Talk:Super Mario Land

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Level articles?[edit]

Assuming I would like to write something about every single level in the game, how should this be done in your opinion? 12 articles for 12 stages or rather put the information in the kingdom articles? And in case of the first option, how to name the articles? / Time Q 14:41, 31 July 2007 (EDT)

You can give the levels made-up names and label them with {{Conjecture}}, but I would recommend putting the information in the kingdom articles, as we've done with SMB3 level info. YELLOWYOSHI398

Negmahuh?[edit]

In the story section of this article it says Mario likely went to rescue Daisy because of Peach? How does that make any sense? Fixitup

Well, sorta, cos' Peach and Daisy are friends. Regardless, you are right, it doesn't belong here. I was the one who put that there in the first place, back when I was a beginner. I removed it anyway. My Bloody Valentine
Note: That Peach and Daisy are friends has not been said for at least 7 years after this game. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 05:30, 31 August 2007 (EDT)
Which is exactly why I removed it. My Bloody Valentine Sorry about adding it. I was a novice when I added that. :(

Wario connection...[edit]

Where exactly was it said that Wario had set up the whole thing? I don't remember ever hearing that until just recently when I looked on here, and I've played both the first and second Mario Land multiple times... didn't Wario just say that he took Mario's castle while he was busy in Sarasaland, and not that he actually set the whole thing up? Or was the Wario connection to the first game from some other source (such as magazines/guides, which should almost never be considered canon?) Wario'sFalconPAUNCH! 23:26, 10 September 2007 (EDT)

Guides are official. Wether it was in it or not, I have no idea. It was officially stated somewhere, I'm sure of it, unfortunately, I'm not that good at remembering. Guides ARE official, by the way. We can consider them canonical as well. My Bloody Valentine
Hmm... didn't know about the policy on guides; then again my only experience with Nintendo's strategy guides is the Pokémon ones, which are usually so full of obvious mistakes that they're basically useless (only good part is that they have pictures of each Pokémon all in one place.) If the Mario guides are on a higher level of quality than that, though, then I guess there's nothing wrong with using info from them.
Anyway, can anyone remember where that bit of info came from? It does sound like something Wario would do, but... Wario'sFalconPAUNCH! 00:01, 11 September 2007 (EDT)
I actually don't think this is stated officially anywhere. It is however, implied, given that Tatanga works for Wario in SML 2. However, this needs to be changed all over the wiki. I know the instruction manual only says Wario took control of Mario's castle while Mario was away, not that Wario hired Tatanga. However, the possibility can be mentioned, but to my knowledge, no offcial source confirms this. -- Son of Suns

References[edit]

These pathetic excuses for references should be removed. Why?

"Mario Bros. (game)|Mario Bros.: The Fighter Fly enemies (or enemies that look and act very similar to them) make an appearance"

  • That's a formed opinion that is not worthy of mentioning.

"Super Mario Bros.: Many of the boss battles in Super Mario Land, especially the first one, were very similar to the battles against Bowser, where the player would either run or jump over the bosses to press the switch behind them, or the player could kill them by constantly shooting them. Also, the concept of the fake Princess Daisies is similar to the fact that Princess Toadstool was at another castle almost every time Mario defeated a boss. That there are common enemies turned into fake Daisies may also be a reference to the Fake Bowsers of Super Mario Bros., as they are regular enemies as well (Goombas, Koopas, etc.) Also, when the game is beaten, the player gets to replay the game with a few changes made (and also gets to select their stage)"

  • This is pretty much completely someone's point of view. In other words, their opinion. It is not a fact that especially in the first boss battle, it is similar to the boss battle with Bowser. All Mario boss battles could be said to be similar in some way. How unmentionable.
  • ALSO, the concept of the fake Princess Daisy showing up is barely the same as Peach not being there when you complete a level. It is only one's opinion that these are mentionably similar.
  • And then it just goes on to mention other similarities that are even more outrageous and once again p.o.v. Also, the last mention is ONCE AGAIN just because it's a game in the same series. Let's mention the fact you play as Mario, oh my gosh so similar to the other games. You're saving a princess, oh gosh so similar. These things are taken to points of view as well as the fact they are completely unmentionable, at the very least not worthy as having a whole section to mention them.

"Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins: Tatanga reappears as a boss in this game."

  • And that is mentioned on Tatangas page as well as the games page. So why is it being said here?

"Super Smash Bros. Melee and Super Smash Bros. Brawl: Daisy has her own trophy, which also mentions Tatanga. Also, Daisy's brown hair and yellow dress is an alternate costume for Peach."

  • Yeah, Daisy has her own trophy, Daisy also appears in almost 40 total Mario games, how unique a mention. Daisy also doesn't have brown hair and everyone and their grandma knows the Smash series has character costumes.

"Super Princess Peach and Wario Land: The Shake Dimension: The protagonists (Princess Peach and Wario, respectively) ride submarines in the underwater stages of these games, just as Mario does in Super Mario Land."

  • Oh my gosh, do I honestly need to mention how ridiculous this is? That is not anywhere near worth mentioning.

"Super Smash Bros. Brawl: In the Subspace Emissary, the theme song that plays inside the Ruins is a remix of the song that plays in Worlds 1-3, 3-2, and 3-3."

  • Something like this belongs in the trivia section. Why do we have these sections at all? ForeverDaisy09 10:13, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
I agree, most seem like uninformational and opinionized crap.--FREAK ~Game GameBros.png Freak~ OUT!
FD09's absolutely right about the Fighter Fly thing, Tatanga's reappearance and Daisy's SSB trophies. The submarine stuff might be worth keeping since SML was the first to do it, and for all we know Nintendo could have decided to recycle that idea, but since we don't know for sure, maybe it would be better to put it in the Trivia, or better yet, in the Marine Pop's Trivia. As for the big SMB section, I actually think there's some valid points there: SML unabashedly paid homage to the original SMB, and ignoring that would be a mistake. The battle against King Totomesu was very similar to the Bowser fights (the other battles weren't, though, and shouldn't be mentioned), and the Daisy fake-out was undeniably SML's version of the Toads - the fact that it involved fake enemies like the False Bowsers may or may not have been done on purpose, but regardless of intent, it is an interesting point that is worth bringing to the readers' attentions. The stuff about what happens after being the game is pointless, though, so it can be cut. And finally, if there were no references besides the Brawl music, it could be put in Trivia to save on space and clutter, but is we're keeping the SMB stuff, the music should stay right where it is because it is a noteworthy reference. - Walkazo 13:38, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
The submarine part is really common sense, what else are they going to drive underwater, an airplane? I somewhat agree with the parts of the Daisy and the Toads by the way it sounds, but I haven't played SML so I can't bash half these answers/problems. We'll see what others think though. --FREAK ~Game GameBros.png Freak~ OUT!

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Nintendo EAD?[edit]

Okay, the article states the game was not developed by Nintendo EAD but by Nintendo R&D1, yet the infobox states the developer is Nintendo EAD. Also, in the Nintendo EAD article, Super Mario Land is on the list of Mario games they developed.

What exactly is happening? Akfamilyhome!SMG2 Bob-omb Buddy.png 09:25, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

And for more information, Nintendo EAD is Nintendo R&D4, but not R&D1. Akfamilyhome!SMG2 Bob-omb Buddy.png 00:48, 31 March 2012 (EDT)

The Super Mario Land games are confirmed canon by Nintendo[edit]

Nintendo on their Japanese 30th anniversary website has posted "the history of the super mario series." All the games considered canon are still on the list, however the Super Mario Land games (specifically the first mario land and six golden coins)are added. Since this is indeed an official source by Nintendo, we have no choice but to edit this and the "Super Mario Land series" article to fit this official picture by Nintendo. If there is any reason why we should deny this official source please speak up. Here is the official source.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/mario30th/index.html#/history/ Thenintendostooge (talk)