Talk:Pickup truck

Those Mushroom vehicles in Double Dash!! and derived

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Looking closer at these, they do seem to be a stylized pickup. Should they be moved here from car? Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:16, June 12, 2025 (EDT)

According to the article, they are labelled directly in-game as "car". I imagine that's the reason they are covered in the car page. — Lady Sophie ^(T|C) 07:55, June 14, 2025 (EDT)

They have the body styling of a three-wheeler pickup so I think they should be mentioned. Still, they kind of remind me more of auto rickshaws rather than trucks. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 15:40, June 15, 2025 (EDT)

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Shouldn't we move this to truck on account of it being an in-game name? PrincessPeachFan (talk) 07:22, June 14, 2025 (EDT)

As far as I can tell, this current name is conjectural, so it should be changed, yeah. The name of this page and of cargo truck were decided via this proposal. In the comments, the proposer originally agreed that "truck (pickup)" was an acceptable name, so I don't think moving this page would require a proposal. Before moving the page I would like to at least know what Mario Kart World calls the pickup trucks, cargo trucks and driveable cargo trucks, if any distinction is made there. — Lady Sophie ^(T|C) 07:55, June 14, 2025 (EDT)

This is a case that I think trying to find a precise name Nintendo has given for this subject is to the detriment of searching for it. Most users that want to find particular information of pickup truck, a term used for any medium-light truck with a cabin and cargo bed, will search "pickup truck". It's clear they refer to these vehicles as "trucks" in shorthand (which casual speakers also do), but the best terminology for these is pickup truck or pickup since truck is such a wide term for vehicles that transport things, and it includes SUVs cargo trucks. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 15:36, June 15, 2025 (EDT)

Only problem is, we don't have a source for Pickup truck. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 09:04, June 27, 2025 (EDT)

The suggestion was to move to "Truck (pickup)", not just "Truck", so that solves the ambiguity problem while matching official terminology more closely. And I don't think liking a fan name more than the official name means it should take priority. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 21:42, July 20, 2025 (EDT)

Aren't redirects at least partially meant to resolve "people usually call it this" problems? Besides, by the logic of "people will look things up by their real world name", Fluff (object) would have to be moved to "Dandelion", as they're very obviously just cartoony dandelions and people would call them dandelions if they didn't read the 3D Land Prima guide. I'm in favor of having this article be "Truck (pickup)". Salmancer (talk) 12:59, November 15, 2025 (EST)

Plant life is a trickier matter (although "Fluff" has definitely a recurring design element to it outside of Super Mario Galaxy), but bending backward for a lack of an explicit name of this object that is unambiguously a pickup that you see alongside other generically named objects and renaming this to "Truck (pickup)" is counterproductive. Editors might not agree with me, but I absolutely do not want to have something as straightforward and accurate as "pickup truck" be renamed to something annoying like "truck (pickup)" (with warts like piped links and redirects); it's functionally the same name. Let's say hypothetically Bus never was explicitly mentioned while car is (it's not an unfeasible hypothetical; from a gameplay standpoint, it's almost always conflated with general traffic and mostly isn't that much distinguished from the rest of the traffic); does this mean we have to assign a conjecture and citation needed template to this? Even outside of this hypothetical, there isn't a citation for the opening statement for that article (and for the one citation we do have, it's for Mario Kart Tour, so does this entire page's name hinge on Mario Kart Tour? what if Mario Kart Tour never existed?), should we move it to "Tourist Bus" and then write it like Tourist Bus also known as bus.? If you were go go back in time, should we apply a conjecture template to the bus article from 2017[1]? Let's also say the same for Cargo truck, whose sources are only from later games like Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart Tour. I feel the citation needed and conjecture templates are supposed to convey missing information that can possibly be contradicted, but not to cases like this. Mario^-HOHO! (Talk / Stalk) 16:37, November 15, 2025 (EST)

The wiki always uses official names for subjects, I don't get why this subject being too similar to a real thing means we can just ignore its official name and call it whatever we feel like. The name "truck" to refer to these isn't even inaccurate - like you said, it's functionally the same name, just with the benefit of matching official terminology more closely. I have no idea where you're going with the "what if Mario Kart Tour never existed" argument (we don't have to worry about that because it does exist), but yes, if there was no official name for buses then the article would be marked as conjectural, like we already do with, for example, tire stack. The point of marking things as conjectural is to make it clear to readers that a name was never officially used, we shouldn't just not do that because the subject happens to pass some arbitrary threshold of similarity to a real thing. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 13:13, December 15, 2025 (EST)