Talk:Super Smash Bros. Ultimate sound test
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Giga Bowser[edit]
I'm gonna be honest, listing the Giga Bowser song on these articles irks me a bit. The sole reason we are including it in these sound test articles (applying this to both Brawl and Smash 4) is because it's affiliated with Bowser, but my issues stems from the fact that A. it's an altered variation of a Super Smash Bros. song, being Melee's version of Final Destination, meaning it's not really a Mario series song and B. while Giga Bowser is a transformation of Bowser, the transformation itself is still considered a Super Smash Bros. entity. I'm kinda against the idea of these articles having a devoted Super Smash Bros. section for one song that isn't even a Mario series song to begin with and is only there by affiliation with a Mario character whose context as a whole isn't technically Mario related. I know this may sound weird coming from someone who genuinely supports the idea of having Smash coverage (and I'd rather just overturn the proposal that removed these lists, but that's not the point), my main point is that we really shouldn't list Giga Bowser under these articles if we're aiming to keep it Mario focused, as Giga Bowser is not a Mario song by any means, just a Smash song variation that plays for a Smash transformation of a Mario character. The reason I don't say the same about any "others" section is because we cover stuff like Wrecking Crew and that one retro medley has a Mario song in it.
Tails777 Talk to me!
- I'm irked by its inclusion as well. Unless someone can give a compelling counterargument, I'd support removing it. SolemnStormcloud (talk) 22:24, October 4, 2024 (EDT)
Electroplankton Remix[edit]
Since the remix of Electroplankton has an arrangement of Invincibility BGM should it be added?OngoingTalent13 (talk) 00:13, December 23, 2025 (EST)
Proposal: Add music types to track tables[edit]
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Current time: February 19, 2026, 01:19 (UTC)
The "My Music" menu in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate includes 2 tags added onto its music track to distinguish them from the tracks reused from the original games:
- A Blue "Remix" tag for returning arrangements from previous Super Smash Bros. games
- A Pink "New Remix" tag for new arrangements introduced in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
I feel as though it would be useful to review these tags and add them to the existing tables, as currently there is minimal distinction from the tracks reused from the original games and new arrangements, with the existing distinctions being whether the music link leads to the full page or a Super Smash Bros. Ultimate subsection, or if it includes credits or not (such as "Ground Theme - Super Mario Bros. 2" (SSBU Remix VS SMB2 Original) and "Slide" (SSB 3DS/Wii U Remix VS SM64 Original) both having identical names). While reused arrangements do already have distinction from their source SSB game (using footnotes), this could be simplified to keeping this information on the table- both for quicker reference and to reduce the size of the footnotes section.
Here is an example of the first few entries of the Mario section with this new format, also specifying origins for reused Smash Bros. arrangements:
| Track | Source | Type | Credits[A] |
|---|---|---|---|
| Ground Theme - Super Mario Bros. | Super Mario Bros. | Original | No additional credits. |
| Ground Theme - Super Mario Bros. (64) | Super Mario Bros. | Remix (64) | Arrangement Supervisor: Hirokazu Ando / Composition: Nintendo / Arrangement: HAL Laboratory, Inc. |
| Ground Theme - Super Mario Bros. (Melee) | Super Mario Bros. | Remix (Melee) | Arrangement Supervisor: Shogo Sakai / Composition: Nintendo / Arrangement: HAL Laboratory, Inc. |
| Ground Theme - Super Mario Bros. (Brawl) | Super Mario Bros. | Remix (Brawl) | Arrangement Supervisor: Koji Kondo / Composition: Nintendo / Arrangement: Nintendo |
| Ground Theme (Band Performance) - Super Mario Bros. | Super Mario Bros. / Super Mario Odyssey | New Remix | No additional credits. |
| Ground Theme / Underground Theme - Super Mario Bros. | Super Mario Bros. | Remix (3DS / Wii U) | Arrangement Supervisor: Tetsuya Shibata / Composition: Nintendo / Arrangement: Unique Note Co., Ltd. |
| ... | |||
| Ground Theme - Super Mario Bros. 2 | Super Mario Bros. 2 | New Remix | Arrangement Supervisor: Keiichi Okabe / Composition: Nintendo / Arrangement: MONACA |
| Ground Theme - Super Mario Bros. 2 | Super Mario Bros. 2 | Original | No additional credits. |
- ^ All track credits also have a notice that says "Composition and arrangement Copyright Nintendo" except Mona Pizza's Song / Mona Pizza's Song (JP), which have both "Composition Copyright Nintendo / INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS" and "Arrangement Copyright Nintendo" and Electroplankton which has "Composition Copyright Toshio Iwai / Nintendo" and "Arrangement Copyright Nintendo".
And a smaller example for the footnote option:
| Track | Source | Type | Credits[A] |
|---|---|---|---|
| Main Theme - Luigi's Mansion | Luigi's Mansion | New Remix | Arrangement Supervisor: Maasa Miyoshi / Composition: Nintendo / Next Level Games Inc. / Arrangement: Nintendo |
| ... | |||
| On the Hunt - Gloomy Manor Ver. (Instrumental) | Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon | Original | No additional credits. |
| Mario Bros. | Mario Bros. | Remix[B] | Arrangement Supervisor: Shogo Sakai / Composition: Nintendo / Arrangement: HAL Laboratory, Inc. |
| Fever | Dr. Mario | Remix[C] | Arrangement Supervisor: Shogo Sakai / Composition: Nintendo / Arrangement: HAL Laboratory, Inc. |
| Chill (Brawl) | Dr. Mario | Remix[B] | Arrangement: Masaaki Iwasaki / Composition: Nintendo |
| Chill (for 3DS / Wii U) | Dr. Mario | Remix[D] | Arrangement: Hirokazu Tanaka. ex / Composition: Nintendo |
- ^ All track credits also have a notice that says "Composition and arrangement Copyright Nintendo" except Mona Pizza's Song / Mona Pizza's Song (JP), which have both "Composition Copyright Nintendo / INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS" and "Arrangement Copyright Nintendo" and Electroplankton which has "Composition Copyright Toshio Iwai / Nintendo" and "Arrangement Copyright Nintendo".
- ^ a b Arrangement originating from Super Smash Bros. Brawl
- ^ Arrangement originating from Super Smash Bros. Melee
- ^ Arrangement originating from Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
Proposer: The Eggo55 (talk)
Deadline: February 27, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
Option 1: Add new column to specify track type and specify origin Smash Bros. game for past remixes in the table[edit]
- The Eggo55 (talk) Per proposal.
- Tails777 (talk) I honestly don't see an issue with this idea. It's not like it's adding too much to make things messy or adding anything irrelevant, it's just adding some extra info on a song's origin. I'd almost argue such thing doesn't need a proposal, but hey, always best to see what others think first.
Option 2: Add new column to specify track type, keep footnotes for past remixes[edit]
- Hewer (talk) Per proposal, prefer this option since it's a bit clearer (a reader might be confused by "Remix (64)" with no further context) as well as being more accurate to the in-game sound test.
- Altendo (New Remix) I feel like this is the better option, not only for consistency with how the arrangements are presented in-game, but also because songs with multiple arrangements across Smash already have identifiers with the arrangement's game of origin, making adding one to the arrangement section mostly redundant. As for one-time arrangements, that's what the footnotes exist for; it's not required to look at the table and understand both Ultimate arrangements as well as songs with multiple arrangements across the series, but it could still be useful for previous one-time arrangements.
- The Dab Master (for 3DS / Wii U) Per all.
Option 3: Do nothing; keep page as is[edit]
Comments[edit]
I honestly see no problem with this idea, though couldn't this also apply to Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U, which also denotes new and past arrangements with a red and grey "Remix" tag respectively?
Tails777 Talk to me!
- I don't see why not. I never played Smash 4 so I didn't know that this system originated from there, but I wouldn't be opposed to adding it there too if this passes. The Eggo55 (talk) 00:47, February 14, 2026 (UTC)
@The Eggo55 This might sound unrelated, but I think that in the latter case, if a remix only debuted in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U instead of being in both versions, it should be noted instead of just slapping both games in the footnotes, which is especially true because it calls them "Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Super Smash Bros. for Wii U", making the second half seem unfaithful to how the games are collectively called, as well as making it seem like a remix appeared in both games. I think there should be a separate footnote for Wii U exclusive remixes, on top of remixes that appeared in both games. And yes, the hard work has already been done for us, and this same source shows that Nintendo 3DS doesn't have any exclusive remixes that didn't also appear in previous games or weren't brought to Wii U through updates. [[c:a:t:s|Altendo]] 00:48, February 18, 2026 (UTC)
- I kind of figured that was the idea and was kind of implied, but I wasn't sure which tracks - if any - would be from one specific release. I didn't do much additional research beyond the specific tracks I listed in the example (and even then, I wasn't even looking for the specific games to be frank). I would also personally rather source the games themselves than a video. The Eggo55 (talk) 18:32, February 18, 2026 (UTC)
- I don't recall stating sourcing the video for individual tracks. I only brought that up to fast-track separating which remixes appeared in both Super Smash Bros for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U and those that were only in Wii U. That video was in turn sourced from SmashWiki, which in turn was sourced from the games. So yeah, I don't think we should source the video. I still think that we should separate tracks depending on whether they appeared in both games or only Wii U, though.
[[c:a:t:s|Altendo]]00:31, February 19, 2026 (UTC)
- I don't recall stating sourcing the video for individual tracks. I only brought that up to fast-track separating which remixes appeared in both Super Smash Bros for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U and those that were only in Wii U. That video was in turn sourced from SmashWiki, which in turn was sourced from the games. So yeah, I don't think we should source the video. I still think that we should separate tracks depending on whether they appeared in both games or only Wii U, though.