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These are clearly the same basic thing, even if they aren't intended to be a reference to the ones of DKC or SMG2, which are both listed as being the same as each other. It's just silly to have them as separate, they are large non-sentient stone wheels intended to crush, and even look basically the same. Is "Roller" even an official name? It's not cited.
- Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Per proposal
- Baby Luigi (talk) Per proposal.
- TheFlameChomp (talk) Per proposal.
- Niiue (talk) Per proposal.
- Yoshi the SSM (talk) Per all.
- Alex95 (talk) Per proposal.
- LuigiMaster123 (talk) Per proposal.
- Wildgoosespeeder (talk) Roller is considered conjectural compared to Millstone. They function roughly the same. Super Mario Wiki tends to use conjecture sparingly and only when necessary. Is millstone the official name for this obstacle?
Per the Prima guide, "Roller" is an official name for the obstacles. I also don't necessary agree with the notion that two different subjects should be merged together just because they have similar mechanics. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 18:59, 28 July 2017 (EDT)
- Well, that should be cited then. 19:02, 28 July 2017 (EDT)
- They're both stone wheels that crush found in ruinous locations, and are based upon large stone wheels for grinding grain from real life. If the Clockwork Ruins ones were differentiated, there'd be a bit more of an argument for these to be separate as well, but they're the same general thing, and unlike other general things like Butterflies, Birds, and Frogs, these have a consistent gameplay purpose, with the only difference being whether or not a beaver is using them to charge, or if they can be wall-jumped up, which is similar to differences displayed by Thwomps. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:03, 28 July 2017 (CT)
- E-guide? That's not PRIMA, I don't think. Is it? (For everyone else, he claims he found the name in the E-Guide for the (blech) DX Remake.) Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:53, 31 July 2017 (CT)