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I'm really unsure if merging the racing Buzzard with the enemy Buzzard is a good idea. The racing Buzzard looks quite different from the enemy Buzzard, with the racing Buzzard having brown feathers instead of black ones (with gray tips on its wings and tailfeathers), a purple-tipped beak instead of a red-tipped one, a slightly more vibrant pink skin complexion, friendly eyes with white sclera and yellow irises instead of menacing yellow eyeballs with tiny pupils, and most notably, an aviator helmet and goggles, with the enemy Buzzard doesn't have. Its appearance may be derived from an enemy Buzzard, but it's made distinct enough to be its own character. And if we have a separate article for [[Koopa the Quick]], which is essentially just a bigger [[Koopa Troopa]] that doesn't even have a unique name in Japanese, then I don't see why we should merge this Buzzard character which appearance clearly differs from the enemy Buzzard. {{User:Arend/sig}} 19:00, February 4, 2024 (EST)
I'm really unsure if merging the racing Buzzard with the enemy Buzzard is a good idea. The racing Buzzard looks quite different from the enemy Buzzard, with the racing Buzzard having brown feathers instead of black ones (with gray tips on its wings and tailfeathers), a purple-tipped beak instead of a red-tipped one, a slightly more vibrant pink skin complexion, friendly eyes with white sclera and yellow irises instead of menacing yellow eyeballs with tiny pupils, and most notably, an aviator helmet and goggles, with the enemy Buzzard doesn't have. Its appearance may be derived from an enemy Buzzard, but it's made distinct enough to be its own character. And if we have a separate article for [[Koopa the Quick]], which is essentially just a bigger [[Koopa Troopa]] that doesn't even have a unique name in Japanese, then I don't see why we should merge this Buzzard character which appearance clearly differs from the enemy Buzzard. {{User:Arend/sig}} 19:00, February 4, 2024 (EST)
:At least Koopa the Quick has a unique name, though; if it weren't for that, it probably would be merged with Koopa Troopa. There's also many, many more Koopa Troopas other than Koopa the Quick, but only two Buzzards, both of which are involved in special events that give the player a [[Golden Banana]], regardless of their differing roles and appearances. It just seems like a hassle to have one article for a one-time enemy, and then have another article for the "notable member" of this one-time enemy's species, especially when they both have the same name. [[User:DrippingYellow|DrippingYellow]] ([[User talk:DrippingYellow|talk]]) 20:31, February 4, 2024 (EST)

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Shouldn't their plural form be Neckies instead of Neckys? - Cobold (talk · contribs) 15:41, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

I Google-searched it, and there were twice as many hits for "Neckys" than "Neckies"; but there was nothing official going either way, just FAQs and things. Since "ies" is the grammatically correct pluralization of "y", I think we should go with that until further notice. - Walkazo 15:10, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Confusion

Okay, only Mini-Neckies appear in the DK swinging part of the series, however this article has the exact same info, also the Neckys in DK King of Swing and Jungle Climber look alot like minineckies and even have the same attack patterns in their first appearence Mr. Guy the GuyPickle.png Talk!E

Doesn't Necky sound like the name "Becky"? - Chris Helper

Buzzards page

Now that they have a species name, shouldn't the Buzzards from DK64 (the birds that looked like Neckies) have their own page (or just a species page)? It would be nice for them to get a page dedicated to them, instead of having to share the Neckies's page... --Metalex123 (talk) 20:33, 1 September 2017 (EDT)

They're Neckies. The Kritters were called Kremlings according to the same source. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:36, 1 September 2017 (CT)
But they should still have a page, since every other DK64 enemies have a page for themselves. --Metalex123 (talk) 21:31, 1 September 2017 (EDT)
Kritter, Klump, Gnawty, Zinger, Puftup, Shuri, Kroc, Klaptrap, Klobber, Krash, Kaboom.....yeah what you just said isn't true. And the Neckies in this game are hardly even enemies, one's a racer and the other's a glorified moving target that only appears once. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:41, 1 September 2017 (CT)
Um... Yes, every enemies & characters from DK64 do have a page for themselves (except recolors): Book, Oyster, Ruler, Beanstalk, Beetle, Owl, etc. And what's wrong with having a page for characters you race in DK64? The Seal, Owl, Rabbit, Beetle & Mini Car all have pages, so why not the Necky/Buzzard? --Metalex123 (talk) 16:31, 2 September 2017 (EDT)
I understand why the racer should have its own page, but what you said initially sounded like you wanted both to be split off into the same "Buzzard" page. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:49, 2 September 2017 (CT)
Oh, sorry for the confusion then... Well, why not have a page for the racer Necky/Buzzard, while the enemy one stays on this page? What do you think of this idea? (Oh and I guess we should add the Buzzard name somewhere on the Necky page, since it's an official name...) --Metalex123 (talk) 17:18, 2 September 2017 (EDT)
That makes sense, but the Buzzard name is on the Necky page, under the DK64 section :\ Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:46, 2 September 2017 (CT)
Whoops, I hadn't noticed that... Welp, I'll try making a page for the racer... Should I call it "Necky (character)" or "Buzzard (character)"? --Metalex123 (talk) 17:56, 2 September 2017 (EDT)

Are the Buzzards really Neckys?

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Here's something that has been bugging me: the Buzzards from Donkey Kong 64 are listed as Neckys, but have they ever been confirmed to be Neckys? The Buzzards look a little more like standard cartoon vultures than Neckys specifically to me. I understand some enemies underwent redesigns, such as Puftup, but it's a bit weird that this is supposedly the only case where a pre-existing enemy was renamed for DK64 (unless you count Kabooms being called "TNT Bombers" in the Prima guide). DrippingYellow (talk) 00:09, February 1, 2024 (EST)

Yeah, I don't think so, either. They look so different from regular Neckies and there's also the fact that we refer to the "Buzzards" in Donkey Kong Barrel Maze as Neckies as well despite the fact that they look like regular vultures in that game. Plus, as for pre-existing enemies being renamed, only the manual calls Gnawties by that name as everything else (including the game) refers to them as Beavers. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 08:58, February 2, 2024 (EST)

Split Donkey Kong 64's Buzzard from Necky

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This is an equivalence that I don't really understand. It's never been confirmed to be a Necky to my knowledge; really, the assumed connection seems to be based solely on the fact that it resembles a Necky, as though Neckys are the only cartoon vultures to have a white tuft around their neck and a bald-looking head. Also keep in mind that the two Buzzards only appear in Angry Aztec, a desert, not unlike how it is a common trope for buzzards to be found in desolate wastelands.

If the enemy Buzzard gets split, then I propose to also have it merged with the racing Buzzard, seeing as it's the only other representative of this species in the entire game.

I'm also a little iffy on the Buzzard in Donkey Kong Country Barrel Maze, seeing as it even moreso resembles a generic vulture, and every single other enemy in the game is also generic, but I'll keep the focus of this proposal on Donkey Kong 64.

Proposer: DrippingYellow (talk)
Deadline: February 18, 2024, 23:59 GMT

Merge Buzzard into Buzzard (character), rename to Buzzard (Donkey Kong 64)

  1. DrippingYellow (talk) Per proposal.

Split enemy Buzzard into its own article

Do nothing

Comments

Just wanted to say that the buzzards in Barrel Maze attack you with coconuts, like Neckies do in DKC. I think this association alone merits a mention in some way on this article. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 16:38, February 4, 2024 (EST)

Dang, I forgot that the Neckies threw nuts in DKC... Maybe the developers of the flash game were more in tune with the Donkey Kong lore than I initially suspected. DrippingYellow (talk) 16:43, February 4, 2024 (EST)

I'm really unsure if merging the racing Buzzard with the enemy Buzzard is a good idea. The racing Buzzard looks quite different from the enemy Buzzard, with the racing Buzzard having brown feathers instead of black ones (with gray tips on its wings and tailfeathers), a purple-tipped beak instead of a red-tipped one, a slightly more vibrant pink skin complexion, friendly eyes with white sclera and yellow irises instead of menacing yellow eyeballs with tiny pupils, and most notably, an aviator helmet and goggles, with the enemy Buzzard doesn't have. Its appearance may be derived from an enemy Buzzard, but it's made distinct enough to be its own character. And if we have a separate article for Koopa the Quick, which is essentially just a bigger Koopa Troopa that doesn't even have a unique name in Japanese, then I don't see why we should merge this Buzzard character which appearance clearly differs from the enemy Buzzard. ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits) 19:00, February 4, 2024 (EST)

At least Koopa the Quick has a unique name, though; if it weren't for that, it probably would be merged with Koopa Troopa. There's also many, many more Koopa Troopas other than Koopa the Quick, but only two Buzzards, both of which are involved in special events that give the player a Golden Banana, regardless of their differing roles and appearances. It just seems like a hassle to have one article for a one-time enemy, and then have another article for the "notable member" of this one-time enemy's species, especially when they both have the same name. DrippingYellow (talk) 20:31, February 4, 2024 (EST)