Talk:Mario Kart DS

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Mario Award winner Mario Kart DS has won a Mario Award in the First Awards Ceremony!!

I know I worked this article the most, but, anyone else who helped, thanks! If you can think of anything else to improve, do it. Wa Yoshihead.png TC@Y 11:12, 2 January 2007 (EST)

In my opinion, the items section should be higher up in the article. Otherwise, it looks great! Eric42 15:35, 2 January 2007 (EST)

Shy Guy picture[edit]

The picture of the shy guy is overlapping with the characters picture gallery (with a 1024*768 res). Any way to make it fit? --Cobold 13:20, 23 January 2007 (EST)

Ah, my 1280 X 1024 res made the pic too big. Is that better? Wa Yoshihead.png TC@Y 15:40, 23 January 2007 (EST)
Yep, I can see Yoshi now. Thanks. --Cobold 16:04, 23 January 2007 (EST)

Eight-person play[edit]

MK DS is not the first Mario Kart to feature 8-person play. Double Dash featured up to 16-person play in LAN mode. --Cobold

Mission 3-1 Is Wrong[edit]

I have received information that the description for Mission 3-1 is incorrect. DBM11085 has a FAQ at that says the objective for Mission 3-1 is "Destroy all 5 item boxes!" If someone could correct this article as soon as possible, that's be good. --User:Litnin200

Wow – no idea how that got there. Maybe it was right before and someone changed it. I'll re-look up the mission ASAP and fix it – thanks - Wa Yoshihead.png TC@Y 18:14, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
Looking at history, looks like I simply missed one initially in December 2006. Also, Litnin200, you're free to fix it. Wa Yoshihead.png TC@Y 18:16, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Picture in trivia section[edit]

Just a small question. The illustration of a emblem shown at the bottom of the screen appears to me not to be of Tamagon, but instead of Bub from the Bubble Bobble series of games. Just wondering if that caption needed to be changed. -Elias5891

Looks more like Bub to me, too. I vote change. YELLOWYOSHI398

Son of Suns added that fact. I'll ask him to recheck the image, and I'll remove it if necessary. Wa Yoshihead.png TC@Y 18:10, 22 April 2007 (EDT)


What are those items that look like balls with spikes all aroudn them, and when thrown, they grow very big? A picture of them is on the Stickers page, somewhere in there... Full Metal MoogleKirbyWalk.gif


I think that trivia section should be removed. These things like emblems and such are some of the major features in game, not trivia! --Super Mario Whatever 16:34, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

Should be merged with the main article, yes. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 16:46, 22 September 2007 (EDT)


There are two Luigi curcuits in the leaf and shell cups on the cups table. Could someone please change this because i am not sure about it. Marioface 03:21, 25 September 2007 (EDT)

One, speak more clearly next time. Two, one is the GCN version the other is the GBA version, apparently. My Bloody Valentine

M hm. Glitchy Missingno.jpeg SuperfiremarioGlitchy Missingno.jpeg 20:30, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

# Of Karts[edit]

Hey... don't you start out with TWO karts, not THREE? It says three in the article.--Waluigi FTW 19:10, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Yeah, you unlock the ability to choose among three karts. You start out with only two. e.g. Mario starts out with the B Dasher and Standard MR - J-Yoshi64 (talk)

Hey, If you get so far into the game, you can let the characters have 36 karts to choose from! Don't believe me? Follow the link!!!!! [1]


Can we?[edit]

can we say how to unlock people? It would really help people (like me!) PLEASE! Petey Piranha in Mario & Luigi: Partners in TimeGalacticPeteyPetey Piranha in Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time

Somebody could, but I can't, since I don't have the game. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

It already mentions the requirements right under the unlockable characters gallery.--Knife (talk) 04:14, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Something Interesting[edit]

Does anyone notice that when in Download Play the Shy Guy is the same color as the player's menu color? I'd like to add this to trivia. Should I add it, not add it all, or add it somewhere else in the article?

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This information is not true. I played several times with my sister on Mario Kart DS and Shy Guy changes color within each download play. My menu color is lime-green, yet I sometimes end up with a Black or Pink Shy Guy. BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C)

Yes. BabyLuigiOnFire is right . My brother's menu is blue, and he gets a lota different colours of Shy Guy. Glitchy Missingno.jpeg SuperfiremarioGlitchy Missingno.jpeg 20:29, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

Mission Level 7?[edit]

There isn't a "Level 7" in my game. Is it unlockable? If it is, how does one go about unlocking it? - J-Yoshi64 (Talk)

I think you have to get at least a star in every mission. BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C)
Well, that's never gonna happen! =P :( -J-Yoshi64

I would also like to know how to unlock mission 7, so I followed this


Why did you delete that? WikiofSmash 00:12, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

Reference to Paper Mario TTYD[edit]

Isn't the battle stage Twilight House a reference to Paper Mario TTYD's Twilight Town? The stage has a similar appearence to the area.

Sprite of Yoshi's stock icon from Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Tails777 Talk to me!Robin's stock icon from Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Mario Kart DS editing help[edit]

Hello? I am new to Super Mario Wiki and I am confused. I read the Introduction and Help but when I try to create Mario Kart DS glitches, I click 'here' in red letters, but I can't create the page! Can someone help me?
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The page was deleted because it was not how you do things. Also sign your comments with ~~~~ Dr.Wario ''Perverse-When things are upside-down and you start to like them that way.'' 19:11, 2 September 2011 (EDT)

If you press "talk" and if it says "create a page for Tails777", then you can make your own page on DS glitches. well, that's all i got!'

Redirection Inconsistency[edit]

"MK1" through "MK8" each redirects to a corresponding Mario Kart game, except for "MK5". Should it be added for consistency? Hippopo (talk) Sure, why not? Toadbrigade5 (talk) 23:21, 23 September 2014 (EDT)

Character bios in Japanese website[edit]

Could someone please translate the bios from the website below into English ? It also includes unlockable character bios.
Mario Kart DS Japanese website - Characters&Karts:
Infinite8 09:31, 29 September 2015 (EDT)

Mario Kart DS & Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection turned 10 years old today![edit]

Today's Saturday, November 14, 2015 and Mario Kart DS & Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection turned 10 years old today! However, I was thinking that maybe we should have MKDS or Nintendo WFC as a featured article or something along those lines. --Michael (talk) 00:27, 14 November 2015 (EST)

Stats from the guide[edit]

I have the NDS Pocket Guide, and it has a list of stats for the karts. I don't know how the stats listed on the wiki were approximated, but they generally match up, except that the guide (mostly) rounds to the nearest unit. However, it also lists a sixth stat: weight. I don't know if this is useful, but I can post the full list of stats if someone asks for them. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Delfino Square staff ghost?[edit]

The article says the Delfino Square staff ghost is 1:53:921, but I find it to be 1:54:601. Is there a different version or is this a mistake? Buge (talk) 00:36, 6 March 2016 (EST)

Standard Kart Pictures[edit]

The pictures for the karts Standard Bowser, Standard Dry Bones, Standard Donkey Kong, Standard Daisy, Standard Luigi, Standard Peach, Standard R.O.B., Standard Toad, Standard Waluigi, and Standard Yoshi need to be added in the Karts section. TheUnknown67 12:31, 9 July 2016 (EDT)

My sister had tried to get pictures for the Standard Karts, but the models didn't have any textures aside from Mario's kart. Mario (Santa)'s map icon from Mario Kart Tour Mario-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 18:13, 9 July 2016 (EDT)
yeah true. I could try ripping other Standard Kart textures with 3D Ripper DX. BabyLuigiFire.png Ray Trace(T|C) 18:32, 9 July 2016 (EDT)

Karts Section incomplete?[edit]

- It should mention that each of a character's three Karts will have a similar stat balance (i.e. their stats will be comparable) - It says Dry Bones has the best turning curve, but it's his Karts that have it (same with Drift and Weight, but not the other three stats) - "Acceleration: The time the kart's top speed is achieved when accelerating" is grammatically incorrect and slightly confusing - Potentially mention that all the standard karts share the same texture and model, and only change their color (perhaps also specify the color) - Point out that the Standard SG is effectively identical to the Standard YS, and is probably the exact same kart 04:32, 21 November 2017 (EST)

B Dasher in MKWii[edit]

Isn't the B Dasher in MKWII? if so should it be added? 09:55, 24 November 2017 (EST)

The B Dasher only appears in Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 8, and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, though the Sprinter is its successor and is referred to as the "B Dasher Mk 2" in some regions. --A sprite of a Flame Chomp from New Super Mario Bros. Wii.TheFlameChomp (talk) 10:13, 24 November 2017 (EST)

20 race tracks online only?[edit]

Which 12 racing tracks are excluded from online racing in Maro Kart DS? -- 11:06, 9 October 2018 (EDT)

They can be found on the course table. Those without the asterisk means they couldn't be raced online. – Owencrazyboy9 (talk) 11:42, 9 October 2018 (EDT)

Game crash observations[edit]

The game crashes if:

  • More than 4 fake item boxes (only reachable using cheats)
  • Multiple consecutive lightnings (also requires cheats)

-- 09:35, August 22, 2019 (EDT)

Kart stats in battle mode[edit]

After some tests in battle mode using two DSs, I have found the following:

  • Most (if not all because I don't have ROB yet) characters have a mini-turbo that lasts roughly half a second.
  • Some characters have better acceleration than others.
  • They might even have better handling in some cases but I'm not really sure.

I've also noted that there are some 'Unknown karts' in the In-Game Statistics section. I have a feeling they could be the stats used in battle mode because 1. They have 35 frames of mini-turbo (which is roughly half a second) 2. There's 13 of them. Possibly one for every playable character + shy guy.

That being said, I have no idea how to actually confirm this myself, so I was wondering if there's anyone on here who can. - The Evil Dr. Birdy (10/02/2020)

This would effectively explains what are those karts, that’s very interesting! In the tables of this page the drivers are in the same orders they have in the game data, so these Battle Mode karts will have the same driver order of these tables. Can you please make some additional checks using this information? Weight and Acceleration are the easiest to check (keep in mind the contribution of driver weight), so maybe start with those.—Mister Wu (talk) 06:47, February 10, 2020 (EST)

I think I got it: - The Evil Dr. Birdy

Well, thanks a lot! After all this time, those mysterious karts have finally been discovered!--Mister Wu (talk) 21:37, February 18, 2020 (EST)

Mario Kart Tour[edit]

Can we add a section on Mario Kart Tour to the "references in later games" section? --Jacklavin (talk) 11:32, May 23, 2020 (EDT)

Online Play[edit]

Online Play for MKDS is still possible, just not with WFC. Wiimmfi supports MKDS
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If it's not an official service, it's not within our coverage. Tosai "Fret" Furesawa Swallow Rindo Kanade

Beta courses and "Mario Kart Mega" ROM hack[edit]

In 2011, a ROM hack called "Mario Kart Mega" was created, which claims to reveal hidden beta courses. Surviving YouTube videos which feature it are "MKDS- deleted courses" from June 2011 and "mario kart mega nds" from June 2012. The latter shows the title screen, which mentions the name of User:Spyrosbiggestfan5678. Just sharing for anyone interested. Gordon E. (talk) 19:49, March 31, 2022 (EDT)

We don't cover unofficial hacks, and for future reference talk pages are not the place to share this. Tosai "Fret" Furesawa Swallow Rindo Kanade 19:53, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
I see, though the tracks themselves were allegedly created by Nintendo themselves. They are just hidden. Gordon E. (talk) 19:56, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
To be more precise: posting about unused content that is yet to be covered in talk pages is fine, even if it involves links to YouTube videos; however when it comes to unused courses I think we should rather rely on what was covered by The Cutting Room Floor, as it's a more reliable source.--Mister Wu (talk) 04:24, April 1, 2022 (EDT)

Shroom Ridge Reference to Giant Land[edit]

I'm pretty sure the hills and trees in the background of DS Shroom Ridge are based on Giant Land from the Super Mario All-Stars version of Super Mario Bros. 3. They may look like Super Mario Bros., but I've checked, and the trees still lean towards SMB3. What do you guys think about it? "TomAndTheCats (talk) 18:43, December 12, 2022 (EST)"