Talk:Fly Guy

Species

they are in shy guy species right?

Yes. They are a sub-species of Shy Guys. -- Son of Suns

Just asking... does anyone know if those propellers are really part of their body? I always thought it was part of their suit. Maxlover2

No one knows (I think). They are just attached to them somehow, somewhere. -- Son of Suns

Sorry if that belonged on the forum, but that is somewhat interesting. should we add it? Maxlover2 Confused. again.

No. Not significant enough. -- Son of Suns

OK. sorryfor wasting your time. Maxlover2 yay! I'm not confused!

SSBB

Why does the article not mention anything about brawl?F g

They're not in brawl they're in ssb4 for 3ds and wii u--Redgyarados (talk) 11:00, 28 April 2015 (EDT)

Physics-ish stuff

If the propellor is bolted to their head or something, wouldn't Fly Guy spin around with the propellor? Or is he too fat? Anyway, that would still look hilarious. ("Hei-HWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!") Big-bang 18:46, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

Actually if he keeps his propellor brain stem.. thing, at a angle, he shouldnt spin around. And since the propellor is on a screw, I dont think that the fly guys would spin around unless the force of the propellor is really strong. TrippleAceFlyGuy 9:00, 13 August 2009

On the main picture are those Whirly Fly Guys?

They look like them. SuperPaperFan

No. Wirly Guys are the flashing Fly Guys from Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island. Those are standard Fly Guys. Tails777 Talk to me!

One game is missing!

The Fly Guy Grab minigame in Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move has 4 different types of Fly Guys (which are worth different amounts of points). Shouldn't this be added to this page? Agentdave7 (talk)

Be bold, add it then! :)

Fly Guy (character)

Shouldn't the fly gut in Mario Power Tennis, Mario Hoops on Hoops 3 etc? be Fly Guy (character)? I think that we should move that one to Fly Guy (Mario Party Advance) and have the character moved there. - 09:52, 26 May 2014 (EDT)

But there is no confirmation that it is one singular Fly Guy that reappears in both games. MarioComix (talk) 19:38, 26 May 2014 (EDT)

SMW2

Fly Guys make their first appearance in Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island. In the game, they are used to carry items like Red Coins, 1-Ups, Coins, ? Clouds or even bombs. In some levels, they swoop down carrying a ? Cloud or a Red Coin, and if the item is not obtained in time, the Fly Guy floats back up and laughs mockingly. There are also flashing Fly Guys that fly around flashing like they are invincible, and if the player doesn't pop the balloon they hold, it turns into a Green Fly Guy and flies away while laughing mockingly.

Is this even true? I've never encountered those, and it sounds like a combination of Whirly Fly Guy and Mock Up. Binarystep (talk) 06:11, 10 April 2015 (EDT)

That last bit in bold sounds like a hoax--Redgyarados (talk) 11:01, 28 April 2015 (EDT)

"Laughing"

Ok, so who keeps readding the part where it says it "laughs" in SMW2YI, when referring to the noise that it makes when it flies away? My point is that it is speculative on what that noise could be, could just be a random noise to indicate that. I know the SNES had limited technology, but it also did that noise on the tulip. It, also, is completely discarded in Yoshi's New Island. So, it's subjective on what that noise is supposed to be. -- FanOfYoshi at 15:59, June 5, 2021 (EDT)

It's obviously a "hahaha" sound. It's not speculation if it's painfully blatant. For them it's being used mockingly, for the tulip it's more used as a giggle. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:31, June 5, 2021 (EDT)

Split Fly Guy (Yoshi's Story)

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As you can see here, both enemies have different Japanese names, with the normal design Fly Guy being treated as a gang, and the one with the propeller as the normal one. This shows that both enemies are seen as distinct by Nintendo.

It's also worth noting that their behavior differs greatly from any previously seen Fy Guys, flying in a straight line similar to Beezos. While carrying a fruit, Yoshi must take the fruit from them, which will cause them to flee. In addition, these have a sub-variant consisting of a swarm of smaller Fly Guys.

As you can see, they are very different from a Fly Guy. In fact, the real Fly Guys that appear in a formation of 4 do act as normal Fly Guys actually.

In Smash Bros, these enemies reappear in the Yoshi's Story (stage), keeping the same design, even up to Smash Ultimate. Taking into account Yoshi's other stage where normal fly guys appear, it seems very clear to me that Nintendo sees them as different entities.

Also, the main point is that it looks quite odd to have two Shy Guys with different designs and behaviors appearing in the same game and subsequent games. I think keeping them separate would make the page clearer.

But if you only want to split the variant by 4, I understand that too, so there is another option available.

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  Fly Guy (Yoshi's Story)

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  Normal Fly Guy

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  Fly Guy (Yoshi's Story)

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  Fly Guy

Proposer: Sorbetti (talk)
Deadline: May 27, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Split (Support)

1. Sorbetti (talk) Per proposal.

Split Only the 4 Formation

1. Sorbetti (talk) Per proposal.

Don't Split (Oppose)

1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - As I said in the proposal for merging them, the only reason they look like that is so the ones that carry items aren't doing so with their feet. Generally, in Yoshi's Story, they fly back and forth over a small area - like Fly Guys in SMW2. The "flying straight ahead"-thing is almost entirely unique to Smash. There's occasionally ones with propellers on their backs in later games as well (YWW according to the article, unused in SPM, and even the propeller-topped ones in PiTMedia:MLPiT Fly Guy.gif clearly took after these ones design-wise). The fact that in Smash, they always have the same basic role of flying in items before flying away, including the YIDS-inspired propeller-topped ones in Brawl, indicates they see them as the same thing - a recurring gimmick across Yoshi-based stages, similar to Whispy Woods in Kirby-based ones. If anything is to be split, it should be the group of four one since it's treated as the non-basic one for that game.
2. Hewer (talk) Per the proposal that merged them. I also disagree that Smash featuring both means anything, as they are featured in different stages based on different Yoshi games and don't interact. They only look different to match how they looked in the games that the stages are based on. It's like saying Donkey Kong the fighter should be split from Donkey Kong the stage hazard on 75m. And having played Yoshi's Woolly World, I can confirm that game features Fly Guys with propellers on their backs as well as ones with the standard head propellers, and they're both just considered "Fly Guy" and act identically, no more split-worthy than all the identically-functioning colour variants they also have.
3. Camwoodstock (talk) Per others; splitting on the basis of Smash is a hard sell in a world where we've slowly given Smash coverage the crossover treatment, rather than full treatment, in a world with SmashWiki in it. What's left doesn't really appeal to us, we're sorry.
4. Rykitu (talk) Per all.
5. PrincessPeachFan (talk): Per all.
6. Nightwicked Bowser (talk) This looks like a case of having a different design for one game like several enemies in the first three Paper Mario games.
7. Pizza Master (talk) per all

Comments

@Doc von Schmeltwick So, do you think splitting the 4 formation and the swarm is better? Sorbetti (talk) 17:16, May 13, 2025 (EDT)

Only the 4-formation has any official basis there, and even it's rather tenuous since from what I can tell it's only one guidebook using it as a table item in regards to points. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:28, May 13, 2025 (EDT)

Yes, but it's Shogakukan. Sorbetti (talk) 17:38, May 13, 2025 (EDT)

Like I've said before, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it's a duck. Besides, Smash and MPL also call them Flying Shy Guys. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 20:52, May 13, 2025 (EDT)

Split Shy Guy Swarm from Fly Guy

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Where do we start?

1. Each member of these Fly Guy Swarms is smaller than a normal Fly Guy, so both are different in size.

2. These swarms behave completely differently than normal Fly Guys. Just look at this

3. They have their own names in English and Japanese, which, while they are not very original, they are still proper names.

4. We have similar pages for enemy formations, such as Fuzzy Horde, Wonder Gnawsher, Teresa no Taigun, Wonder Bulrush herd, Boo Crew, Disappearing Boo Buddy, need I say more?

5. Just to clarify, this is a formation of enemies, not a group. This formation appears in two levels and is intended to be treated as an enemy, not as a group.

Proposer: Sorbetti (talk)
Deadline: September 16, 2025, 23:59 GMT

support

#Sorbetti (talk) Per proposal.

oppose

1. Camwoodstock (talk) Having seen the guide excerpt this is referring to, it's reads to us that "Shy Guy Swarm" is just a header. It immediately calls them "squadrons of Shy Guys", and later "groups of Shy Guys" (neither of which are capitalized). When we don't even split the 1337 H4MM3R BR0Z, these guys have absolutely no shot when they can't even settle on a name within their single paragraph in a strategy guide, treating them like some bespoke encounter.
2. DryBonesBandit (talk) Per Camwoodstock.
3. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - These are normal Fly Guys with an engine-shrunk sprite so they can appear in a large number, and the ability to fly in the background. They don't have an actual name in any language. It is not a singular enemy unit.
4. Blinker (talk) Adding to what has already been said, the "Japanese name" mentioned is just "Fly Guy (group)", from a guide that also has such names as "Shy Guy (the ones holding fruit)", "Shy Guy (the ones hiding in trees)" and even "Cheep Cheep (group)". Notably, some color variants, the ones with significant differences in behavior (such as Jellyfish), have the color as part of the actual enemy name, while the less distinct ones (such as Dragon) have the color in parenthesis. This seems to indicate that, in the context of this guide, being distinguished with only an identifier in parenthesis is, if anything, an argument against considering something to be a distinct subject.
5. Sorbetti (talk) I missed adding more things to this proposal, and Blinker made me realize that. I'll cancel it for now, but I won't abandon the idea.

Comments

@Camwoodstock I'm not looking for a group page, this is an enemy that appears on two levels of the game. We have pages for various enemies that appear in groups like the ones above. Even if it's cancelled I'd still oppose because it's just a header. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 08:57, September 3, 2025 (EDT)