Talk:Magikoopa

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Shells[edit]

  • Magikoopas do have shells! In Mario & Luigi Partners in Time, Kamek says "You guys really chap my shell"... If he had no shell, why would he say that?
    The preceding unsigned comment was added by Darth waluigi (talk).
I think it's merely a way of saying he's angry. Kinda like "You are getting on my nerves". There's no real proof Magikoopa's have shells. --Blitzwing 18:23, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

Well if they don't there hunchbcks. Random Chaos 22:33, 30 September 2009 (EDT)

Alternative names in foreign languages[edit]

I wasn't sure where else to put this, so I used the talk page of an article where it applies. How exactly should alternative names in a language different from English be listed? The German Super Mario World strategy guide includes some names that are different from those that appear in other sources; Magikoopa is referred to as Koopalini (instead of Kamek), Urchin as Aqua-Wummp (instead of Igluk), etc. so I was wondering if there is already a guideline on how to list those.--Vellidragon 12:46, 1 December 2009 (EST)

I don't know a guideline, but there are already lists with more than one name for one language, e.g. Fawful in European Spanish. It should be clear what name is the current one. --Grandy02 12:45, 9 January 2010 (EST)

Jerry[edit]

There is a magikoopa in mario and luigi:Bowser's inside story named Jerry.User:Mr bones

Magikoopa or Kamek?[edit]

I say we remove the Yoshi's Island artwork and the NSMB Wii info. This article is about Magikoopas, not Kamek. Regular Magikoopas aren't found in those games, Kamek is all you see. Reshiram.pngSupermariofan14Zekrom.png

However, Kamek is a magikoopa, and if she is a magikoopa, then we should add the [general] info about them here as well.

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Tattle![edit]

There is no tattle information for Magikoopa in Super Paper Mario. Could somebody add that?
The preceding unsigned comment was added by BabyLuigiOnFire (talk).

I added it in. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Tutankoopa?[edit]

I'm pretty sure [[Tutankoopa is not a Magikoopa. He's a koopa spirit
The preceding unsigned comment was added by ChillGuy (talk).

Mario Party 9[edit]

In Mario Party 9, is the playable Magikoopa a Magikoopa or Kamek? Due to translations, the English version labels the Magikoopa as "Magikoopa" and the European version labels this as "Kamek". Now, what should we do? My suggestion is to say that the Magikoopa "is playable in Mario Party 9... However, in the European translations, this Magikoopa is called "Kamek" and we include this information in the Kamek article as well.

I think it's just to avoid confusion, although we base our information on what region the game is first released. Mario Green.pngKaBoom! 00:07, 8 March 2012 (EST)

I think it should say that in the American version Kamek is mistakenly called Magikoopa or something like that as to reference the fact that the playable character is really Kamek but he's called Magikoopa in America. Also policy states that we use the European information since it came out in Europe first. Raven Effect (talk)
If something says it's Kamek, it's Kamek, end of story. It doesn't matter what region it is or which came first. Generic "Magikoopa" is a lack of information, and if one region's lacking but another one has more complete info, go with the more complete set (it's like how we use the region that makes the most sense when it comes to splitting and merging species, or in situations like King Boo (Super Mario Sunshine)). All this page should say is that Kamek appears in MP9, but that he was only identified as "Magikoopa" in the American version, with {{main}} linking directly to the appropriate section on Kamek's page. - Walkazo 01:02, 8 March 2012 (EST)
Okay, thanks for clarifying things. Mario Green.pngKaBoom! 19:15, 8 March 2012 (EST)

Super Mario RPG[edit]

It was said that the American localizers made an error and accidentally named Kamek "Magikoopa". Yet, wouldn't the quote given (That's... my child?) on the Magikoopa article be from Kamek, not a Magikoopa? -NessPeppyTails

His name in Japan isn't "Kamek", it's "Kamezādo". Vent (talk) 15:09, 25 March 2013 (EDT)

Note on Kamek[edit]

I think that at the top of the article it should say, for the character sometimes known as magikoopa see Kamek.RPG Gamer. I HAVE RPG!! (talk) 13:13, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

I added the {{Articleabout}} template if that was what you were talking about. Mario Green.pngKaBoom! 18:49, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

Section Inconsistency[edit]

Why is there a sub section "Paper Mario Information" under Official Profiles and Statistics with the Info Boxes for Paper Mario and TTYD? Shouldn't it be there in their respective game section, like the others articles? In fact, the Super Paper Mario info is in the game's section too. Hellmasterbg (talk) 01:16, 12 June 2014 (EDT)

Magikoopa Transforms in Mario Maker[edit]

Should we have a proper list of what Magikoopas can transform blocks into in Mario Maker when normal/winged/big/big winged? That seems like something that would be added, but I wouldn't want to just go in without asking first. The Blue Boo (talk) 23:01, 17 September 2017 (EDT)

Mario Party 8?[edit]

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This article says 2 of the voices in the fun bazzar of mario party 8 are named after kamek. For some reason, in the copy of the game that i own, they are named magikoopa voices. maybe it's like mario party 9, where the name depends on the region? i have the NTSC version if i'm not mistaken. YoshiEgg1990

Where in Super Mario Party?[edit]

Where in the game is the generic Magikoopa present?--Hamshamcart (talk) 21:23, 26 October 2018 (EDT)

Alternate colors[edit]

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This is an inconsistency that bothers me a bit. While admittedly other enemies in PM and TTYD don't have color variants that aren't a wholly different enemy (barring Red Spike Top in the latter), the other appearances of them do have color variants, and the abilities aren't that consistent anyways. So, I ask: why are the color variants split? Should they not be merged? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:20, September 2, 2020 (EDT)

I feel like the blue-shelled Spike Tops from two of the Paper Mario games could possibly be split into "Spike Top (blue shell)" with Red Spike Top merged into the main article, but that's neither here nor there. My question is, what about Kamek's color clones from Dream Team? LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:33, September 2, 2020 (EDT)
Could probably merge them with Kamek, though given the clone aspect a case could be made for keeping them...for now. (Also Spike Top in the first one did have a red shell, it had a blue one in TTYD and Super...and also there's the blue ones from the Maker games). Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:41, September 2, 2020 (EDT)
Honestly, I think it's OK to keep them split, since besides the color they still have unique traits to further distinguish them from the regular Magikoopas, such as their individual skills in the first two Paper Mario games. Other types of species such as Yoshis and Shy Guys probably don't have different colors split because there aren't enough differences. Master of Masters KHXBC.png Keyblade Master
Problem is said "individual skills" don't carry. In TTYD, Green Magikoopas got the abilities of yellow and gray ones while losing their original ones to Red Magikoopas. This is therefore very much like Shy Guys since the lack of consistency of abilities is what keeps them merged. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:56, September 3, 2020 (EDT)
OK, I have assembled a helpful table to show how the variance has been, and it's really not been consistent. Red's been closest, but...
Normal/Blue Red Yellow Green Purple Gray White
Paper Mario PMMagikoopaGround.png
Magikoopa
Just magic blasts (Shooting Star Summit)
All Magikoopa abilities, along with cloning (Bowser's Castle)
PMRMagikoopaGround.png
R Magikoopa
Magic blasts and POW boosts
PMYMagikoopaGround.png
Y Magikoopa
Magic blasts and electrification
PM Grounded Green Magikoopa Sprite.png
GRN Magikoopa
Magic blasts and DEF boosts
Nonexistent PMGMagikoopaGround.png
GRY Magikoopa
Magic blasts and invisibility boosts
PMWMagikoopaGround.png
W Magikoopa
Magic blasts and healing
Paper Mario: TTYD PMTTYD Blue Magikoopa Sprite.png
Magikoopa
All Magikoopa abilities
Red Magi Koopa.png
R. Magikoopa
Magic blasts, POW and DEF boosts, and cloning
Nonexistent PMTTYD Green Magikoopa Sprite.png
G. Magikoopa
Magic blasts, elec. and inv. boosts, and cloning
Nonexistent Nonexistent White Magi Koopa.png
W. Magikoopa
Magic blasts, healing, and cloning
Mario Superstar Baseball MagikoopaSelectMSB.png
Magikoopa
Great fielder, below-average batter, bad pitcher and runner
RedMagiSelectMSB.png
Red Magikoopa
Slightly better batter, even worse runner
YellowMagiSelectMSB.png
Yellow Magikoopa
Better pitcher, worse batter and runner
GreenMagiSelectMSB.png
Green Magikoopa
Slightly better pitcher, even worse runner
Nonexistent Nonexistent Nonexistent
Mario Super Sluggers Magikoopa Artwork - Super Mario Galaxy.png
Magikoopa
Great fielder and pitcher, bad batter and runner
MagikoopaRed MSS.png
Red Magikoopa
Slightly better batter, even worse runner
MagikoopaYellow MSS.png
Yellow Magikoopa
Slightly worse pitcher
MagikoopaGreen MSS.png
Green Magikoopa
Slightly better batter, worse pitcher
Nonexistent Nonexistent Nonexistent
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
(Kamek battle 3)
KamekDT.png
Kamek
Magic blasts, magic rings (last), Thwomp summons while chasing
MLDT-KamekRedFlying.png
Kamek (Red)
Adds to magic rings (first), summons giant broom to attack
High HP, low HP and SPD
Nonexistent MLDT-KamekGreenFlying.png
Kamek (Green)
Adds to magic rings (second), DEF, SPD, and POW boosts
High POW
Nonexistent Nonexistent MLDT-KamekWhiteFlying.png
Kamek (White)
Adds to magic rings (third), healing
Low POW
Puzzle & Dragons SMB PDSMBE-BlueMagikoopa-TeamImage.png
Blue Magikoopa/Blue Kamek
Water attribute
PDSMBE-RedMagikoopa-TeamImage.png
Red Magikoopa/Red Kamek
Fire attribute
PDSMBE-YellowMagikoopa-TeamImage.png
Yellow Magikoopa/Yellow Kamek
Light attribute
PDSMBE-GreenMagikoopa-TeamImage.png
Green Magikoopa/Green Kamek
Wood attribute
PDSMBE-PurpleMagikoopa.png
Purple Magikoopa/Purple Kamek
Dark attribute
Nonexistent Nonexistent
Mario Sports Superstars Magikoopa-Stats-Baseball MSS.png
Magikoopa
Good hitting and speed, average fielding and stamina
MagikoopaRed-Stats-Baseball MSS.png
Red Magikoopa
Good hitting and stamina, average fielding, poor speed
MagikoopaYellow-Stats-Baseball MSS.png
Yellow Magikoopa
Similar to normal Magikoopa
MagikoopaGreen-Stats-Baseball MSS.png
Green Magikoopa
Similar to normal Magikoopa
Nonexistent Nonexistent Nonexistent
M&LSS+BM
(Minion Quest)
MLSSBMMagikoopaBroom.png
Magikoopa (Blue)
Magic blasts, fly
MLSSBMMagikoopaRed.png
Magikoopa (Red)
Magic blasts, POW boosts
Nonexistent MLSSBMMagikoopaGreen.png
Magikoopa (Green)
Magic blasts, ACCUR boosts
Nonexistent Nonexistent MLSSBMMagikoopaWhite.png
Magikoopa (White)
Magic blasts, SPD boosts
M&LBIS+BJJ
(Bowser Jr's Journey)
MLBISBJJKamek.png
Kamek
Magic blasts, flies, is a captain
MLBISBJJMagikoopaRed.png
Magikoopa (Red)
Magic blasts, POW boosts
Nonexistent MLBISBJJMagikoopaGreen.png
Magikoopa (Green)
Magic blasts, SPD boosts
Nonexistent Nonexistent MLBISBJJMagikoopaWhite.png
Magikoopa (White)
Magic blasts, DEF boosts
...there's still no tried-and-true consistency. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:17, September 3, 2020 (EDT)