MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/85

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Automatically handle deletion and link updating when categories are moved

Only update links 1-8-2
When pages in the category namespace are moved, every page in that category is updated and the redirect is deleted to reflect the move. This task is either done manually or by requesting PorpleBot to do it. I propose that MarioWiki Bot automatically updates category links and deletes the leftover redirect anytime a category page is moved. This simplifies the process of moving a category. Moving most pages is a right restricted to established users, so vandalistic moves are unlikely. The (bot) user group must be given the necessary rights to enact this proposal.

Proposer: Illuminoid (talk)
Deadline: November 6, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)

Support

1. P-Tux7 (talk)Per proposal.

#Illuminoid (talk) As proposer.

Partial Support: Only update links

1. Wandering Poplin (talk) Primary vote. Per Arend.
2. Arend (talk) Per what I stated in my oppose vote.
3. Category:The Dab Master (talk) Per Arend.
4. Wilben (talk) Per all.
5. Salmancer (talk) Aside from what Arend said, I'm a little paranoid that an disgruntled established user could commit some not easily undone vandalism by taking advantage of how moving category pages would delete the source category. Best to leave deletion exclusively to the administrators and above. Also consider that MarioWiki:Deletion policy says "Don't delete pages unless you know how to undelete as well," and this change would allow people who can't undelete pages to delete pages.
6. Yoshi18 (talk) Per all.
7. Illuminoid (talk) Per Salmancer.
8. Nelsonic (talk) Per.

Oppose

1. Arend (talk) Auto-update redirect links left over from move? Yes please. Auto-delete said redirects? Eh, I don't think that's a good idea. In a lot of cases, pages get moved to new names because it's the most recent established name, not because the old name shouldn't have been used in the first place. Redirects are still useful for visitors to send them to the cirrect article, after all. Whenever a redirect left from a move DOES need to be deleted, it's usually an old filename, template title or a talk page title; and a redirect's usually left there because the user doesn't have the rights to not leave a redirect when moving (since that requires article deletion, which is something only admins can do, for obvious reasons)
2. Wandering Poplin (talk) Secondary vote. Also per Arend.

Comments

@Arend I added an option to only update links, although many category redirects are deleted. --Illuminoid (talk) 12:58, October 23, 2026 (UTC)

How do I give the bot this ability? Is it a MediaWiki feature? --Steve (talk) 16:15, November 1, 2026 (UTC)

I believe Pywikibot can react to a page move, check if the page is a category, and make the necessary text replacement. --Illuminoid (talk) 16:58, November 1, 2026 (UTC)

Bring back Featured Images

Again and again, various users have made efforts to bring back Featured Images in the form of various proposals and talk page proposals, and all six of them failed. But I think FIs deserve to be revived, just like PipeProjects was five months ago. However, I completely understand how flawed the old way of doing things was. To fix that, I have come up with ways to fix them. First of all, instead of rotating every Thursday, the FIs will rotate every Saturday, similar to Featured Articles. There will also be a new Template:UpcomingFI similar to Template:UpcomingFA to keep track of the rotation. Next, if there are no new Featured images, then the rotation will start from the beginning, similar to FAs. Additionally, the FI archives will include all FI nominations, not just the ones that passed. One of the biggest problems with FI nominations were the questionable votes cast by users, which kept images such as this from passing and got images like this featured. I find it infuriating how someone could oppose an image just because "Who is Wiz Pig^[sic]?" or "But it's not Maaaaario!" and support an image just because of "(no reason given)". Because of that, I think there should also be a "Removal of supports/opposes" option and a rule that somebody has to provide a reason with their vote, such as "I love the attention to detail on this image, like how Mario is standing there with Luigi and how Wario is standing over there with Toadette and Waluigi." or "Per ____", similar to FAs. Also, the rule saying that an image has to be on a mainspace page should be changed to include gallery pages, because a lot of cool images in galleries aren't on any mainspace pages because they don't need to be, but are still deserving of being featured on the Main Page. Speaking of the Main Page, I think the FIs should be placed where they were before: In between Did you know? and Mario & Nintendo news. Because the Latest Proposal and MarioWiki Community sections have been removed some time ago, the Featured Images, Community Poll, and The 'Shroom can safely coexist without the Main Page being too cluttered. I think that if the fixes I came up with are put into effect, there will be no problems with Featured Images going forward. Finally, a link to MarioWiki:Featured images will be added to the sidebar and Template:ToDoList would also keep track of FI nominations.

UPDATE: I forgot to mention it, but I also think there should be an image unfeaturing process as well, similar to Featured Articles.

Proposer: The Real Color Splash Fan (talk)
Deadline: November 14, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)

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1. The Real Color Splash Fan.png (talk) Per proposal.

Unfeature (Oppose)

1. Mr. Sorbetti (talk) My issues with bringing this back are not mentioned here, and I haven't seen them in any previous proposal, so I am opposing again. My problem with bringing this back is that it is not helpful and does not serve a purpose as it stands. As presented, users are not featuring work or contributions made by other users; they are featuring things made 100% by Nintendo with no user effort, and I think that contradicts the principle of pipe projects or even featured pages, as those two things exist to make improvements to the wiki. Nitpicking which image made by Nintendo is better is neither helping nor achieving anything. Also, picking which images are better is most of the time purely subjective, as described by this very proposal. I've thought of ideas to improve this to maybe-MAYBE—bring it back, like featuring images made by users, such as renders or screenshots, instead of work directly done by Nintendo. All of this is as if we chose which article to feature based solely on how cool Nintendo made its appearances or history, instead of the actual effort put into the article by the users.
2. Salmancer (talk) Okay great. We have a structure for Featured Images, and the lack of that was one of the arguments against Featured Images in the last proposal on the matter. But most of the other points of the opposition have gone unaddressed. There's still no sign of a rubric to measure images against, still no way to resolve the fact that the wiki will eventually run out of feature worthy images, and its still not highlighting the work of actual wiki users. Worse, I think the writing in this proposal isn't up to snuff, and my attempt to interpret it makes me think lower of the proposal. The Main Page doesn't have Latest Proposal and MarioWiki Community sections to remove, for one thing. And if it means what I think it means, then there's no way we're removing The 'Shroom from its Main Page section to fit Featured Images. Also, per Mr. Sorbetti.
3. Wandering Poplin (talk) Per all on both this proposal, and the opposition on the last time someone made a proposal about this. Featured articles have a genuine purpose. Featured images... are pure fanon material. Nothing in this proposal has convinced me that this is worth restoring at all.
4. Illuminoid (talk) Per all.
5. Wilben (talk) Per all. This just doesn't seem to be worth the time and effort for the reasons stated above.
6. Camwoodstock (talk) Per ourselves the last time this got proposed. We like the idea, but we need an actually cohesive plan for what images would be featured, or how to format it on the front page, or like, really anything beyond, "it'd be nice." And like. It would be nice! We don't want to give the impression that we think Featured Images are just a doomed concept! But this definitely should be planned out further before being proposed. Next time someone actually thinks to try to propose this, we'd recommend looking at how The Cutting Room Floor handles their Featured File section on their main page; we feel like we could get a lot out of adopting a similar format.
7. Yoshi18 (talk) Per all.
8. The Dab Master.png (talk) Per all.
9. Mari0fan100 (talk) I'll add in my 2 cents. The main difference between featured articles and featured images has to do with the fact that articles are made and edited by a variety of users, while images are mostly Nintendo's work. Also, what causes an image to be featured can be subjective. Even though users will edit images to make them look optimized and have better quality, that doesn't mean that the images will ever look perfect. If fan content was allowed, this would cause me to ask every image of Yoshi to be featured, while asking for every image of Bowser to not be featured (hypothetically, I would never do this because I know better) due to my bias towards certain characters. What makes images featured seems too biased to me.

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I want to spiritually revive this because Featured Images was the reason I'm even here at all but I will forever have a biased towards Featured Images as a concept. Xiahou Ba^{(the Nasty Warrior)} 00:25, November 1, 2026 (UTC)

One of the bigger reasons that reviving Featured Images was voted against was that the content weren't user generated. If there's an effort to focus more on rewarding the efforts of editors rather than spotlight works by Nintendo, it'll be more feasible. So far, I can think of only certain posed and lit 3D renders where some effort is involved into making one, or a photo of a scan of an obscure manga that can flex the wiki's depth of knowledge and can be helpful spotlighting but it's a pretty narrow field and not many people can really participate there. Just letting you know. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 00:44, November 1, 2026 (UTC)

There's probably some room for really pretty screenshots (especially if Snapshot Modes keep appearing in more games), goofy screenshots (think Super Smash Bros. Congratulations and Challenge screenshots, but if users were making them), or demonstrations of glitches. Salmancer (talk) 00:52, November 1, 2026 (UTC)

Sounds like an improvement. I like this idea a lot more than simply just trying to link to key art Nintendo has made. This old screenshot from Frozen Assets, or at least, its older name became a bit of a recurring joke by me in this community. I do hope it doesn't motivate people to try to take more outlandish screenshots at the expense of usefulness to try to get something featured, but if done in moderation, I don't see why people can't have some fun contributing to this wiki; it's good enough that people are motivated already. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 01:00, November 1, 2026 (UTC)

Would images such as these be considered feature-worthy under those standards? The Real Color Splash Fan 03:46, November 1, 2026 (UTC)

Please don't link multiple things across a single word. Its really hard to find all of them. Anyhow, I'd say no to most of these. a Featured Image should have a fully complete aboutfile template that sufficiently explains the context of the image, and none of the glitch images linked do that. Text entry on its own isn't that interesting. Its goofy to make putting "MarioWiki" into text entry fields a running gag, but its not feature worthy on its own. I do think assembling "MarioWiki" out of disparate parts while still making it look appealing is a show of some amount of skill. Screenshots of funny dialogue don't appeal to me since everyone who has played the relevant game can see it. This results in me thinking that the three gifs and the MKWorld sticker file would be in the running for a potential Featured Image, but not any of the others. Salmancer (talk) 19:25, November 1, 2026 (UTC)

This feels like something more for the next spin at Featured Images than this spin, but we do need a convincing argument as to why Featured Images is a better section to add to the Main Page than an "Upcoming Games" section and/or an "Events" section. Again, sections like those are common on wikis but are not present on this wiki, and they represent an opportunity cost that Featured Images should really overcome if it is to return. Salmancer (talk) 02:41, November 1, 2026 (UTC)