User talk:Yoshi18/Archive 2

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Notes to trivia

Please stop changing those headers, it was decided from this proposal. Nightwicked Bowser 19:16, March 21, 2025 (EDT)

Ahh ok, I understand Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 17:14, March 24, 2025 (EDT)

Overview

Just letting you know, the minigame sections being titled "Overview" is enforced by a proposal. Super Mario RPG (talk) 13:46, March 22, 2025 (EDT)

Ok but, then why isn’t it on all other minigame pages and only in Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 13:48, March 22, 2025 (EDT)

Because the proposal takes a lot of work to enforce. Super Mario RPG (talk) 13:50, March 22, 2025 (EDT)

Fair enough, then lemme help you change it on every page. Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 13:53, March 22, 2025 (CET)

Also, just a request but how about we have the overview but do the Introduction, Gameplay and Ending in sub-chapters? Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 13:57, March 22, 2025 (EDT)

No, the proposal stated to merge it all into a single section. Super Mario RPG (talk) 14:03, March 22, 2025 (EDT)

Ah, ok. I’m already busy changing everything now. Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 14:37, March 22, 2025 (CET)

One more question: can’t Test for the Best be a sub-chapter? I mean, it fits a bit more in my opinion and it isn’t really part of the standard gameplay and it also isn’t in the proposal that it needs to be merged. I mean we don’t we need an exclusive chapter for it, but I think a exclusive sub-chapter would be nice. Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 09:30, March 24, 2025 (CET)

RE: Similar minigames

Those are for two different purposes. "See also" is for users wanting to look at related or similar things; the navbox template is a collection of links for users to navigate to other minigames easily. Mario JC 11:07, March 24, 2025 (EDT)

So, does that mean I can put Snipe for the Picking in Surf's Way Up's "See also" tab? Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 16:09, March 24, 2025 (CET)

Those aren't even that similar to begin with. Only that they involve earning set amounts of points. Mario JC 11:12, March 24, 2025 (EDT)

Userspace edits

Dear Yoshi18, It has come to our attention that you are currently in violation of the userspace policy. Please review the policy and abide by it, or else a warning will be issued. Thank you for your cooperation.

Hi! I know you're having fun updating your userspace and getting a signature, but you've been making lots of tiny changes over the course of many edits. This floods the "Recent changes" and makes it harder to see other edits. To see what an edit looks like before submitting it, click/tap the "Show preview" button. This will allow you to see what the page looks like as well as any errors that may be present.

On the subject of userspace, I understand they are fun to create and design, but also be sure to prioritize mainspace article edits. This is the Mario Wiki after all! Thank you! Sparks (talk) 18:01, March 24, 2025 (EDT)

Yeah, I noticed it too. Sorry! When I finally noticed it I already made too many edits. But thanks for informing me, I'll pay more attention next time! Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 19:00, March 24, 2025 (EDT)

Regional spelling

I noticed you wrote on your userpage that you'll try to write in British/Australian grammar on this wiki, and I'm gonna have to ask you not to do that because this wiki prioritises American grammar. Nightwicked Bowser 17:45, April 12, 2025 (EDT)

I actually meant that I would do it on my user page. Should’ve been more clear about that. Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 18:15, April 12, 2025 (EDT)

Welcoming users

Hiya! According MarioWiki:Welcoming users, we don't use the Welcome template anymore. Hasn't been used since 2017 I believe. I appreciate your efforts in making users feel welcome, but in the future you can welcome them in your first talk page message sent to them, so that you can let them know about something and to greet them at the same time! Sparks (talk) 15:06, April 15, 2025 (EDT)

Ooooh, thanks for letting me know! Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 15:07, April 15, 2025 (EDT)

2,000th edit

I just reached my 2,000th edit on this wiki and I think that should be celebrated! Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 19:11, April 17, 2025 (EDT)

User pages

Please don't edit other user pages without the user's permission, even if it's just to correct grammar. Technetium (talk) 17:25, April 21, 2025 (EDT)

I understand. Thanks! Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 10:20, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

2,500th edit

It's kinda crazy how I already did 500 more edits in just a span of 10 days, but I guess I did it! I'm now 1/4 on the way to 10,000 edits! Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 17:35, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

On the Papa Mario/Mama Mario redirect

There was a convo over on the Discord, and we felt rude about the idea of just leaving you in the dark about this especially after we fat-fingered "undo" and hit "thanks" oh Goodness we're sorry ;A;, so to give a recap of the conversation for you, just so you're not entirely in the dark about things: the names "Papa Mario" and "Mama Mario" are not, in fact, made-up, they come from Nintendo Magazine System (AU), Issue #30, page 10. (Not to be confused with the UK version, mind you; that version had a very different Issue 30.) Given they are both official names for the characters, the fact that redirects are permitted unless they are either bordering on useless ("Ahehehauhe") or outright incorrect ("God Slayer Bowser"), and the lack of statements in the proposal itself suggesting the redirects had to go, the Mama Mario/Papa Mario redirects are allowed to stay. ~Camwoodstock ( talk ☯ contribs ) 22:00, April 28, 2025 (EDT)

It's ok. I think I understood the proposal wrong. And I thought that it said that "Mama Mario" and "Papa Mario" are made up, and that it already happened many other times with characters, seen to be Mario's/Luigi's mom/dad. But thanks for the info! I appreciate it! Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 15:15, April 29, 2025 (EDT)

Even if they were made up, keeping the redirects (especially for a name that had been used for a while) helps preserve the link for other websites that may link to this article, and even for users that search for this article by this name without realising that it had been renamed. There's no need to mark already existing redirects for deletion, or actively go around tagging redirects or changing the letter case of redirects, except in a few circumstances (see MarioWiki:Redirects#Unnecessary redirects).

You should also edit the article accordingly so that it uses the new name after you rename a page. Mario JC 07:53, April 30, 2025 (EDT)

Categories

I don't know if it's because you ran out of time, but when making a new category, please try to commit to adding more than just one or a few entries to it, since for your past category creations, it seemed like you added them to one page and left them alone. Mario JC 08:06, April 30, 2025 (EDT)

RE: Dead links

Like I said in my last summary, {{dead link}} isn't just for the sake of indicating a dead link, it's to let editors know that it should be updated or replaced in some way (through archive sites like Wayback Machine for example) and puts the pages in a separate maintenance category. Unlike with just replacing it with {{ref needed}}, it at least gives editors a reference point to base their findings off of. Mario JC 10:16, April 30, 2025 (EDT)

Ok, I understand, but how long has that dead link already been on the Wii U page? Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 11:25, April 30, 2025 (EDT)

Mario Stadium

We conjecturally used "Mario Baseball" as the name of the series for 2 decades, by the way, there's naturally going to be leftover links and other text on other pages that still use it. They just need fixed. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 11:08, May 4, 2025 (EDT)

If we've been using it for decades, but the page itself is named different. Then why did nobody bother to change it, or at least note on the Super Mario Stadium (series) page that it's more widely known as Mario Baseball? Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 11:11, May 4, 2025 (EDT)

Because, from what we can tell, it's not officially used anywhere. We don't just list fan nicknames with no official acknowledgement. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 11:31, May 4, 2025 (EDT)

I understand that, but then why do we do it on other pages? Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 11:45, May 4, 2025 (EDT)

As we've already said, they're still being used on other pages because they haven't been updated yet since the page was renamed. There's a lot of pages that still use the name, so it would take a while to fix them all. Mario JC 12:00, May 4, 2025 (EDT)

It's ok, I understand. I can help giving these pages that need the updates the new title! Starting with the most important one I found (even being a Featured article; Paratroopa. I don't know why but someone edited the page only a day ago and it seems like every one is ignoring Mario Baseball. Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 12:25, May 4, 2025 (EDT)

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Please make sure to use a personal image on your userpage or signature once you've uploaded it, otherwise it will be deleted. Mario JC 07:58, May 13, 2025 (EDT)

"PF" means "personal file". As I said, images that you mark as personal images should be used on your userpage. Since you failed to use either within 24 hours of uploading them or reply to my message, I deleted them, but if you're going to actually use them now, I can restore them. Also, that issue was from a month ago, and as far as I know once a Shroom issue is published, it's not edited further except for minor fixes or maintenance edits. Mario JC 22:38, May 15, 2025 (EDT)

Oh, I meant Issue 218. I'm sorry for my mistake, I was tired when writing that. Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 16:22, May 17, 2025 (EDT)

Too many Personal Files

You currently have too many personal files. Users are limited to a maximum of five personal files, which can be used on your user page and/or for a signature on talk pages (see the personal file policy for details). Please select the personal files you would like to keep and mark all others for deletion using the {{delete}} template. If you have not relinquished your extra files within one week of receiving this notice, five files will be selected for retention at random, and the rest will be deleted. If you continue uploading more files and exceeding the limit, then a warning will be issued.

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Hello! You currently have too many Personal Files. MarioWiki:Personal files states that users may have a maximum of 5 Personal Files at a time. Three of these images will have to be deleted unfortunately. Please tell me which ones you'd like to keep and which ones should be deleted. Thank you! Sparks (talk) 23:11, December 25, 2025 (EST)

Yeah I could've guessed that I already went a little overboard. I ironically read the warning before adding all these personal files. I'll definitely keep my Purple Yoshi and "Sad Mario on Stairs" though since I already have those since my Post-Block Era. The others don't really matter but I was just wondering; I wanna submit these 5 Diamond Award pictures for Palette Swap, but how am I gonna do that if I'm not allowed to have more than 5 Personal Files? Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 05:06, December 26, 2025 (EST)

We touched on this subject on the wiki Discord, but to put it on the record here too, when there are images you'd like to use for The 'Shroom that aren't already on the wiki, you'll want to send them to the relevant Team Director (or send them in with the application, if you're messaging the Statistics Manager to start a new section). Include the proper wiki formatting for the images in the text of your section, include your pictures in your submission (and label them so it's clear which image goes where), and the staff will handle inserting them and preparing them for upload. As mentioned, if you need to save images for a bit and want them quickly on-hand later, uploading them to a PM on the forum with a 'Shroom staffer is an option. I hope this helps you and any other curious (prospective) writers! Hooded Pitohui (talk) 09:08, December 28, 2025 (EST)

Since those images are intended for use in The 'Shroom, I will be deleting them all until they can be properly uploaded by Shroom staff. — Lady Sophie_17 ^(T|C) 09:25, December 28, 2025 (EST)

Implementing proposals

Thank you for helping implement the secret point rename proposal. In the future, please keep in mind that renaming a page involves updating all links to the redirect created during the move, as well as updating all the text in the affected pages. I'd also like to remind you that the implementation of proposals falls primarily on the proposer, and while some people can appreciate the help, others might want to implement the changes themselves, as they were the ones leading the effort to propose them. In the future, please contact the original proposers if you wish to implement their changes, unless a considerable time (i.e. many months) has already passed. — Lady Sophie_17 ^(T|C) 09:24, December 28, 2025 (EST)

I see. Also I did click on "Update all links to the redirects" (or something like that). But yeah just trying my best to help out but maybe sometimes I'm "overhelping" (I guess). Thanks for informing me! Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 06:02, December 30, 2025 (EST)

RE: Mini-games vs. Minigames

It's not. Not sure which ones exactly off the top of my head (I know the older games also formatted it this way) but you're able to check the games yourself. Mario JC 20:21, January 3, 2026 (EST)

Letter case

Please don't change official names to be in Title Case. If it's written in lowercase in the source, it should be written in lowercase in the title. Mario JC 22:31, January 8, 2026 (EST)

Ah, I see. Sorry! Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 09:52, January 10, 2026 (EST)

RE: "is reused" vs. "are reused"

Statements that are "on the side" and separated by commas or brackets like that (like "Mario, as well as Luigi, is...") are treated as if they're not actually part of the sentence, so the subject is still treated as singular. Mario JC 06:08, January 15, 2026 (EST)

RE: Mario Party Infoboxes

The infoboxes containing multiple images was a result of a proposal that removed tabbers from the infoboxes. Once the tabbers were removed, all the images were then left in the infoboxes. I took it upon myself to limit them to just one image, pertaining to the minigame's original incarnation (much like how we handle Mario Kart tracks). If you feel differently on this and feel infoboxes should have multiple images in them, you can raise your own proposal about it, but that's my explanation about the deal; I personally believe we don't need every single appearance in the infobox, otherwise we get a mess of five images in the case of Shy Guy Says, Bumper Balls or Leaf Leap. Tails777 Talk to me!

What if a minigame (like with MP8) has multiple versions though (like, for example Aim of the Game (haha, love that name (haha that rhymes) has both a Battle and a Duel version (and we have images for both), I feel like at least those versions (the versions from the original game) should be in the infobox. The rest can definitely be in the gallery. Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 23:23, January 28, 2026 (UTC)

Perhaps examples of minigames with multiple versions in the same game themselves (such as MP6's day and night versions or, your example, MP8's regular and duel versions), it could be fine. To a degree, I guess that wouldn't be the worst. But at the same time, it could also be possible to highlight those images under a gameplay section or an area highlighting the duel versions. I want to say either direction would be okay, but maybe best to raise it as a discussion somewhere first (possibly the Minigame's talk page). I find it's the best idea to see what others think before raising proposals or making changes. Tails777 Talk to me!

Yeah I think that would be a good idea as well! Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 00:06, January 29, 2026 (UTC)

New category pages

Please familiarize yourself with our category guidelines, as not every category needed is necessarily eligible for creation. In addition, when creating them, please make sure they follow the correct format by looking at similar category pages, such as including an introductory sentence at the start, and proper categories themselves. — Lady Sophie_17 ^(T|C) 00:43, January 29, 2026 (UTC)

Shortened titles

Please stop listing shortened titles of names on articles unless you have proof of them being used in official material. Mario JC 10:11, February 2, 2026 (UTC)

@Mario jc, sometimes there just isn't proof that these names are used in official material. Is there proof (or do we at least have a source) for Nintendo calling the Nintendo Switch/Nintendo Switch 2 "Switch"/"Switch 2"? No. Is there proof (or a source) for Nintendo calling the Nintendo GameCube "GameCube" or "NGC"? Well, yes, but these are just internal names that abbreviate it is as "GC" (excluding NGC here because Nintendo either abbreviates the GameCube as GCN or GC). Yet we still list those names in the articles because they're widely known by those names (mostly because it's simpler/faster to say by removing the "Nintendo" from the consoles' names or in NGC's case because NGC actually stands for Nintendo GameCube while GCN stands for GameCube Nintendo). We don't have sources for most alternate names on consoles. Nintendo never called the Nintendo DS, Nintendo 2DS or Nintendo 3DS "DS", "2DS" or "3DS", respectively. Or the Nintendo Switch or Nintendo Switch 2 "Switch" or "Switch 2", respectively. Nintendo never used any of these names yet we still use them in all the console articles because all of those consoles are better known by these names than their actual ones. Then you also have consoles that lack the "Nintendo" prefix (mainly talking about the Wii and Wii U here) that are more formally called the "Nintendo Wii" and "Nintendo Wii U" to signify that they're from Nintendo (if you look up "Nintendo Wii (or Wii U) reveal trailer" you can find a lot of (popular) videos (like some by very popular reviews like IGN) that call the consoles "Nintendo Wii" and "Nintendo Wii U", respectively). But anyway, my point still stands. Nobody calls Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins "Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins" (not anymore at least), just like how nobody calls the Nintendo Switch "Nintendo Switch". They instead call Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins "Super Mario Land 2", just like how they call the Nintendo Switch "Switch". Because those names are simpler. So why would we note these simpler names on console articles (without any official sources of Nintendo calling them that) but not on game articles? They're not abbreviations (I totally get why we only put these on console articles), just simpler names. And if consoles are allowed to have these shortened names noted (mainly if the console has the "Nintendo" prefix), then so do the game articles. Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 15:00, February 2, 2026 (UTC)

They have been called Switch and Switch 2 officially, like in the April 2025 Direct. The point of listing such names is to mention any shorthand or alternate names Nintendo may have used, not names players would refer to them by (that's what redirects are for). Please don't make a habit of redoing previously reverted edits without providing any explanation, even after I've explained the reason for it on the history page through summaries (like this); continuing to do this is edit warring, which you were warned for previously. (Archives should also be unedited and the warnings are permanent records, so the messages should stay; do not modify or remove them again.) Mario JC 03:28, February 5, 2026 (UTC)

@Mario jc, have they ever called the Nintendo GameCube the "GameCube" though? Or the GCN the "NGC" or the Nintendo DS/2DS/3DS the "DS"/"2DS"/"3DS" or the Game Boy the "GB" or the Game Boy Color the "GBC"? Is there any source for those? Even if yes, why aren't these sources listed in the articles themselves? Same for "Switch" and "Switch 2". Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 13:58, February 5, 2026 (UTC)

RE: Mario Party Infoboxes

I believe it should be fine to add Duel versions of Mario Party 8's minigames to the infoboxes. I believe some of the other staff mentioned that said idea was fine, so I'm willing to believe there's less opposition over it. If any opposition does happen, you can always start a proposal, but otherwise, I see nothing wrong with going ahead. Tails777 Talk to me!

RE: "Opening (Donkey Kong)" theme in SMB3DS

They're not, only the character roster is the same but a lot of the content is different (stages, modes, music, trophies etc. - though some appear in both games). Mario JC 01:12, February 8, 2026 (UTC)

I see. I honestly used to think Super Smash Bros. 4 was more of a "we ported this game to a home/handheld console (in this case the Wii U/3DS) so we can make more money with it" kind of game. Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 01:29, February 8, 2026 (UTC)

RE: MK8DX Driver Stats / Talk page archive editing

No, once it's archived, it can't be edited unless it's for maintenance like fixing links (and what's done is done; there's no real point to go back and fix years-old mistakes or typos).

Also, I didn't notice the speed and handling stats were the same for every character (previously they were thought to be different, which is why those stats were split), so I'll remove those on the Cat Mario page. Mario JC 01:24, February 9, 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! Also just wondering but are you allowed to add some discussions to your most recent archive. So let's say I add my first four discussions here into that archive. Would that be allowed? Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 14:43, February 9, 2026 (UTC)

Media missing placement

Media missing notices should be placed within sections, as these notices are meant to make identifying sections that need to be improved easier, and section organization helps with tracking missing media. Additionally, as the articles for "King of the Koopas" and "Bonus Game BGM" already have media, placing an "all arrangements" media missing notice is incorrect. Additionally, construction notices do not need to be added unless the article is being actively worked on. B700465189a9 (talk) 18:41, February 26, 2026 (UTC)

@B700465189a9, I understand the {{media missing}} template reminder but I feel like the {{construction}} template still needs to be added to those pages to spread awareness. I know a couple construction that also aren't actively worked on, yet they still use the {{construction}} template. Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 18:44, February 26, 2026 (UTC)

RE: Portmanteau as foreign name meanings

The explanation is the meaning. I don't see why it needs to be moved to small text in notes. Personally, I'm not keen on the idea of forming the names ourselves since there may not be one set way to form them (take the "Tubirinto Piranha" example: it can either be "Piperinth" or "Pipeyrinth"); I think it's better to explain the etymology and let the readers come to that conclusion themselves. Mario JC 05:41, March 4, 2026 (UTC)

Alright I get what you mean, but in the case you know a languange really well or it's your native language, and you know absolutely what the portmanteau would be in English (like "Kleurboarden", which would be "Colorboarding" (and nothing else) in English), would it really be that bad to add the translated portmanteau as meaning, but only if you're very sure that that is what the portmanteau would be in English, if it's your native language, or it's just self-explanatory (as example, like you said, for a portmanteau of pipe and labyrinth, it's unknown whether it would be "Pipeyrinth", "Piperinth" or "Pipyrinth", but for a portmanteau of color and skateboarding, it's self-explanatory that color replaces skate in skateboarding and that the portmanteau would be "Colorboarding")? Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 19:54, March 4, 2026 (UTC)