Talk:Mario and Luigi's family

Cousins

Isn't Wario Luigi's cousin?Stanly the bugman should be mentioned too.User:mr bones

If Wario was Luigi's cousin, then, by extension, he'd also be Mario's cousin. However, this fact has not been confirmed in a main-series game. As far as I'm aware, it's never even been stated in a spin off. As for Stanley: what makes you think he's related to the Marios? Redstar 08:57, 2 January 2010 (EST)

I thought that he's his cousin.Here's what I saw in ign.com: Mario's frequently forgotten cousin Stanley was the bugspray-wielding exterminator in Donkey Kong 3. The story of that sequel was that DK had broken into Stanley's greenhouse and started causing trouble, and it was up to Stan the man to send the big ape packing with the power of potent pesticide.User:mr bones

They were being sarcastic. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Name

Shouldn't this article be "Mario and Luigi's Family", with a capital F? Fawfulfury65

Only in case it's a proper name, which I don't think it is. Time Questions 19:04, 16 May 2010 (EDT)

Grandmothers

Shouldn't there be sections about Grandma and the unnamed grandmother? Weegie baby (talk) hour, day month, year

Mario and Luigi

Mario and Luigi should have their own sections. Weegie baby (talk) 09:55, November 13, 2024 (EST)

Possible relative of the Mario Bros.

The man in question

In The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! episode "Plummers Academy", a man similar in appearance to Mario and Luigi appears with them, wearing a white shirt with a purple tie, black pants, and brown shoes, who cheers with them as the President of the United States's motorcade drives by. Should this be mentioned in the article? Apikachu68 (talk) 14:23, December 12, 2024 (EST)

Interesting, but without proofs or confirmation, it's a mere coincidence, like the proto-Wario at the beginning of said episode. Mariuigi Khed 15:52, December 12, 2024 (EST)

FINALLY! YES!!!

I’ve found proof that Stanley’s Mario’s cousin. It’s in IGN. Here: https://www.ign.com/articles/2007/09/28/smash-it-up-from-the-trophy-case. See Stanley’s section. Weegie baby (talk) 18:20, January 1, 2025 (EST)

It's not really officially vetted, so I wouldn't consider this solid evidence, but I guess you can add an asterisk at the end of the article that IGN claims Stanley to be the Mario Bros.'s cousin, in a similar vein to how Prima Guide claims Toadette to be Toad's sister. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 18:13, January 1, 2025 (EST)

What do you mean “asterisk”? You do that… Weegie baby (talk) 18:20, January 1, 2025 (EST)

Unlike Prima, IGN isn’t an official source from Nintendo though, is it? I don’t think this is worth any mention on the wiki as it’s just a gaming journalist projecting their own view online. — Lady Sophie_17 ^(T|C) 21:04, January 1, 2025 (EST)

Probably just say they claimed this but there's no evidence outside of it. We should probably set the record for that in case this crops up again in the future. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 01:12, January 2, 2025 (EST)

Honestly, it sounds more like not much as "cousin" like "family member", but more like "a member of the same franchise" (kinda like saying "Mario and Link are Shigeru's "children"." as in "creations" not actual biological kids), but I don't wanna open another parenthesis like we did with Talk:Mama Mario. BUT... thinking about it, wasn't there a Nintendo magazine that once claimed that Wario was considered Mario's cousin? I'm pretty sure it was also written on his page at one point (I also looked online for this, but outside from unsourced Reddit posts, I didn't find anything, so I can see why it was potentially removed). -- Mariuigi Khed 05:44, January 2, 2025 (EST)

Stanley

So, I found another website that said Stanley is Mario's cousin, though I don't know if it's official. You tell me: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1690724557/stanley-the-bugman-rare-mario-character. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Weegie baby (talk).

That's an Etsy listing of a fanmade piece of merchandise. That is very much not official. ;P ~Camwoodstock ( talk ☯ contribs ) 14:21, January 22, 2025 (EST)

Baby Luigi

LinkTheLefty pointed out that in a manga Baby Luigi was Mario and Peach’s son. Can we add him? Here is the link they used: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g0uXcTF3mA&t=281s. Weegie baby (talk) 13:17, January 24, 2025 (EST)

It's worth a mention, but it was its own story (sort of like a parody in which cartoon characters play the roles of a fairy tale). Mariuigi Khed 14:04, January 24, 2025 (EST)

But can we add it to the article or not? Weegie baby (talk) 14:26, January 24, 2025 (EST)

OH, right: Mario and Luigi aren't in the page. Maybe in a trivia section, so we can also include the Peach of this continuity? Mariuigi Khed 14:29, January 24, 2025 (EST)

I actually wanted to add a trivia section since when I found that IGN article stating Stanley is Mario’s cousin, but I didn’t think that was enough for a trivia section. But now, I think we could add one. Weegie baby (talk) 14:39, January 24, 2025 (EST)

I've said this before in your family proposal, but I think it's not a good idea to blindly trust that IGN article you found. It's not an article that reports on official information, but rather an opinion piece speculating which Trophies in Melee could be seeing an upgrade in Brawl (and is thus not very verifiable as a source); even then, the "cousin" may be meant in a more metaphorical sense anyway (both Mario and Stanley have been protagonists in arcade Donkey Kong games where they had to duke against the titular ape, so they're kinda analogous to each other regardless of family relations). Actually, I'm not the only one who refuted the article you blindly believed, am I? rend (talk) (edits) 14:12, January 25, 2025 (EST)

Wario

I’ve found this link. Is it reliable? Here it is: https://www.facebook.com/yagodesignwrap/posts/bad-cousin-of-mad-mario-wario-wrapper-vollverklebtde-ihr-team-f%C3%BCr-folierung-und-/4829131913768347/ Weegie baby (talk) 13:29, January 25, 2025 (EST)

No. It's just some guy's custom design I think. Technetium (talk) 13:32, January 25, 2025 (EST)

I think they were referring to the wording of the Facebook post ("Bad Cousin of Mad Mario. Wario!") rather than the design of the car. However, I'd also say no to this, since the Facebook user Yagodesign is not officially associated with Nintendo in any way we know of. This means that the custom design for the car in said post is unofficial, as are the words in the very same post. And who the heck is Mad Mario, anyway? I don't remember Mario ever being called that.
@Weegie baby, may I advise you to stop looking for evidence at random Etsy products, random Facebook posts, or random articles; and instead look for evidence at official Nintendo websites, official Nintendo social media, official Nintendo manuals, and officially licensed guide books and magazines (see this for more info). rend (talk) (edits) 14:01, January 25, 2025 (EST)

Mario’s frequently forgotten cousin

I know you won’t care for this, but here: [1]. Weegie baby (talk) 16:44, February 20, 2025 (EST)

A random bio on IGN is not a reliable source. Technetium (talk) 16:46, February 20, 2025 (EST)

We've debunked the whole "Stanley is Mario's cousin because IGN said so" thing like five times already. We're not going to cave in at the sixth time just because it's on a random IGN biography instead of a random IGN article: it's still an unofficial claim from a non-Nintendo source. Please recall the advice I gave you in the section above. rend (talk) (edits) 16:50, February 20, 2025 (EST)

I just wanted to point it out, I wasn’t trying to make you change your mind. I just wanted to let you know (in these 2 sentences, “you” is in the plural form.) Weegie baby (talk) 17:02, February 20, 2025 (EST)

Princess Peach

Hello. I'd like to say I think Peach deserves a section in this article. She was Mario's wife in that manga adaptation and in Shitamachi Ninjō Gekijō, after all. I know you'll say this isn't canon or something, but hear me out. There are some members in this article that likely aren't canon, such as all the "The Super Mario Brothers Super Show," Mario's mother-in-law or the other manga relatives, but all those have a section. Couldn't the Princess Peach section (and since Peach would have a section, her son with Mario – Luigi — should too) say "non-canon" or something? Think about it. Weegie baby (talk) 09:18, May 13, 2025 (EDT)

We have her being part of the family in the notes, where she was married to Mario and they had Luigi as their son in Super Mario: Wario no Mori. Add the Shitamachi Ninjō Gekijō point. Mariuigi Khed 09:23, May 13, 2025 (EDT)

Ok. Weegie baby (talk) 09:48, May 13, 2025 (EDT)

Wario (again)

There’s this German comic named “Super Mario: Die Verwandlung” where Doctor Thomas Light tries to clone Mario, but the cloning process fails and Wario is created, instead of a normal, simple, Mario clone. Well, doesn’t that mean that, in that comic, Wario is Mario’s brother, or something? Weegie baby (talk) 16:16, June 13, 2025 (EDT)

No, this Wario is simply Mario's "Mr. Hyde" (not in the simple sense that he's his dark side, specifically, he's the representation of the illness that is making Mario's pixellated). Nothing more nor really worth an addition in this page. Mariuigi Khed 16:25, June 13, 2025 (EDT)

Ok. Weegie baby (talk) 16:32, June 13, 2025 (EDT)

Yoshi

Could we add a section for Yoshi? He is Luigi's adopted son in the Super Mario World television series. Weegie baby (talk) 11:02, June 22, 2025 (EDT)

Eh... pretty iffy territory, there. I see your reasoning... but is it real adoption? After all, only Baby Yoshi calls him "mama" and once because of the final punchline as an adult. This "relationship" is never brought up (except in one line in the live action movie sequel comic). For now, we can have it in the trivia section. -- Mariuigi Khed 11:49, June 22, 2025 (EDT)

Works for me. Weegie baby (talk) 13:58, June 22, 2025 (EDT)

Dr. Mario Nakamatsu

The article says Dr. Mario Nakamatsu’s relation to Mario if any is unknown, but from what I know, Dr. Mario Nakamatsu is Dr. Mario and in the Kodansha manga Dr. Mario is Mario. See what I mean? Kinoppe would be Mario’ granddaughter. Right? Correct me respectfully if I’m wrong. Balugio (talk) 13:57, September 20, 2025 (EDT)

No, the first Dr. Mario, from the Dr. Mario manga IS Mario. But in Super Mario World 9 (that was never made into a volume), this new guy appears Dr. Mario Nakamatsu. While identical, he has some differences (like the hair sometimes), he even has a Nurse Peach that has a design more faithful with the games, compared to manga Peach that doesn't have the heart-shaped bangs. This guy comes from the future, has Kinoppe as a grandaughter, but (at least, from what I can gather from the volumes) he has no confirmed relations to Mario. Maybe they explain it in his debut, but I cannot put my hands on it, I can only entrust some wikipedia pages and Japanese Mario wikis/wikias (which still don't say anything about it). Mariuigi Khed 15:08, September 20, 2025 (EDT)

No way, I also use the Japanese Wikipedia and wikis. Anyway, guess we’ll have to wait and see if we find something. Balugio (talk) 15:33, September 20, 2025 (EDT)

FOUND IT! "Super Mario World 9?" I wish, found just a sketch, Kinoppe's first page and a chapter page of SMW8 so far... According to aniwotawiki, he is not related to Mario. "He is a descendant of the Edo period inventor "Mariottogennai" (毬夫源内). [...] His name is inspired by the inventor Dr. Nakamatsu." Mariuigi Khed 17:02, November 12, 2025 (EST)

Name (2)

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Is this name official? Balugio (talk) 16:45, November 10, 2025 (EST)

What name? Mariuigi Khed 19:09, November 10, 2025 (EST)

The name of the article. Has any source ever said “Mario and Luigi’s family?” Balugio (talk) 12:11, November 12, 2025 (EST)

I don't think so. I haven't come across any sources that refer to the Mario Bros.' family as "Mario and Luigi's family." I'd say we put the Conjecture template on the article until evidence of the name being used in official sources is found. Maw-Ray Master (talk) 09:36, November 13, 2025 (EST)

Ok. Balugio (talk) 12:14, November 15, 2025 (EST)

Why do we need to determine an "official name" for something basic and straightforward as "Mario and Luigi's family"? It's like how this wiki slapped a "citation needed" for pickup trucks that are blatantly obviously pickup trucks. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 12:29, November 15, 2025 (EST)

The only exception I can think of off the top of my head are specialized/sub articles like lists, though this is pretty much a list article. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:38, November 15, 2025 (EST)

Closest thing I found is in the interviews about their Movie role and designs: "Mario family" in the Polygon interview. Mariuigi Khed 13:04, November 15, 2025 (EST)

Then let’s move it to “Mario family?” I mean, only the article said Mario family and not the person being interviewed, but it seems like the wiki doesn’t really care if it’s the person being interviewed in that website or if it’s the part of the interview without any sources, y’know what I mean? Balugio (talk) 09:39, November 16, 2025 (EST)

Hey, it’s Nakamtsu. Again.

https://x.com/kazzuki2005/status/1657895952144011264 Just see this. Also, this https://x.com/kazzuki2005/status/1449179964742373377 is odd. Balugio (talk) 12:33, December 6, 2025 (EST)

I saw them and I have already them saved, but from what I understand, that "Super Game Boy" Dr. Mario might be another character. I need to check. Mariuigi Khed 12:58, December 6, 2025 (EST)

And I have no (fresh) idea where the "Mario Jr." picture was. I dare to say, tho, maybe it was a promotional picture for Baby Mario but it wasn't disclosed what that Baby Mario was yet (remember the time we all thought he was Mario's son? It's probably something like that) Mariuigi Khed 13:10, December 6, 2025 (EST)

Well, if someone in this wiki had an X account (which I’m sure someone does,) they could see the comments and see if there’s anything helpful in there. TUMF has an X account for sure. Maybe they could help. Balugio (talk) 16:08, December 6, 2025 (EST)

There's one in total. About "how good" the art is. Mariuigi Khed 17:29, December 6, 2025 (EST)

What does that mean? Also, sorry I didn't answer sooner. Balugio (talk) 12:35, December 9, 2025 (EST)

The only comment present doesn't lead to anything. Mariuigi Khed 12:36, December 9, 2025 (EST)

Oh. Well, someone could try to DM the guy asking about the image. Also asking if he has any other images with Dr. Mario Nakamatsu or maybe another possible Mario family member like that Mario Jr. guy. Whatever the case, I guess we could add something in the notes saying something like. In art for the Super Mario Kodansha manga [I guess it’s from there, everything this guy posts is from there], a character resembling Mario with "Jr." written on his hat and Princess Peach is with him. Or something like that. Balugio (talk) 13:43, December 9, 2025 (EST)

Yeah, about that... he died. Like a few months ago. Mariuigi Khed 15:11, December 9, 2025 (EST)

Ok 🙁. Then let's see if he had family. Someone (not me, I can't for personal reasons) could contacy one of his relatives and ask about stuff. I know this sounds a little crazy, but it might work. Balugio (talk) 08:33, December 10, 2025 (EST)

OR, more likely, someone that can access the manga or the magazine goes out there to find where the art is used and find a context. Mariuigi Khed 09:20, December 10, 2025 (EST)

That's a good idea, but we don't know where exactly the art is from. Balugio (talk) 09:25, December 10, 2025 (EST)

themushroomkingdom.net and Archive.org Mariuigi Khed 09:27, December 10, 2025 (EST)

But that doesn't specify from which volume the art is. Balugio (talk) 09:28, December 18, 2025 (EST)

That's the neat part: YOU search it. (Not) Jokes aside, I checked. I don't see that image anywhere in the online scans of the volumes. MAYBE it's in the cover's wings that were not scanned (shame, there are funny arts and author's comments, but I can ask the ebay sellers to send me photos of them), or is just plain an original art that he didn't manage to post, or it was made for a BomBom Magazine cover or article (in which case... we are screwed). Mariuigi Khed 09:45, December 18, 2025 (EST)

So we're screwed? That would be bad, because I'm always looking to expand Mario's family (though usually without any success.) However, there's also that Super Game Boy Dr. Mario from that first image. He could be interesting too. I dunno. Balugio (talk) 11:46, December 18, 2025 (EST)

"Screwed" in the sense, we would need a lot of info we, as not-Japanese cannot easily access (and not cheaply, I might add: I just got the chance to get the SMB3 manga... 300€, in installments, luckily), and differently from ebay, most magazines are on Japanese sites which don't even accept oversea messages. We CAN find them... we need either to be rich to pay trusted guys to buy them for us and send it at our home (all the while KNOWING what to look for) OR we just need to go in Japan, go to a library and make scan there thanks to their archives. Sure we could ask around on the internet or reddit, but even there it's not AS easy to find the right people to ask for. Mariuigi Khed 11:55, December 18, 2025 (EST)

Ok, I'm currently doing the Super Mario: Donkey Kong 2. I can already tell you... the "Super Game Boy" Dr. Mario is another guy just like Dr. Nakamatsu. I currently put "Hakase Mario" (Professor Mario) for his name, but he is just refered as "Hakase" in the story. I'm checking everything to see if a name appears, but at first glance, nothing yet. Mariuigi Khed 10:32, January 29, 2026 (UTC)

Ok, I'll be using "Tensai Hakase" (Genius Professor) for this character, from now. Mariuigi Khed 22:03, January 29, 2026 (UTC)

Add a pets section

It’d be useful, I think. Balugio (talk) 22:41, April 11, 2026 (UTC)

Overhaul the way we cover Mario's family members

This talk page proposal has already been settled. Please do not edit this section or its subsections. If you wish to discuss the article, please do so in a new section below the proposal.

Convert this page, Mario's Dad and Mom into list pages 1-0-4-0
This proposal acts as somewhat of an extension of one from last year, which, while a good start, I feel does not fully get to the heart of the issue with the way we cover Mario's family. In short, Mario's relatives have never been a consistent element of the Mario franchise, but this article seemingly treats it like it is, with both the language used ("Many of the family members were only ever seen or referenced in The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!") as well as the way it simply lists every relative of Mario in alphabetical order with zero organizing. To me, it feels like the biggest leftover from the wiki's 2000s days of constant fanon nonsense that we currently have. It's, quite simply, nuts, and I think we really have to do something about it.

I propose that we change this article into a list page; it essentially already is, just without the name or any kind of formatting. Call it something like "List of Mario relatives" perhaps. It would be structured in a similar manner to the List of implied characters article, organising each distinct incarnation of a relative under the specific piece of media they appear in. I think this would be a good way to make it clear that Mario's family is moreso a loose concept and not a proper established thing in the franchise.

On a related note, as none of Mario's parents are the same character, and most distinct relatives have unique pages of their own, I also propose that we give each notable incarnation of Mario's parents their own articles. This would either involve splitting the current Mario's dad and mom articles or converting them into list articles as well. I personally support the former, as the formatting of the new "List of Mario relatives" page would mean that every incarnation of Mario's parents would get an entry here (as opposed to the current one where the moms and dads are all lumped together into one entry), which would make potential "list of Mario dads/moms" articles essentially truncated versions of this one with no new information presented. If they were to be split, "Mario's dad" and "Mario's mom" would become redirects to this page.

For the record, I consider the following characters currently listed on both Mario parent pages notable enough to deserve a page:

• Papa from Hisshō Technique Kan Peki-ban
• Mama and Papa from Super Mario Issun-bōshi
• Mama Mario from The Super Mario Bros. Super Show
• Mario and Luigi's "fake" parents from Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
• Mario and Luigi's "real" parents from Yoshi's New Island
• Mario's mom from The Super Mario Bros. Movie
• Mario's dad from The Super Mario Bros. Movie

Meanwhile, the following are in my opinion minor enough to not deserve their own articles, and would only warrant mention on the revised version of this page:

• Mario's parents in Family Album "The Early Years"
• Mario's parents in the Kodansha manga
• Mario's parents in the Mario Quiz Cards
• Mario's parents in Super Mario 4koma Manga Theater
• All instances where a parent is only implied. I think these would warrant inclusion on both this page and the List of implied characters.

All of the "impersonal references" in the Mario's mom article would be removed entirely; we really don't need to document each time a character uses the word "mother" in any context related to Mario.

Proposer: Snessy (talk)
Deadline: October 3, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)

Convert into a list page, split Mario's Dad and Mom into unique pages for notable parents

1. Snessy (talk) Per proposal.

#Concepts of Brett's parents (talk) My main issue with the current articles of Mario's parents is that they were retitled to "Mario's dad" and "Mario's mom" in order to cover them as a character concept rather than specific ones, yet most of their articles still treat them as if they were singular, established characters. Making an unique page for each notable individual depictions of the parents would solve this problem.

Convert this page, Mario's Dad and Mom into list pages, do not give notable parents unique pages

1. Mariuigi Khed (talk) I agree with Brett on overhaul-ing the parents' pages, but... I find it a bit exaggerated to separate all the iterations.
2. Wandering Pietro (talk) Per Mariuigi Khed. Mind you, the Hammer Bro parents might be a bit of an outlier in this case, (They also happen to be the parents of Princess Peach in that story, which means that they are not 'just' Mario's parents.) but their situation is loose enough that I don't think it would be much of a deal-breaker whether we choose to merge them or not.
3. Concepts of Brett's parents (talk) After reading Mariugi Khed's vote, I think it would be better to list every iterations in the same page, rather than giving an unique article for each specific ones, given that all of these versions only appeared once.
4. SolemnStormcloud (talk) Per all.

Do Nothing

Rework this article into a list article with per-piece of media organisation

canceled by proposer

Support

1. Snessy (talk) Per proposal.
2. Wandering Poplin (talk) Per proposal.
3. LadySophie17 (talk) Per proposal. The current article structure implies "Aunt Luigeena" is in the same family as "Marīo" and "Uncle Arthur". None of them are.
4. Mariuigi Khed (talk) Per all.

Oppose

Delete the Mario's dad and Mario's mom articles

canceled by proposer

Support

1. Snessy (talk) Per proposal.
2. Ambiguously-defined relative of Wandering Poplin (talk) Per proposal, although I believe that, if this option succeeds, the pages are supposed to be turned into redirects rather that being outright deleted. (Or at least, that's what I recall from similar discussions prior.)

Oppose

1. LadySophie17 (talk) Why on Earth would we outright delete the articles for Mario's mom and dad? Most other members of their family already get articles, so why would the two most recurring roles not have theirs? They are pretty much the only members of their family that have appeared more than once (apart from their grandma, apparently?). This should have been a single "Replace Mario's dad and Mario's mom with dedicated articles for their incarnations", as per the options below, but why is this a two part vote? Deleting the mom/dad articles on its own accomplishes nothing. Creating dedicated articles without addressing what happens to the parent articles (hah) also causes confusion. This only works if they are one process. With that said, I still disagree with splitting the incarnations, as long as we treat these two pages like the vote above, as "lists" of the different incarnations of their parents.
2. Mariuigi Khed (talk) Per LadySophie17.
3. Camwoodstock (talk) Per LadySophie. There's no real reason we can think of to outright nuke these two pages, not from an organizational standpoint, not from a logistical standpoint, none.

Give dedicated articles to notable incarnations of Mario's parents

canceled by proposer

Support

1. Snessy (talk) Per proposal.

Oppose

1. LadySophie17 (talk) Per my vote above?
2. Mariuigi Khed (talk) As discussed below.

#Wandering Pietro (talk) For the moment, I think it's best to have the parents fully merged to this page, since I don't see a particularly good reason why any of them require their own separate pages. The TSMBSS and Ilummination ones do have a bit of merit behind the concept, but I'm still not fully convinced.

Comments

@Wandering Poplin: Yeah, they would be turned into redirects, I just forgot to specify that. I do also get your point re: the last option. Since my main reason for wanting to do it was due to the non-mom and dad TSMBSS and Illumination relatives having pages of their own, it did make me consider the potential of an alternate option that'd basically be the opposite; merging all of the family members into this page. Do you think that'd be a good idea, or do some of them still merit pages of their own? Snessy (talk) 23:39, September 19, 2026 (UTC)

After having given it some thought... I'm not entirely sure. Perhaps it would best be determined on a case-by-case basis?

I can see Aunt Luigeena or Uncle Tony* being merged to this page quite easily. But characters such as Ima no Mario, Marilyn, and Luigi(but that one is so obvious that it should go without saying.) seem to be important enough to the storylines they appear in that attempting to merge them to this article would probably negatively affect their coverage. I'm not sure how to proceed on that issue, so for the moment, I have removed the vote.

*For the record, I did not watch the movie where Uncle Tony appears, so perhaps I am uninformed regarding his relevance as a whole. Wandering Poplin (talk) 00:08, September 20, 2026 (UTC)

Question: if we were to separate the iterations for these minor characters... shouldn't we then do the same for the main cast? I remember we once had the 1993 movie characters separated. If we decide to go in this direction, should we implement those back and also add the rest, like the DiC cartoons, Universal movies, and, at this point, even the major comics/mangas? Mariuigi Khed 07:48, September 20, 2026 (UTC)

I would say no. I think the meaningful difference here is that said adaptations of the main cast are all adapted from a distinct individual. Both Super Show's King Koopa and the 1993 movie's President Koopa are based on Bowser the video game character, for example. Meanwhile, this is not the case for any of Mario's various parents. None of them are adapted from a "canon" parent character, instead all being adaptations of the same general concept of Mario and Luigi having parental figures. Even the two sets of parents that Nintendo had the most direct involvement with, the ones from Yoshi's Island and the Illumination movie, don't really share anything in common other than their status (I also don't really see the YI parents as being "characters" as opposed to a representation of the concept either; we only ever see their lower bodies, after all. In retrospect, I'm kind of doubting whether they do deserve distinct pages or are only worth a mention on this one). Snessy (talk) 19:21, September 20, 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, that was what I thought. Honestly, I would be content with the current situation for the "major" family members (we could rework them, but overall, they seems ok), but considering that we are "purging" numerous minor characters here and there, I think making a separate list per category/series for those (like these minor relatives) would be the better solution. Mariuigi Khed 20:59, September 20, 2026 (UTC)

@LadySophie17: Yeah, I really should have formatted this better. Could've gotten away with not making it a poll proposal if I'd done so too, but oh well. That said, my main point with deleting the pages is that, with the way the Mario's family page would be structured, they would contain entries on each incarnation of Mario's parents as well, meaning that the Mario's dad and Mario's mom pages would essentially just be truncated versions of the Mario's family page with no unique information in them. Snessy (talk) 21:17, September 20, 2026 (UTC)

Decided to just overhaul the whole thing. Should hopefully be better formatted now. Snessy (talk) 22:21, September 20, 2026 (UTC)

Should we make a similar proposal for Peach's mother and father, Bowser's mother, Wario's mother and Daisy's father, as they're also major characters' parents how had different iterations in several medias? Brett (talk) 16:17, September 22, 2026 (UTC)

I guess so, even tho (apart from the Mushroom King and Bowser's mother) I think they are all quite alright in terms of page settings. Mariuigi Khed 17:00, September 22, 2026 (UTC)