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::::::::::The major reason why I'm asking for an official statement is because of Rocky Wrench's redesign, making it now resemble a Monty Mole. It may share a name and design ''now'', but that wasn't always the case. I'm looking, but I'm not finding a statement, so until one is provided or I find one on my own, we're at an impasse. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 23:19, 17 April 2018 (EDT) | ::::::::::The major reason why I'm asking for an official statement is because of Rocky Wrench's redesign, making it now resemble a Monty Mole. It may share a name and design ''now'', but that wasn't always the case. I'm looking, but I'm not finding a statement, so until one is provided or I find one on my own, we're at an impasse. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 23:19, 17 April 2018 (EDT) | ||
:::::::::::{{media link|Rocky wrench.jpg|Slight}} {{media link|SMBD page 60.png|resemblance}} from the get-go. And certainly moreso than Goomba snd Galoomba, they weren't even shaped or colored the same. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:22, 17 April 2018 (EDT) | :::::::::::{{media link|Rocky wrench.jpg|Slight}} {{media link|SMBD page 60.png|resemblance}} from the get-go. And certainly moreso than Goomba snd Galoomba, they weren't even shaped or colored the same. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:22, 17 April 2018 (EDT) | ||
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Re: Arms/Tentacles
In cephalopods, "tentacle" refers solely to the paired long appendages on squid that have a leaf-shaped area with spikes or suction cups on the ends of a long, cupless line. "Arm" refers to the shorter, triangular appendages with suction cups covering the entire bottom side that all cephalopods have. Octopuses have 8 arms and 0 tentacles, and squid have 8 or 10 arms, depending on exact species, and 2 tentacles. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:31, 11 April 2018 (EDT)
MVDK Last Two Expert Levels
I saw you were having a little trouble with the last two expert levels in Mario vs. Donkey Kong. I don't own the game myself, but did you complete the first ten expert levels (collect all presents and beat all high scores)? If not, perhaps that might be the reason they weren't unlocked. LuigiMaster123 00:53, 13 April 2018 (EDT)
- Yeah, I haven't beaten any of the Expert levels yet, so that may be it. I'm dumb and forgot there were Presents in those levels, so collecting all Presents could still be a requirement. Doesn't look like there are any high scores to beat, though, so that's good! 11:09, 13 April 2018 (EDT)
Grrrols
Grrrols and Thwomps are strikingly similar when placed side-by-side..... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:40, 13 April 2018 (EDT)
Level images
I don't think the level selection screenshots are better. I expressly chose screenshots that encapsulate the basic elements and atmosphere of their worlds; the screenshot on the right, for example, has hanging chains, lava, and flame-throwing Shy Guys, just what's highly representative for Fire Mountain and gives the player a direct idea about it. Besides, the level menus look repetitive to me, and the article really should show more of the game itself. I hope you understand. -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 15:42, 14 April 2018 (EDT)
- I'll let you do it, but if you had a certain idea in mind, let me know! -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 15:52, 14 April 2018 (EDT)
Re: TPP formatting
I knew I copied the TPP formatting correctly! The template was just missing a vital part, {{TPP}}. Could you update MarioWiki:Proposals (and any relevant pages) with a guide as follows (with <pre> tags:)
===[enter the proposal title here]=== {{TPP}} [describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue] '''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br> '''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "August 8, 2011, 23:59 GMT"] ====Support==== #{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal] ====Oppose==== ====Comments====
--The Retro Gamer 01:01, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
- Also, why are all the times in GMT? Isn't EDT the wiki default? --The Retro Gamer 01:03, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
Rocky Wrench
Why can a sea slug be derived from a bat and an alien octopus be derived from a shiitake it looks nothing like, but a mole cannot be derived from the turtle/mole that now seems to be just mole that it was named after and that came before it? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 13:31, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- Who knows. 14:21, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- The point is if it works for all of them, it should work here too, otherwise there's arbitrariness going on. As Link-The-Lefty pointed out, Choropoo seems to mean "Poo that darts around" (as stupid as that sounds in English...) Hence, it is named to be a specific variation of Poo, and variations of previous things are, by definition, derivative. Hence, Monty Mole is derivative of Rocky Wrench, according to official nomenclature, and saying otherwise is defying said official nomenclature. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:20, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- I've rebutted your expanded response, which hilariously enough seems to have used my own words. Anyways, your response still seems to hinge on "derived" being biological, which it is not. It means "based upon." The designers were pretty obviously going for a variant thereof, a thing that players would connect to a thing they'd seen before, as the name doesn't just hint, but ultimately proves beyond any doubt at all. The name Choropoo is basically "Scuttling Rocky Wrench." And the current infobox layout says that "Rocky Wrench" was initially based off of the "Scuttling Rocky Wrench" which came three years later, which makes no sense whatsoever. EDIT: And I see you responded. As have I, as have I. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:09, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- I agree that there is definitely some confliction of information here, or lack of information altogether, but I don't believe a proposal was the right course of action here without any real definitive proof to back the claim. As I said, the Japanese name is a start, but I don't think it is enough to solidify anything. If there is an official bio somewhere, Japanese or English or otherwise, then that would be enough. 22:14, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- I'd say there's about as much as Buzzy Beetle and Magmus. One's a turtle, the other's some sort of rock thing (that appears to have eight feet, take that SMW Spike Top!) that has a Japanese name that says it's a Buzzy. They also tend to be listed together, like on that Japanese SM3DL .pdf, where Choropoo, Goropoo, and Poo were all listed together (with Poo additionally being away from the main Kame on the list, Nokonoko). Then there's the fact that they share models in all recent 3D games featuring both... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:21, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- Do you have a link to the Japanese 3D Land pdf? That might be something to look into. 22:23, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- I've posted it a few times. I misremembered something too: Rocky is fairly well distanced from five Koopas, which are on the opposite page; Spiny is the only "close" one. Anyways, I've checked, and the word "Choropoo" never comes up in Poo's description, so it's probably not a variant of it...anyways, here it is again: [1] Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:26, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- So Mario jc translated it for me (because I suck at Japanese :P) and yeah, the two don't reference each other. The names are similar, as are the appearances of the two, but I would still prefer some kind of official statement between the relations. 22:59, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- Y'all might be askin' a tad much, there. Pretty sure there's no official statement regarding this enemy's relation to this one, this one, or this one, but it's pretty obviously there. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:14, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- The major reason why I'm asking for an official statement is because of Rocky Wrench's redesign, making it now resemble a Monty Mole. It may share a name and design now, but that wasn't always the case. I'm looking, but I'm not finding a statement, so until one is provided or I find one on my own, we're at an impasse. 23:19, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- Slight resemblance from the get-go. And certainly moreso than Goomba snd Galoomba, they weren't even shaped or colored the same. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:22, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- The major reason why I'm asking for an official statement is because of Rocky Wrench's redesign, making it now resemble a Monty Mole. It may share a name and design now, but that wasn't always the case. I'm looking, but I'm not finding a statement, so until one is provided or I find one on my own, we're at an impasse. 23:19, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- Y'all might be askin' a tad much, there. Pretty sure there's no official statement regarding this enemy's relation to this one, this one, or this one, but it's pretty obviously there. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:14, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- So Mario jc translated it for me (because I suck at Japanese :P) and yeah, the two don't reference each other. The names are similar, as are the appearances of the two, but I would still prefer some kind of official statement between the relations. 22:59, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- I've posted it a few times. I misremembered something too: Rocky is fairly well distanced from five Koopas, which are on the opposite page; Spiny is the only "close" one. Anyways, I've checked, and the word "Choropoo" never comes up in Poo's description, so it's probably not a variant of it...anyways, here it is again: [1] Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:26, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- Do you have a link to the Japanese 3D Land pdf? That might be something to look into. 22:23, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- I'd say there's about as much as Buzzy Beetle and Magmus. One's a turtle, the other's some sort of rock thing (that appears to have eight feet, take that SMW Spike Top!) that has a Japanese name that says it's a Buzzy. They also tend to be listed together, like on that Japanese SM3DL .pdf, where Choropoo, Goropoo, and Poo were all listed together (with Poo additionally being away from the main Kame on the list, Nokonoko). Then there's the fact that they share models in all recent 3D games featuring both... Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:21, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- I agree that there is definitely some confliction of information here, or lack of information altogether, but I don't believe a proposal was the right course of action here without any real definitive proof to back the claim. As I said, the Japanese name is a start, but I don't think it is enough to solidify anything. If there is an official bio somewhere, Japanese or English or otherwise, then that would be enough. 22:14, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- I've rebutted your expanded response, which hilariously enough seems to have used my own words. Anyways, your response still seems to hinge on "derived" being biological, which it is not. It means "based upon." The designers were pretty obviously going for a variant thereof, a thing that players would connect to a thing they'd seen before, as the name doesn't just hint, but ultimately proves beyond any doubt at all. The name Choropoo is basically "Scuttling Rocky Wrench." And the current infobox layout says that "Rocky Wrench" was initially based off of the "Scuttling Rocky Wrench" which came three years later, which makes no sense whatsoever. EDIT: And I see you responded. As have I, as have I. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:09, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
- The point is if it works for all of them, it should work here too, otherwise there's arbitrariness going on. As Link-The-Lefty pointed out, Choropoo seems to mean "Poo that darts around" (as stupid as that sounds in English...) Hence, it is named to be a specific variation of Poo, and variations of previous things are, by definition, derivative. Hence, Monty Mole is derivative of Rocky Wrench, according to official nomenclature, and saying otherwise is defying said official nomenclature. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:20, 17 April 2018 (EDT)
Birthday
I know this isn't a question, but I was looking at your userbox and noticed your birthday is today, so Happy Birthday! Sincerely,