Talk:Pom Pom

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Yo, just to point this out, but Pun pun means Share Share. Mirai Moon

It means "intense smell" in Japanese. PikaSamus (talk)

Poom Poom makes more "sense" to me. But that sounds nasty, it doesn't sound female for the character.--Prince Ludwig 11:05, 27 October 2011 (EDT)
So...? PikaSamus (talk)
Sounds so genderless to me. It just makes me feel that way. I expect the US to have a different name than Poom Poom, but it seems that she will be called Poom Poom in US.--Prince Ludwig 11:21, 27 October 2011 (EDT)

And why would a Character, a female one especially,be called "intense smell"?,also if i remember correctlly somtimes Nintendo's Japanese names for characters mean somthing completely different,and when translating into english or other languages the character obtains a totally new name. Donaldthescotishtwin

I don't know... PikaSamus (talk)

I think that Poom Poom would make sense because Boom Boom's Japanese name is bunbun so it would be like this

JPN:Bunbun US:Boom Boom

JPN:Punpun US: Poom Poom

--Superluigirules 19:29, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

Her name might be Boom Boom too.[edit]

We got the Japanese name Punpun, but now that the western sites are out, she and Boom Boom are under the same label called "Boom Boom", so, should we wait the actual name (which might come within a game guide), or change the title to Boom Boom (female) or something like that?

--Byllant 14:53, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

Wait I say, Donaldthescotishtwin

Tis just an error
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Speaking of Names...[edit]

I just noticed that "Punpun" is similar to "Bunbun" which is Boom Boom's Japanese name. Should this trivial info be added? aaaaaaaa Mariomario64! 16:37, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

Don't think so. I think that was the point in the character's creation (to give Boom Boom a female counterpart). Mario4Ever
True. It could be added, though, if anyone else thinks it's relevant. aaaaaaaa Mariomario64! 09:41, 3 November 2011 (EDT)
Isn't there a Homestar Runner character named Pom Pom? SMW2yoshi.gif Super Chris HelperMario.png 18:33, 4 November 2011 (CDT)
Yes, there is. He's the balloon-like one who talks in bubbles. Magikrazy51 (talk) P.S that isn't a reference, though.
The japan one is called punpun because it is a female version, and p sounds more feminine.
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Pom Pom?[edit]

Why Pom Pom? Is there an official source that confirms her name as "Pom Pom"? User:MarioMaster720

I believe it's the English website, although it'd be nice if the person that had moved her here had cited their sources in the article itself, so we could avoid confusion... Bop1996 (Talk)

Never mind. The official Website confirms that her name is actually Pom Pom ;) User:MarioMaster720

Wrong! Offical english manual sated that it is Pun pun, not pom pom!!! Someone, please change it!!! --Sinanco 12:50, 11 November 2011 (EST)

What Manuel and yes the website calls her Pom Pom Raven Effect (talk)
just an error I think.
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Remove relationship section?[edit]

"Pom-Pom is the female version of another Mario mid-boss and they sometimes appear together."

With the word cruft removed, that's the whole section. They don't have any dialogue or physical interraction that would make writing about an implied relationship worthwhile. Even by the crass standards of the relationship sections, this one is ridiculously worthless. Any opposition to removing it (and the similar section on the Boom Boom page)? --Glowsquid 20:33, 31 January 2012 (EST)

I support since this is just making a section to state the obvious, and we tend to remove such sections. Bop1996 (Talk)

Trick[edit]

In the third fight, with the Donut Blocks, is it possible to trick her when she's in her shell into falling out of the arena, by making Donut Blocks fall where she's about to land?
Ultimate Mr L sig.png Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 12:05, 21 November 2016 (EST)

I think the game takes that into account and she either jumps it or lands in a different spot. Go ahead and test it out, though. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 12:09, 21 November 2016 (EST)
I don't have the game. It's on my userpage because I've played it, not because I own it.
Ultimate Mr L sig.png Ultimate Mr. L (Talk-Contribs-Stats) 12:54, 21 November 2016 (EST)
Then I will see what I can find. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 13:10, 21 November 2016 (EST)
I have the game too. I can see what I can find too. Yoshissm-animated walk.gif Yoshi the SSM (talk) 13:15, 21 November 2016 (EST)
From my test, she didn't even go above the donut blocks while in her shell form. Yoshissm-animated walk.gif Yoshi the SSM (talk) 13:46, 21 November 2016 (EST)

Species[edit]

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We seem to be particularly selective about a mishmash of sources regarding Pom Pom as a single entity, possibly as part of the justification for the Boom Boom article split. While only one Pom Pom is onscreen the vast majority of the time (like Boom Boom especially was in Super Mario 3D Land and Super Mario 3D World), Nintendo of Europe treats them both in the plural sense rather than the singular sense like Nintendo of America, and my overall impression of the divergent localization is that Nintendo of Europe had more direct translations at the time compared to Nintendo of America; for example, referring to the Koopalings as "Bowser's minions" when Japanese sources were calling them Kuppa no Teshita, and the European version of Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon for Nintendo DS taking less liberties with names like Shiida (Caeda) and Akaneia (Archanea), etc. We do have a specific description from a Japanese website that apparently translates to "The Koopa army's lone female." However, in Super Mario Maker 2, there is an official course in Story Mode called "Target: A Single Pom Pom" with a description implying more than one Pom Pom (and the Japanese version is similar), so now I'm wondering if the line in question was supposed to be read as "The Koopa army's lone females." (referring to Pom Poms in general). Mind, Super Mario Maker 2 did not have to suggest this at all - after all, they could have just referred to it as "Pom Pom" since only one showed up in the level and there wouldn't be any problem - but the fact that both the English and Japanese versions have an in-game reference to a Pom Pom means that we must readdress this issue carefully. LinkTheLefty (talk) 14:10, July 8, 2019 (EDT)

Given this is a game where we can have 3 Bowsers at once I wouldn't put too much stock in it. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 15:34, July 8, 2019 (EDT)
As far as I can tell, Story Mode doesn't refer to the player's ability to place multiple Bowsers in custom courses (seen here), and the main issue with the current implementation is that we're amalgamating old regional wording rather than utilizing one official interpretation (as in, we're currently saying that it's both a character and a species, except they really meant that Pom Pom is part of the Boom Boom species - which, in the presence of this new info, seems unlikely). LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:40, July 8, 2019 (EDT)
I'll also add that, while Boom Boom and Pom Pom recently appear as assistants in Dr. Mario World, all of the other assistants are regular enemy species, so they're clearly being grouped as such. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:24, July 11, 2019 (EDT)