Talk:Small Mario

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Should this be moved to "Big Mario" as "Small Mario" is the regular form after losing a mushroom so technically "Big Mario" would be the form with a mushroom. See how that works out? Marioguy1 (talk)

Never mind that, I think this article should be deleted as it represents just Mario. The forms articles are about Mario's different forms which are created due to power-ups this form does not even use a power-up. It is the result of losing a power-up which therefore makes it regular Mario. If you don't understand this here's the simplified version: Mario + Power-up = Power-up Mario. Power-up Mario - Power-up = Small Mario? I don't think so, even math disagrees with this, it is as wrong as 1+1=2-1=0! Marioguy1 (talk)
Well, Mario is about the character with all of his forms. If we delete Small Mario, we have no article about this special form. I agree that it's basically just the regular Mario, but hey, we're the Mario Wiki. Which means we can get more in depth about his forms, and also have articles about things like that. Time Questions 07:19, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
Theoretically, this article could be merged with the Mario section, cause it is none-other than regular Mario. On the other hand, this is a form that appeared throughout many games, so you cannot just merge it with... say... the SMB section, because it also appeared in SMB2,SMB3, NSMB, etc. etc. I am however fine with either way, as long as it fits the article. - GabuGabu.png Gabumon(talk) 08:07, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
Then why not merging both pages ? Koopalmier 15:12, 26 October 2009 (EDT)
Wait, what two pages? Mario and Small Mario? "Big Mario" doesn't make sense. BlickBlock
If we delete Small Mario, we would have to Tiny Wario under the same reasons, 'cause Tiny Wario is just a powerless Wario, see my point?Clarkmaster 03:13, 11 January 2010 (EST)
We wouldn't have to delete Tiny Wario at all. While Tiny Wario is a form, Small Mario isn't. Small Mario is simply Mario without any forms (Super Mario being Mushroom Mario). Mario simply isn't portrayed as being small so much anymore because he's already fairly short, so they wouldn't be able to market him as well if they made his standard form any noticeably different from his other forms. As it seems, all of the latest non-sidescrolling installations of the game seem to have merged the standard form and Super form into one, per my above marketing reasoning. Redstar 03:40, 11 January 2010 (EST)
Woah there hoss, Have ya played New SMB (DS & Wii)? Looks to me that Mario and company are allways shown in there Super forms, when attacked they lose one form for another, just like any other form (i.e. Mini Mario+Fire Flower= Fire Mario) Tiny Wario is just the same, now I aint play none of the Wario games so I could be mistaken, but the form does appear to be similar in terms of vulnurability, size, and annoyance.Clarkmaster 03:49, 11 January 2010 (EST)
Unlike Small Mario, Tiny Wario is not regular Wario. He is a completely different character. Small Mario, on the other hand, is exactly the same as Mario. Anyways, I think Small Mario and Mario should be merged. Fawfulfury65
Wtf? I thought I commented here... Anyway, yeah. Fawful got it down. Redstar 19:08, 14 January 2010 (EST)
We should have this article removed altogether since it is no different from Mario. Same base picture used for large Mario. If this was tiny Mario it might be a completely different case. GigaMetalLuigi

it should be kept, but named as regular or normal Mario.
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In New Super Mario Bros Wii and New Super Mario Bros, Mario + Powerup(other than Super Mushroom) = Powerup Mario. Powerup Mario - Powerup = Super Mario. 1+1=3 3-1=2. The First one doesn't make sense!!! -KS3 (talk · contribute)

What doesn't make sense? Marioguy1 (talk)

The First equation. Small Mario + Ice Flower = Ice Mario. 1+1=3. It's not my our fault that Nintendo is bad at math. KS3 (talk)
You can't use mathematics to solve this, Einstein. If Small/regular Mario gets a Mushroom, he becomes Super Mario. If he gets any other power-up (say, Ice Flower), he becomes Ice Mario. If Super Mario gets an Ice Flower, he also becomes Super Mario. Hello, I'm Time Turner.
but the special powerup(like, say ice flower) is the equivalent of 2. Small mario+Ice flower=ice mario. 1+2=3.

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Than what was Marioguy1 talking about up there??? KS3 (talk)
I meant the one way up there at the top of this page. KS3 (talk · contribute)

Shouldn't this be renamed Small Mario (form) because it is a form. KS3 (talk)

No. Those affixes are only added when there's more than one article with the same title. Time Questions 06:11, 28 February 2010 (EST)

I thought that this is a conjecture. KS3 (talk · contribute)

The reason why this is here is because this, like Metal Mario (form), is a form. Mario is the character, and Small Mario is the form. KS3 (talk · contribute)

Should I say something? Mario is sometimes nicknamed Super Mario. That's right, nicknamed after his Power-Up form. And every Mario artwork shows Mario in his Super form (this may be Mario's official size). This means Small Mario is obviously half the size as normal Mario / Super Mario. By the way, maybe we should move Small Mario to Little Mario instead. That's because I've read on a picture on THIS WIKI HERE, what seems to be a flyer of the Donkey Kong Arcade, that always Little Mario has been written, instead of just Mario, or even Jumpman, Mario's first name. And Mario was in that game the same size as Small Mario. 60px-ArendLogoTransparent.pngrend (talk) (edits)

So this is an conjecture. Can someone please put the conjecture template up as Arend says that it is a conjecture. KS3 (talk · contribute) 19:25, 23 April 2010 (EDT)
No, it's not a conjecture. Small Mario is called that at least in the Super Mario Land manual, and I'm pretty sure other sources as well. Time Questions 06:40, 24 April 2010 (EDT)
Even in the Super Mario World manual Small Mario is called Small Mario. --Mikiuz 09:07, 24 May 2010 (EDT)
No, no no, you got it all wrong. ALL the powerups except for Super Mushrom and Mini mushroom equals 2. So it would be 1+2=3. Also 3 is apparently the maximum so 2+2=4 but since 3 is the maximum it its

3. ... I don,t know, I'm grasping at straws here. But I think the "normal mario" IS Super Mario.because in the 3d mario series its always that height, and in the new super mario bros., they start out as super,but get hit by bowser jr., then turns small. So - think Super Mario is 1 while small mario is 0 and dies at negatives.

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and what is Mini Mushroom worth? 1, -1, what? Because in New Super Mario Bros., if an enemy hits you, you die. KS3 (talk · contribute) 20:38, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
I've always thought -o.5, not exactly dead, but smaller and weaker... smaller being able to fit in small places.

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Image of NSMB Small Mario[edit]

It seems that the image of Small Mario in New Super Mario Bros. is a little too compact. Is it just me or is that how it's automatically done? Gage42 (talk)

New Artwork

It can be seen here http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/arej/index.html#/about yoshiyoshiyoshi