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Previous proposals

Question of the Day

REJECTED 7-2

I find the "Quote of the Moment" boring. I see something different every time, and yet see repeats just as much. How about having a "Question of the Day" on the main page instead? That might make viewers more interested. I've got quite a bit of questions for asking to start you guys up:

  • "Why does Peach's castle look different every game?"
  • "Why are there always new places in the Mushroom Kingdom replacing the old areas in each game?"
  • "Why does Bowser always kidnap Peach?"
  • "Why does Mario live in a small cottage instead of his castle?"
  • "What makes Wario so greedy?"
  • "What is the point to having Waluigi around?"
  • "When will Daisy be part in another adventure game?"
  • "What makes Bowser King of the Koopas?"
  • "Just because places are named after characters, does that mean that those particular characters own them? (examples: does Mario own Mario Circut, or does Luigi own Luigi's Engine Room?)
  • "Why are there so many mushrooms in places where they are not famous for mushrooms?" (examples: Flipside, Rougeport, Beanbean, etc;)
  • "Why was Donkey Kong taken out of the Mario Party sereis as a playable character?"
  • "Why do enemies have different names in some games?"
  • "How are Goombas able to hold things when they have no arms?"
  • "Why is Peach the "chosen one" for the game's plot (and therefore is kiddnapped)?"
  • "Why do Dry Bones that stand up wear gloves when their living counterparts do not?"
  • "When characters get flattened, why do they get TOTALLY flattened (as paper)? They are not made of putty!"
  • "What makes objects like platforms and blocks float in the air?"
  • "Why are there so many blocks?"
  • "Why are there items in one game have the same effect as other items in another game? (examples: Fright Jar-Fright Mask, Repel Jel-Boo's Sheet)"
  • "Do those spiked shells on Bowser, the Koopalings, or Koopa Kid mean ANYTHING?"
  • "Why does Luigi not live in his mansion?"
  • "Why did Prof. E. Gadd invent the Hydrogush to help Mario and Luigi when he could have just use F.L.U.D.D.?"
  • "Where are all the humans?"
  • "What would life have been like if Kamek succeeded in disposing the Mario Bros.?"
  • "If characters in the video game world are playing video games of past plots, would they be considered true stories?"
  • "What becomes of enemies that have been turned into eggs by Yoshi, then used?"

These are just a few that I was able to think up, but others may participate as well with their own questions. These are not questions of how much people know about the Marioverse games, just food for thought (so the title could be called "Questionable Question") One question a day, and these questions (from above) alone will last the feature 26 days. Each one can be put into the archives after the day is done, if wanted. So, what do you think? (please do not put the questions up on the main page if this proposal is to be put on the latest proposal section of the main page. It'll spoil everything.)

Proposer:Benio Pose2.JPGMr.BenioYoshi-1.gif
Deadline: 20:00, Oct. 19

Yay

  1. Luigibros2 I think it's a good idea and would be kind of fun.
  2. --[[User:Nasakid|Zach121]] 22:25, 13 October 2007 (EDT) Agreed with LB And YAYZ

Nah

  1. That kind of thing belongs in The 'Shroom. Tadaa!2.gifPlumberTadaaa!.gif 22:30, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
  2. ~PY Purpleyoshisig.PNG-Quote of the Moment is more fun. If not we can do quote of the day.
  3. Cobold (talk · contribs) - Per Plumber.
  4. User:Ultimatetoad - meh..... i like quote of the day better, most of those questions have no real answers...
  5. Stumpers! 00:08, 15 October 2007 (EDT) I've never said per before, but per Plumber... brrr... I don't like how that sounds. Those are really clever questions. I'd like to see them discussed, particularly the mansion/castle question about the Mario Bros. Did they sell those? What I'm trying to say is it just doesn't seem like something that would work on the main page, but it will work SOMEwhere. I'd go for the 'Shroom. Maybe there could be user-submitted explanations to spark discussion?
  6. papertoycf7.gif Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back! papertoycf7.gif Nah. Why? Well, because I have the answer to everything: It's videogames and they don't actually need answers. They have to be fun thats all.
  7. Mr. Guy the GuyPickle.png Talk!E You ccan just look up this stuff

Comments

  1. I think we should also have a random trivia fact that picks a random fact instead of the did you know box thats already on the front page. --[[User:Nasakid|Zach121]] 12:38, 14 October 2007 (EDT)
Now, THAT is a good idea!

Glowsquid

Oooh, ho, ho, ho! Me gusta mucho. (I like it, for those of you who just know English) You feel like creating a proposal? Stumpers! 00:09, 15 October 2007 (EDT)
  1. Why not both? ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)
  2. The answers to a few of your questions can be found in the intro of the SMB manual.
  3. Hel-LOOO? I know that we know most of those questions! It's just to make people think. Make theories for themselves. Benio Pose2.JPGMr.BenioYoshi-1.gif 20:26, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
Great, just what we need, more stupid theories(!) Just so you know, it is stupid theories like the ones you want to make that have ruined a few of the articles on this Wiki! My Bloody Valentine
I think you're being a bit harsh DP. It's not like someone's going to read the question, come up with a theory, and immediately slap it on an article. And if they do, we can just fix the articles. Plus, not all the theories these questions might engender are necesarily going to be stupid, so that comment was unnecesary... - Walkazo

Mario Info

REJECTED 6-2

It seems we have a rule that we cannot have Non-Mario info on pages for characters/places/items from other series', like Super Sonic or Zelda. However, we should be able to give at least a short back story of what happened in other games, doing so would make a lot of the articles make a lot more sense to viewers who are not fans of that series. I propose that we should be able to do this, AND include some images from previous Non-Mario games where the Place/Item/Character appeared(This may include some articles for things that would not get an article because they are from another series, even if they are shown/implied in a Mario game).

Proposer: Uniju :D
Deadline: 20:00, Oct. 19

Support

  1. ~Uniju(T-C-E)I am the proposer, and my reasons are given above.
  2. Tadaa!2.gifPlumberTadaaa!.gif 23:20, 17 October 2007 (EDT) I agree with Uniju.

Oppose

  1. Mr. Guy the GuyPickle.png Talk!E Were not allowed at first, so I agree with the old rule
  2. My Bloody Valentine We already provide a brief backstory on the character. VERY brief summaries are allowed, and have already been used. Also, we should only provide Images from Mario-based games (The Cameos articles excluded).
  3. Mario riding YoshiXzelionETC Per DP
  4. Son of Suns - We should only provide info that appears in Mario games. We don't want this becoming a general Nintendo/video game wiki. Links should be provided to Wikipedia and other video game wikis so users can find more info about a non-Mario subject.
  5. Ghost JamShyghost.PNG Non-Mario related character articles should only list information that is relevant to said character being included in the Mario Wiki. Other information, such as a brief rundown of Zelda's history, would be out of place. Please see further comments below.
  6. Cobold (talk · contribs) - For Smash Bros. characters, the trophies of them and trophies of other elements of their series should provide enough story to put together.

Comments

Mr. Guy, you don't agree because an existing rule says otherwise? Thats the reason this is a proposal, and I don't think thats a valid reason. -_-' ~Uniju(T-C-E)

And DP: Like I said in the proposal, most people who are NOT fans of that series will need to haunt down info from other places to understand any of it. So we should be able to show more info than we do, and theres nothing about Sonic Adventure on the Sonic article, or Ocarina of Time on the Zelda article, its against the rules to add that info. ~Uniju(T-C-E)

I see Sonic as an exception to the rule. Sonic and Mario have a non-game rivalry that started way back in 1992. That might be something to place an article about. -- Shyghost.PNGChrisShyghost.PNG 04:10, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

In theory this proposal sounds like a good idea. But as everyonme else has said, this is Super Mario Wiki. We don't need to know what happened in Ocarina of Time to understand Zelda and Links' role in the Marioverse. And as Cobald said, for Super Smash. Bros. characters the trophies are enough to understand some stuff about thier personalities and some aspects of their personal history (Link is brave, Link saves Zelda a lot, etc.). If people want to find out more, the Internet's a big place, and it's not our job to tell people about Zelda or Earthbound or whatever, just Mario. - Walkazo

A line could be added at the end of a non-Mario characters article linking to Wikipedia or whatever series specific wiki is available. -- Shyghost.PNGChrisShyghost.PNG 13:38, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
I see where you're coming from, Uniju. We should provide information to an extent. Making a page as dedicated as Mario for example would be going overboard, obviously. I think we're pretty good as it is now. :3 We should link to other Wikis, though. How about one link to Wikipedia and one link to a specialty Wiki using the same format as Uncyclopedia? Here's a couple of good Wikis:

Stumpers! 00:21, 15 October 2007 (EDT)

Might I add, there is also a Nintendo Wiki. My Bloody Valentine
This seems like a good place to make a note about crosslinking. IE: Mario links to Mario, which also has a link back to Mario. This keeps the flow of information fresh. -- Shyghost.PNGChrisShyghost.PNG 15:59, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
That would be great if Wikipedia would allow it. I've seen links to us get deleted, though. Even though we rock socks. Stumpers! 20:29, 17 October 2007 (EDT)

Add Fan Flash Series

REJECTED 19-4

I've seen on Wikipedia an Super Mario Bros. Z article. Now it's deleted, but on another language (French for example), that article is still there. I think popular fan flash series, such as Super Mario Bros. Z shall be added. But what do YOU think? Shall we add them or not?

Proposer: ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)
Deadline: Sunday, October 21, 15:00 (EDT)

ADD THEM!!!!

  1. ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits) I'm Proposer
  2. Yes it's a popular cartoon and It has to do with Mario, so I don't see why not. User:Gowser
  3. Yes add them! I remember in one of the episodes credits it said that they got permission by Nintendo and Sega.-Mcoolister
  4. It would be nice to add an article based on a popular web show. But sadly, as I can tell from the amount of posts below, I can say, no. Sorry SMBZ lovers. =( Superjustin 18:48, 15 October 2007 (EDT)

Don't add them...

  1. My Bloody Valentine Give it a little while longer, and that article will be deleted on the French site as well. We are an encyclopedia based on REAL Mario content, not Mario content that fans of the series have made.
  2. Supertroopa As Pokemon DP just mentioned this is supposed to be a site full of the content of the real Mario series of games created by Nintendo and it wouldn't work out with the articles full of the real content and the content by fans.
  3. MarioBros777 It's Back to Editing!!! There's going to be a Wiki for it. Join that even though it is not out yet it will be soon. :P
  4. Son of Suns - It's unofficial information, and not needed. Plus, I think the 'Shroom has a section devoted to unofficial Mario flash media.
  5. Cobold (talk · contribs) - Per all.
  6. Mario riding YoshiXzelionETC Per All
  7. papertoycf7.gif Paper Jorge! I give paper cuts so stand back! papertoycf7.gif This wiki is about Mario games, comics, movies and official stuff. Unofficial stuff is a no.
  8. Snack 12:33, 15 October 2007 (EDT) No way. Just because it is popular and relativly well known, doesn't mean it belongs here. Put it on Fantendo or something.
  9. Walkazo and PP - Per all. Besides, there have been articles on fan movies in the past (i.e. Rise of the Mushroom Kingdom) and they all got deleted. Also, some stuff in the Flash movies might be a bit mature for the Wiki (RotMK had blood and gore, for example).
  10. huntercrunch Per SoS. This was proposed i assume only because you are a fan yourself. If it isn't official information, then it has no place here on the wiki.
  11. Full Metal MoogleKirbyWalk.gif they are not official.
  12. 3dhammer.gif 3D, no way, jose! It's nearly impossible to chronicle all fan series. 3dhammer.gif
  13. King Mario f_KMThumbm_38614a2.png
  14. Booster No. Even though I enjoy the series, fanworks aren't something we cover.
  15. Stumpers! Okay, I'm finally saying no to this one, just because I realized how much trouble there would be in determining which fan creations should be covered and which should not be. Sorry, Arend...
  16. Sorry,Arend,but there must be THOUSANDS. And half of them are innapropriate. So I say no.(Toadbert101

Videos For Articles

DO NOT ADD 8-12

I propose we add videos to articles such as Mario Party Mini Games so we can see what the mini games are actually like instead of having to imagine what it would be like.

Proposer:Rainbowyoshi.gifFile:MP8 DryBones.jpgSuper Yoshi10Artwork of Yoshi in Mario Party 8 (later reused for Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games)Lookey ThisBlack Yoshi Move.gif
Deadline: 19:00, Oct. 23

Add Them

  1. Reasons given above. Super Yoshi10
  2. ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits) That's such a good idea!
  3. Shrooby GreenDance.gif Talk We already have <youtube> (my idea) but we can only use on userpages! Steve thinks that they have so bad quality but we put the videos on the articles but with links I don't see the difference!
  4. Yes. Not just mini-games, but videos for all sorts of articles. In fact, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING TODAY (they're under a section I called "Have a Look!")! Check out my first one on the Super Mario Bros. article. And I'll keep on finding more if I wan't to. All you have to do to stop me is deny this proposal. You know, I was thinking of doing this proposal anyway, but instead, I'm making it happen.Benio Pose2.JPGMr.BenioYoshi-1.gif 20:35, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
  5. Glowsquid I think that these videos could be useful on article about obscure glitches or Beta Elements, I don't think we should link to Youtube on every pages thought.
  6. --[[User:Nasakid|Zach121]] 21:53, 21 October 2007 (EDT) Add them
  7. Yes, videos help User:Gowser
  8. Youtube links are used in the halopedia articles, why not here? Master Crash

Don't Add Them

  1. My Bloody Valentine The article already states what the Mini-game does. No need for videos. Besides, it would be VERY hard to upload movies.
  2. I have horribly slow internet, and webpages with movies would take way to long for my computer to load.
    The preceding unsigned comment was added by ShyGuy27 (talk).
  3. Ghost JamShyghost.PNG We tried this long ago. Didn't work out so well. -- Shyghost.PNGChrisShyghost.PNG 15:57, 16 October 2007 (EDT)
  4. Walkazo - Per Shyguy27. And even though my computer's not slow all the time, movies eat up SO much memory: I wouldn't be able to see images after three pages with videos, and three pages after that, the computer itself would stop working right. Other people are bound to have similar problems...
  5. Per Walkazo Mario riding YoshiXzelionETC
  6. King Mario f_KMThumbm_38614a2.png
  7. ~PY Purpleyoshisig.PNG-Per DP. What's the point? This isn't a virtual reality video game.
  8. ~Uniju(T-C-E) Per DP. It makes articles look less professional.
  9. Cobold (talk · contribs) - Links to (important) movies can be put on some pages, but we shouldn't flood the wiki with superflous, mostly low-res videos.
  10. Stumpers! I'm changing my vote based on DP and Uniju's comments regarding professionalism. I could see linking working well in the cases I was talking about (trailers, etc.) Also, Youtube just sloooowed down a brand new computer in my house and reminded me just how finicky bandwidth was. Sorry, guys. :(
  11. Time Questions Per Uniju and Cobold.
  12. Mr. Guy the GuyPickle.png Talk!E Per all

Comments

Super Yoshi, PLEASE vote yourself! Also, FOR GOODNESS SAKES!! You didn't add any vote sections to this Proposal! Yeesh, anyone would have enough common sense to add the vote sections! My Bloody Valentine

No, he gets MY vote! ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

Pokemon DP:Never heard of the Youtube tag?

Arend: I think Pokemon DP was talking about the fact that Super Yoshi didn't add any section to vote. Glowsquid

Glowsquid: It doesn't matter, movies don't seem very much needed on articles. I would say use that Youtube tag only on Userpages. My Bloody Valentine
I agree, but I was only pointing out that it wouldn't be "it would be VERY hard to upload movies", like you said.

Glowsquid

Who was Oppose voter #2? PP

Shroobario I think u put ur vote on the wrong 1 King Mario f_KMThumbm_38614a2.png

All we have to do is put links on the article to the video. It's so simple everyone can do it. Everyone SHOULD do it if they want to help out.

Benio Pose2.JPGMr.BenioYoshi-1.gif 20:35, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

You could do something like this on the 'Shroom, like a Video of the Issue?

I don't care if it says we can only use youtube on user pages! Just change that law. Oh and Shy guy 27 Just because you have slow internet doesn't mean we all have a slow computer! The wiki is not just centered on you you know! Rainbowyoshi.gifFile:MP8 DryBones.jpgSuper Yoshi10Artwork of Yoshi in Mario Party 8 (later reused for Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games)[http://yoshilegacy.co.nr/