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Mario's Head? Isn't it that door he goes through when he throws the potion down? And the picture looks like low quality *goes to upload one* C???

Apparently it's "Mario's head" because he's dreaming of it. Though that's of course a bit strange. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 13:34, 27 August 2008 (EDT)
Hmm...But what if, Luigi or Toad or Peach were the controlled character. Would it still be his head? C???

I have a question. Should we note that in Doki Doki Panic, Subcon was a magical story book? SJ derp :P

It isn't confirmed that they are the same place, it is never called Subcon in the original... I think.- User:Zedxclon-

The Subconscious[edit]

Has anyone else thought about Subcon's meaning? I thought that, if Mario's journey was a dream, then the world of Subcon might actually be short for Subconscious. Does anyone else think that too? Arceus79 22:57, 24 March 2012 (EDT)

Oh, I derped. It says so in the trivia section... Arceus79 00:46, 25 March 2012 (EDT)


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Should it be renamed? I'm not sure about why this has to take priority. --Toasty.jpg FanOfYoshi NSMB - Splunkin Model.png 12:05, December 15, 2019 (EST)

It should stay as-is because Subcon is the name used in the manual Results May Vary (talk) 12:07, December 15, 2019 (EST)
While the fairies are named in-game in the credits. --Toasty.jpg FanOfYoshi NSMB - Splunkin Model.png 12:08, December 15, 2019 (EST)
Subcon is also an in-game name in the context of the world, such as when Mushroom Kingdom II is unlocked in Super Smash Bros. Melee. LinkTheLefty (talk) 12:14, December 15, 2019 (EST)
Might bring up a proposal later, in case of disagreement on that. --Toasty.jpg FanOfYoshi NSMB - Splunkin Model.png 08:30, December 16, 2019 (EST)
Btw, there should also be a disambiguation page. --Toasty.jpg FanOfYoshi NSMB - Splunkin Model.png 08:48, December 18, 2019 (EST)
Template:About exists for a reason, no need to make a two-article disambiguation page. TheDarkStar MLBISBJJDarkStar.png 10:20, December 18, 2019 (EST)

I don't see why this should be renamed. "Subcon" is the more popular term for the world, going to "Sub-con" or anything else just to distinguish it from the Subcon species that is more obscure doesn't make sense. The about template is enough. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 10:35, December 18, 2019 (EST)

And i don't see WHY this should take priority over the other Subcon. We don't know which one is the main. --Toasty.jpg FanOfYoshi NSMB - Splunkin Model.png 12:22, December 19, 2019 (EST)
I don't think it's too much of a stretch that the world the entire game takes place in is going to be searched for more than the fairies in the ending cutscene. --MK8DX Waluigi Icon.png Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 12:45, December 19, 2019 (EST)
Yes, i know, but the fairies are mainly what's to save. --Toasty.jpg FanOfYoshi NSMB - Splunkin Model.png 12:47, December 19, 2019 (EST)
Chances are, people are more familiar with the world than the species. I never even knew of the species until reading this wiki, because they aren't encountered in the game until the end and most don't have the physical manual anymore. Super Smash Bros. Melee even directly calls the Mushroom Kingdom II stage as set in Subcon ("Mushroom Kingdom II is open it's the dream world, Subcon!"), and there's no mention of the species in that game afaik. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 13:02, December 19, 2019 (EST)
Pretty sure they aren't in the manual, either. It's just like the "voice calling for help" the in-game prologue writing has. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:26, December 19, 2019 (EST)
ok why in the name of arceus would we rename something that appears as an in-game name in ssbm so that a species that appears exactly twice in the entire mario series and only has a manual name can take priority? about template exists.
i don’t follow. TheDarkStar MLBISBJJDarkStar.png 13:47, December 19, 2019 (EST)
Actually the species name only appears the same crawl that mixes up Birdo and Ostro's names among some other oddities (though these were admittedly fixed in SMA). Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:56, December 19, 2019 (EST)