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#{{User|Hewer}} The fact that this is separated in the capture list means that it's officially considered a separate thing. We don't have a separate page for Lake Cheep Cheep, but that's only because it's just the normal Cheep Cheep, as identified everywhere else in the game (including the capture list) where it isn't just generically called a 'fish', so the name 'Lake Cheep Cheep' was probably only used to differentiate it from the Snow Cheep Cheeps. Also, three of the four purple Cheep Cheeps you linked to are separate from Cheep Cheep anyway, so I don't see your point there. | #{{User|Hewer}} The fact that this is separated in the capture list means that it's officially considered a separate thing. We don't have a separate page for Lake Cheep Cheep, but that's only because it's just the normal Cheep Cheep, as identified everywhere else in the game (including the capture list) where it isn't just generically called a 'fish', so the name 'Lake Cheep Cheep' was probably only used to differentiate it from the Snow Cheep Cheeps. Also, three of the four purple Cheep Cheeps you linked to are separate from Cheep Cheep anyway, so I don't see your point there. | ||
#{{User|Seandwalsh}} As well as whay Hewer said, the other purple Cheep Cheeps mentionined are separate Cheep Cheep species. It also serves a different function in gameplay, being resistant to the cold waters. Unless there's also going to be a merger of Eep Cheeps and Deep Cheeps I don't see why this one should. The Bonnetor Biologist from the power moon mission also points out that it has a "natural cold sink" and calls it a "freezing fishy mystery". Regardless, if the page stays separate it should be moved to "Cheep Cheep (Snow Kingdom)", as that ''is'' what it's called on the capture list. | |||
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@Hewer the game also lists the puzzle and picture pieces from the 2 different kingdoms as separate, yet we have them merged. As for the color, my point is that purple is not a unique cheep cheep color for it to have. The fact that other cheep cheeps were purple, that the game only calls it a snow cheep cheep in 1 version and that it’s functionally identical is why this proposal was made in the first place. Also, the fact that the name for the Snow Cheep Cheep in the capture list is Cheep Cheep(Snow Kingdom) implies that it's a cheep cheep living in the snow kingdom, not a cheep cheep variant or sub-species of a cheep cheep. [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 09:18, September 17, 2021 (EDT) | @Hewer the game also lists the puzzle and picture pieces from the 2 different kingdoms as separate, yet we have them merged. As for the color, my point is that purple is not a unique cheep cheep color for it to have. The fact that other cheep cheeps were purple, that the game only calls it a snow cheep cheep in 1 version and that it’s functionally identical is why this proposal was made in the first place. Also, the fact that the name for the Snow Cheep Cheep in the capture list is Cheep Cheep(Snow Kingdom) implies that it's a cheep cheep living in the snow kingdom, not a cheep cheep variant or sub-species of a cheep cheep. [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 09:18, September 17, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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Name
From where does the name Snow Cheep Cheep come from? In the capture list it's as stated called Cheep Cheep (Snow Kingdom) so why is it Snow Cheep Cheep? --Raltseye prata med mej 06:10, 4 December 2017 (EST)
- The name "Snow Cheep Cheep" comes from the Snow Kingdom Power Moon, "I Met a Snow Cheep Cheep". --
TheFlameChomp (talk) 06:43, 4 December 2017 (EST)
- Okay thanks! --Raltseye prata med mej 10:03, 4 December 2017 (EST)
- It's not that simple, though. If you check out the name of I Met a Snow Cheep Cheep! in other languages, most of them refer to it as a Cheep Cheep in the snow or some variant thereof (in Japanese, the Snow Kingdom's Cheep Cheep). It's also a counterpart to the I Met a Lake Cheep Cheep! mission, and we're not calling the regular red Cheep Cheeps "Lake Cheep Cheeps" anytime soon. As unusual as "Cheep Cheep (Snow Kingdom)" is as labeled in the Capture List, it's clearly the intentional name, whereas Snow Cheep Cheep seems to be incidental. LinkTheLefty (talk) 09:04, 8 December 2017 (EST)
- If that's the case, I definately think we should rename it to Cheep Cheep (Snow Kingdom). --Raltseye prata med mej 06:36, 9 December 2017 (EST)
- Snow Cheep Cheep seems to mean "Cheep Cheep of the snow," so it's basically an identifier from official wording, ie works just as well as Cheep Cheep (Snow Kingdom) would. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 08:04, 9 December 2017 (EST)
- It's inconsistent to use Snow Cheep Cheep when Lake Cheep Cheep also exists in a corresponding mission title, especially when we're well aware that they're both likely to be a minor translation mistake instead of a deliberate name. "Cheep Cheep (Snow Kingdom)" is just more readily visible to players as well. We didn't make up the identifier - it's consistently there in almost every language in the Capture List. Think Broode's Chain Chomp being the proper name of Chain Chompikins from the same game. LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:56, 17 December 2017 (EST)
- If they're referred to as "Cheep Cheep (Snow Kingdom)", wouldn't that imply they're just regular Cheep Cheeps that happen to live in that kingdom? Is there any difference between the lake and snow Cheep Cheeps besides colour anyways? Blinker (talk) 14:35, September 13, 2021 (EDT)
- They're resistant to freezing water. That's it, really. Since it's pretty much just a color variant, I wouldn't be opposed to a merge.
18:50, September 13, 2021 (EDT)
- They're resistant to freezing water. That's it, really. Since it's pretty much just a color variant, I wouldn't be opposed to a merge.
- If they're referred to as "Cheep Cheep (Snow Kingdom)", wouldn't that imply they're just regular Cheep Cheeps that happen to live in that kingdom? Is there any difference between the lake and snow Cheep Cheeps besides colour anyways? Blinker (talk) 14:35, September 13, 2021 (EDT)
- It's inconsistent to use Snow Cheep Cheep when Lake Cheep Cheep also exists in a corresponding mission title, especially when we're well aware that they're both likely to be a minor translation mistake instead of a deliberate name. "Cheep Cheep (Snow Kingdom)" is just more readily visible to players as well. We didn't make up the identifier - it's consistently there in almost every language in the Capture List. Think Broode's Chain Chomp being the proper name of Chain Chompikins from the same game. LinkTheLefty (talk) 08:56, 17 December 2017 (EST)
- Snow Cheep Cheep seems to mean "Cheep Cheep of the snow," so it's basically an identifier from official wording, ie works just as well as Cheep Cheep (Snow Kingdom) would. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 08:04, 9 December 2017 (EST)
- If that's the case, I definately think we should rename it to Cheep Cheep (Snow Kingdom). --Raltseye prata med mej 06:36, 9 December 2017 (EST)
- It's not that simple, though. If you check out the name of I Met a Snow Cheep Cheep! in other languages, most of them refer to it as a Cheep Cheep in the snow or some variant thereof (in Japanese, the Snow Kingdom's Cheep Cheep). It's also a counterpart to the I Met a Lake Cheep Cheep! mission, and we're not calling the regular red Cheep Cheeps "Lake Cheep Cheeps" anytime soon. As unusual as "Cheep Cheep (Snow Kingdom)" is as labeled in the Capture List, it's clearly the intentional name, whereas Snow Cheep Cheep seems to be incidental. LinkTheLefty (talk) 09:04, 8 December 2017 (EST)
- Okay thanks! --Raltseye prata med mej 10:03, 4 December 2017 (EST)
Merge to Cheep Cheep
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Per everything above. This is just a Zigzag Lava Bubble situation with extra steps. The name comes from the power moon mission, it's only from the English version of the power moon mission(The other languages either say Cheep Cheep in the snow or just Cheep Cheep), and it's only functional difference ties to the kingdom it's in. There isn't much reason for keeping it split that I can think of given the fact that the game also calls the regular cheep cheep a "Lake Cheep Cheep" in a similar mission, and it's not like we have an article for that Cheep Cheep.
But it's purple, not red!
That's not a unique color for Cheep Cheeps.
Proposer: Somethingone (talk)
Deadline: September 30, 2021, 23:59 GMT
Support
- Somethingone (talk) Per proposal.
- 7feetunder (talk) Per proposal.
- Ray Trace (talk) There's also the green Cheep Cheeps from Yoshi's New Island so yeah, merge.
- WildWario (talk) Per all.
- Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Might as well make a page for Lake Cheep Cheep. Per proposal.
- Swallow (talk) This is clearly a functionally identical color variant.
- Niiue (talk) Per all.
Oppose
- Hewer (talk) The fact that this is separated in the capture list means that it's officially considered a separate thing. We don't have a separate page for Lake Cheep Cheep, but that's only because it's just the normal Cheep Cheep, as identified everywhere else in the game (including the capture list) where it isn't just generically called a 'fish', so the name 'Lake Cheep Cheep' was probably only used to differentiate it from the Snow Cheep Cheeps. Also, three of the four purple Cheep Cheeps you linked to are separate from Cheep Cheep anyway, so I don't see your point there.
- Seandwalsh (talk) As well as whay Hewer said, the other purple Cheep Cheeps mentionined are separate Cheep Cheep species. It also serves a different function in gameplay, being resistant to the cold waters. Unless there's also going to be a merger of Eep Cheeps and Deep Cheeps I don't see why this one should. The Bonnetor Biologist from the power moon mission also points out that it has a "natural cold sink" and calls it a "freezing fishy mystery". Regardless, if the page stays separate it should be moved to "Cheep Cheep (Snow Kingdom)", as that is what it's called on the capture list.
Comments
@Hewer the game also lists the puzzle and picture pieces from the 2 different kingdoms as separate, yet we have them merged. As for the color, my point is that purple is not a unique cheep cheep color for it to have. The fact that other cheep cheeps were purple, that the game only calls it a snow cheep cheep in 1 version and that it’s functionally identical is why this proposal was made in the first place. Also, the fact that the name for the Snow Cheep Cheep in the capture list is Cheep Cheep(Snow Kingdom) implies that it's a cheep cheep living in the snow kingdom, not a cheep cheep variant or sub-species of a cheep cheep. Somethingone (talk) 09:18, September 17, 2021 (EDT)
