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Invalid vote?
Hi, I know Ghost Jam's vote on this proposal I initiated used to be valid due to it being rushed out and having an overflow of options as a result at the time, but now it's not since I learned from some of my mistakes and changed it again to just featuring three options. Is it okay if I just go ahead and strike through it? 
(T|C) 22:34, 22 December 2018 (EST)
- You should message Ghost Jam.
22:35, 22 December 2018 (EST)
- I'll try messaging him using a copy-paste of the above message, but I thought I might talk to you first since he isn't that active anymore. I mean, since you're an admin, I'm fairly certain you could start a discussion on whether to remove the vote or not, as per rule 5 of proposals. (T|C) 22:41, 22 December 2018 (EST)
- Rules say you are to message the voter. He's active, so he should see your message soon. Otherwise, I'll ping him on Discord later. 22:47, 22 December 2018 (EST)
- Rules say you are to message the voter. He's active, so he should see your message soon. Otherwise, I'll ping him on Discord later.
- I'll try messaging him using a copy-paste of the above message, but I thought I might talk to you first since he isn't that active anymore. I mean, since you're an admin, I'm fairly certain you could start a discussion on whether to remove the vote or not, as per rule 5 of proposals.
How Do You Do It?
Just out of curiosity, how do you keep track of the recent changes on this wiki? Dwhitney (talk) 22:40, 23 December 2018 (EST)
- Special:RecentChanges. 22:51, 23 December 2018 (EST)
How do you track down a blocked user who edits under a different username? Dwhitney (talk) 19:15, 26 December 2018 (EST)
- Staff members have a way to check user IP addresses. If there's a match with a blocked user, action will be taken. But IPs can be dynamic, so it may not be 100% accurate. 19:16, 26 December 2018 (EST)
After I suggested you track down the user who added "Green Yoshi" to the Yoshi article, I was surprised to see you respond with that revision (which was done in 2008). How were you able to do that in a short amount of time? Dwhitney (talk) 20:47, 29 December 2018 (EST)
- I went to the page history and checked the 200th (bottom-most) revision on each page, then moved on to the next 200th. When the "Green Yoshi" name disappeared, I knew it was within that specific 200 number range, so I checked the 100th edit on that page and narrowed it down from there. 20:50, 29 December 2018 (EST)
Apparently, you admins pay attention to what we normal users add in these articles before we even save the changes. How's that possible? Dwhitney (talk) 22:58, 10 January 2019 (EST)
- Uh, we can't? Changes can't be seen until they are saved, admin or not. 23:00, 10 January 2019 (EST)
Here's what I mean: When I tried to save my changes to the Donkey Kong Jr. (G&W) article after adding a bunch of content about the Modern version, a message saying that someone else edited the page appeared, and I found out that the one who did it was Doc von Schmeltwick, who said in his edit summary that he was pretty sure I meant another Mario character (in particular, a gull instead of an albatross). How was he able to do that when my changes weren't saved yet? Dwhitney (talk) 23:30, 10 January 2019 (EST)
- Oh, that is an edit confliction. It means someone has edited the page while doing so yourself, and beat you to the save, but what they saved conflicts with the information you were going to put in. 00:28, 11 January 2019 (EST)
Better Image
If I find a better image of something and want to upload it on one of these wiki pages, and I allowed to delete the old image? Dwhitney (talk) 00:30, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- You can't delete an image yourself, but you can mark the old image for deletion. If it's the same extension, just overwrite it using the "Upload a new version" button below the image history. 00:35, 24 December 2018 (EST)
The image in the infobox on the Lion article is a little blurry, and it looks as if the image I wanted to upload is already on that image's file page. If I were to click "revert" next to that image in the table, what would happen? Dwhitney (talk) 19:01, March 21, 2019 (EDT)
- Clicking "revert" would bring up the option to include a reason and a button to save the reversion. It won't revert automatically, if that's what you're wondering. 19:04, March 21, 2019 (EDT)
The image I think should be the thumbnail is the one from 11:04, December 30, 2018. Is there any way to put a previous version of an image on an article? Dwhitney (talk) 19:30, March 21, 2019 (EDT)
- A url link to the direct revision would work I think, but it wouldn't look very good in the coding and isn't very adjustable. Should just be reverted to a better image, pressing Ctrl + F5 to refresh the page so it loads correctly. 19:34, March 21, 2019 (EDT)
- You already reverted the image to its older higher quality version, so the older version of the image that you are talking about is automatically on the page; the file always uses its latest version, which includes if its newer version is it being reverted to an older version. Doomhiker (talk)
19:34, March 21, 2019 (EDT)
- You already reverted the image to its older higher quality version, so the older version of the image that you are talking about is automatically on the page; the file always uses its latest version, which includes if its newer version is it being reverted to an older version. Doomhiker (talk)
Reverted Edits
You told me not to remove a comma in a list of more than two items in a sentence. I don't think I did. In the sentence "Yoshi's initial design is more dinosaur-like, with a narrower, longer, more hunched appearance, and shorter arms," I previously removed the comma after "appearance" because the sentence really has only two subjects in the second phrase: "appearance" and "arms." The phrase "a narrower, longer, more hunched" describes "appearance," while "shorter" describes "arms." The former has commas separating interchangeable adjectives, while the latter has only one adjective. As such, I don't think a comma should be after "appearance." Please let me know if you agree.
Also, I'm not trying to argue about one of my edits you reverted (in particular, "Yoshi Egg"), but before I lowercased "Egg" in "Yoshi Egg," I went to this wiki's Yoshi Egg article to be sure. In the very first sentence of the article and in most of the article, it was spelled "Yoshi egg." If "Egg" in the phrase needs to be capitalized, are the "Yoshi egg"s in the "Yoshi Egg" article typos? Dwhitney (talk) 11:35, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- I agree with the comma removal.
- First instance of Yoshi Egg and in the page title is a proper noun. I don't think usages of "Yoshi egg" in the article are incorrect, that's likely what they were called in those games. The most recent spelling is "Yoshi Egg", but the article may need to be double-checked. 11:42, 24 December 2018 (EST)
You changed the full name of Bowser Jr. from "Prince Bowser Koopa Junior" to "Bowser Junior" on the basis that it isn't stated in game. In both Super Smash Brothers for Wii U/3ds and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, Bowser Jr. is referred to as "Prince of the Koopas" which is where the "Prince" comes from. His surname was taken from Bowser's page as was the formatting of his title. Due to this, I believe that his full name should be changed to "Prince Bowser Koopa Junior."
- "Prince Bowser Koopa Junior" is not actually used in a game as his name, iirc. Doesn't matter about the speculation or theory. "Prince of the Koopas" is a title rather than a name. 20:35, 2 January 2019 (EST)
Mario Riddle
Here's a Mario riddle I came up with. Luigi walks to Princess Peach's castle, looking for Mario. When Luigi arrives, he doesn't find Mario there. Luigi enters the castle and searches a number of rooms for him, but he doesn't find him. Afterwards, Luigi walks into the hall and sees Mario in the distance, complete with his red cap, long-sleeved red shirt, blue overalls with yellow buttons, white gloves, brown shoes, and mustache. Luigi calls to Mario but gets no response. Confused, Luigi walks up to him to make sure he's okay. Upon closer inspection, however, Luigi realizes that it's not the real Mario. How did he know? (Hint: He knew this without touching Mario) Dwhitney (talk) 13:48, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- I'm stumped. 14:07, 24 December 2018 (EST)
Answer: Luigi saw that the red cap didn't have an "M" on it. Dwhitney (talk) 14:25, 24 December 2018 (EST)
Does the answer make sense? Dwhitney (talk) 15:10, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- Yeah, just wasn't able to get to that answer. 15:12, 24 December 2018 (EST)
Game content
On this wiki's Rain Shower article, it says that Bowser throws paint balloons; in the rules of the game from Game & Watch Gallery 4, it says that he throws water balloons. They do look like paint balloons, but are they paint balloons or water balloons? Dwhitney (talk) 15:09, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- If the game doesn't say anything about paint balloons, then yeah, make the change. 15:12, 24 December 2018 (EST)
Which is better: "...the player gets rewarded a bonus dependent on how many unbroken eggs are on the field..." or "...the player gets rewarded a bonus depending on how many unbroken eggs are on the field..."? Dwhitney (talk) 21:35, 7 January 2019 (EST)
- Probably the second one. 00:10, 8 January 2019 (EST)
I'm trying to think of a word that describes the character Dynamite Jack from Bomb Sweeper, instead of just a "character." "Villain," "bad guy," "criminal," and "bandit" don't sound right. What word would you suggest sounds best for describing him? Dwhitney (talk) 22:37, 14 January 2019 (EST)
- I'm pretty sure there's a word out there that means "person who makes bombs", but I Google is unhelpful. "Character" or "villain" fits just fine, but maybe "crook" could work? 00:26, 15 January 2019 (EST)
According to a Nintendo wiki powered by FANDOM, the G&W game Tropical Fish was never released in Japan. But there's no link next to that info to prove it. Can you prove that that info is true? Dwhitney (talk) 13:11, 17 January 2019 (EST)
The Nintendo wiki says the same for Bomb Sweeper, Safe Buster, and Climber. But there are no links to prove it. Dwhitney (talk) 13:22, 17 January 2019 (EST)
- Actually, we have the links on their pages already! The external link listed shows that the games were manufactured in Japan, but sales were only in USA and Europe. The Japan information should probably be removed. 13:23, 17 January 2019 (EST)
I found a self-explanatory word for describing Dynamite Jack: "bomber." Dwhitney (talk) 15:22, 19 January 2019 (EST)
I'm not sure if a case like this has happened on this wiki, but I'm curious about what the solution should be. Let's say I see an error about the gameplay of a game in an article and correct it. Another normal user reverts my edit, saying I'm wrong. I go back to the article, re-correct the mistake, and say in my edit summary where I found the information. But the same user reverts my edit again, still disagreeing with it. I correct the content again and provide the link as to where I found the information in my edit summary, but yet again, the same user reverts my edit. As a final try, I post the proof of the gameplay I saw and the link to it on that user's talk page and explain it as best I can, but the user still doesn't believe me. I know that my edit is correct, but the other user doesn't. If I want my correct edit to stay on the article, what should happen? Dwhitney (talk) 01:38, 22 January 2019 (EST)
- Reverting back to your edit with a source is the edit summary is fine, though it can also be added to the actual article. Continuing to edit war past that will result in both of you getting warned. If you tell them where you got your information and they don't believe you, continuing to edit war instead, you need to tell an admin if one hasn't already stepped in. 10:40, 22 January 2019 (EST)
Praise
The rules of this wiki say not to tell admins what to do. Does that mean that I'm not allowed to tell you to "keep up the good work"? Dwhitney (talk) 18:02, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- Nah, that's fine, but try not to fill up talk pages too much ;) 19:45, 24 December 2018 (EST)
I'm glad this wiki has people who decide if certain information is relevant and if certain users can be trusted to edit it. Dwhitney (talk) 00:00, 21 February 2019 (EST)
About BF and FD
Since you've moved the talk since I've gone on vacation, I have to start a new section. Anyways, in the "Smash!" section of SSBU, the game itself lists those stages (and Big Battlefield) at the beginning with the SSB stages, instead of at the end with the new stages. While it can be argued that this was for easiness for locating, they could have just as easily reversed the whole layout to have new stages first. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:44, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- I guess so, but they are Smash specific stages, not based on any other franchise. While, yes, the layouts don't change, the design is unique to each game, making the stage unique to each Smash.
- I really don't know what else to add, so we may just end up talking in circles. 22:47, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- My point is that the game itself is listing them with the Smash 64 stages, indicating that they are officially qualified as returning stages, from that game, and listing them as new each time is now officially wrong, and not just factually. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:49, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- They've been listed at the start since Brawl, it's just the order of the other stages that changed. Because of that, I don't see how the order of the other stages mean anything. 22:51, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- In SSBU, all the stages are listed chronologically by game. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:01, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- Again, doesn't mean anything. BF and FD weren't named or selectable in Smash 64, and Big BF certainly wasn't available then. 23:54, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- It's a variation of BF. Either way, whether it's selectable or not originally is far more pointless than the position on the SSBU stage select. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:59, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- I could ask people on SmashWiki what they think, or something should be said on Ultimate's talk page. I don't think we're going to solve anything with just the two of us. There's nothing that actually says they are new stages in text, but there's also nothing saying they're returning stages, either. That distinction would've been made in Brawl. 00:02, 25 December 2018 (EST)
- I could ask people on SmashWiki what they think, or something should be said on Ultimate's talk page. I don't think we're going to solve anything with just the two of us. There's nothing that actually says they are new stages in text, but there's also nothing saying they're returning stages, either. That distinction would've been made in Brawl.
- It's a variation of BF. Either way, whether it's selectable or not originally is far more pointless than the position on the SSBU stage select. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:59, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- Again, doesn't mean anything. BF and FD weren't named or selectable in Smash 64, and Big BF certainly wasn't available then.
- In SSBU, all the stages are listed chronologically by game. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 23:01, 24 December 2018 (EST)
- They've been listed at the start since Brawl, it's just the order of the other stages that changed. Because of that, I don't see how the order of the other stages mean anything.
- My point is that the game itself is listing them with the Smash 64 stages, indicating that they are officially qualified as returning stages, from that game, and listing them as new each time is now officially wrong, and not just factually. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 22:49, 24 December 2018 (EST)
Help Wanted: Rewriting Articles
I notice that some of these wiki articles have boxes requesting the articles be rewritten, apparently because of loaded information. Perhaps I could help with that if I knew which sections you recommend be rewritten. I think I'll start with the Yoshi article. Which sections in it need to be rewritten to meet the wiki's writing standards? Dwhitney (talk) 09:12, 25 December 2018 (EST)
- Well, "Green Yoshi" could use a citation. The Super Mario World Television Series and Fortune Street sections are specifically asking for a rewrite, though the latter is more of a stub (I could probably do something with that later). Otherwise, give each section a read and see what you can improve on. 11:25, 25 December 2018 (EST)
So far, I haven't any luck finding a citation for "Green Yoshi." Perhaps if you track down the user on this wiki who typed in the article that Yoshi is sometimes specified as Green Yoshi, I could ask that user where he or she found that information. Dwhitney (talk) 22:15, 25 December 2018 (EST)
- This was the revision that added it, but the user who added it is no longer active. Luckily though, according to his edit summary, it came from the Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island manual. So that's something! But a page number would be helpful, and whether or not it's referring to Yoshi or Green Yoshi. 22:26, 25 December 2018 (EST)
The green Yoshi is called "Yoshi" on page five in the Yoshi's Island instruction manual, and the phrase "The Green Yoshi" is mentioned on page six, according to the YouTube video "Super Mario World 2 Yoshi's Island - Game Manual (SNES) (Instruction Booklet)" uploaded by Game Instruction Manual Retro. Dwhitney (talk) 01:10, 26 December 2018 (EST)
- Awesome! 13:58, 26 December 2018 (EST)
I've read the Super Mario World TV series section on the Yoshi article, but I don't really see anything wrong with it. In what way do you want the section to be rewritten? Dwhitney (talk) 20:02, 26 December 2018 (EST)
- I'm not sure, I've only seen one or two of the episodes. Maybe it's asking for someone to check if there are any missing episodes with Yoshi? It says Yoshi appears in every episode, but I'm pretty sure there are more than what's listed (maybe). The list could maybe also be moved to something similar to List of Super Mario World episodes featuring Mario? 20:07, 26 December 2018 (EST)
On YouTube, there are only 13 episodes of the series, and Wikipedia also says that the show has only 13 episodes, along with seven Captain N ones. Dwhitney (talk) 20:22, 26 December 2018 (EST)
- Oh, then maybe just a grammar check. 20:27, 26 December 2018 (EST)
According to the Game & Watch Gallery 4's cast credits, the gulls are called Albatrosses, and the Gull article's title is conjectural. I think I'll change its title to "Albatross" based on that info. What do you think? Dwhitney (talk) 21:23, 19 January 2019 (EST)
- Albatross is a redirect, so that would work. But can I see a source of some kind? And just the G&W4 info should be on a new page, not the WL2 info. 21:44, 19 January 2019 (EST)
The only source I have for that info is the end of World of Longplays' YouTube video of Part 4 of 4 of Game & Watch Gallery 4. Dwhitney (talk) 21:54, 19 January 2019 (EST)
- Okay, that'll work as a reference. Noticed it also has its name listed under Fire. 22:03, 19 January 2019 (EST)
Should a new article be created for "Albatross" and the Gull content be moved to it, or can the Gull article be renamed? Dwhitney (talk) 22:13, 19 January 2019 (EST)
- Gull should not be renamed due to the Wario Land II content there. The information on Game & Watch Gallery 4 can be copied over to the Albatross redirect page and be made into an actual article. 22:20, 19 January 2019 (EST)
How would I merge the Gull article with the Albatross one? Dwhitney (talk) 01:43, 20 January 2019 (EST)
- Not sure. Discussion on its talk page should probably happen, as I have not played either of the games to be much help with this. 01:45, 20 January 2019 (EST)
Uploading Images
I'm trying to upload a better image of the Modern mode of the G&W game Parachute and an image of the Game & Watch Gallery 2 version of the game Donkey Kong. I copied the image address of each, typed in one of them in the URL address box on the "Upload file" page, correctly categorized it, and tried to upload it. The page said, "There was a problem during the HTTP request: 404 Not Found." I tried to upload the other image by repeating the above and got the same result. Do you have any idea what the message means? Dwhitney (talk) 15:30, 25 December 2018 (EST)
- What's the URL? 15:48, 25 December 2018 (EST)
The one for Parachute: 
The one for Donkey Kong: 
Dwhitney (talk) 16:08, 25 December 2018 (EST)
- Ah, the problem is the different file type. The images you are trying to replace are PNGs, but your replacements are JPGs. Honestly, best keep them PNGs. 16:09, 25 December 2018 (EST)
Are you saying I can't upload the images? Dwhitney (talk) 16:12, 25 December 2018 (EST)
- For one thing, the images aren't displaying for me for some reason, so I can't compare them :/ The images should remain as PNGs, there's nothing wrong with them currently. But if you can find a PNG replacement, that'd be fine. 16:14, 25 December 2018 (EST)
I succeeded in uploading an image of Parachute (though I'll probably replace it with one that shows the player's score) and am about to save changes to the Parachute article. Before I do, how do I mark the image I think should be deleted? Dwhitney (talk) 18:15, 25 December 2018 (EST)
- You mark something you wanted deleted with {{delete}} with an optional reason ({{delete|[[:File:Image.png|replaced]]}} for example). The image you uploaded is very large, though. Any chance you can find one that matches the original screen size? 18:18, 25 December 2018 (EST)
I typed in the size I believe the image should be on the article, and the preview page has it as that size. Dwhitney (talk) 18:22, 25 December 2018 (EST)
- No, I mean the actual image size should be as close to accurate as possible. 18:23, 25 December 2018 (EST)
I'll look for another image. Is there any way I can copy and paste an image address on my tablet if the only source of viewing the image is to go to the webpage, meaning I can view the image but not click on it to view its URL address? I found a smaller image but couldn't view its URL address. Dwhitney (talk) 18:35, 25 December 2018 (EST)
- I don't use a tablet, so I'm not sure. Usually, holding down on something will cause a menu to show, maybe with a "Copy image location" option. 18:37, 25 December 2018 (EST)
It actually worked! Thanks. I'll try to upload the image on the Parachute article, but do you think the Super Nintendo image should be on the article? Dwhitney (talk) 19:11, 25 December 2018 (EST)
- You're welcome, and yes. btw, you have to mark the image for deletion on its own page, not on the article it is placed on. 19:13, 25 December 2018 (EST)
What do you mean by a request for deleting an image should be on its own page? Dwhitney (talk) 19:22, 25 December 2018 (EST)
- Has to be on the file page, the page where you put the aboutfile and category information. The file itself. 19:24, 25 December 2018 (EST)
Do you mean in the summary on the "Upload file" page? Dwhitney (talk) 19:28, 25 December 2018 (EST)
- You can edit the file page after uploading it. 19:45, 25 December 2018 (EST)
I found some more G&W game screenshots that I'd like to upload, but I'm concerned that if I upload too many of them from a website, I'll get into trouble (as per the copyright box). Should I worry? Dwhitney (talk) 12:02, 28 December 2018 (EST)
- I don't think so, as long as they're good quality and you provide the source appropriately. What's the site? 12:28, 28 December 2018 (EST)
gamefaqs.gamespot.com Dwhitney (talk) 13:04, 28 December 2018 (EST)
Is it possible to upload images horizontally on an article instead of vertically? Dwhitney (talk) 13:51, 28 December 2018 (EST)
- That would be the {{multiple image}} template, like how it is on Turtle Bridge. 13:56, 28 December 2018 (EST)
Even though images can be resized in an article, why do you recommend not to upload very large images? Dwhitney (talk) 20:32, 29 December 2018 (EST)
- MarioWiki:Image use policy says game screenshots must be taken as close to the original hardware specifications as possible. This is meant to prevent blurs and stretches. 20:39, 29 December 2018 (EST)
Sometimes when I try to upload images, the page requests the file name be rewritten because it contains invalid characters, like "26%." Removing the invalid characters just makes the whole URL invalid, if I remember correctly. In cases like this, how do you rewrite a file name for an image you want to upload? Dwhitney (talk) 23:56, 16 January 2019 (EST)
The Game & Watch Gallery article has this under the "Character appearances" section: [[File:|thumb|right|Title screen]]. Is this a mistake that should be removed or an unfinished image filename? Dwhitney (talk) 19:54, 19 January 2019 (EST)
- For some reason, the rest of the filename was removed. I added it back. If something doesn't look right, it's a good idea to go looking through the history to see if an explanation can be found. 20:42, 19 January 2019 (EST)
Punctuation in Image Descriptions
When we tell who's in an image and what that character is doing in it o