Talk:Mario Tennis (series)

Mario's Tennis

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Yes, it is a tennis game starring Mario, and yes, it has a similar name, but Mario's Tennis is not part of the Mario Tennis series - the fact that they were developed by different teams is one reason. But this article treats it as part of the series. If anything, it's a spiritual predecessor.

Proposer: RickTommy (talk)
Deadline: June 19, 2014, 23:59 (UTC)

Mario's Tennis is not part of the Mario Tennis series

1. RickTommy (talk)

Mario's Tennis is part of the Mario Tennis series

1. Koopakoolklub (talk) The main and arcade games of Mario Kart are made by different developers, Namco Bandai Holdings for arcade and Nintendo Entertainment Analysis and Development for main, but they are still considered in the same series. Same with the Mario Party arcade games; they are all in the same series. Therefore, I believe Mario's Tennis is, in fact, part of the Mario Tennis series.
2. Pwwnd123 (talk) I do believe this game did kickstart the Mario Tennis series so that is a definite yes.
3. Randombob-omb4761 (talk) It is Mario Tennis, duh.
4. Stonehill (talk) I see where you're headed, but this is like saying that Golf and NES Open Tournament Golf isn't part of the Mario Golf series. Per Koopakoolklub and Pwwnd123.
5. Ninelevendo (talk) Despite not actually being the "real" start to Mario Tennis games, the 64 was a sequel, as it was even going to be called "Mario's Dream Tennis.
6. Mario (talk) Per Ninelevendo. Koopakoolklub does not bring up the best examples, however. The Mario Kart arcade games, first, aren't a standalone game like this one (Mario Tennis has spiritual successors, not the arcade games). The arcade has spawned its own set of sequels, and since the arcade games are so different from the Nintendo Mario Kart games, I think it would be practical for the arcade to have its own series page (Nintendo doesn't even seem to acknowledge that the arcade ones are part of their Mario Kart series). Anyway, that's another proposal, even if the first one failed. The Mario Party Arcade example is also another poor example since the arcade games are direct ports to the arcade, so they shouldn't get their own series.
7. SuperYoshiBros (talk) It's a tennis game with Mario characters. Mario's Tennis = Mario Tennis.
8. Marshal Dan Troop (talk) Per all.
9. Walkazo (talk) - Per all. Simpler is better: best to not pick at things like this.
10. Yoshi876 (talk) Per all.
11. Misty (talk) – The development team part is like saying Mario Party 9 and later aren't part of the Party series due to not being developed by Hudson Soft. In addition, Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move is still counted as part of the Mario vs. DK series.
12. Green 6017 King Of The Slowpoke (talk) Well the title of the game(Its Mario's tennis for those to lazy to look up at the title of the page)says it All.
13. Sonic98 (talk) What has that has been developed by different teams? Games in the 2D Mario in 3D and those are developed by different teams, but this does not form part of different series.
14. SeanWheeler (talk) Are you disconnecting it from the series just because it's Virtual Boy?
15. Ghost Jam (talk) Per all.

Comments

The thing is, for the Mario Party series, the developers at Hudson were mostly the same team that became Nd Cube. For the Mario Kart series, it's even been debated that the Arcade series should be separated. MarioComix (talk) 20:37, 5 June 2014 (EDT)

Even if the proposal that my sister brought up failed (with very unconvincing opposes, IMO), it's still worth discussing about today. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 14:45, 6 June 2014 (EDT)

To be honest, I actually think I agree with you one that. It should still be on the Mario Kart Series page as a Sub-Series, though. Yay do you think that they have Mario Kart 8 after Mario Kart 7 even though there was an arcade game in the middle? - 17:03, 6 June 2014 (EDT)

Would this be a better example? Golf is made by Nintendo EAD, NES Open Tournament Golf is made by Nintendo R&D 2, and the rest of the games are made by Camelot, and they're considered all in the same series on this wiki. Triple K, Skye 16:48, 7 June 2014 (EDT)

Actually, that isn't a great example because then people could argue that those games aren't Mario Golf Titles. Like me. Technically, I see them as golf games that happen to involve Mario. Which reminds me, Mario appeared in Tennis for the game boy. That should be added as a cameo appearance. - 18:01, 7 June 2014 (EDT)

Ok, I can't think of anything else. Can you? Triple K, Skye 21:00, 7 June 2014 (EDT)

I got another: Yoshi's Island DS is made by Artoon, Yoshi's New Island is made by Arzest, and Yarn Yoshi will be made by Good-Feel, and the rest are mad by Nintendo EAD. This has to be a better example! Triple K, Skye 21:10, 7 June 2014 (EDT)

But they're all in the Yoshi's Island series, so they're together. That's a better example. Good find! - 23:06, 7 June 2014 (EDT)

The Mario Tennis Open Yoshis

Should the individual Yoshis be considered separate characters in the Mario Tennis series? They do have unique abilities in Open and are selected separately from Yoshi. -- memoryman3 (talk) 14:52, July 12, 2022 (EDT)

Character list hyperlinks

The hyperlinks on the character list for Nina, Harry, Brian, Mark, Spike, Sylvia, Gary, Roy, and Mel should all be adjusted to direct you to the respective Mario Tennis character. --JomSpoons (talk) 16:48, May 19, 2023 (EDT)

Done - RHG1951 (talk) 18:47, May 19, 2023 (EDT)

About Mario's Tennis in the series

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Say, didn't Mario's Tennis need a follow-up proposal? Sure, Mario Portal doesn't list it as an installment if you filter it through the Mario Tennis series, but what's equally important is that Virtual Boy is unlisted as a console choice, so I wouldn't take it is as confirmation. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:10, July 4, 2024 (EDT)

I thought it was weird Mario's Tennis was included here. It should be added Starluxe (talk) 11:56, August 21, 2024 (UTC)

I guess it technically should've had another proposal, but I'd definitely support keeping the page as it is now. If Nintendo doesn't count it, nor should we. We don't count Golf as a Mario Golf game for the same reason. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 12:28, June 11, 2025 (EDT)

Should the human characters be on a separate table of the "list of playable characters"

I was thinking it would be best to put the human original characters (like Clay and Ace) at a seperate table as it clutters the table too much and the majority of Mario fans would likely not include the human characters if they were to make a list of every single playable character in the Mario Tennis series 212.129.76.225 19:11, February 1, 2026 (UTC)

They're playable characters in the series; obscurity isn't a good enough reason on its own to split things off like that. ~Camwoodstock ( talk ☯ contribs ) 19:15, February 1, 2026 (UTC)

Regarding Variants

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As I mentioned in my previous edit, I am wondering how we should determine "variants" in the playable character table. There are many things that can be argued as "variants", but only two are listed on the table:

• The Nintendo 64 version of Mario Tennis has one alternate color for every character. I do not think this counts as a variant, much like alternate colors in Super Smash Bros. do not count as variants.
• In Mario Power Tennis, Yoshi is capable of transforming into one of many colors upon using Rolling Egg Return. I think it is reasonable to exclude these as well, since only the green Yoshi is selectable at all times.
• In Mario Tennis Open, several colors for Yoshi can be downloaded via QR codes. I'd arguably count these as variants since they're individualized, but they currently are not counted as such on the table.
• In Mario Tennis Aces, a whole bevy of alternate colors and costumes are available by completing specific challenges or online games. These are already included in the table.
• And that brings us to Mario Tennis Fever, where we have the variants that are labeled as such in the Achievements section. Up until my last edit, these were all considered "unique", but I removed this because all of them had debuted in Aces or other games except for Lumalee, Yellow Koopa Troopa, and Yellow Koopa Paratroopa.

Whew. That was a lot of writing. Anyway, what do you think should count as a "unique" appearance of a variant? BMfan08 (talk) 01:34, February 20, 2026 (UTC)

The Yoshi colours from Open should definitely be on the list as they are considered as individual characters in the game (not like Fever where you select the character and then the colour variant), not to mention they have different play types. In terms of the others...technically speaking, I would just stick to these Yoshi colours and mention which one appeared in N64 as a colour variant, and then putting them as "colour variants" for Aces and Fever. And should the Shy Guy/Koopa/Paratroopa/Luma colours get special treatment? Technically not, because they're not treated as separate, individual characters in a game. Not sure how it was handled in other similar cases like Mario Kart series though. MarioComix (talk) 05:05, February 21, 2026 (UTC)