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Hold on,hold on. Ukikis first appeared in SMW2:Yoshi's Island![[User:Xterra1|<font color="gold">Xterra</font>]][[User talk:Xterra1|<font color="red">1(talk)</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|<font color="blue">(work)</font>]][[Special:Random|<font color="green">(?)</font>]] 18:23, 10 August 2007 (EDT)
Hold on,hold on. Ukikis first appeared in SMW2:Yoshi's Island![[User:Xterra1|<font color="gold">Xterra</font>]][[User talk:Xterra1|<font color="red">1(talk)</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Xterra1|<font color="blue">(work)</font>]][[Special:Random|<font color="green">(?)</font>]] 18:23, 10 August 2007 (EDT)


:[[Grinder]]. 'Nuff said. http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]''' http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9276/papertoycf7.gif
:[[Grinder]]. 'Nuff said. '''[[User:Paper Jorge|Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!]]'''


This seems like a case of an enemy with two different names. Merge? {{User:Peachycakes 3.14/sig}} 10:37, 11 September 2007 (EDT) Don't flame me.
This seems like a case of an enemy with two different names. Merge? {{User:Peachycakes 3.14/sig}} 10:37, 11 September 2007 (EDT) Don't flame me.


:No. Just because they are both monkeys does not mean they are the same enemy, especially since they have such different behavior. Also Ukiki is another one of those characters turned species like Yoshi and Toad. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]
:No. Just because they are both monkeys does not mean they are the same enemy, especially since they have such different behavior. Also Ukiki is another one of those characters turned species like Yoshi and Toad. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]


Actually it's more like a species turned charecter. They do look very simmiler. {{User:Peachycakes 3.14/sig}} 17:01, 12 September 2007 (EDT) Don't flame me.
Actually it's more like a species turned charecter. They do look very simmiler. {{User:Peachycakes 3.14/sig}} 17:01, 12 September 2007 (EDT) Don't flame me.
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== Kiki the Monkey ==
== Kiki the Monkey ==
{{talk}}
For those who do not know, Kiki the Monkey is a character from The Legend of Zelda series who help Link out in his quest, notably in A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening. In ALttP, Kiki asks for rupees (the Hyrulian currency) to follow Link and, later, to open a gate to a dungeon. In LA, Kiki is involved in a side quest requiring an item to create a bridge.
 
For those who do not know, Kiki the Monkey is a character from The Legend of Zelda series who help Link out in his quest, notably in A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening. In ALttP, Kiki asks for rupees (the Hyrulian currency) to follow Link and, later, to open a gate to a dungeon. In LA, Kiki is involved in a side quest requiring an item to create a bridge.


Is it a coincidence that the names Ukiki and Kiki are similar, or is there a connection between the two, specifically in their origin of their respective in-game creations?
Is it a coincidence that the names Ukiki and Kiki are similar, or is there a connection between the two, specifically in their origin of their respective in-game creations?
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:I don't know if there is any connection, but I do think this info would make for really interesting trivia. [[User:Culex|Culex]] 17:17, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
:I don't know if there is any connection, but I do think this info would make for really interesting trivia. [[User:Culex|Culex]] 17:17, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
::This is an old discussion, but actually since "kiki" is Japanese onomatopoeia for a monkey's screech (as in "kee kee!") it's probably just a coincidence. There's also an enemy called Monkikki in Donkey Kong on the Game Boy. [[User:Fizzle|Fizzle]] ([[User talk:Fizzle|talk]]) 17:00, 28 January 2014 (EST)
== Merge Seedy Sally and Short Fuse with Ukiki ==
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{{ProposalOutcome|passed|4-0|merge}}
How are these seperate enemies? They haven't been considered different in North America since [http://www.mariowiki.com/images/6/65/SMW2_Guide_128.jpg that Nintendo Power guide] (the same one that misnamed Spikes as "Mace Penguins", renamed Cheep Cheeps to "Flopsy Fish", and [http://www.mariowiki.com/images/6/65/SMW2_Guide_126.jpg listed Boo Balloons twice]), were ''never'' considered different in other regions, and have no real differences other than using objects, [[Talk:Potted Spiked Fun Guy|which isn't always a major difference]]. And considering that watermelon-using Ukikis aren't considered different, it wouldn't be too hard to just say Ukikis can use objects in their surroundings.
'''Proposer''': {{User|Niiue}}<br>
'''Deadline''': January 11, 2016, 23:59 GMT
===Support===
#{{User|Niiue}} Per proposal.
#{{User|SmokedChili}} Yeah, the two variants listed on the official guide seem to be made up; if not, then they are obsolete as per recent games. Per proposal.
#{{User|Banon}} They're really the same enemies. The short fuse article even uses Ukiki artwork.
#{{User|Cdaveedski}} Apparently not acknowledged in Woolly World's enemy list like everything else, so the split is simply an fake.
===Oppose===
===Comments===
Links to relevant articles: [[Seedy Sally]], [[Short Fuse]], [[Ukiki]].
What should we do with the names " Seedy Sally" and "Short Fuse"? We can't exactly say those are Ukiki's previous names.
{{User:Banon/sig}} 08:44, 29 December 2015 (EST)
:Probably something to the effect of "Some Ukikis drop bombs on Yoshi, and were named as '''Short Fuses''' in the Nintendo Power player's guide. Others drop Needlenoses, and were named as '''Seedy Sallys'''.". [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 01:00, 30 December 2015 (EST)
== Diddy Kong's voice ==
In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'', it sounds like [[Diddy Kong]]'s voice borrows some of Ukiki's sound clips from ''[[Super Mario 64]]''. I got this from [[smashwiki:Diddy Kong (SSBB)|Diddy Kong's ''SSBB'' page]] on the [http://ssbwiki.com SmashWiki] site. Could this be the case, or could that site be false? [[User:Torey|Torey]] ([[User talk:Torey|talk]]) 21:44, 26 January 2018 (EST)
:They don't provide a source of any kind, so more research would be preferred. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:47, 26 January 2018 (EST)
::I'm pretty sure they're mostly stock cartoon "monkey noise" sound effects... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:49, 27 January 2018 (EST)
== proposal ==
Shouldn't Seedy Sallies have their own page, and be listed as a derived species of ukiki? [[User:MarioLover54|MarioLover54]] 12:48 PM (EST) July 10, 2019
:[[#Merge Seedy Sally and Short Fuse with Ukiki|See above.]] [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 13:04, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
==Pronunciation==
What is the correct pronunciation for "Ukiki"? The repeated use of "'''an''' Ukiki" throughout the article suggests that the "u" is read like in "umbrella" or something similar, but I always read the name as "you-kiki", in which case "'''a''' Ukiki" would be used instead. {{User:Bye Guy/Sig}} 10:38, December 28, 2019 (EST)
:Or is it like Oo? Probably what i suggested, since it's based off of the Japanese name. Nintendo of America staff know. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:12, December 28, 2019 (EST)
::Yeah I always read it as "OO-key-key." [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:30, December 28, 2019 (EST)
:::Same. I pronounce it as Ukikē. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:18, December 29, 2019 (EST)

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Hold on,hold on. Ukikis first appeared in SMW2:Yoshi's Island!Xterra1(talk)(work)(?) 18:23, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

Grinder. 'Nuff said. Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back!

This seems like a case of an enemy with two different names. Merge? Sprite of Rex from Super Mario WorldPeachycakes 3.14 10:37, 11 September 2007 (EDT) Don't flame me.

No. Just because they are both monkeys does not mean they are the same enemy, especially since they have such different behavior. Also Ukiki is another one of those characters turned species like Yoshi and Toad. -- Son of Suns

Actually it's more like a species turned charecter. They do look very simmiler. Sprite of Rex from Super Mario WorldPeachycakes 3.14 17:01, 12 September 2007 (EDT) Don't flame me.

The article says, "A Ukiki King is also a boss in Super Mario 64 DS. Upon defeating it, Wario would get the key to unlock Birdo." LOL WUT!? Is that true?
The preceding unsigned comment was added by ShadowRaptor101 (talk).

Never, thanks for pointing that out. --Grandy02 17:59, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

Kiki the Monkey[edit]

For those who do not know, Kiki the Monkey is a character from The Legend of Zelda series who help Link out in his quest, notably in A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening. In ALttP, Kiki asks for rupees (the Hyrulian currency) to follow Link and, later, to open a gate to a dungeon. In LA, Kiki is involved in a side quest requiring an item to create a bridge.

Is it a coincidence that the names Ukiki and Kiki are similar, or is there a connection between the two, specifically in their origin of their respective in-game creations?

DaDoc540 21:18, 29 December 2009 (EST)

I don't know if there is any connection, but I do think this info would make for really interesting trivia. Culex 17:17, 13 April 2010 (EDT)
This is an old discussion, but actually since "kiki" is Japanese onomatopoeia for a monkey's screech (as in "kee kee!") it's probably just a coincidence. There's also an enemy called Monkikki in Donkey Kong on the Game Boy. Fizzle (talk) 17:00, 28 January 2014 (EST)

Merge Seedy Sally and Short Fuse with Ukiki[edit]

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merge 4-0

How are these seperate enemies? They haven't been considered different in North America since that Nintendo Power guide (the same one that misnamed Spikes as "Mace Penguins", renamed Cheep Cheeps to "Flopsy Fish", and listed Boo Balloons twice), were never considered different in other regions, and have no real differences other than using objects, which isn't always a major difference. And considering that watermelon-using Ukikis aren't considered different, it wouldn't be too hard to just say Ukikis can use objects in their surroundings.

Proposer: Niiue (talk)
Deadline: January 11, 2016, 23:59 GMT

Support[edit]

  1. Niiue (talk) Per proposal.
  2. SmokedChili (talk) Yeah, the two variants listed on the official guide seem to be made up; if not, then they are obsolete as per recent games. Per proposal.
  3. Banon (talk) They're really the same enemies. The short fuse article even uses Ukiki artwork.
  4. Cdaveedski (talk) Apparently not acknowledged in Woolly World's enemy list like everything else, so the split is simply an fake.

Oppose[edit]

Comments[edit]

Links to relevant articles: Seedy Sally, Short Fuse, Ukiki.

What should we do with the names " Seedy Sally" and "Short Fuse"? We can't exactly say those are Ukiki's previous names.


Banon (talk · edits) 08:44, 29 December 2015 (EST)

Probably something to the effect of "Some Ukikis drop bombs on Yoshi, and were named as Short Fuses in the Nintendo Power player's guide. Others drop Needlenoses, and were named as Seedy Sallys.". Niiue (talk) 01:00, 30 December 2015 (EST)

Diddy Kong's voice[edit]

In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, it sounds like Diddy Kong's voice borrows some of Ukiki's sound clips from Super Mario 64. I got this from Diddy Kong's SSBB page on the SmashWiki site. Could this be the case, or could that site be false? Torey (talk) 21:44, 26 January 2018 (EST)

They don't provide a source of any kind, so more research would be preferred. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 21:47, 26 January 2018 (EST)
I'm pretty sure they're mostly stock cartoon "monkey noise" sound effects... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:49, 27 January 2018 (EST)


proposal[edit]

Shouldn't Seedy Sallies have their own page, and be listed as a derived species of ukiki? MarioLover54 12:48 PM (EST) July 10, 2019

See above. LinkTheLefty (talk) 13:04, July 10, 2019 (EDT)

Pronunciation[edit]

What is the correct pronunciation for "Ukiki"? The repeated use of "an Ukiki" throughout the article suggests that the "u" is read like in "umbrella" or something similar, but I always read the name as "you-kiki", in which case "a Ukiki" would be used instead. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 10:38, December 28, 2019 (EST)

Or is it like Oo? Probably what i suggested, since it's based off of the Japanese name. Nintendo of America staff know. --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 12:12, December 28, 2019 (EST)
Yeah I always read it as "OO-key-key." Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:30, December 28, 2019 (EST)
Same. I pronounce it as Ukikē. --Green Yoshi FanOfYoshi 12:18, December 29, 2019 (EST)