Talk:F.L.U.D.D.

From the Super Mario Wiki, the Mario encyclopedia
Jump to navigationJump to search

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the F.L.U.D.D. article. It is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. Comments such as "Mario is my favorite character" are not allowed and will be removed on sight. Please use the Mario Boards or our Discord server to talk about F.L.U.D.D..

If you do have a question or comment about the article, please remember to sign your edit with ~~~~.

Water Shooter[edit]

Is "Water Shooter" an official name for the Super Mario Galaxy F.L.U.D.D.s? If so, it should be split, and noted in the Trivia as a similar object to F.L.U.D.D., not listed here... - Cobold (talk · contribs) 12:46, 24 November 2007 (EST)

Yeah your right should we removed as soon as we can! Princess Butterfly 14:19, 24 November 2007 (EST)

FLUDD or F.L.U.D.D.[edit]

F.L.U.D.D. can be spelled either way. Alphaclaw11

Yes, but FLUDD is the name in Sunshine, and F.L.U.D.D. is the more recent name in Brawl. Each section should use the name as it was used in the game the section is about, and the general sections should use the more recent name. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 14:22, 24 November 2007 (EST)
I was saying there's no point in making FLUDD, F.L.U.D.D. Alphaclaw11
What? F.L.U.D.D. is the most recent name, it should be the article name. What's the problem? - Cobold (talk · contribs) 17:00, 24 November 2007 (EST)

Huh?[edit]

Is F.L.U.D.D. a Character or artifect? Petey Piranha in Mario & Luigi: Partners in TimeGalacticPeteyPetey Piranha in Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time

He's definitely not an artifact, but he is both an object and a character.--Knife (talk) 22:31, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

Detail needed...?[edit]

According to the appearances section F.L.U.D.D. appeared in Asterix & Obelix XXL 2: Mission Las Vegum as an enemy. If this is indeed true then there must be more detail in the article. FakeIco MCD.png MrConcreteDonkey 16:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

It was a cameo. Cameos are covered at Video game references. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
As it is not the actual F.L.U.D.D. (and Mario), but a parody, and Nintendo has nothing to do with the Asterix & Obelix game (aside from licensing the DS version), I don't think it is needed in the F.L.U.D.D. article.Asterix & Obelix XXL 2: Mission Las Vegum --Grandy02 19:05, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I for one agree. I was looking at F.L.U.D.D's page and noticed it said he was an enemy in Asterix & Obelix XXL 2: Mission Las Vegum and I want to learn more on that.

I'm positive who voiced it/him/her[edit]

I am 99% sure that Kit Harris voiced FLUDD in Super Mario Sunshine. If you look at the credits, only five people did voices for that game: Charles Martinet, Jen Taylor, Kit Harris, Scott Burns, and Dolores Rogers, along with Wes Monk as the Delfino Police, Kazumi Totaka as Yoshi, and (supposedly) Deanna Mustard as the Pianta Judge. Of the five credited, only Kit Harris doesn't have an article, but by her profile on IMDb, she also did a voice in Mario Superstar Baseball! (FLUDD wasn't in that game, though.)

Thus, I conclude that FLUDD was voiced by Kit Harris. Her performance still is so androgynous that I tend to call FLUDD an "it". I also suspect that, like in Luigi's Mansion, Charles Martinet did all of the male character voices. He did all of the male ghosts (Jen Taylor did all the female ghosts, by this logic), and in this game (Super Mario Sunshine), he does most if not all of the male Piantas and Nokis, including the Pianta Attorney. Does this sound plausible? Dogman15 06:43, 10 January 2011 (EST)

Nozzles ain't working[edit]

I have a copy of SMS, and I have unlocked all of the nozzles in every level I have (I got 36 shine sprites) but the rocket and turbo nozzles won't work. Turbo nozzle just makes Mario run forward and Rocket Nozzle just makes Mario stand still. Is there something I'm doing wrong or is my game stuffed up? SKmaric (talk)

It's probally a lag or something. Clean your GameCube disk, clean the memory cards and everything. Then try to find a way to use it, or just "read the enclosed instructions book". --Mario Fan 123 - Mario's craazy fan! Artwork of Mario in his classic victory pose, from Super Mario 64. 06:07, 19 February 2011 (EST)
Actually, it was my controller. I have a GameCube controller that looks like a Wii Classic Controller, so the R button doesn't push as far as it should. I got a normal Gamecube controller. Problem solved! SKmaric (talk)

Spinning[edit]

The spinning attack shouldn't be in the trivia. I'll change it later if nobody does it. -aya-Q6 - 16 décembre 2012

German name[edit]

"08/17" is not a direct pun towards "08/15" but instead a reference to "08/16" in the German name of Poltergust 3000, referring to that F.L.U.D.D. is E.Gadd's next invention after it, which is also some evidence to the thesis of the two backpack items being Mario/Luigi counterparts of each other. (Sorry for the long sentence!)

Split the Hover, Turbo, and Rocket Nozzles[edit]

Brown Block This talk page proposal has already been settled. Please do not edit this section or its subsections. If you wish to discuss the article, please do so in a new section below the proposal.

split 7-0
In Super Mario Sunshine, these three "power up" Nozzles are treated as basically equivalent to the three power up caps in Super Mario 64. The main difference is that you get the first one as a freebie, these appear mutually exclusive unlike the mixable ones from 64, and these ones last until replaced by another - sound familiar? They all follow a theme per game, come from specially colored boxes that at first appear transparent, prompt a save upon being "officially" unlocked, and are treated as distinct obtainable items that grant the power up. Contrast with the Squirt Nozzle, which along with being the absolute default, is also never replaced and is treated as a core part of F.L.U.D.D.'s being - though it may be split later.

Proposer: Doc von Schmeltwick (talk)
Deadline: December 21, 2023, 23:59 (UTC)

Support[edit]

  1. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) - Per
  2. Pseudo (talk) Most definitely — I’m quite surprised this wasn’t done a long time ago. Each one of these is very much a powerup in its own right. Frankly I’d be in support of splitting the Squirt Nozzle too, though it’s more of a gray area since it’s always equipped and is essentially the default, but the game largely does treat it the same as other nozzles in terms of UI presence and so forth.
  3. FanOfYoshi (talk) Per proposal. Why haven't we split them years ago?!
  4. MegaBowser64 (talk) per owl
  5. Mario (talk) I like this idea!
  6. Mister Wu (talk) Agreed, they are the Super Mario Sunshine equivalent of the powerups of the other games, even the Japanese official Mario history site lists them in the "POWER UP" section
  7. ThePowerPlayer (talk) These are clearly power-ups. How are they not already split?

Oppose[edit]

Comments[edit]

The Squirt Nozzle is included in that "POWER UP" section too, though... Blinker (talk) 08:04, December 10, 2023 (EST)

FLUDD[edit]

So I own this Super Mario 3D All Stars game and the box in European Spanish and European Portuguese. In the back of the box, there’s a section talking about Mario Sunshine, and it says “FLUDD” in Portuguese. So can I just upload a photo of it and write FLUDD in names in other languages and use the photo as a reference? I’m not that sure I should do that… — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Weegie baby (talk).

Of course; a lot of the wiki's info has cited images as sources. Marie costume pose in Super Mario Maker Mario JC 10:59, October 28, 2024 (EDT)
Alright, thanks! Weegie baby (talk)

Move to "FLUDD"?[edit]

Prize Block from Super Mario World This talk page or section has a conflict or question that must be answered. Please try to help and resolve the issue by leaving a comment.

I've been thinking about changing the title of this article to "FLUDD", without periods between the initials. The first reason is simple—this is technically its most recent in-game name per Super Mario 3D All-Stars. And I'm not talking about the included reissue of Super Mario Sunshine with a mostly unaltered script that naturally retains FLUDD's original spelling; I'm talking about the new description of Sunshine created for 3D All-Stars that uses this spelling. While a social media post made after the release of 3D All-Stars does use the spelling "F.L.U.D.D.", social media and other supplementary materials are lower priority than in-game material per MarioWiki:Article naming.

The second, while speculative, is concerning: the spellling "F.L.U.D.D." may be a product of circular reporting. This spelling of its name originated in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, which contains factual errors in its trophy descriptions (e.g. "[King K. Rool's] brother, Kaptain K. Rool") and at least one other non-standard spelling of a character's name in the American English and British English scripts: "Mister L" instead of Mr. L. Because this wiki had used this spelling of F.L.U.D.D.'s name for the vast majority of this article's existence, it presumably ended up influencing how it was spelled in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U, WarioWare Gold, and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. Circular reporting from this wiki has happened multiple times before—see "Rudy the Clown", "Ghosts", or the Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia for other examples.

But what you do think? Are my concerns valid, or am I overthinking things? — Light-blue Yoshi from Mario Kart Tour SolemnStormcloud (talk) 14:56, October 12, 2026 (UTC)

The "FLUDD" name seems to still be in use, especially within the context of Super Mario Sunshine; the Super Mario 3D All-Stars US website and the Nintendo Classics trailer (and an associated article on the website) use "FLUDD", so the description is an outlier in this respect. Additionally, the article was moved from "FLUDD" to "F.L.U.D.D." specifically because of the new name in Brawl. Adding periods after each letter doesn't feel like an "error", and even if it is, it's far less egregious than the ones listed. For all intents and purposes, it seems like the names are interchangeable. — KamekSans (talk)
I've recently noticed we have another subject with a similar naming history to FLUDD—and this one without any crossover games or circular reporting to complicate matters: The Mini-Marios. Their name was spelled with a hyphen between the two words in the original Mario vs. Donkey Kong, but Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis changed the spelling to "Mini Mario" with a space instead. Later appearances of Mini Marios used the the spaced spelling until the Nintendo Switch remake of Mario vs. Donkey Kong reverted back to the hyphened spelling—and the wiki followed suit in this case. Moving this article to "FLUDD" would be consistent with our treatment of the Mini-Marios. — Light-blue Yoshi from Mario Kart Tour SolemnStormcloud (talk) 18:39, October 24, 2026 (UTC)


Pump is different from F.L.U.D.D.![edit]

So some people think that Pump should be the same as F.L.U.D.D., but they are still different things. Sure, they are similar in looks and actions, but they are still different; it's just like Super Mushrooms and 1-Up Mushrooms- they look and act nearly identical, but are diverse items. Technically, they are the same type of items, but not exact replicas- see for yourself, they even have different pages. This is arguable, but I'll leave you off with this: Pump and F.L.U.D.D are different things. GamerBoy (talk) 00:33, October 31, 2026 (UTC)

...I'm assuming this is about the merge tag which is currently present on the page. You should have brought this up on Talk:Pump, rather than here, as that is where the discussion is actually being held.
Nonetheless, your "counterargument" doesn't really seem to accomplish much of anything. It just sort of runs around in circles without properly addressing the problem.
  • None of your points address the actual reasons why the merge was suggested in the first place. Did you even read the original discussion before trying to argue against it?
  • The Super Mushroom/1-Up Mushroom comparison is essentially an apples-to-oranges comparison. Those subjects are not even remotely comparable to this situation.
  • Your claim that they are "diverse items" is also similarly faulty. You do not explain what makes them "diverse items", other than saying "Technically, they are the same type of items, but not exact replicas- see for yourself, they even have different pages.", which kind of ignores the point. You even note, (in that same sentence, no less!) that they "look and act nearly identical". (Which is also not entirely true.)
If you are truly serious about opposing the merge, you may want to improve your writing and do some further research, because the logical fallacies and structural errors in your initial comment are kind of deflating your own argument. Wandering Poplin (talk) 01:17, October 31, 2026 (UTC)