Talk:List of other soundtracks with Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music

Addition of track images?

Should we add the images for each track on the tables in a new column next to each track name? A vast majority of the Super Mario-related tracks have unique images/screenshots for each of them that appear while listening to it, so I think that it could be a good idea to include them in with the other information. I understand that obtaining said images can be tricky; even I need to manually crop a screenshot of the app itself to get a good enough photo of the image. I also know it's not exactly needed to improve this page, but I think it would be nice and interesting to look at, and it would cap off all of the unique aspects that each track has. - MrHonor 02:02, December 14, 2024 (EST)

Continuing from above, here's a mockup of what it would probably look like with the images:

Image	Title	Length	Playlist(s)
	"Ground BGM"†	3:07	New Adventures, Selects
	"Timer Warning"	0:04
	"'Hurry Up!' Ground BGM"†	2:09

Again, only asking here as it would be a big overhaul to the page itself. - MrHonor 02:37, December 15, 2024 (EST)

I'm saying yes you absolutely should. Go for it. Xiahou Ba^{(the Nasty Warrior)} 02:47, December 15, 2024 (EST)

Fix unnecessary space between table and images?

Hey so I'm getting really bothered by the unnecessary space between the album and table as displayed on desktop browsers. Is there a way to fix that? Previously LadySophie17 tried to fix it but it was reverted because APPARENTLY "these are to give the tables more horizontal space so that the images in them don't get shrunk as much (as well as generally looking more aesthetically pleasing imo)"

Like, no way??? That only happens on mobile and it makes me mad. Can we just fix that or something? Please? --CyonOfGaia (talk) 23:01, December 23, 2024 (EST)

I'm fixing Steve (talk) 23:02, December 23, 2024 (EST)

Source images

I hope this is alright to send here, I've gone through the trouble of directly obtaining just about every image used by Nintendo Music and uploaded them to a public Google Drive folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PnkKs6BIhPjOefI0Uvk5zk7TPB2onr58

They are all publicly accessible in the same way the playlist covers are, and the original image names are maintained here, so getting the source URL is just a matter of appending the image name (without the extension) to "https://image-assets.m.nintendo.com/". For example, the image used by the track "Ground BGM" from Super Mario Bros. is located at https://image-assets.m.nintendo.com/35f265cd-97f4-4478-8a4e-04f96cc5e3e3, and so the image is called 35f265cd-97f4-4478-8a4e-04f96cc5e3e3.jpeg here.

Uploading all of these to the wiki is frankly too daunting for the amount of time I personally have available, however I hope to continually update this folder within 24 hours of any addition to the service, so I hope it'll be of use. Polley001 (talk) 10:07, January 4, 2025 (EST)

Names of source tracks for non-Mario arrangement tracks?

Should we add a section on the tables for non-Super Mario games that show what the original track is for each arrangement? As it is, the current tracks used by nintendogs and Pikmin 4 that originate from the Super Mario franchise use different names for their arrangements as opposed to the names of the original compositions; for example, "Toy: Mario Kart" (the name of the arrangement in nintendogs) vs. "GCN Yoshi Circuit" (the original name of the track as we know it). Additionally, some track names are not as obvious as others as for what the original track is. Not everyone is going to be able to identify "Mechanical Harp: Lullabies" from Pikmin 4 as being an arrangement of "Piranha Plant's Lullaby" upon reading it here for the first time, and the image of the track itself doesn't give a good hint at it, either. MrHonor 07:36, March 1, 2025 (EST)

I think it's a good idea, I'm all for it. Polley001 (talk) 12:37, March 1, 2025 (EST)

Alright, I'll give it a shot. Anyone is free to change my edits if necessary. MrHonor 00:03, March 2, 2025 (EST)

Split into individual soundtrack release articles

Listing the details of each Nintendo Music soundtrack release on one article is unsustainable given the multitude of games already detailed and the vast quantity of games that could be added in the future. In addition, Nintendo Music soundtrack releases are comparable to other soundtrack releases (including particularly the digital-only release Super Mario Odyssey Sound Selection), which already have their own articles. Given the current situation, a split for each soundtrack section from this article likely makes sense, with the existing sections serving as brief summaries of the soundtrack and links to the full articles. B700465189a9 (talk) 10:26, July 15, 2025 (EDT)

My thoughts exactly, individual articles for each soundtrack simply makes sense. I dunno if there'd even necessarily be a need for this page afterwards, as we could simply link to each article in the Super Mario soundtracks table on the main Nintendo Music page (though we'd need a solution for the Super Mario tracks in non-Super Mario games). I'd also like to add that while certain soundtracks on Nintendo Music are clearly derived from another release (such as the Super Mario Odyssey Original Soundtrack), I would personally be very opposed to any suggestions that they should share an article with their counterparts. Polley001 (talk) 11:57, July 15, 2025 (EDT)

That might be a good idea, we have over 20 Super Mario-related soundtracks now, with much more on the way. It might allow us to cover these soundtracks in much greater detail than what we currently have on this page. As for the arrangements found in other games outside Super Mario, perhaps an article like "List of Super Mario tracks in other games on Nintendo Music" might help? MrHonor 09:29, July 16, 2025 (EDT)

I understand the need to split this article up, but I think individual articles for every single game is overkill, as it would scatter the information too much and make it more annoying to navigate, on top of causing issues with where to cover the non-Mario games. And I think it would feel silly to dedicate a page to listing 8 tracks from Dr. Mario (Game Boy), another to list 10 tracks from Dr. Mario (NES), another for 14 tracks from Super Mario Bros. 2, etc. My preferred solution would be to split it up by console, much like the app itself does on its search screen, as I think this would give us a more reasonable number of reasonably sized pages. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 11:27, July 17, 2025 (EDT)

I honestly see ups and downs to either approach, but after considering it, I'm leaning per-game. Splitting by system would be easier to navigate but could potentially become unsustainable as well in the long term. Individual articles for each game might make things more scattered, but could definitely allow more descriptiveness (eg comparing with other soundtracks for the same game). I don't think some soundtracks being on the smaller side is that much of an issue, personally. As for non-Mario games, perhaps an overarching article for all of those would work. Reese Rivers ^{(talk | contribs)} 19:25, July 17, 2025 (EDT)

It will presumably be quite some time until we reach a point where a per-system split could be problematic, considering the rate at which they add soundtracks to this app and how few Mario games most of the systems have at present (currently, Game Boy, GameCube, Wii, and 3DS each have only one while GBA, DS, and Wii U still don't have any, excluding redirects). If a per-system split does eventually end up causing an issue in the long term, we can cross that bridge when we come to it. For now, I think it's more important to prioritise easier navigation without excessively splitting up the information and making it more annoying to find. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 19:57, July 17, 2025 (EDT)

I think a good solution would be to change this page to a "List of Super Mario soundtracks on Nintendo Music" one. Soundtracks which don't have individual pages will have all of their details here, while the rest will largely refer you to their individual articles. Polley001 (talk) 14:01, July 22, 2025 (EDT)

I'm confused, are you suggesting we would have individual pages for some soundtracks but not others? Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 20:46, July 22, 2025 (EDT)

Uh, why was this article made? I thought the split was still being discussed. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 07:22, July 22, 2025 (EDT)

Split Nintendo Music soundtracks

This talk page proposal has already been settled. Please do not edit this section or its subsections. If you wish to discuss the article, please do so in a new section below the proposal.

split by game 13-4-0-0
13 out of 16 voters (81.3%) approve the first place option.
It's becoming pretty apparent that this article is getting too large, and is in need of a split.

So below are the ways I believe this article should be split:

• An article for each individual game.
• An article for each individual console.
• An article for each individual decade.

Simple as that really.

Proposer: YoYo (talk)
Deadline: August 6, 2025, 23:59 GMT Closed early on July 30, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Split each soundtrack into their own page

1. yoyo music (talk) Per proposal.
2. Skurvy Music (talk) Per proposal. We've given (and are going to give, for albums that don't have articles yet) every album its own seperate article, so I don't know why it should be different for the albums on Nintendo Music purely because they are digital albums.
3. Honor Music (talk) Per proposal. Covering each soundtrack separately can allow us to include more details we couldn't otherwise add through any other option.
4. Rykitu Music (talk) This is already being done. Well, they are set for deletion now, and by the time most people read this, it will be deleted. Per all. Recommend restoring the pages once, and if, the proposal passes.
5. SGoW (talk) These are albums and deserve the same treatment that every other album on the wiki gets.
6. Reese Rivers' Greatest Hits (talk) This is the best option for giving detailed information about each soundtrack, in my opinion.
7. Kingoffire U: Original User Soundtrack (talk) Per all.
8. Yoshi's Space Station Music (talk) Per proposal. Since there are going to be games with bigger soundtracks grouped together in the other options, I think this one is the best option to do.
9. Camwoodstock (talk) Per proposal. Trying to determine what game is "worth" having its own page separate from the console list boils mainly down to user preference, so even though this may be harder to implement, it would absolutely be worth it.
10. Music to Pound the Ground To: PhDedede's Greatest Hits! (talk) Per proposal. I feel like if we do split it console-by-console, some of the pages are gonna get so big that we split them game-by-game anyway (the Switch already has some pretty massive soundtracks), so we may as well cut the middle man.
11. Waluigi Time (talk) I was a little skeptical, but seeing this in action sold me on it and a few shorter articles isn't the end of the world. Splitting only by console is just kicking the can down the road.
12. Polley001 (talk) Per SGoW and Reese.
13. The Original Motion Picture Scroogetrack (talk) This is consistent with how soundtrack articles already are, and would be much easier to link to on game articles and navboxes.

Split each console into their own page

1. yoyo music 2 (talk) secondary option.
2. Hewer (talk) Per my comments in the above discussion, I think this is the most sensible way to go about splitting without scattering information too much and making it annoying to navigate (and it would feel pretty silly to dedicate pages to the 19-second Pinball soundtrack, the series of beeps that is the Golf soundtrack, etc.). I also prefer this to splitting by decade since this option is more accurate to how the app itself organises the soundtracks.
3. Tails777 (talk) Per Hewer. I’d also say this is easily comparable to how we handle Mario Kart Tour’s many race tracks.
4. PopitTart (talk) There should be a split, but we don't need dedicated pages for each of the tiny NES "soundtracks" or the one Mario song in Pikmin 4.

Comments

We'd also have to decide how to handle the non-Mario games if the first option passes (F-Zero X, nintendogs, Pikmin 4). Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 06:02, July 23, 2025 (EDT)

why would we have soundtracks for non-mario games - YoYo (Talk) 07:56, July 23, 2025 (EDT)

View the article. We're only covering the tracks they have that come from the Mario franchise. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 08:04, July 23, 2025 (EDT)

I personally think all non-mario ones can be grouped into their own page together due to how few there are, however I feel it is better if this issue is tackled once this proposal passes, in case splitting by game doesn't even win - YoYo (Talk) 13:33, July 23, 2025 (EDT)

Well, we only list certain tracks from those non-Mario games, and the reason for that is because they're re-arrangements of past Mario songs. rend (talk) (edits) 08:06, July 23, 2025 (EDT)

If the first option were to pass (being having soundtracks with their own articles), would we need to create a template for Nintendo Music specifically? With the inclusion of many soundtrack articles, including the main, playlists, gallery, and names in other languages articles, it feels like there would be enough substance for a template, as even more soundtracks get added. It could also help for navigation, too.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by MrHonor (talk).

A template is definitely a good idea, and will make navigating all of the games' soundtracks much easier. While we're mentioning NIOL, I think that the NIOL article should be eventually retired in favour of putting those on each soundtrack's article. It's becoming about as untenable as the main track list article, due to the number of tracks and images. Reese Rivers ^{(talk | contribs)} 16:06, July 23, 2025 (EDT)

Yeah, that might be a good idea. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe will definitely be the most challenging to fit 'em all in, but it'll be possible. MrHonor 17:56, July 23, 2025 (EDT)

@Rykitu: The fact some of these soundtracks already got unilaterally split isn't really an argument as to whether they should be split. I think that those splits were premature, they shouldn't have been done while the discussion above was still ongoing. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 11:20, July 23, 2025 (EDT)

Yeah, I noticed that too. This proposal should've been started and settled before pages like that were created. Rykitu

I feel like it can be either-or wheb it comes to splitting these. Some soundtracks are MASSIVE, too big to have them share an article with other soundtracks on the same system (e.g. putting all the Switch titles on the same page won't solve the current issue at all, given the massive sizes of, say, Mario Odyssey and MK8Deluxe). On the other hand, some of the soundtracks are so small that it makes you wonder why they don't share an article with other soundtracks for the same system (e.g. Pinball has by far the shortest soundtrack of all of Nintendo Music, with a mere two tracks that lasts less than twenty seconds total. Is that REALLY worth its own article?)
What I'm saying, is that I think a case-by-case system would work better (especially since small soundtracks still exist on later consoles too) rend (talk) (edits) 18:38, July 23, 2025 (EDT)

Whether a soundtrack is "worth" its own article or not is certainly subjective. I've put together what a Pinball soundtrack article might look like on my userspace, and in my opinion, there's plenty of information to lay out for it despite the soundtrack's short length. (I even got to add a note about that!) Opinions may vary of course, but I think this approach is sensible. Reese Rivers ^{(talk | contribs)} 19:38, July 23, 2025 (EDT)

Quick question, would albums released via Nintendo Music count as pieces of media towards a song's viability for the recurring themes category (like Donkey Kong Country Trilogy or Music to Pound the Ground to: Yoshi's Story Game Soundtrack)? PhDedede (talk) 11:43, July 24, 2025 (EDT)

For my two cents, I don't think soundtrack releases (Nintendo Music included) should count towards the recurring threshold at all. That's not really a "reuse" in my eyes so much as it is promotional material for the game. As far as I'm aware, counting them isn't something we ever agreed on, just a unilateral decision that stuck - possibly to trojan horse some articles in when our standards were a lot more strict? Now that our standards are more relaxed and any officially named track (i.e. inherently anything on a soundtrack release) can get a page, maybe it's time to rethink that. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 13:25, July 24, 2025 (EDT)

I don't really care one way or the other if soundtracks should be counted (I just assumed that was logic that was agreed on at some point), and perhaps this is a discussion for another day, but I do see your logic. DKC1 has a TON of its music in the recurring themes section and that's mainly a result of the game having two remakes and three soundtrack releases; that already adds up to six. PhDedede (talk) 14:54, July 24, 2025 (EDT)

Kakariko Soldiers

With the Water Land/Fairy Fountain situation cleared up I have to ask, should we be counting "Kakariko Soldiers" as an arrangement? If Koji Kondo accidentally made one Zelda theme similar to a Mario song, how do we know for sure this one is intentional? I can definitely hear the similarities but it still sounds distinct enough that it could just be another coincidence.--Bee Kirby (talk) 21:59, July 28, 2025 (EDT)

Give it a couple of days. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 22:43, July 28, 2025 (EDT)

Article preservation

This article has been tagged with a deletion request in favor of List of other soundtracks with Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music. Since the goal of splitting Nintendo Music articles was always to leave this article with non-Super Mario franchise soundtracks only, meaning its scope is the same as the newly-created article, I believe this article should be preserved and any additional content from the newer article should be moved over instead. Doing so allows the history of this article and its talk page to remain accessible. B700465189a9 (talk) 08:58, August 13, 2025 (EDT)

I think we should simply rename this article to something like "List of non-Super Mario soundtracks with Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music" or something. Polley001 (talk) 09:20, August 13, 2025 (EDT)

Now that you mention it, since all the information can be found on List of other soundtracks with Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music, it can easily be copied over here so we can preserve this specific article's history. I see no downsides to this. However, "List of non-Super Mario soundtracks with Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music" is a bit of a mouthful. I suggest we rename this article to "List of other soundtracks with Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music", the same name as the recently created article, then copy over the information from there to here and then delete that page. MrHonor 14:38, August 13, 2025 (EDT)

I would support merging this page to List of other soundtracks with Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music the way MrHonor described above (copy aforementioned article's info to this one, delete aforementioned article, and move this article to aforementioned title to preserve revision history), as what B700465 is saying doesn't change fact that this article in its current state is still redundant, as List of other soundtracks with Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music does what this article already is doing but better (i.e. it also has Other playlists information). Though, I suppose MrHonor has been a bit hasty creating the latter instead of moving the former article to it.
Also, where in the above proposal has it been stated that the goal of splitting this article into multiple soundtracks was "always to leave this article with non-Super Mario franchise soundtracks only"? The only information I can find about what to do with the non-Mario tracks is in the comments, where the proposer YoYo stated they think "all non-mario ones can be grouped into their own page together due to how few there are"... which is exactly what List of other soundtracks with Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music is, no? It's also a more accurate title of what it contains compared to "List of Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music" (which one would expect to contain Mario soundtracks first and foremost). rend (talk) (edits) 14:45, August 13, 2025 (EDT)

The proposer was evidently not aware that we even covered non-Super Mario soundtracks (quote, "why would we have soundtracks for non-mario games"), so it not being present in the proposal is squarely on them. I was personally always under the impression that this page would continue to be used for them after the split. As such I am of course also in favor of MrHonor's suggestion. Polley001 (talk) 17:21, August 13, 2025 (EDT)

Due to the new page being essentially copied over from this page with slightly different wording, it's been deleted, so I've moved this page to the suggested name above as the current name is no longer applicable. — Lady Sophie ^(T|C) 18:52, August 13, 2025 (EDT)

Regarding the audio samples notice

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On this page is a notice that asks for audio samples for the tracks found on this page. This notice's existence isn't an anomaly, as this notice was present on what this page was before the split, "List of Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music". What is an anomaly is why it was never acted upon, and why it's still here after the move. Now that this page has become List of other soundtracks with Super Mario tracks on Nintendo Music, I feel it is unnecessary to have it here in general. However, is this still something to bring over to each soundtrack article, being audio samples for each applicable track? It's worth noting that no audio sample is currently sourced from Nintendo Music itself (I'm not sure if it might be allowed, even with fair use), and the mastering could make tracks on the service sound different than the ones found here. Still, what's to do with it? MrHonor 23:11, August 13, 2025 (EDT)