Talk:Shiny

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What to do about Paper Jam Shiny articles[edit]

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For the Shiny variation of enemies in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, we have them as separate articles from the actual enemies, such as Shiny Paper Dry Bones or Shiny Paper Swoop. TheFlameChomp (talk) and I ultimately found out that the "Shiny" part of their names don't actually exist, the enemies are actually titled "Paper Dry Bones" or "Paper Swoop" and the shiny counterparts are more like how Pokemon is handled; the same enemy, just slightly stronger. We've decided that merging the Shiny variant with the Paper variant would be best, but some don't have pages on their Paper variant either, instead being written into the main article. The main problem here is the nonexistent "Shiny" title, but "Paper" is within the enemy names as well, which gives me three options.

Option 1: Create articles for the "Paper" variant of enemies (that don't already have one) and merge the "Shiny" variants into it

Continuing with the examples above, the information on Paper Dry Bones would be split from the main Dry Bones article (with a {{main}} in the corresponding section) and the information in Shiny Paper Dry Bones would be merged with Paper Dry Bones.

Option 2: Merge the "Shiny" information to the main article with the "Paper" enemies

"Paper" is part of the enemy names whereas "Shiny" isn't. Most, if not all, of the "Paper" enemies are currently merged with their main counterpart. This option involves moving the "Shiny" information there as well. For example, Paper Dry Bones and Shiny Paper Dry Bones will both be merged to Dry Bones.

Option 3: Split the "Shiny" and "Paper" enemies into separate pages See comments below. Regular enemies, Paper enemies, and Shiny enemies would each have their own page, with the Shiny variant receiving a (Shiny) tagged at the end.

Option 4: Do nothing

Self explanatory.

To clarify, this will not effect the Shiny enemies found in Paper Mario: Sticker Star, as those enemies do have "Shiny" in their title and are considered a separate enemy.

Proposer: Alex95 (talk)
Proposed Deadline: September 28th, 2017 23:59 GMT Cancel Date: September 15th, 01:30 GMT

Option 1[edit]

  1. Alex95 (talk) - My preferred option.
  2. Yoshi the SSM (talk) I think that the paper variants should have their own pages.
  3. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per proposal, since I helped find some of the information.

Option 2[edit]

Option 3[edit]

  1. Yoshi the SSM (talk) Shinies are different from regular paper variants in terms of improved stats and appearance. And per Option 1 vote.
  2. Time Turner (talk) Different enemies deserve different articles.
  3. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Per all.

Option 4[edit]

Comments[edit]

If there is another option I didn't think of, let me know. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 17:50, 14 September 2017 (EDT)

How about an option for creating pages for the paper variants and keeping the shiny variants separate? After all, the same name does not make the same enemy. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 17:54, 14 September 2017 (EDT)
The problem is that "Shiny" isn't part of the enemy's name. It's more like an additional parameter. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 17:58, 14 September 2017 (EDT)
Could we have, say, "Paper Goomba (Shiny)"?Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:12, 14 September 2017 (EDT)
I'm fine with that. If they have different appearances and different stats, then it's really no different than the other examples I tend to throw out at times like this. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 18:12, 14 September 2017 (EDT)
That'd be a really odd identifier considering Shiny Paper Goomba is a different enemy. I wouldn't support it, but I can see this as an option. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 19:15, 14 September 2017 (EDT)

Also, why is this a talk page proposal? Aren't these bulk changes the kind of thing best suited for the main proposal page, especially when it (potentially) involves merging? One proposal was even called out for deciding to rename multiple pages in a talk page proposal. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 19:19, 14 September 2017 (EDT)

I thought having two weeks would be enough time for everyone to go over the different options. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 19:22, 14 September 2017 (EDT)
"Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the Wiki should still be held on this page [the main proposal page]." I'm pretty sure this qualifies. Besides, how much time is really necessary to understand "create articles and merge other articles", "merge articles", and "create articles"? Hello, I'm Time Turner. 19:25, 14 September 2017 (EDT)
Oh, I did not see that... Let me see if I can cancel this and copy/paste this proposal to the main page, or if I need to start a new one. Alex95sig1.pngAlex95sig2.png 19:32, 14 September 2017 (EDT)