Talk:List of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! quotes

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Why isn't there a under construction tag here if it's under construction? And There are missing characters like Princess Toadstool and more.F g

It's only under construction if a user is continuosly working on the page for a period of time. Currently, no one seems to be working on it. I think you mean the stub template is needed on this page. Knife (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2008 (EDT)

Eventual Split

When the time comes, should we split this page into cartoon and live action quotes? Not right now of course, but eventually there will be so many, it will be too much. I'm thinking "List of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! cartoon quotes" and "List of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! live action quotes", or something like that. Grandet Omate (talk) 19:37, July 6, 2020 (EDT)

Needs a split

It's the second biggest page in the wiki at the time of this writing. This page does not need to have every quote for every character from this show. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 17:35, July 22, 2022 (EDT)

Could start with splitting off Mario, Luigi, Toadstool, Toad and Koopa into their own articles. That would cut it down immensely. Paper Jorge (Talk·Contribs)

"This page does not need to have every quote for every character from this show." - why not? This page is literally to document quotes from the show, what's the harm in collecting most of the quotes from the show?

Also, afaik, our policy is that list pages are exempt from the article size policy and aren't typically split to cut down on size. User:Somethingone/sig 18:54, July 22, 2022 (EDT)

We have to tread a line between being a script dump and an encyclopedia. You should pick quotes you think help illustrate the character and maybe give a good idea of the general sort of show we're dealing with.

Lists may be exempt from article size policy but I think it's a legitimate concern that this page is unnecessarily massive. We should be trimming when we can (and should, policy might just need to catch up), as we have split List of favored and favorite courses in Mario Kart Tour, which was a page at a far unacceptable size at a gigantic 1,126,060 bytes; this one is 582,434 bytes; it's enormous for a page with minimal images and wiki formatting. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 00:11, July 26, 2022 (EDT)

I still don't think the quote quantity or quality is an issue, but that's a bigger issue for another time. As for the favored and favorite courses page, that honestly should have had a tiny bit of discussion on the idea before it happened but regardless I think that's not comparable to this; not only was that page more than twice the size of this one, but it was chock full of images, templates, parameters, and coding jam-packed into every piece of it. This page is just bulleted text. User:Somethingone/sig 10:28, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

There was discussion going on in our forums about these huge pages[1] and possibly our Discord, but yeah to be fair, not every editor uses these two (though I do recommend at least checking them every now and then). I do think the Tour page is on a way worse situation, but I maintain it's a considered a list too and I try to challenge the idea that lists are exempt from page splits. This is a simpler bulleted list, but it can still benefit from a split in my opinion. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 22:17, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

I think the whole issue of quotes pages in general warrants some scrutiny. I've always found them bloated. The problem is that we don't really have any policy regarding quotes pages, so people just kinda document every little quote, no matter how insignificant it is. Is "What's that?" really worth noting? Not really. Granted, restricting the quotes pages to only "notable" or "illustrative" quotes does introduce some subjectivity, but if we don't draw a line somewhere, then we might as well just have full on script dumps, since the quotes pages as-is aren't far off from that. 01:02, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

I suppose for more coherent interjections, it doesn't hurt to have them all, but as with our screenshots and whatnot, it's worth picking out some illustrative quotes and discarding the rest. We certainly should remove "What's that?", and "This will be the last time those pinhead plumbers throw a monkey wrench into MY evil plans!" can stay. It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 00:32, August 3, 2022 (EDT)

Determine what quotes by Toad, Princess Toadstool, and King Koopa to split into own pages

This talk page proposal has already been settled. Please do not edit this section or its subsections. If you wish to discuss the article, please do so in a new section below the proposal.

This proposal aims to split sections about respective The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! quotes by Toad, Princess Toadstool, and King Koopa into their own pages. Rumor has it that we have not only the page for quotes by Mario, but also the page for quotes for Luigi. However, there seems to be something we're missing—quotes by King Koopa are found in the section from the page here and quotes by Princess Toadstool and Toad are found in the respective sections from the page there. Since Princess Toadstool, Toad, and King Koopa are the main characters of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!, I propose that we split not only the King Koopa section from the A–K page, but also the Princess Toadstool and Toad sections from the L–Z page, into their own pages:

• List of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! quotes by King Koopa
• List of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! quotes by Princess Toadstool
• List of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! quotes by Toad

Take a look at my drafts:

• List of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! quotes by King Koopa
• List of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! quotes by Princess Toadstool
• List of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! quotes by Toad

There are three yes-or-no questions that you can answer.

Proposer: GuntherBayBeee (talk)

Can King Koopa's quotes have their own page?

Give King Koopa's quotes their own page 7-0
Deadline: November 13, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Yes

1. GuntherBayBeee (talk) Per proposal.
2. Ihavenoideaboyo (talk) Per proposal.
3. Camwoodstock (talk) While the quotes only sum up to about 63k bytes, putting it behind in terms of the recommended byte size for a split we do think this is a case where a split just for the sake of logistics and navigation makes sense. Much like the absolutely gargantuan contents section that List of references in third-party video games had prior to its split, King Koopa has a whole 51 subsections to his name! Which is to be expected, since he holds a speaking role in almost every episode. For reference, the second largest section on his page, the one for Koopa Troopas, has only 12 subsections. (In general, we'd be interested in something that states where a split can be warranted if the number of subsections start to noticeably distort the page, and this is a good stepping stone to something like that.)
4. Rykitu (talk) Per all.
5. Killer Moth (talk) Per all.
6. Maw-Ray Master (talk) Per all.
7. Martendo (talk) Per proposal.

No

Can Princess Toadstool's quotes have their own page?

Give Princess Toadstool's quotes their own page 7-0
Deadline: November 13, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Yes

1. GuntherBayBeee (talk) Per proposal.
2. Ihavenoideaboyo (talk) Per proposal.
3. Camwoodstock (talk) Per our reasoning for King Koopa, and yet somehow even moreso; while her page only amounts to 35k bytes, in Toadstool's case, she has 52 subsections--one more than King Koopa himself! The only character to rival her (or Toad) on their page is Mouser, at "just" 21 sections.
4. Rykitu (talk) Per all.
5. Killer Moth (talk) Per all.
6. Maw-Ray Master (talk) Per all.
7. Martendo (talk) Per proposal.

No

Can Toad's quotes have their own page?

Give Toad's quotes their own page 7-0
Deadline: November 13, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Yes

1. GuntherBayBeee (talk) Per proposal.
2. Ihavenoideaboyo (talk) Per proposal.
3. Camwoodstock (talk) Per our reasoning for King Koopa and Princess Toadstool. He's only got 32k bytes, but that carries 51 subsections (the same as King Koopa), and on the same page as Princess Toadstool, no less. The poor Table of Contents stands no chance against these two, and something has to be done about this, we'd reckon.
4. Rykitu (talk) Per all.
5. Killer Moth (talk) Per all.
6. Maw-Ray Master (talk) Per all.
7. Martendo (talk) Per proposal.

No