User talk:Son of Suns/Archive 4

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Reply: Smithy Factory

K. -- Sir Grodus


Hey you know its been a while that we havne't seen each other and I know you're busy with school and work and just dropped by to see that you're doing fine.F gLarrynana.gif


Hey Son of Suns when will the next shroom issue come out?F gLarrynana.gif

And hey Son of Suns do you visit the forum often?

P.S. Can I call you SoS?F gLarrynana.gif

Second Mario vs. Wario Comic

Heres a link to it: [1] -- Sir Grodus

Reply: Samus Doll

I'm not sure, I think it was in Nintendo Power, along with some Star Fox comic or after it. -- Sir Grodus


Why is the Biography need that template. It is pretty long, and it is just like the other biographies so I don't see any point in rewriting it. Brawlslce.gifA fan of Yoshi | Here


SoS, Please read Toad's talk page. I'm fairly sure he WAS in SMS. - Ultimatetoad

O.k... "sigh" (stupid logic......) anyway, sorry to bother you again but can you please review King K. Rool? It's a nominated FA..... (I was going to ask you before but then I saw the "obscure Donkey Kong Character" thing on your page and got distracted....) - Ultimatetoad

Wario FA

I gave Wario's bio a huge revamp. Please review it again! I hope you like it... it took me an hour! 3dhammer.gif 3D, phew! AND I HATE WARIO! 3dhammer.gif

Fa Articles

Hey SoS when are you going to post new FA articles on the main page instead of going back to old FA?F gLarrynana.gif


Block him. User:YoshiFan


Hi Sos,

what's up?

--Super paper luigi 17:28, 6 April 2007 (EDT)

just sitting here, doing nothing, zzzzzz

--Super paper luigi 17:34, 6 April 2007 (EDT)


He's vandalizing! Please block him! Max2

thank you. Max2 panick over.

Redirect page

How do you make redirect pages? Gofer

Thank you. Gofer


Thanks. Plumber

Fanon Wiki

Since some people were sad that UnMarioWiki wasn't a Fanon Wiki, I'm trying to get this: [2] and also this: [3] (but you probably don't know what the second one is) Plumber

Thanks. The second one is about an online claymation humor shorts thing. Plumber

Hey, SoS? wanna be in my Smash Comic or my Adventure Comic??? if you do, I need to use your sprites, and if you want to be in Smash, you need a partner. Max2 (talk) thanks in advance!

um... Wayoshi? Max2 (talk) and, that was my plan.

SoS Sighting

In my sprite comic. You are a major character. Its on my user page.SaudyTalk!

Its also here.SaudyTalk!

Is it linkable material. It is a sightingSaudyTalk!

Could you remove the 媻 Block link on Steve's talk archive (1-50)? It is showing up on Special:Lonelypages and I'm hoping if there are no links to it, it will go away. Plumber

Sure. You appear in Isssue/Volume 1 intro, 1.1, 1.5, and 2.4. You're me and Wayoshi's old mentor, and an ex-member of the Tenacious Three. You head out on a mission, only to be stopped by me, as I inform you that your attempts are futile. Then we head out as a duo for a brand new quest.SaudyTalk!

you also will appear in my comic with Porplemontage as a partner. also in my fanfic, but I can't say anything about that "It's classified"

--Great Gonzo 21:57, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

Steve has sprites?SaudyTalk!

I make him Bowser...

--Great Gonzo 21:59, 10 April 2007 (EDT) (Aipom and Plumber did)

I'll remember that.SaudyTalk!

媻 Block

Thanks for following what I said. For some reason, it didn't work. The best thing to do at this point is to find another use for it like redirecting it to another article.
I am Confused 17:57, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

Instead of redirecting the article, you should just put a notice on the page saying that this page was created as a glitch, rather than redirecting it. It still shows up all of the on the special pages. Better to stop any further confusion.
I am Confused 18:00, 12 April 2007 (EDT)


thanks. Max2 (talk)


Huh, didn't know that. Thanks for telling me. --KPH2293 16:43, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

Fantendo Fantendo] is out! Plumber


thanks. Full Metal MoogleKirbyWalk.gif


Hey wanna chat through PM?cuz I dont have AIM yet.F gLarrynana.gif

K.rool Fa

Could you review the King K. Rool article?I think the requirement have been meet. Gofer

Hey are you busy?F gLarrynana.gif

King K. Rool FA

Will king K. Rool be the next FA?F gLarrynana.gif


Sup?F gLarrynana.gif

For now I dont have AIM but one day I will have one=)F gLarrynana.gif

Re:Featured Article

Oops. Ok, I will remember that next time. Plumber

Smithy FA

Oops I forgot to explain why I oppose that Article.F gLarrynana.gif

My bad

Working on writing the Dark Dark Boo article now. ~ LordKenny

Check it out, I got most of it done. I'm gonna try to finish it up tomorrow. ~LordKenny


No problem! -- Booster


Ok, since your an Sysop, you can help with this.

The Paper Mario, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, and the Super Paper Mario templates need to be changed.

My problem with them? They display TOO much information, giving the users little to write about for the article. Lets look at the 1000-Year Door template first.


The image should be removed, or at least optional. We don't need the exact same picture two or more times on a page. Plus, if we don't have a picture, it just says "NO IMAGE", making the page look incomplete.

The location should be removed. "Various" doesn't help people find that Spiky Goomba, does it? Instead, the user should create a list of locations.

The log and tattle should be removed. They could be put as quotes, making the page more interesting.

The HP, attack, defense, and numerical order should be kept. These can be hard to fit in the article, so the template is the best way to go for that information.

Also, the users should be able to name the enemy in the template, instead of it automatically being named after the page its on (which is why the spiky goomba in that template is named Son of Suns).

Ok, now lets see the other two.

As you can see, another problem is that they take up space. Sometimes, there is more template than article!


Template:Catch Card

The templates should be the same size, and the same color. This way, they look nicer and fit in more neatly on the page.

A simple solution is to create a master template that users can edit to display the needed information.

In conclusion, all I'm trying to say is we need better templates. They're writing the articles for us. Whatever you choose to do, please do what you think is best for the wiki. ~LordKenny

The templates were made for a reason...stop complaining LordKenny. Great Gonzo

Once again, you do not understand at all what I'm trying to say. I'm all for the templates, but I just think that theres a better way to display some of the information. And just because I'm new here doesn't mean I can't have an opinion about something. Plus, your not even explaining your view of the subject. I'm "complaining" for a reason. That reason is to improve this wiki. Sorry if that bothers you.

Now, no more argument about it. Son of Suns and the other admins will decide what to do now. If you don't want them to change the tablets, I suggest you write an explanation why, too. ~LordKenny


What would it do? You have no inclusion criteria. I have to be bold and force you guys to meet me half-way. - A Link to the Past 14:23, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

And don't protect an article if you have a certain position. If one cannot add all trophies, the OoT cast of characters, LttP, MM, etc., then the user should not be focusing on including all SSB and Hoops characters. - A Link to the Past 14:25, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
No consensus is going to be formed because people on the Wiki wish to have an article for anything Mario related. - A Link to the Past 14:30, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
Much of that list is not composed of characters. Anyway, how would I create a criteria which combines Axem Rangers and the Dark Goombas? - A Link to the Past 14:34, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
What purpose does it serve to have thousands of sentence-long articles? Why is it necessary to keep them separate rather than included together in a specific list? - A Link to the Past 14:38, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
For one, Bellhop Goomba probably could be merged into a List of Goomba variations article. - A Link to the Past 14:42, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Hey can i make you some 8-bit sprites?

--Super paper luigi 14:58, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

sure, i'll just upload a new version of your sprites, if... that's ok,

--Super paper luigi 21:17, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

ok, i finished it! it's on your userpage.

--Super paper luigi 21:37, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Undermining my efforts

Please stop undermining my efforts to help out this wiki. There's a reason they're called "stubs," and if you don't like the lack of information, then add some yourself. The wiki made a rule against one-sentence articles, not stubs. I have been trying to connect all of the catch card templates, but I can't do that without you interfering. hisak 17:13 PM CDT 5/8/2007

Purpose of the wiki?

I must be confused about the purpose of the wiki. I was under the impression that the wiki was made so that people will share whatever knowledge they have and that it will be readily accessible to everyone. Apparently, though, the "new" purpose is to make people who know a little about something feel stupid and erase their efforts to help the wiki. Please explain to me why the purpose has changed.



You're more active now than before.F gLarrynana.gif

Blooper Nomination

Come see the blooper article and whether you support or oppose.F gLarrynana.gif


AgentSeeThroo was the first ever sysop in this wiki?F gLarrynana.gif

Yup. Plumber, Come to the Awards Meeting if you can


The chat room changed. See the forum for more info. Plumber


Do you know where I can get sprites from like the albatoss pic here File:Albatoss.PNG?F gLarrynana.gif

did u like the sprites?

--Super paper luigi 22:44, 13 May 2007 (EDT)


Why SOS please tell me why?F gLarrynana.gif

Good Bye Son of Suns, it was a honor serving in the wiki with you. And I hope your life goes Well. Good Bye Son of Suns. And May the Force be With You. NSMBW Mario and Yoshi Jumping Artwork.pngXzelionETC

Are you really going to retire? {'_')

--Super mario97 11:09, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks Fg. That means a lot. Remember you can always e-mail me or AIM me if you want to talk. And yes, I am really retiring. I feel this wiki is going down a path I don't care to be a part of. The huge number of new policies and merges is becoming personally overwhelming, and this wiki is becoming more of chore to me than I want. I joined because I need an escape, a hobby, a place to have fun. This wiki was unique and flexible, but now I feel it has become cold and rigid. The fun from the wiki seems to have been sapped. That's why I am retiring. I don't regret the past year of editing, I just don't care for or about this wiki anymore. -- Son of Suns

I know what you mean; anyways, so long and goodbye. :( -- Sir Grodus

Hey, man, sorry to see you go. You're one of the greatest editors here (making expansions like this and all). Anyways, so long. You'll be missed. --KPH2293 11:36, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

man, you were my favorite user!

--Super paper luigi 12:31, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

I will be absolutely sure to talk to you about factors & possibilities. Wa Yoshihead.png TC@Y 15:55, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

So sorry. Hope to see you down the road of life. Hope life treats you well. So long, friend... 3dhammer.gif 3D, *cries hysterically* 3dhammer.gif

Don't let the brutal change strick you out. I was too shocked at the new change, but when you look at it deeper, these change are not that bad. The old FA system was well, flawed. Every major character/species got nominated, even thought the aticle themself were not that great. Most voter did not based their vote's on the quality of the article, but rather on their like/dislike of the character.Look at the old Luigi nomination, where most comment where among the line of "Lugi deserve his chance to shine!". Most argument against some article were ignored. The argument were mostly among the line of "this article have a lot of pic and it long" and not "this article is well written and unbiased.". Gofer

So sad to hear this...see you around sometime. I agree with you that this wiki is becoming to rigid, I hope you read this. Plumber 19:44, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

You are.:'(

The MissingLinkBowser 2.PNG I'm sad that I didn't get to know you that much and your leaving already

Don't be too sad guys. You can always AIM me or e-mail me if you really want to get to know me. I know a lot of FA nominations were poor choices, but then people could list objections, regardless of how many their are. This could kill the nomination if it was based on someone's personal tastes. How will that change with a peer review? It will just be another form of nomination that people will submit articles to, regardless of how good they are without intent to fix them. Why start over again and again? In a few months, a new standard will probably be created, and all new featured articles will be discarded. What's the point? How are thing gonna change? Regardless, part of my reason for leaving is the influence one or two people can have over the whole wiki. Why can't the community decide? Why can't people express themselves before policies are just randomly passed? Whatever. It's not a big deal, but I will not be returning. Sorry guys, but this wiki is sending me bad vibes. Ciao! -- Son of Suns
This peer review standard will definitely stick. Wa Yoshihead.png TC@Y 19:12, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

So long, man. It was great knowing you. I know exactly what you mean about the rigidness of the wiki. I've been noticing it, too. Anyway, so long. Phoenix Rider

Man, if I had the power I'd destroy every single policy just so you'd come back. Your leave is not in vain. I understand why you'd want to leave. I feel as if I am partly to blame for introducing the maintainance thing. This is the same reason I stay away from Wikipedia. But hey, I'll still see you on AIM.

P.S. Did you get my Mii?
I am Confused 22:26, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

Yes I did. I think. Anyways, thanks for your support everyone. -- Son of Suns

Mr. Schultz...... its been an honor. I will miss you. Greatly. I have been contemplating leaving for a while now. I stayed because you seemed to be able to handle it. I don't see any good things happening in your abscence. So long, and thanks for the lessons, laughs, memories, and fish.SaudyTalk!

isn't there a nother wiki we could talk to you on? and i had you in a comic :( and here:

Son of Suns. the user who left a mark on the wiki, the biggest out of all, though we sit here, with our hearts shattered into pieces, we respectfully inhale, the fog of sorrow, as we cannot hold on to something too long, everything needs its freedom and a place to hide, hoping you will be back to visit, as we wave, good-bye, this is the sappiest thing i wrote, and probably the worst i wrote.

--Super paper luigi 17:08, 17 May 2007 (EDT)

Goodbye SoS. You kept this Wiki running for probably a year by now, and you help me through the good times and the bad. Peace be with you!--Aipom_Banana_2.gif Aipom 424.png--

...Wow. It's sad that, when I finally decide to join this Wiki, the person I had the most respect for and the person I could basically consider my Wiki-idol... retires. It makes me truly sad. D: I don't even know you, but I feel certainly sad for reasons unknown. I won't try to change your... decision, since I know how it is when you want to leave a site because it just isn't the same as before, but believe me I would try to, even if it didn't work. I've been on the Internet for a while now, and I think I can be kind of sympathetic in this case. Just remember we will all be here if you ever decide to return. >: By the way, just as a small stupid, completely unrelated note, I have always imagined you as Brighton. So each time I see Brighton, I'll remember you. <.< Uh... yeah. Good luck and stuffiness. ~ Bottle Wizzerd

Final Respects

Sorry I'm a little late (even my brother up there contacted you), but I've come to pay my respects as well. As you can see, you leaving was a pretty big impact. You were my greatest role model and still are even after you left. If you are reading this message, you have probably opened up an e-mail and sneaked a visit to check what the message was about. If you would consider returning, we have FAs back in a more efficient style and also the wiki now has something called a proposal which give the community a chance to speak. Well, bye.Knife (talk) 00:46, 31 July 2007 (EDT)

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