Talk:List of references in third-party video games

Name Change

Is List of Mario references in non-Nintendo video games more appropriate page name than List of Mario references in third-party video games? - Infinite8 08:49, 27 July 2017 (EDT)

Listing of Platforms

I would like to ask: something that was inconsistent is the listing of platforms, as some of them lists the platform of the game, but others left out the description. Some even go with a vague "Multiplatform". What is the standard? Winstein (talk) 01:29, 14 December 2018 (EST)

Splitting pages

With the increasing amount of licensed Mario crossovers and cameos in games nowadays, I think it'd be a good idea to follow Zelda Wiki's example and split this page into two: one listing licensed Mario cameos (such as the alternate Mario costumes in Tekken Tag Team Tournament 2), and one listing unlicensed references (such as the off-brand "Mario" character in The Simpsons Game). --Bee Kirby (talk) 15:30, June 16, 2019 (EDT)

Elytra

Currently the Elytra from Minecraft is listed as a reference to the Wing Cap. I attempted to remove this on the basis that gliding in video games isn't an obscure concept, but it was reverted because they have the same mechanic of swooping up and down to gain momentum. I still don't really see this as an intentional reference though, and I've played other games that have gliding items with identical mechanics (specifically all three editions of Disney Infinity and Lego DC Supervillains come to mind). I'm convinced this is just a common video game mechanic and not intentionally a reference. Of course, this could easily be settled if anyone finds anything from Mojang developers specifically mentioning the Wing Cap as an inspiration for the Elytra. Thoughts? -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 14:42, June 20, 2020 (EDT)

Exactly, I think this entry is pretty weak. A loose concept using similar controls to something that appeared in one game doesn't seem intentional to me, and I can't find any developer comments or such relating the Elytra with the Wing Cap. I'd say to remove it. Scrooge200 (talk) 15:02, June 20, 2020 (EDT)

Well, I was able to find a tweet by one of the developers just before the Elytra was revealed comparing a "secret upcoming feature" to Mario 64, so I guess we can keep it since they at least acknowledged the similarity. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 15:27, June 20, 2020 (EDT)

Unused content

So in Hebereke no Popoon (Arcade), there's an unused sprite for Roy Koopa, likely meant as a placeholder for cutscenes. Would it be worth mentioning? Cuz the list of Mario references in Nintendo video games mentions the unused Mario model from Pikmin. --LucianoTheWindowsFan (talk) 13:04, April 15, 2021 (EDT)

Yeah, I think that's fine. 13:36, April 15, 2021 (EDT)

Mario reference in Sonic the Hedgehog (16-Bit) prototype

In the prototype for Sonic the Hedgehog (16-Bit, 1991), Sonic has an act clear animation resembling Mario's famous jumping pose. This is referenced in Sonic Mania. Yours truly, Princess Toadstoo-- I mean NintendoFan08. 16:58, January 7, 2023 (EST)

Mario didn't invent "punching upwards whiles jumping." Sonic is just using it as a "yay" gesture. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:32, October 5, 2022 (EDT)

Catlateral Damage

In Catlateral Damage, one of the things you can knock down is a fictional video game called God's Tower, which has the same blue ladders and red girders as Donkey Kong on the box. Does this count? Sadly there's no pictures I can show.--74.64.68.192

DC Injustice 2

During an interaction between Supergirl and Brainiac (I think), Supergirl will say “your princess is in another castle, Brainiac”. Here’s the video I got this info from: https://youtu.be/0vibZl63OYg Yours truly, Princess Toadstoo-- I mean NintendoFan08. 15:00, March 9, 2023 (EST)

The Wreck-It Ralph videogame

I have watched all the Wii cutscenes with dialogue, but Felix's (handy boy) "Who needs mushrooms [...]" dialogue never comes up. Even DS and 3DS not have the mushroom quote. Perhaps this quote is simply unused data found in the game files? Let me know.  ^P_nn^yC_ryg^r  03:09, August 2, 2024 (EDT)

The Flintstones: The Treasure of Sierra Madrock

I don’t know if this counts as a reference, or it’s purely a coincidence, but two of the Mode-7 racing tracks in the stadium spaces on the board have the exact same layouts as "Mario Circuit 1" and "Donut Plains 1" from Super Mario Kart. SoshiTheYoshi

Marvel Super Hero Squad: The Infinity Gauntlet

In Reptil and Spider-Man's mission, there's a part where you have to climb up bent ramps while Abomination is tossing down barrels just like in 25m and an 8-Bit version of the Super Hero Squad Show theme plays. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 12:34, December 30, 2024 (EST)

Pizza Tycoon

I found a reference in Pizza Tycoon, In the Rome scenario, There are characters called [Mario] and [Luigi].

Where did i found: https://bestdosgames.com/games/pizza-tycoon 103.200.32.8

There needs to be more to it than that to be considered a reference. Mario and Luigi are common Italian names. Mario JC 06:25, January 25, 2025 (EST)

Split references in unused content to a list of references in video game pre-release and unused content

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Split 6-0
Similarly to what I said regarding splitting content from the list of unreleased media to a list of proposed media, I believe that references in both third and first-party video games that are visible commercially should be considered different from references in first and third-party games that were either removed or likely used as placeholders, since the references that were left in were meant to be seen by the public, and references that were removed were either used as placeholders (i.e. T.T.'s appearance in Sea of Thieves) or removed before the public could officially see them.

The resulting list page would look something like this, and would contain both first and third-party games.

Proposer: Nelsonic (talk)
Deadline: March 31, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Split

1. Nelsonic (talk) Per proposal.
2. Rykitu (talk) This time I believe the page is too large. I am for splitting a page that deserves to be split.
3. Camwoodstock (talk) Per proposal, since the comments clarified this wouldn't interfere with potential other splits for the page.
4. Kaptain Skurvy (talk) Per proposal
5. ThePowerPlayer (talk) Per proposal.
6. Power Flotzo (talk) I support this culling.

Comments

We would be remissed not to mention that in the Discord, about a week or so ago, the prospect came up of already splitting this article by another method, either an A-M and N-Z alphabetical split or something more sophisticated. Would this just exist as its own unique thing past how we might split the main article later? ~Camwoodstock ( talk ☯ contribs ) 10:03, March 18, 2025 (EDT)

@Camwoodstock Yeah, I was just thinking due to the difference between a reference such as those in Disney Infinity, which were meant to be seen by the general public, and those that were either removed before the general public could see them or were never meant to be seen by the public (i.e. Luigi's appearance in a pre-release version of Sega GT). So, yes, I think this should be its own thing. Nelsonic (talk) 10:22, March 18, 2025 (EDT)

I feel like the title for this split page should be clearer what it's referring to. Maybe "List of references in video game pre-release and unused content" or "List of references in pre-release and unused video game content" or "List of pre-release and unused references in video games"? Any of those could work. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 14:35, March 18, 2025 (EDT)

@Hewer Sounds good. I'll modify the proposal accordingly. Nelsonic (talk) 15:01, March 18, 2025 (EDT)

Split this page

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split 9-0
Simply put, this page is LONG to an unwieldy degree. The problem isn't even necessarily the byte length--it's currently the 12th longest page, and it's under 300k, the point where, according to our article size policy, it would be recommended to split apart even the resulting split pages--and, as the article size policy notes, there is some use in having long pages.

No, the problem we have is the section count. Among the top 15 pages in terms of byte size, it's literally first place in number of sections when including subsections, with 509 sections in tow. (For reference, List of fonts is in second, which boasts exactly 500 sections, and third place is History of Bowser, at a comparatively "small" 208 sections.) While, of course, one can minimize the Table of Contents if they just need to scroll to a section, the problem is that the Table of Contents is too unwieldy to be useful even for those that want to use it. If you have a game at the lower portion of that list, it may genuinely be more efficient to Ctrl+F the game's title, or even scroll all the way to the bottom of the page and then scroll back up, than try to sift through the absolute sea of game names and series names.

Obviously, we think we should split this page. This has been discussed, at least, since March of this year, and 6 months on, this problem has only exacerbated. As of launching this proposal, we're sticking with a simple alphabetical split from A-M and N-Z; we contemplated possibly even a three-way split, but the subject of how best to split the alphabet in threes is... A bit complicated, so we'll avoid that for now. We also contemplated "by console generation", but in addition to how there is a VERY vocal opinion that the console generation concept itself is fundamentally flawed, even if we were to use that as our basis, it immediately becomes muddy when including PC games that don't rigidly follow console generations, and games that have received new installments between generations (what generation is DROD, an entire series that first released in 1994 and has had new entries as recently as this year?), and rather than try to answer that, we figured simple was best. Still, if there's enough demand, we could add either of those as an option.

Proposer: Camwoodstock (talk)
Deadline: October 12, 2025, 23:59 GMT Closed early on October 5, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Split this page alphabetically (A-M and N-Z)

1. Camwoodstock (talk) Per proposal. Seriously, if we enter full-screen, and zoom out Firefox as far as it'll let us go (30%), and look at the Contents section, we have just enough space... To see the games starting with F. And then we need to hit Page Down two times to even reach the actual body of the page, where the first section just barely peeks out.
2. Scrooge200 (talk) This is the most intuitive way to split, I feel. It's also how we split other long pages like List of Super Paper Mario quotes by character (A–J).
3. Nelsonic (talk) Per proposal.
4. Rykitu (talk) Finally!
5. EvieMaybe (talk) i would prefer a more indepth split criteria, but until we have that, i guess this is a good interim solution.
6. The Dab Master (talk) Per proposal.
7. Maw-Ray Master (talk) Per all.
8. 1468z (talk) Per all.
9. Soshi The Yoshi (talk) Per all.