Talk:Fire Flower

Is it disgusting or delicious?

In the trivia part of this article, it reads:

"Mario even reveals something about their taste, claiming that fire flowers 'taste disgusting, but if I eat them, I can shoot Fireballs.'"

However, the constellation information for Fire Flower in Mario Party 9 states:

"A constellation resembling a lovely flower. Though it makes a surprisingly tasty snack, it's spicy enough to cause any who eat it to breath fire."

Triple K, Skye 10:11, 20 April 2014 (EDT)

Both of them are just one-off lines with no real importance. I doubt the writers of Mario Party 9 went out of their way to check that their jokes are in line with the German comics.--Vommack (talk) 11:32, 20 April 2014 (EDT)

Trivia mess-up

Has anyone noticed that the trivia for the omnipresent Fire Flower just plain makes no sense? Most of the stuff there is repeated information; it could easily be shrunk down to just two or three dot points. PokeMaster33333 (talk) 17:30, 29 June 2015 (EDT)

Split Mario & Luigi series's Fire Flower special attack into a new "Fire Flower (move)" article

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I do not understand why this section (a Special Attack) is merge with a Item that does not appear in these games. Most Special Attack have their own page so this one should also have its own page. This name was used for a Special Attack and not to mentioned a item. This sould be split in a page called "Fire Flower (move)". (Eg : Goomba Storm is not merge with Goomba, Shy Guy Squad is not merge with Shy Guy…)

Proposer: LudwigVon (talk)
Deadline: December 19, 2015, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. LudwigVon (talk) Per my proposal.
2. Marioguy (talk) Per LudwigVon.
3. Sonic98 (talk) Per all.

Oppose

1. Bazooka Mario (talk) Per discussion below. Since the attack names refer to a specific item than a move name, it would be better (in this case) to leave information on attacks that involve recurring Mario items to one page. Otherwise, we'd have to bend backward and split a lot of other items because they function differently from the core game (Bullet Bill (item), Blooper (item), Chain Chomp (item), Chain Chomp (special item), Springboard from Trampoline, and other items. Finally, this proposal refers to an item that may not be seen, but the implications of the Fire Flower's existence are strong, demonstrated by the form change Mario and Luigi undergo.
2. Walkazo (talk) - Per Bazooka Mario. The info's fine where it is.
3. RandomYoshi (talk) – Per all.
4. Roy Koopa (talk) Per all.

Comments

This should also be do for the Red Shell and Green Shell, but I will wait after this proposal (if it passed)--^(TALK) 17:26, 5 December 2015 (EST)

All of Mario and Luigi's Special Attacks refer to a tangible item while Bowser's refers to a group or an action, so the comparison isn't perfect. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 18:02, 5 December 2015 (EST)

Also, one more comment: if this proposal passes, are you going to consider Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time Bros. items or are you just going to split that into something like "Green Shell (Bros. Item)". I'm not fully on board with this proposal. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 23:57, 6 December 2015 (EST)

I will just split into something like "Bros. Flower" since in Partners in Time, the Bros. Attack from Superstar Saga was replace with Bros. Item (a different concept) and later replace with special attack in Bowser's Inside Story (also a different concept this proposal is for this one). For Dream Team and Paper Jam, they should just get merge with Superstar Saga's Fire Bros. since they are Bros. Attack. I just make a single proposal for this one, because I wanted to know if there was possibility that it can passed, then after I will make bigger proposal for the attack and where it should go.--^(TALK) 11:28, 8 December 2015 (EST)

That sounds pretty convoluted. Wouldn't it be just good if all Fire Flower information stayed put in one overall Fire Flower page? It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 16:00, 10 December 2015 (EST)

After writing this, I thought about it a little , I did some checking on my side and I think you're right, I also think this attack has no real difference between each game.--^(TALK) 17:42, 10 December 2015 (EST)

Split Bros. Flower from Fire Flower

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While Bros. Flowers are very similar to Fire Flowers, the fact that they're used slightly differently and have different names in every region should be a clue that they're meant to be different from regular Fire Flowers.

Proposer: Niiue (talk)
Deadline: May 13, 2017, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. Niiue (talk) Per proposal.
2. Alex95 (talk) ...They weren't already? Shows how much I've been keeping up with this page...
   Anyway, the two items are indeed different, as far as I can tell. The only similarity is the appearance and fireballs. But the Bros. Flower effects all members of the party and the move behaves differently, switching back and forth between members as the battle goes on. It also does not change the characters' appearance, unlike the Fire Flower. I think this item only appears in Partners in Time (could be wrong), but I think the Bros. Flower should have its own page. And not just because I thought it had one already.
3. The Koopa Bro. (talk) Per all. They act differently.

Oppose

1. Yoshi the Space Station Manager (talk) Per proposal above (oppose side)
2. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per Yoshi the Space Station Manager. Fire Flowers from the Mario & Luigi series act more like normal Fire Flowers than the ones from the Super Smash Bros. series. The ones in the Mario & Luigi series transform Mario and Luigi into a their fire form, allowing them to shoot fireballs, just like normal, while the Super Smash Bros. ones shoot fire out of them instead of giving a power. The Mario & Luigi Fire Flowers are even more like normal ones than the Mario Kart series ones, as they don't transform characters into fire form. I do not feel they are different enough to be split.
3. Toadette the Achiever (talk) The Bros. Flower is too similar to the Fire Flower for it to warrant its own article. Per all.