Talk:Baby Waluigi

Delete (for now)

Conjecturally named articles are a tool, and they are a tool that should be used judiciously. So judiciously even obvious characters without names don't get articles due to MarioWiki:Minor NPCs. This article is not using that tool judiciously. We have a three sentence article, little more than the one sentence that fellow unnamed characters that lack pages like "A fish-like creature with a fishing rod that resembles a Spray Fish" have. I understand the rush of "wow, Nintendo finally closed the long standing question opened way back when they made Baby Wario, we have to make a page for them", and I understand "obviously, the character is Baby Waluigi because every other baby version character is named "Baby [Character Name]", but even still, what we have is a bad article that has a non-zero chance of perpetuating a fan nickname for something. And we want to avoid both of those things: the first because bad articles make the wiki a worse website and the second because Super Mario Wiki is about chronicling official material.

I say the correct solution to this article is to delete it for now. Instead, to head off the inevitable recreations, the page's title should redirect to Mario Tennis Fever#Babies. (And presumably, the entry for this character on that page is changed to "Baby counterpart of Waluigi" or something.) The page "Baby Waluigi" should only be recreated if one or both of the following two conditions are met:

• The character is named. (I know, it will probably be "Baby Waluigi" anyway...)
• There is literally anything of substance to say about the character. (So basically when we get the adventure mode trailer, and said trailer also doesn't somehow reveal the name of this character.)

Uh... where do I sign when I end a post on a list? Here's good, right? Salmancer (talk) 22:20, September 14, 2025 (EDT)

Going to throw out the Baby Rosalina had a page for her created with similar amounts of info pretty soon after when she was revealed for Mario Kart 8. Sdman213 (talk) 22:42, September 14, 2025 (EDT)

@Sdman123 did it get deleted? And even if it didn't, the wiki was probably a lot different 11 years ago. DELETE DEFINETLY! COLIN WAS HEREedit a page! 07:16, September 15, 2025 (EDT)

The Baby Rosalina page was created on April 30, 2014, the exact same day as the dedicated Mario Kart 8 Direct that officially revealed her in the first place, so I assume it did NOT get deleted; the only Baby Rosalina pages that were deleted prior were fan-made stuff way before Baby Rosa was revealed in MK8, and are stored on BJAODN.
And while the wiki was probably a lot different 11 years ago, creating pages for newly unveiled characters for upcoming games is NOT one of the things that got abandoned at all, for Odd Rock was also created pretty early on after her reveal.
Then again, both Baby Rosalina and Odd Rock are bad comparisons to Baby Waluigi, as Salamancer's argument is that Baby Waluigi has not been officially named yet, whereas Baby Rosalina and Odd Rock were given official names prior to their respective article creations. Still, though, I currently don't think it should be deleted; given the way the character is designed and that said design lines up with the other baby characters, I'd be surprised if they DIDN'T name it "Baby Waluigi". rend (talk) (edits) 13:21, September 15, 2025 (EDT)

We mean, he's a main character for an upcoming title. It's not like we're locking down Mr. E until his game releases, don't we? We'd rather have pre-empted the article and just have it sit fairly short until more information is revealed, than pre-emptively delete it under the assumption that, surely, there must be something different here... And then more information comes out, and it turns out we should've just kept it all along. ~Camwoodstock ( talk ☯ contribs ) 12:26, September 15, 2025 (EDT)

But Mr. E has a name. "The character that has no name but is very likely to be called 'Baby Waluigi'" doesn't. The case here is that "an subject without a name has to earn the right to having an article that uses conjectural name", and "the unnamed subject of this article" is not at a point where I feel the condition is met. We don't even know "playable vs NPC", "protagonist vs antagonist", "recurring vs just in the opening." We don't even know if "what's their name" is a main character; there's an non-zero chance they bugger off as soon as the cutscene ends, then only make two further appearances. (I recognize this is unlikely.) What we have on this page is just the contents of Mario Tennis Fever#Babies + one sentence, and I think that's not enough to justify using a tool whose instructions are "break in case Nintendo doesn't name something important". Odds are high this character will have a name and then they wouldn't need to have important things about them to have an article, but the people browsing Super Mario Wiki right now are doing so in the present and not in the future, and this article existing using a conjectural name is doing a disservice to them now. Salmancer (talk) 18:35, September 15, 2025 (EDT)

Honestly, I think you're overthinking this. I don't see anything wrong with having the article as is right now, and just filling it up with more information the more things drop, it's not like the article right now is a low effort article composing of only a single sentence. If Baby Waluigi isn't going to be called Baby Waluigi, then move his name appropriately when more information arrives. We have the upcoming template for a reason, readers know this is pre-release information that'll get filled up later on. Xiahou Ba^{(the Nasty Warrior)} 20:56, September 15, 2025 (EDT)