Talk:Golden Dash Mushroom

Merge with Golden Mushroom and Dash Mushroom with Mushroom

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Current time: Friday, May 3, 2024, 20:31 GMT

Basically going the opposite direction of this proposal, the reason being the recent release of the gold Mushroom spirit in Ultimate. It's named the "Golden Dash Mushroom" in all regions, but the context in which you fight it is Mario Kart-themed – Mario Kart stage, Mario Kart gimmicks, Mario Kart music, Mario Kart items (the rule even says so), and the artwork used is even taken directly from Mario Kart 8. From this, I think it's clear that Nintendo intended the gold Mushroom in the later Mario Party games to be the same as the Mario Kart one (the Mario Kart 7 European names should have been an indication of this, too), and for the same reason I think Dash Mushroom should also be merged back with Mushroom, as that was also most likely similarly renamed.

Proposer: Mario jc (talk)
Deadline: January 11, 2019, 23:59 GMT

Merge both

1. Mario jc (talk) Per my proposal.
2. Waluigi Time (talk) Per my comments.

Keep split

1. Toadette the Achiever (talk) As the creator of the mentioned proposal, while I completely understand the point you're trying to make, the only evidence you presented doesn't hold up well enough in my opinion. Sure, "Golden Dash Mushroom" is its name in all English regions, and it was released as a spirit along with two other Super Mario Party-related entities, but unless we have an actual description that at least hints that the two mushrooms are indeed the same thing, saying that they might be the same just because of the way it was grouped in with Super Mario Party spirits seems like wild speculation at this point in time. I mean, for all we know, it could have been a mis- or re-translation, which has to some extent happened before, like with Parafoil. Plus, by this logic, you would be re-merging Setback Shell with Green Shell, Backwards Bill with Bullet Bill, Lightning Score Striker with Lightning, and so on, where I feel that these articles should be visited too. Even then, it would be too inconsistent, seeing as how my original proposal not only tried to keep things consistent with articles like Thwomp Orb or Podoboo Orb, but also because Mushrooms and Golden Mushrooms appeared in Mario Party 2 with different functions from the Dash and Golden Dash Mushrooms despite Mario Party 2 being part of the same series as Mario Party: Island Tour. All in all, the proposal is okay reasoning, but I think that my reasoning (as well as that from the mentioned proposal) is even better.
2. FanOfYoshi (talk) Per Toadette the Achiever. They are separate from the normal Mushroom.

Comments

I'd like to point out that currently, both Mushroom and Golden Mushroom list several different effects for the items. The Mushroom article covers the Mario Kart mushrooms, the healing mushrooms from the RPGs, and of course the classic Mario Party mushrooms which give you a bonus dice block. Golden Mushroom does the same thing, but also adds the collectible from NSMB2/Treasure Tracker.

Based on this, I'd say it would be reasonable to merge these mushrooms as well. Yes, they have different effects from their counterparts seen earlier in the series, but the original Mushroom hasn't been used since 7, and Golden Mushrooms haven't appeared since 4. Mario Party 9 was a major shakeup for the franchise, and given that these new mushrooms didn't appear until Island Tour, I think we can excuse the differences. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 13:10, 28 December 2018 (EST)

But how does that counter my points? By this logic, we would merge Mushroom Orb with Mushroom as well. ^(T|C) 13:52, 28 December 2018 (EST)