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The article title is conjectural but is formatted like a pseudo-official name whereas conjectural names should be more descriptive. "Barrel Guy" is inaccurate as a descriptive name (Shy Guys are not called just "Guys") and tries to sound official while it shouldn't. A name like "Barrel Shy Guy" or "Barrel lid Shy Guy" would be better and sound less fan-namey. Jdtendo^(T|C) 02:52, December 5, 2025 (EST)

Look at this: "simple yet accurate title". Shy Guy variants are commonly called by a small descriptor of their characteristic + Guy. For example, there you have Mace Guy, Shield Guy, Anti Guy, Petal Guy and Mega Guy. The conjectural name Barrel Guy is adapted from the name commonly used for Shy Guy variants, while also simply explaining its characteristic, which is carrying BARREL lids. Sorbetti (talk) 09:35, December 5, 2025 (EST)

Not always the case. This is like Piranha Plant variants, where some only have the "Piranha" part (Putrid Piranha, Frost Piranha), but others carry the full name (Fire Piranha Plant, Bone Piranha Plant). rend (talk) (edits) 11:30, December 5, 2025 (EST)

That's true, but I think there are more variants here that use only Guy in their name. I didn't want to list them all, but I think I'll have to make a comparison table. Sorbetti (talk) 13:34, December 5, 2025 (EST)

In total, based on a research and a bit of help in Excel, 17 Shy Guy variants use "Shy Guy" in their name, while 43 Shy Guy variants use "Guy" in their name. 17 + 43 = 60, so that's 60 Shy Guys in total. From that, I calculated the percentages: 28% of Shy Guy variants use "Shy Guy," and 72% use only "Guy." That's a 44% difference, so I think Barrel Guy is a more suitable name than Barrel Shy Guy. I was forgetting how useful Excel is for these things. Sorbetti (talk) 14:36, December 5, 2025 (EST)

I still think it ought to be "Barrel Shy Guy" if anything. There are other Guys besides Shy Guys, so what's to be gained from using a less descriptive name? This also applies to some other derived names I've seen lately - as far as I'm concerned, if it's "x Heihō" instead of "x-hō", it should be "x Shy Guy", not "x Guy". LinkTheLefty (talk) 09:11, December 26, 2025 (EST)

I still don't get why this should be considered a distinct variant with its own page rather than just a normal Shy Guy holding a barrel lid. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 08:12, December 5, 2025 (EST)

This is how most Shy Guy variants work; they're Shy Guys that hold something, and that changes their behavior. What this page is missing is a name, which can be extracted from the internal names. That way, it will have its own name, just like some Shy Guy variants in Yoshi's Crafted World. Sorbetti (talk) 09:22, December 5, 2025 (EST)

I agree with Sorbetti. Should we merge Clip Guys and Paint Guys with the Shy Guy article just because they hold something? PrincessPeachFan (talk) 07:01, December 6, 2025 (EST)

no, because those are recognized as a distinct variant by the game itself. — eviemaybe (talk / contributions) 09:14, December 6, 2025 (EST)