MarioWiki:Proposals

Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), removal of a previously added feature that has tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action(s) are done. Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so, not, e.g., "I like this idea!" "Vote" periods last for one week. All past proposals are archived.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{user|User name}}.

This page observes the No-Signature Policy.

How To

1. Actions that users feel are appropriate to have community approval first can be added by anyone, but they must have a strong argument.
2. Users then vote and discuss on the issue during that week. The "deadline" for the proposal is one week from posting at:
   • Monday to Thursday: 17:00 (5pm)
   • Friday and Saturday: 20:00 (8pm)
   • Sunday: 15:00 (3pm)
3. Every vote should have a reason accompanying it.
4. At any time a vote may be rejected if at least three active users believe the vote truly has no merit or was cast in bad faith. However, there must be strong reasons supporting the invalidation.
5. "# " should be added under the last vote of each support/oppose section to show another blank line.
6. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week.
7. If a proposal has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail by a margin of three votes. If a proposal reaches the deadline and the total number of votes for each option differ by two or less votes, the deadline will be extended for another week.
8. Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
9. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
10. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation. However, the proposer can request that their proposal be deleted by a Sysop at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it.
11. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of a Sysop, the proposer can ask for that help.
12. There shouldn't be proposals about creating articles on a underrepresented or completely absent subject, unless there is major disagreement about whether the content should be included. To organize efforts about completing articles on missing subjects, try creating a PipeProject.
13. Proposals can not be made about System Operator promotions and demotions. Sysops can only be promoted and demoted by the will of Bureaucrats.
14. If the Sysops deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
15. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters, and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

The times are in EDT (UTC -4:00), and are set so that the user is more likely to be online at those times (after work/school, weekend nights). If a proposal is added on Saturday night at 11:59 PM EDT, the deadline is the next Saturday night at 8:00 PM. If it is a minute later, the deadline is a day plus 15 hours (Sunday), as opposed to a day minus 4 hours.

CURRENTLY: 12:07, 29 April 2024 (EDT)

New Features

None at the moment.

Removals

Luigi and Boo FAs

I was on the featured articles page recently and I saw that the Luigi and Boo articles are still nominated. You wouldn't believe how many fan votes there are on the Boo one, and Luigi's has been there for over a year. I propose that the nominations should be deleted because of those things and can be started up again if the articles improve.

Proposer: McQueenMario (talk)
Deadline: October 13, 2009, 17:00

Remove Luigi and Boo FAs

1. McQueenMario (talk) - See above.

Keep Luigi and Boo FAs

1. Time Q (talk): Nah, keep those pages. We have no right to delete them. Nomination pages are only deleted if they stay unchanged for one month.

Comments

Note that this happened a while ago for the Bowser FA. McQueenMario (talk)

I can't remember that happened. And I don't think so, otherwise I would have protested against it :P Time Q (talk)

You saw Tucayo's proposal yet? Unless this is something different. LeftyGreenMario (talk)

No, wait a minute. You want to delete old nominated FA's, right? Sorry LeftyGreenMario (talk)

Splits & Merges

Mario Baseball Special swings/pitches

The Mario Super Star Baseball special pitches and swings are in the same article (Peach's Heart Swing and Heart Pitch are under Heart Ball while on the Slugger's page, the character bios list them separately. The Slugger's special pages are being made right now and I'm wondering of the pitches and swings should also be merged into one page like the MSSB ones or if the MSSB's should be split.

Propeser: MC Hammer Bro. (talk)
Deadline: October 7th, 2009 17:00PM

Split

1. MC Hammer Bro. (talk) I think they should be split because one is an offensive special and one is defensive.

Continue like the other pages

1. Super Paper Mario Bros. (talk) – Although this sounds ideal, they are moves in the same game that are related to the character. If we split everything based on offensive and defensive, this article would be a good candidate for splitting, and it is rather small as of now. We would end up with little stublets if we split these articles.
2. Baby Mario Bloops (talk) S.P.M.B. has a good point. Lately, even I, would likes to have articles split, been merging them. We already have enough stubs right now, and we definitely don't need stublets.
3. Knife (talk) - Per Super Paper Mario Bros.
4. Stooben Rooben (talk) — Per SPMB.
5. Marioguy1 (talk) - Per SMB (who I refuse to call SPMB)!
6. Yoshario (talk) – Per all.
7. Gamefreak75 (talk) - Per all.
8. Mariofan459 (talk) - Per SPMB and BMB.

Comments

The pages have already been made, and someone made a really nice template for them (I think it might've been Edofenrir), but the Super Sluggers Star Swings are just as important as the Mario Power Tennis Power Shots. I made almost all of them, and they are good pages, in my opinion, and they haven't been deleted or made fun of, so I think they should stay. FunkyK38 (talk)

Mario Power Tennis has a set of offensive shots and defensive shots as well, but the differences are much greater. Mario's offensive power shot uses a hammer while his defensive shot is a spin jump. Just compare each character's shots and you'll note the difference. However the pitches and swings are not so different. Mario fires up the ball and speeds it up in both, Peach turns the ball temporarily invisible in both, etc..--Knife (talk) 22:31, 1 October 2009 (EDT)

We don't need to have separate articles for the pitches, those were already in the first Mario baseball game. I'm just saying that the swings are different, and they have different effects. FunkyK38 (talk)

Per FunkyK38. I think we already have a template for every Star Swing name. If there isn't, that should be a new proposal. Mariofan459 (talk)

Platformer levels articles

Some platforming levels (like Super Mario World articles) has whole article. Some has section in world (like SMB3). These in articles aren't short, but they sound like walkthroughs (Donut Ghost House). Also they contain basic errors (for example in Iggy's Castle we hear "Hitting the Yellow P-Switch will cover up some of the holes in the ground."). Where is yellow P-Switch? SMW has only Blue and Gray P-Switches.

Propeser: era64 (talk)
Deadline: October 14th, 2009 17:00PM

Changes

Change FA removal of votes rules

Well, if you have seen the Luigi nomination page, it is full of votes from the kind of "ZOMG LUIGI PWNS!!!" which are not valid reasons, and to remove them, we must go throught the sloooow process of getting 5 votes to remove them, which is as slow as annoying. So I propose any admin has the right to remove those votes who do anything but help. Who supports?

Proposer: Tucayo (talk)
Deadline: October 13, 2009, 17:00

Get rid of those votes

1. Tucayo (talk) - Per me.
2. Edofenrir (talk) - Instant per for Tucayo.
3. Super Paper Mario Bros. (talk) Per all. I think it is the administrators' duty to keep our wiki protected, I feel it is within their responsibilities to remove this kind of support for articles that are not complete. Although, we could just oppose the nomination overall and it wouldn't matter how many support votes there are.
4. Cobold (talk) I agree.
5. BabyLuigiOnFire (talk) Luigi wouldn't be a featured article any time soon, but I think the fan votes are a waste of space and should get stopped immediately.
6. Gamefreak75 (talk) Per all.
7. FunkyK38 (talk) Users should have a good reason to vote, not LUIGI PWNS! Per Tucayo.
8. Zero777 (talk) I am Zero! Although sometimes not all the time I would consider that an actual vote, your right there needs to be a good reason why the article should go up. Zero signing out.
9. LeftyGreenMario (talk) Fan votes are completely harmless, but I dislike to see them cluttering the whole page like that.
10. Mariofan459 (talk) - Per Tucayo.

Keep those votes

1. Time Q (talk): No, just no. First of all: You can't remove support votes from FA nominations, even if 5 users agree. And there are good reasons for that. "Fan votes", as you call them, do no harm. It simply doesn't matter if there are 5 or 500 support votes. As long as there is a single valid oppose vote, support votes don't matter. So why care about them? What's even more important is the point that what a fan vote actually is is unclear. I saw many people removing votes they believed were "fan votes" (probably in good faith), but most of the votes could actually refer to the page and thus were perfectly valid. For example, a vote such as "ZOMG LUIGI PWNS" looks like a "fan vote", but who are you to say the voter just talked about the character, not the article Luigi? Maybe he thinks that the article "pwns"? It would be unfair to remove those votes. Oh, and another point: Supporters are not even required to give "valid" reasons when supporting an FA nomination (what would such a reason look like anyway? Think about it - it could only consist of a listing of the FA requirements, which would be really redundant). Thus, you have no right to remove "fan votes" (votes without reasons just count as much as such with valid reasons, so why remove "fan votes"?). Sure, at first glance this looks like a proposal you can't oppose ("ZOMG fan votes suck let's get rid of them"), but please think about it twice.
2. Pie Shroom (talk)Per Time Q. And didn't it get changed from 5 to 3?

Comments

Is it even allowed to remove supporting votes? The last time I tried that, SPMB reverted my removal votes and said it isn't valid. - Edofenrir (talk)

It isn't valid, and it shouldn't be. Time Q (talk)

I'm just wondering, but what happens if you had a valid reason to vote, but the administrators removed it anyway? - BabyLuigiOnFire (talk)

Leave the admin a note on his/her talk page I'd assume. - Edofenrir (talk)

Pie Shroom: You're right, it did. However only for oppose votes (support votes still can't be removed). Time Q (talk)

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.