Talk:Smooch (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)

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I'm pretty sure that this article and PM1's Smooch article could be merged. We'd just need different sections. It seems kind of a waste to have two different articles for two moves that are basically 99% the same.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by LoneArcher (talk).

Merge?

Could this be merged to Smooch (Paper Mario)? Both moves have the same name in English and Japanese and the same functionality (an assisting character kisses Mario to heal him). Besides some minutiae, like PM Smooch not having an action command because it's a Star Spirit power, they're pretty clearly meant to be the same. Bomb, Shell Toss, Headbonk, Tattle, and Power Shell are merged as well. Scrooge200 (talk) 21:55, June 23, 2024 (EDT)

The thing is, those other examples are partner moves in both appearances, while this is a case of a special move vs a partner move. I think they should just stay split. Technetium (talk) 13:26, October 3, 2024 (EDT)

I will add that the Japanese name, "Sister's Kiss" seems a bit random in the context of Ms. Mowz (even considering that "sister" isn't meant to be taken literally), but makes more sense in the context of Misstar, whose Japanese name references the same word for "sister". Blinker (talk) 15:42, March 4, 2025 (EST)

Merge Smooch (Paper Mario) and Smooch (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)

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Merge 6-0
See the discussions above. It makes sense to merge the moves since they function similarly and share a name in both English and Japanese. The Japanese name staying the same in TTYD despite the sister theming not fitting Ms. Mowz could possibly be evidence that these moves were intended to be the same. Merging them would also allow for a Smooch article with no identifier needed. The only issue is that Smooch is a special move in PM64 but a normal move in TTYD, an important distinction that needs to be made clear.

Proposer: Technetium (talk)
Deadline: June 25, 2025, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. Technetium (talk) I must've been shot by Cupid's arrow or something because I've turned around on this idea since last year and would love a merge. My main concern was the special move vs partner move inconsistency, but if we explain this difference clearly in the article there shouldn't be any confusion.
2. Camwoodstock (talk) Makes sense to us. So long as we explain the distinctions (and we already have a good reason to, since the move in PM64 lacks an action command whereas the one in TTYD has one), it shouldn't be a problem.
3. Sorbetti (talk) Per sense?
4. Blinker (talk) Per proposal.
5. Rykitu refuses to create a joke name for this proposal (talk) Per all.
6. Pingouinsandwich (talk) Per proposal.

Comments (I didn't have any good ideas for kissing jokes)

Yeah, plus PM Smooch restores 20 Health and TTYD Smooch does 10. Can't forget that, either. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 07:32, June 12, 2025 (EDT)

Don't think that matters much when Bomb (Paper Mario series) differs too. And the substantial difference here is just an extension of one being a Star Spirit power I'd say. Technetium (talk) 07:51, June 12, 2025 (EDT)