'd say he deserves a second chance. | |||
#{{User|SpikeKnifeNeedleSword}} 14:25, 25 August 2007 (EDT) I kinda liked him better when he was a sysop. The good old days.... I just don't think he should be in a position above others (Bureaucrat). | |||
#{{User|WarioLoaf}} what knife said. Can't see him not being above us , though. | |||
#{{User|3dejong}} ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto. | |||
#{{User|Paper Luigi DS}} He's a great beaurocat, and if not sysop at least patroller, he help me alot. another chance! | |||
====Don't==== | |||
#{{User|Uniju :D}} No way, it will just happen all over again, and I still don't trust him...(And what he did was pretty bad...) | |||
#{{User|KPH2293}} 01:55, 25 August 2007 (EDT) -- Sorry, but no. I don't trust him in a position of power after what happened. | |||
#{{User|Plumber}} 13:50, 26 August 2007 (EDT) It's not that I don't trust him, it's that his sysophood drained him of his life. | |||
#{{User|Sadaharu}} Dont trust him, don't like him, its Steve's decision, DID YOU EVEN SEE WHAT HE DID? He demoted himself, ta da. | |||
==== Comments ==== | |||
Before I get any flames, this was entirely DP's idea. Ask him yourself. I will do whatever the wiki decides to do, even if it's not exactly my best wishes. {{User|Wayoshi}} 01:39, 25 August 2007 (EDT) | |||
:If he messes up again, we demote him for good. C'mon, give him another chance here. {{User|Pokemon DP}} | |||
I'm not even sure if this is a legitimate proposal. {{User|Wayoshi}} 13:31, 25 August 2007 (EDT) | |||
Not hating Wayoshi or anything, but having a vote to see who gets to be a sysop or not isn't right. Then again this is a special case... since Wayoshi is a former sysop. But just to establish this, let's not have any more sysop elections here. {{User|SpikeKnifeNeedleSword}} 14:25, 25 August 2007 (EDT) | |||
:If I were the site admin, I wouldn't like something like this either. It's the bureaucrat's right to nominate sysops, and noone else's. - {{User|Cobold}} 14:27, 25 August 2007 (EDT) | |||
::Ultimately, only Steve can decide anyways. I'm sure he will take all these comments and results into consideration, but he will have the final say, and we must respect his decision. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] | |||
Yeah guys, this shouldn't be for us to decide. I think this proposal should be deleted {{User|Purple Yoshi}} | |||
:Agreed. Who or who does not become a sysop/bureaucrat is Steve's jurisdiction, not ours. --{{User|KPH2293}} 18:14, 25 August 2007 (EDT) | |||
::I only put this up, because Wayoshi was a former-Bureaucrat before, and I wanted to give him another shot at, at least being a Sysop. {{User|Pokemon DP}} But, fine, if you want, get rid of this. | |||
:::I don't think we should get rid of this proposal. I think Steve would like to hear what people have to say. Just don't be angry if Steve makes a decision that is opposite of the final proposal result. It's like when Congress votes to show approval or disapproval of an executive action. Congress can not actually change the executive action, the vote is purely symbolic. -- [[User:Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] | |||
Plumber: I guess we should depromote every sysop, it's draining their life. Infact, why we shouldn't block everyone from the wiki? It's draining their life! | |||
[[User:Gofer|Gofer]] | |||
Why don't you go and say your idea to Porplemontage? I'm sure he would get a kick out of it. {{User|Plumber}} 14:02, 26 August 2007 (EDT) | |||
:I'm going to stay neutral however i have a few thoughts on this. | |||
*1) He should be a patroller first | |||
*2) He can be inappropriate in chat (however he can be controlled if I pay more attention and not play Vid games =P) | |||
*3) He is helpful and he does perhaps deserve a second chance. {{User|Xzelion}} | |||
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===Reformat Featured Articles...again!=== | ===Reformat Featured Articles...again!=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|9-0|add policy}} | |||
Featured Articles are an important part of any wiki, and I think it is about time we get users excited about featured articles again. I am propsing we do away with the new PAIR system, and institute a new, simpler system I developed (but heavily based on the successful Wookiepedia FA guidelines). By making the nomination process open to more users, and making it simpler, we will encourage people to get involved in the FA process. This new system will be like the original, but stagnant nominations will be removed after a month of inactivity. That way, we can avoid having huge lists of nominations if no one is working on the articles. All new featured article nominations would have to be recast. If we do not have a featured article by the time the new main page is up, we should invite users to help the Super Mario Wiki find its first featured article. Here is what the featured article nomination page will look like: | Featured Articles are an important part of any wiki, and I think it is about time we get users excited about featured articles again. I am propsing we do away with the new PAIR system, and institute a new, simpler system I developed (but heavily based on the successful Wookiepedia FA guidelines). By making the nomination process open to more users, and making it simpler, we will encourage people to get involved in the FA process. This new system will be like the original, but stagnant nominations will be removed after a month of inactivity. That way, we can avoid having huge lists of nominations if no one is working on the articles. All new featured article nominations would have to be recast. If we do not have a featured article by the time the new main page is up, we should invite users to help the Super Mario Wiki find its first featured article. Here is what the featured article nomination page will look like: | ||
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===Unused Image Deadline=== | ===Unused Image Deadline=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|9-0|allow more time}} | |||
Recently, a user uploaded an image at 23:07, 29 August 2007. Said image was marked for deletion as an unused image at 23:13, 29 August 2007, '''six minutes later'''. While I believe the tag was placed there in good faith, it was still a case of jumping the gun. | Recently, a user uploaded an image at 23:07, 29 August 2007. Said image was marked for deletion as an unused image at 23:13, 29 August 2007, '''six minutes later'''. While I believe the tag was placed there in good faith, it was still a case of jumping the gun. | ||
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===Split [[Bowser]] and Bowser Bones=== | ===Split [[Bowser]] and Bowser Bones=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|3-8|keep merged}} | |||
I think Bowser Bones deserves his own article on the Wiki, seperate from Bowser. | I think Bowser Bones deserves his own article on the Wiki, seperate from Bowser. | ||
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===Super Mario Sunshine "Secret" Areas=== | ===Super Mario Sunshine "Secret" Areas=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|2-5|keep}} | |||
Pages such as [[The Shell]] have been created as pages in their own right. I don't think that they are special enough to be credited in their own right simply because they are "Secret" areas. Besides, you actually need them to finish the game. I'm a little put off by the existence of [[PipeProject: Levels]], however, because they are technically levels. | Pages such as [[The Shell]] have been created as pages in their own right. I don't think that they are special enough to be credited in their own right simply because they are "Secret" areas. Besides, you actually need them to finish the game. I'm a little put off by the existence of [[PipeProject: Levels]], however, because they are technically levels. | ||
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===Cool User Lists=== | ===Cool User Lists=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|12-6-4|delete}} | |||
Many users have a section on their userpage listing other community members they like. Often there is unnecessary conflict and even (pardon) stupid flaming when a user removes someone from this list. I say we get rid of all of these sections – there's no need to hurt anyone's feelings over any one of these. True friends – online or offline – can't be simply added or removed from your life on a list. We have a good group dynamic overall in our community, so let's not wreck it. Another option is to rename & rephrase all these lists so they are neutral, such as "User Neighbors I Know", though removing users could still bring questions and trouble. | Many users have a section on their userpage listing other community members they like. Often there is unnecessary conflict and even (pardon) stupid flaming when a user removes someone from this list. I say we get rid of all of these sections – there's no need to hurt anyone's feelings over any one of these. True friends – online or offline – can't be simply added or removed from your life on a list. We have a good group dynamic overall in our community, so let's not wreck it. Another option is to rename & rephrase all these lists so they are neutral, such as "User Neighbors I Know", though removing users could still bring questions and trouble. | ||
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===List of Mario Kart Sponsor=== | ===List of Mario Kart Sponsor=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|14-0|make this article}} | |||
Some day ago, Wayoshi deleted an article about Wario Mall, an organization briefly mentioned on a spot in Mario:Kart DS. The Mario Kart series is FULL of random sponsors. I thought we could create a list of these organization of one page, since they do exist, but aren't major enough to have their own articles. | Some day ago, Wayoshi deleted an article about Wario Mall, an organization briefly mentioned on a spot in Mario:Kart DS. The Mario Kart series is FULL of random sponsors. I thought we could create a list of these organization of one page, since they do exist, but aren't major enough to have their own articles. | ||
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===Recipes Pages=== | ===Recipes Pages=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|3-9|keep separate}} | |||
Almost all of the Recipe Articles are short and state: | Almost all of the Recipe Articles are short and state: | ||
*What Game | *What Game | ||
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===Mario Cartoons: Split Multiple Episode Pages=== | ===Mario Cartoons: Split Multiple Episode Pages=== | ||
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|9-1|split articles}} | |||
Some of ''[[The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!]]'' cartoon articles are seperated by what cartoon episode they appeared with, such as the article [[King Mario of Cramalot / Day of the Orphan]]. This proposal would split these articles into two independent articles. Each episode is independently named, and in re-releases of the series, such as on video and DVD, the episodes are often grouped differently from the original television release, showing that the pairings are rather arbitrary. While it should be noted what episode each one originally appeared with, I feel each cartoon should have its own article. It's strange having an article that is split in two sections that are basically completely unrelated. | Some of ''[[The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!]]'' cartoon articles are seperated by what cartoon episode they appeared with, such as the article [[King Mario of Cramalot / Day of the Orphan]]. This proposal would split these articles into two independent articles. Each episode is independently named, and in re-releases of the series, such as on video and DVD, the episodes are often grouped differently from the original television release, showing that the pairings are rather arbitrary. While it should be noted what episode each one originally appeared with, I feel each cartoon should have its own article. It's strange having an article that is split in two sections that are basically completely unrelated. | ||
Latest revision as of 18:50, May 28, 2023
Merging Yoshi (species) with the Yoshi colorskeep separate 1-3 Proposer: Knife (talk) (started by Ultimatetoad (talk)) Support Merge
Oppose Merge
Comments"Major differences in Yoshi's Story (So 've heard), " Actually, the only diferences is that they like better (Read: They gain more health when they eat one.) the fruit that matche their color. Really, Only the Black & White yoshi stand out of the crowd. And where the Yoshi with different colloration showed a different personality? I played SMW, SMW2 and YS, and they din't seem to act different. Gofer I am waiting for a response, where did indivual colored Yoshi showed different personnality? Gofer
Actually, Yellow ones have always had that personality *no offence YY* Max2 (talk) Lazy and hungry. Scroll Boxesremove 4-1 Proposer: Cobold (talk) Support Removal
OpposeCommentsPorplemontage (talk) also said he doesn't like them. - Cobold (talk) 15:11, 27 July 2007 (EDT) Banner Changeaccepted 3-0 Agreed UponSupport
OpposeCommentsI think we should he atleasts Mario, Luigi, Bowser,Peach,Yoshi,and Wario in the banners. That's what I think Dry Bones (talk)
Basically. Fixitup The above is something I whipped up. There is a version of the WIKI STUFF banner without Toad and another without Yoshi, I added them because there ended up being room. So everyone please tell me what you think and how I could improve or if they are fine as is. Fixitup
I left this message on Plumber's discussion page and thought I should address it to anyone else who wanted Bowser as well. I know you probably like Bowser but putting him in with Wario and Waluigi without making it look god awful isn't possible. He just doesn't blend well there and to make him proportioned is just out of the question. Trust me, you don't even wanna see how far I got before noticing it wasn't gonna happen. Unless you can actually get me a perfectly transparent bg for all of the Itadaki Street DS art then I can't do it. Fixitup Moving Koopa Paratroopadon't move 2-0-4 Proposer: Cobold (talk) Move to ParatroopaMove to ParakoopaLeave at Koopa Paratroopa
CommentsParakoopa should still be a redirect, at least. Max2 (talk)
Merging Wario Treasuresmerge 7-0
Proposer: Xzelion (talk) (started by Sir Grodus (talk)) Merge
Keep SeparateCommentsAlso all of these show up on the Orphan Pages. Xzelion (talk) OK, this proposal already ended!!! Yeah; and I finished working on the table; but it needs more infomation about the rest of 130 Wario's Treasures! *goes moving this part* RAP (talk) Let's get a move on to the tables I MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Featured Imagesfailed 3-4 Proposer:Plumber (talk) Support
Oppose
CommentsActually, there's plenty of style to talk about. If you don't think you can think of something to say about a picture, then maybe we need to practice here. Example: Princess Peach in Brawl Princess Peach (SSBB) Super Stumpy saves the day. or something. Max2 (talk) Trouble Centertry a comeback 5-7 Our community is just not big enough to sustain the ideal function that was set last year. Oh well, but we would survive. Proposer: Wayoshi (talk) Drop It
Try a Comeback
The Terrible Big Fandomdelete 9-0 Proposer: Fixitup Kill It
Nah Leave The FanonCommentsWhile some characters are obliviousy important than other, deciding who is a Big Eight and who is not is more of an opinion than anything. Per example, do Toad really qualify? Sure, he have his own game... but all he do nodaway is appearing in some spinoff. I don't see the point in it, anyway. Gofer
Commentsum... veterans leavig is true. and that the Trouble Center is like never used... and the fact that some of our users spend way more time at other wikis... but we're sure as heck not low on community! Max2 (talk) Nobody knows about it cause itsn ot on the sidebar. Moogle (talk) New Feature: MarioWiki:Chronologyadd policy 8-0 Proposer: Son of Suns Add
Don't AddCommentsTo Plumber, we would simply be putting them in order of release unless it was obvious that it must be somewhere else. Luigi's Mansion is not speculation, it is in order of release. References are made to the game in titles released afterwards, so it cannot be at the end. We are not speculating on its placement, we are putting it where Nintendo gave it to us. -- Son of Suns Removal: Glitch Articlesmerge articles 10-0 Proposer: Son of Suns
Delete or Merge Glitch Articles
Keep Glitch ArticlesCommentsMicrogamessplit 4-9 Proposer: Knife Go by Lists
Make Articles for Every Single Microgame
CommentsI just want to say that any micro-game article will probably have more information than many of our item articles, especially Paper Mario items (This item can be cooked with this item and another item. This item heals 25 HP. vs. This micro-game was developed by this character. To play the game, the player must do this. On higher difficulty levels, more enemies appear.) Some articles don't have a lot of information, but that does not mean they don't deserve to be articles. Also, I don't think we should split up any current lists of micro-games until the articles are created (and not be created as stubs). -- Son of Suns Everyone seems to think a microgame article would be like this: "(name) is a microgame where you must (whatever)" But they wouldn't. They could have info on all difficulties, levels, a few of them have cheats, and the like. Max2 (talk) Although (most) Microgames do have more to write about than their name and what you do (as Max2 pointed out), they still don't have enough to be full articles. It's a pain to have to go from tiny little article to tiny little article, it would be faster and easier for people to learn about the Microgames if they were all together in one big article instead of 1000s of little ones. And this same mantra should be applied to other stub-esque articles, like Paper Mario items (as cited by Son of Suns), glitches, and many, many more. - Walkazo
My comment is directed toward Pokemon DP: The difference is that the Mario Party ones are mini-games, whereas the WarioWare ones are micro-games. The ones from the Mario Party series have much more bulk to them and therefore warrant their own articles. Microgames on the other hand, are small and rapid-fire, over in seconds. Not worthy of their own article if you ask me. Phoenix Rider (talk)
Merge Zeus Guy (Snifit) with Zeus Guy (Bandit).keep separate 1-11 Proposer: Gofer MergeKeep it that way
CommentsIf then, I guess we should split the Merlee (aswell as the other shaman) article to the various PM incarnation, they are different. Gofer Gofers got a point, and they are both called zeus guy. but i'm staying neutral.
Wayoshi's Returnvetoed by the administrators Proposer: Pokemon DP Give him another Chance
Don't
CommentsBefore I get any flames, this was entirely DP's idea. Ask him yourself. I will do whatever the wiki decides to do, even if it's not exactly my best wishes. Wayoshi (talk) 01:39, 25 August 2007 (EDT)
I'm not even sure if this is a legitimate proposal. Wayoshi (talk) 13:31, 25 August 2007 (EDT) Not hating Wayoshi or anything, but having a vote to see who gets to be a sysop or not isn't right. Then again this is a special case... since Wayoshi is a former sysop. But just to establish this, let's not have any more sysop elections here. SpikeKnifeNeedleSword (talk) 14:25, 25 August 2007 (EDT)
Yeah guys, this shouldn't be for us to decide. I think this proposal should be deleted Purple Yoshi (talk)
Plumber: I guess we should depromote every sysop, it's draining their life. Infact, why we shouldn't block everyone from the wiki? It's draining their life! Gofer Why don't you go and say your idea to Porplemontage? I'm sure he would get a kick out of it. Plumber (talk) 14:02, 26 August 2007 (EDT)
Reformat Featured Articles...again!add policy 9-0 The featured articles of the wiki are articles that represent the best the Super Mario Wiki has to offer. This is not a way to showcase the articles of your favorite characters, items, or the like. An article must…
First, nominate an article you find is worthy of featured status, putting it at the bottom of the list below; see criteria above. Note that a previously featured article cannot be featured on the Main Page again; however, it can be restored to featured status if there are no other featured articles in queue. Others will object to the nomination if they disagree that the article is good enough; they will then supply reasons for doing so, and ways to improve the article (errors, style, organization, images, notability, sources). Supporters adjust the article until the objectors (with reasonable objections) are satisfied. The article is placed on the featured article list and added to the front page queue. Also, if, at least a week after the article's nomination, that article has five supports and no objections, it will be added to the queue, and will be officially known as a "featured article". How to vote: Before doing anything, be sure to read the article completely, keeping a sharp eye out for mistakes. Afterwards, compare the article to the criteria listed above, and then either support or object the article's nomination. If you object, please supply concrete reasons for doing so, and how it can be improved. Please cite which rule your objection falls under. Failure to do so will result in your objection being considered invalid. As stated above, any objections will be looked upon by the nominator, supporters, and anyone willing to improve the article, and action will be taken to please the objectors. Once all objectors' complaints have been solved (or the article has five supports and no objections after at least a week), the article will be added to the queue and be officially known as a "featured article". Also remember to add nominated at the top of the article you are nominating. Every Sunday the next article in the queue will be highlighted on the Main Page as featured, marked with the featured template and removed from the list of nominations. The beginning of the article then appears on the Main Page via the featured articles template. Nominees that are inactive for a month will be eliminated from the nominations list. Proposer: Son of Suns Use this New System
Use the Old PAIR SystemCommentsTo Cobold: I can keep the templates in existence so people can review freelance. Wayoshi (talk) 13:11, 29 August 2007 (EDT)
The system is good, but whatever we decide, we need to get a system and lock it in. As of right now, rules governing FAs have been all over the place. Phoenix Rider (talk) Unused Image Deadlineallow more time 9-0 A while back, I made a note that an image should be used as soon as it is uploaded and was backed by Wayoshi. Now, however, I feel that I was a bit to hasty. I'm seeing more and more images that are being marked for deletion as unused images very shortly after said images where uploaded. I know from experience (as do a great many of you) that sometimes dropping images into articles doesn't always work out, for various reasons (a bit of wikicode is malformed, said images looks like crap in chosen placement, etc.). For these reasons, I'm thinking we should extend the limit a bit. Lets say one day for personal images and 12 hours for everything else. What say you all? Proposer: Chris Allow More Time
Delete Right AwayComments
Split Bowser and Bowser Boneskeep merged 3-8 Now before anyone gives me that "but they da same person omgz" stuff, let me just say that Mario is also the same person as Raccoon Mario, Metal Mario, Superball Mario, and Fire Mario. But then again, they all managed to get their own articles. Oh, and don't tell me that he doesn't deserve an article because he was in one game only. That's Superball Mario's case as well, and, excluding remakes, Raccoon Mario's. Proposer: Dodoman Split the Articles
Keep them Merged
CommentsI don't think you can argue that because forms of characters have their own articles, all different forms of characters should have their own articles. I don't think, for example, that we need an article for Mario's paper airplane form from PM2. If you want to argue for Bowser Bones having his own article, you have to point out that he is important enough to warrant it. (I don't know, haven't played the game.) Is the name even official? - Cobold (talk) 16:42, 30 August 2007 (EDT)
Anyway, I find kind of funny that we have a proposal for splitting a conjectural minor form, but we don't do the same for the officialy named Super Show alter-Ego that cluter up the article. Gofer As Cobold said, just because some characters have artciles concerning different forms doesn't mean they all have to. I think it should be based on how much can be said abouit the different forms. In the case of Raccoon Mario (for example) you can talk about how Mario becomes a Raccoon and how that enhanses gameplay, as well as out-of-game stuff like how Raccoon Mario is practically the mascot for Super Mario Bros. 3, and how much the Raccoon suit was featured in the TV show based on the game. Meanwhile, for "Bowser Bones" all we can really say is that Bowser falls into the lava, becomes a pile of bones that behaves like a Dry Bones before getting smashed by Mario and dumped into a potion by Junior forming Bowser one again. That's not enough info for a whole article. - Walkazo Super Mario Sunshine "Secret" Areaskeep 2-5 Proposer: Phoenix Rider (talk) Delete them
Keep them
CommentsThe Shell is a place, and while the corresponding mission is called "The Shell's Secret", it's not actually a "Secret Level", which is what I think all the confusion is about here. And while we're on the subject of Super Mario Sunshine places, I think there should be a category for Super Mario Sunshine Places. That way the sub-areas and the normal areas can be viewed along side each other. - Walkazo Cool User Listsdelete 12-6-4 Proposer: Wayoshi (talk) Delete Them All
Rephrase for Neutrality
Keep As Is
CommentsCould we do something like, users we've come across? or at least something like that. Master Crash (talk) oh.....Master Crash (talk) While I agree that we should nuke the cool user list, I have the impression it would create a flame war as bad as the one over the removal of featured article. Thus, I'm kind of neutral on it. Glowsquid I havn't seen a flame war, yet, but its stupid to fight over something like this!
can i do two? 0_o Master Crash (talk) List of Mario Kart Sponsormake this article 14-0 Proposer: Glowsquid Create that list
NayCommentsI've gathered up most of the things. Though, I probably missed some, including Wario Mall. But a huge in order (except for Nintendo and Mario Kart) is:
Is this most of it? I went trough EVERY course and try looking for them. Minimariolover10 (talk) Do'h! I forgot. These are the only ones I found in Mario Kart DS. Sorry! I know they're more! Minimariolover10 (talk) I could try looking for adds in Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (I already do it for fun anyway), but that's the only Mario Kary game I have other than DS. - Walkazo Do it! And don't pic random order, do it in order, because the past stuff in Mario Kart DS don't advertise. Maybe my bro SonicMario and I can do race to double search in Mario Kart 64. Does anyone have Super Circuit or the first one? Minimariolover10 (talk)
{{construction}} because there have got to be more. There's no adverts in Super Circuit b/c the stages are flat, just like the original. I just wanna say thanks for going through all of this :) Stumpers (talk) O rly? OK. Now Double Dash, 64, and finish Mario Kart DS. Minimariolover10 (talk) I've seen one thats not on that list in mario kart 64: koopa air.Super Yoshi 10. Should I add it?Super Yoshi 10 That's not a list of ads in all the Mario Karts. It's just DS. Start another one on the comments if you feel like it, not add to list! Minimariolover10 (talk)
What? You mean Mario Kart DS has almost all the ads? Minimariolover10 (talk) Recipes Pageskeep separate 3-9
All which would be included in a table. Table shown here, Credit to SpikeKnifeNeedleSword for the design. This would work such as the Badges page. Lets face it they're too minor and too many of them. Proposer: Xzelion (talk) (started by SpikeKnifeNeedleSword (talk)) Merge
Keep Separate
CommentsSon of Sun: Your example would be a little more convincing if you didn't purposely choose a stub. For normal items, you can talk about were they are found, if they are revallant to the plot (Like the Dried Shroom) ,how you can obtain them apart for beating up random enemy, and how they can be used for cooking. For a recipe, you simply say which item can be used for cooking them and their effects, deffinately a table job IMO. Glowsquid I think there's been some confusion between recipes and food items. As far as I know, Recipes are "Item 1 + Item 2 = Item 3", not the food items involved, which is what seems to be the common belief (Food Items are even categorized as Recipies, which makes no sence). I'll use the Dried Shroom article to highlight my point: The text part is about the item Dried Shroom, and the "Recipes" secion is a list of the recipes it's used in. Make a list of the recipes, but keep the articles about the items. - Walkazo Look at the Shroom Steak article. There's numerous ways to make one. If we were to list all possible ways of making each item, the chart would be huge. Also, a list makes it harder to describe items in detail, such as is it worth the money to cook, or is it unworthy, and should only be made once just for the recipe log? Booster There are problems on with both solutions. The current way, we have a high number of articles that are just a few words shy of stub-status (EX: Fried Shroom). The other way, we end up with a handful of very, very long articles (EX: Shroom Steak). We need to find a middle ground. -- Chris 20:01, 17 September 2007 (EDT) Mario Cartoons: Split Multiple Episode Pagessplit articles 9-1 Proposer: Son of Suns Split these Articles
Keep them Merged
CommentsMinimariolover10: Could you expand on your comment about cartoon-learners. Most of the Mario cartoon episodes were "half-episodes" (half of the half-hour show), but they all have plots and deserve their own articles. I couldn't even find an episode called cartoon-learners... - Walkazo If this proposal goes through (and it probably will), I think that we should integrate the live-action segments from The Legend of Zelda cartoons into the chronology of the segments from the Mario cartoon episodes, like so:
And so on, meaning that every fifth segment would be from the Legend of Zelda, for a total of sixty-five segments. -- Booster
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