Talk:Star (Mario Party series)

Merge stars that have the same design as Super Stars

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Current time: May 25, 2026, 23:38 (UTC)

EDIT: I've rewritten this proposal to make the intent more clear. I've also created a draft of what this page would look like when merged with the stars from Yoshi and Mario & Wario and treating the other stars as variants.

For context, this wiki has three different articles for mushroom items that currently have the exact same design: Mushroom, Super Mushroom and Dash Mushroom. The Super Mushroom first appeared in Super Mario Bros., then "genericized" Mushrooms with the same design, but not called "Super" Mushrooms and without the association with powering up, started appearing in other games, most notably as a healing item in RPGs and a speed-boosting item in Mario Kart. Then, the item in Mario Kart started being referred to as the "Dash Mushroom" to distinguish it specifically, despite it still using the exact same design. Originally this wiki split the Mushroom article further, with one specifically about its appearance as a healing item in RPGs, but now any mushroom with the classic red and white design that is clearly not a Super Mushroom or Dash Mushroom is merged into this article.

I think the current arrangement of mushroom articles is fair, because despite the shared designs, Nintendo seems intent on using unique names for Super Mushrooms and Dash Mushrooms due to their distinct behavior, but the other Mushrooms aren't given distinct names, and splitting based on gameplay function alone isn't a particularly great reason because subjects in this franchise can take on many different roles while still being the same entity.

Thing is, the Super Star has a very similar history to the Super Mushroom. It debuted in Super Mario Bros., and since then, "genericized" stars with very similar designs, but without the association with invincibility, have cropped up across the franchise. Examples of these that have their own articles are:

• Stars from Mario & Wario
• Power Star¹
• Star (Mario Party series)
• Mario's Star from Luigi's Mansion
• Star Road (Super Mario World)
• Big Star from New Super Mario Bros.

¹Used this design in its debut game, but was redesigned to be more distinct in Super Mario Galaxy

The goal of this proposal is to treat this "genericized Star the same way we treat the genericized Mushroom. That is, we merge Star (Mario & Wario) with this page, restructure the page to treat these as the same entity with different roles in the franchise, and treat the other aforementioned stars as variants of this Star. To be clear, Star Road, Super Star, Power Star, Big Star and Mario's Star will stay separate in the same way we keep Super Mushroom and Dash Mushroom separate from Mushroom. (I'm not opposed to merging some of those stars too, but that's best saved for another proposal.)

Additionally, the wiki does not have a separate article for the stars with this design in Yoshi. Its article refers to them as Super Stars, but as far as I can tell, they aren't explicitly referred to as Super Stars in the game or in the manual, and the Star Yoshi transformation in the game could indicate that it isn't a Super Star. Also, Yoshi (NES) (Nintendo Music) and Yoshi (Game Boy) (Nintendo Music) refer to them as just "stars". Maybe it's different in the manga adaptation or Japanese guidebook, but I can't read Japanese. To be fair, this game predates Mario & Wario, which was the first game to unambiguously use the Super Star design for an item generically called a "star" that doesn't make you invincible, so the concept may not have existed at the time. Still, I think we should cover these stars on this hypothetical "genericized" Star page as well. Either that, or we treat that Star as its own item or a Super Star explicitly.

As for article titles... currently, I think a page about all three should be moved to just "Star", since I think its prominence as a design in this franchise means it warrants being treated as the primary subject (see also Gallery:Miscellaneous stars), while Star gets moved to "Star (disambiguation)", but if we exclude the stars from Yoshi, then "Star (Super Mario franchise)" could work. I feel iffy about using the Super Mario label if we treat the item from Yoshi as the same thing, but that's also an option.

Proposer: Dive Rocket Launcher (talk)
Deadline: June 6, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)

Combine Star (Mario & Wario) and the stars from Yoshi with this page

1. Dive Rocket Launcher (talk) My preference.
2. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - I support parity with Mushroom, making a singular page for the miscellaneous "basic-ified" version of the prior power-up.
3. Camwoodstock (talk) Per proposal, and how we handle Mushroom as-is.
4. SolemnStormcloud (talk) This makes sense. Per proposal.

Merge Star (Mario & Wario) with this page, but keep treating the stars from Yoshi as Power Stars

1. Dive Rocket Launcher (talk) I'm also okay with this.

Create a separate page for the stars from Yoshi, but do not merge this page or Star (Mario & Wario)

1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - Secondary choice, since relative to each other, they are most likely incidental.

Do nothing

1. EvieMaybe (talk) I think there is some merit to this idea, but I would still like to oppose it. I think a better to handle this would involve enabling subpages in mainspace, and making each specialized Star a subpage of THE Star.... but until that happens, the current scheme works well enough.

#Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - Yoshi Star can either go in its own place (like M&W's already does) or the subjects named "Star" with no specification can go together a la Mushroom. I do not support considering the Power Stars or the Mario Party Stars to be the same as Super Star, though.

Prankster comment detected

@EvieMaybe If you don't want to merge anything, then what do you suggest we do about the stars in Yoshi? We still have to decide if it's specifically a Super Star or not, and if not, where to cover it. Dive Rocket Launcher 21:49, May 23, 2026 (UTC)

I sadly do not know enough about Yoshi to make a judgment. However, I do not think which star they are should affect the divide between Power Stars and Mario Party Stars and Super Stars. — eviemaybe (talk) 22:20, May 23, 2026 (UTC)

My proposal isn't trying to change the divide between Power Stars, Super Stars, and miscellaneous stars. I just want to treat all the miscellaneous stars with this design as the same subject. Where are people getting this idea from? Dive Rocket Launcher 23:55, May 23, 2026 (UTC)

@Doc von Schmeltwick You're misinterpreting the proposal. I'm not saying we should treat Power Stars or Super Stars as the same thing as the Mario Party stars. I'm saying we should treat the Mario Party stars, the stars from Mario & Wario, and the stars from Yoshi as the same concept. "the subjects named "Star" with no specification can go together a la Mushroom" is exactly what I'm proposing to do. I want to keep treating Super Stars and Power Stars as separate in the same way that we treat Super Mushrooms and Dash Mushrooms as different from regular Mushrooms. Dive Rocket Launcher 23:47, May 23, 2026 (UTC)

Oh, OK. I was mis-interpreting due to the list at the top. I'd suggest making an option to give the Yoshi Stars a completely unique page, as I don't see one. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:56, May 23, 2026 (UTC)